 All right, we are live and welcome to vlog Thursday 273 Wow, I got Chris from crosstalk solutions here who was also coincidentally on vlog Thursday number one. Oh Yeah, it's been a long time Yeah, you you were on it's been a while and this is Completely my fault the bottom of my other friends had messaged me and said I didn't hurt for you in a while I'm like, oh, I'm sure here. I I completely never think like if if Chris doesn't say something for a while It's not that I'm ignoring people. It's just I'm really I'm not the best person at being social Yeah, listen. Well, everyone's got their own little lives. They've got their own bubble. I'm exactly the same I I Need to reach out to friends more often than I do I actually just reconnected with some friends this year that I hadn't been connected with in a while And that was really good. We went down to Los Angeles and had a nice barbecue with a bunch of people I hadn't seen in ages and it's always fun. You know, it's great. Yeah I thought, you know, one of those podcasts I listened to from time to time usually get more guest-driven is like Jordan Harbinger show And I actually did part of his class. He does it's free class He's talks about how to connect with people. It turns out he's a hacker nerd And so he has some problems with that But he talks about how you put it into a procedure and how you set it in a schedule He goes, I know it sounds like you're you're forcing yourself to be social But it actually helps a little bit and I've started to slowly do that where okay If I haven't talked to this person 30 days, I should at least just say hello. Yeah, right. Yeah, so as well as you know part of being a nerd It's part of me, you know, I don't know I feel like Maybe not so much in like the network administration side of things But I know that it takes like very specific types of people to do specific jobs in it Yeah, and like like so someone who's a network engineer has Generally obviously there's exceptions to every rule But someone who's a network engineer generally is Going to be a little bit more social and outgoing than someone who's like a hard core developer say Yeah, you know, I've I in my opinion It seems like developers are more of the sort of introverts like head down focused on the computer only for you know, 15 hours at a time and At least with network stuff we kind of get our hands on the Equipment and you know sort of get to walk around a little bit and and plug things in and unplug things Yeah, we interact with people and things like that but then there's back end engineers that just Do the magic remotely Those guys sometimes I have a couple of my employees. They're really quiet. They just they're not someone's like Why aren't they ever on youtube channel? I'm like, there's reasons Some people don't want to be on youtube like I know you've had your wife on youtube Like my wife wants nothing to do with youtube whatsoever Yeah, like not even like she's not even a question Yeah, she likes she likes doing the she'll read read the questions and type back to people because I don't always type back to them Things like that, but we have a few people that joined and we'll say hi to kody from mack tailcom networks He's a fellow unify lover like me and chris. Yeah getting into those unify talk videos Delve into the unify talk space Yeah, that's interesting. I'm not that interested in it people ask me about it And I'm like, I don't know what's your what's your take on it chris? It's not well, okay. So to be fair I have only given it the briefest of sort of overview look. I've only looked at it very brief I've tried to set it up. I had some phones here. I had mixed success You know, some of the phones were too old to connect to the newest versions of software and stuff, but when see I've been in voice over ip and phone systems for Coming up on 20 years probably And the one thing that I've found is that you'll never find a real vanilla void configuration There's so many people want so many different things to tailor their phone system around the way that they do business That I don't feel that unified talk is robust enough to cover everyone's needs If as a void integrator I was going to try to sell it to customers You'd have to sell it to very specific customers that can fit within the unified talk mold And kind of that's it Yeah, and I think that's you know, you being the free pvx expert That's the cool thing about like free pvx is it has an immense amount of flexibility for all the different things You know in even like some of the projects we've coordinated on it I've kind of contracted out to you for free pvx Some of these are some unusual steps people have with different manufacturing things that ring bells and things like that All that little one-off stuff that No one always thinks about but is more prevalent than you realize in the voice of pvx Stage know he's in you do a lot of the hospitality and there's an entire Use case and sets of things that you go. Oh, that's right I am used to my phone just kind of doing a thing in the hotel room That doesn't have some magic behind it and some technology to make that actually functional Yeah, there's very specific um There's there's a lot of specific things that we run across per segment like Schools usually have very similar needs as far as those extra types of bells and whistles paging systems and whatnot versus Hospitals or auto dealerships. They all kind of have their own sort of nuances So we know what questions to ask but like if you're dealing with an auto dealership and they want to have A loud speaker that plays out over their entire yard Or they want to have you know, they've got a factory or a you know mechanics, uh, wherever they work on the cars What am I trying to say a bay the garage bay the garage? Yeah, the bay where like if this phone rings I also want a separate loud ringer In that same bay or in that same garage so that we know when the phone's ringing Like there's just little things like that that are much more difficult to do When you're boxed into proprietary phones and a smaller set of Features if you will Yeah, there's like the general law office type thing where there's maybe a person secretary answering the phone and passing it off But that's actually The big one the complicated ones that's so to speak The ones where you can't apply this and then if you're a reseller Okay, how many things do you want in your reseller stack because oh, hold on if you're super basic I can sell you this but everything else. I got to sell you this Well, I was able to sell you the more complicated one all the time So only get one product to support right and you just don't use all the features on that That's kind of what we do. I mean we have a very we try to make things as cookie cutter as possible um, but did you hear about the um The possible yay link phone back door No Oh, this is crazy. There's uh, there's an article Is there a chat that I can send this to you? Yeah, there's a click on the private chat on that and I'll pull it up. All right. Let's see. I'm going to send you this article What are you doing that? I'll say we got a Hello from sweden. Hello from germany Australia, I like to see all the different countries where people are saying I Welcome everybody. All right. So there's this article and the long and the short of it is that yay link phones are a chinese manufacturer Well, what am I getting a call? so I'm getting a call on discord in my ear. Hang on. Let me tell him my guy that i'm on a live stream No problem. So let's see See the rest of the low. Oh, thank you. Uh, william doddery who also says he is a developer but actually social So thank you for the super chat and And being someone who's uh learned to be socially said so I can't drink tequila though william. Sorry about that. Yeah, we'll buy whiskey with it. So there you go I can do whiskey or bourbon. Yeah So this is this was an interesting article. It's a good read. It came out a while ago, but this company the security company Basically found that yay link phones um phone home to China every time they're rebooted and if they're not rebooted once a day Even if you have them on a different redirect server I didn't round the little ad blocker. Yeah, and it's it's encrypted So we really don't know what they're sending back But the potential there is kind of interesting because yay link is very popular. I mean it it runs on like I mean a good percentage. I mean, I don't know the percentage off hand, but I would guess probably 15 20 of all phone systems in the us utilize yay link phones. Yeah, um, and It's it's interesting because That phone home, you know the worst case scenario Is that that phoning home could potentially be requesting or they could signal these phones to um install some sort of new firmware maybe that you know Bricks every phone every yay link phone in the united states Yeah, that's I in here's one of the challenges with any of these and this has come up quite a few times A lot of the the firmware like the uh, if you read the british, what's the british? intelligence agency gcc or something like that I forget the name when they did the debrief on the huawei stuff I actually really liked some of the stuff they put in the report. They said it's so bad Some of their coding practices were using stuff that was so old and outdated They were so coding in languages that had vulnerabilities frameworks that were old They said we can't tell if this is intentional or just a terribly run code house We don't know if they're just that bad and they're trying to put backdoors in or it what it really looks like is They're just inept and no one has moved on like there's a couple guys that know this whole framework from six years ago And no one ever updated anything. We're still building with java version two. Let's just keep going folks like right Yeah, I mean it's it's a similar it's a similar type of thing and it's got it's to the point where HQ people some people figured it out. There we go. It's a thing where like No one really knows what might be happening with these yeling phones But that's the problem right the problem is you don't know what's happening with them Right the opaqueness of a lot of these is a big problem. Yeah and uh, you know, they're they're you know part of the uh, they're board of directors or people that have been um, you know big in the prrc and It sort of gets to like this like You know without getting too like xenophobic is this actually a problem, you know, like Well, and there's a solution to the two any of these problems comes back down to like open source open code understanding what's in there give us the um, I think it's called like the s-bond the software bill of uh, man software build manifest I don't know if you've seen some of these proposals that companies have to start telling us all the crap that went into their System so we know the interdependencies of it because the perfect example is log 4j What was or what wasn't built with log 4j? We don't know We just see a product and we're using it But what dependencies did you have and once things become more open source? We can see it okay We can decide whether or not you're doing something that various with it because we're able to um dive into it So the push for that comes up every time there's a big incident But like all bureaucracy it goes back into the bureaucracy mess and here Here we are seeing backdoors and phones Yeah, and it's you know, it's concerning enough where we are still selling yalink phones, but we are also sort of caveatting these this basically this article Um to our customers that are asking about them and saying and saying look we They're good phones like that. That's the problem is they're really good phones and they work well But so when people ask about them, especially schools and stuff we got to say listen We do resell yalink and we like yalink phones. They work well. They're awesome. They're built well But there's this asterisk out there that we're not really sure about so just here check out this article Just want to make sure you have all of the information, you know And we make sure we're very clear about that when we're selling phones to customers. Yeah, um Greece has a question here and Is there any problems locking the phones down on a separate v-lam where they don't have internet access? Or doesn't that cause some other issues with some of these phones? Do they kind of require more than just ntp? They usually want to reach out don't they? yeah, so You so a voice over ip Network can be segregated with no internet access The server needs internet access right right? So the server would typically be what is downloading all of the You know new firmware files and then the phones just connect to the server so you could theoretically set it up to do that That would mean though that you are locking yourself into Not using any sort of cloud redirect server, which is very popular these days. However The older technologies still work most phones You know before the cloud provision the cloud provisioning servers were super popular Everything was tftp. Yeah, and everything still works with tftp. So yeah, you can absolutely do it As long as you have an on-prem server, which not everybody has an on-prem server Not everybody has an on-prem server. That's right So if you have an on-prem server, you can segregate everything only allow the server to talk to the internet Uh, and then even you know block ip addresses outbound if you want to or block regions outbound if you want to and that would work but uh Yeah, we don't we don't do that often. It's not it's very rare. Most of our stuff these days are cloud Uh cloud services and that's where some of these challenges come in is If you even have full control of the network, you may be just selling them part of a solution You can make an advisement to who does manage your firewall, but if that's not you Well, i'm not going to not sell it to you, right? Yeah, there's always so much more nuance than people once you get into it the uh The when you start looking at from the outside But once you've been doing this for a while like me and chris have and boy We've both been in the consulting game for a long time. So We've we've seen a lot and we know we don't always get to pick all of the details the way we want Yeah, yeah, we we at one point, you know, you learn as you go and we had Had to add into our contracts for phone systems At one point that you know What is included in the service and what is not included in the service and one thing that is not included in the service is any Network configuration at all, right? So like basically saying like look, we're selling you a phone system But if we put this phone system in And your network is blocking something or you've got double net or you've got one-way audio or you've got a firewall That's not really compatible. We try to sort of stem off all that stuff off at the front, but If we put it in and the network's not working We don't want to be on the hook for making your network work as part of this project That's the phone system not related to the network, right? So we'll say look, we will consult with you on the network stuff if you want But that's going to have to be separate and that's just something that we had to build in To a contract like we just had to put that in because otherwise it'll bite us in the butt The the longer you've been in business is proportional to how big your scope of work is and in your dudes and don'ts in your contract Yeah, yeah, it's true. It's true Yeah, so someone says and you you already said it here is double net still a big issue for void phones If you have on an on-premise server I mean, not if you have an on-prem server But you have to make sure that whatever firewall you're using can handle and that you've also configured proper net There's ways to do this it is there's protocols that handle it now But there's still exceptions to the way they're set up and it comes down to who your sip trunking provider is upstream Whether or not they handle it properly because that's That's sometimes where the problem is too. There's not just configuring a free pbx box or whichever on-prem voice server It's the negotiation between the sip trunking Yeah, we don't like you know, we We avoid double net. Uh, we also avoid customers that Their primary internet connection is a wireless isp. Oh, yeah Because there's just no You know voice over ip is a real-time protocol, you know, if it's if you're surfing a web page or you're downloading a youtube video There's buffers, you know, there's it can retry tcp is error correcting so to speak So You can't put a word back into a sentence that you've spoken. Yeah, it's just it's gone. Yeah It's gone trap there, right? Yeah So nothing we can do about those Um Have you been following or do you use at lasty and at all? No, I don't they just released the debrief I don't know if you've seen so I I uh because we talk about documentation from time to time my channel and we run into a lot of documentation servers including a client that One of our clients literally rebuilds a bunch of lasty and work Anyways at last day I went down a couple days into april and they're still down today for a big part of their system Yeah, they finally did the debrief. They ran a maintenance script and apparently they this is their own admission They didn't coordinate with a couple different teams and instead of a maintenance pruning script It turned into a maintenance purging script and it purged several thousand customers And their restorer is going to take them up to three to four weeks because they can only restore 60 at a time that's the limit for their so they have backups it's it's this weird problem that people don't realize of Could you get the backups There yet I can back up a single site and I can restore a single site. I can restore a dozen sites I can restore 60 sites is apparently their answer, but we deleted like 10,000 sites or whatever that the number was pretty staggering They didn't I don't know exactly what was pretty big and this is um one of those cloud problems A lot of people is I just was reading this and tweeting about it just before I got online here I figured I'd bring this up because I think I talked about it last week of how long it takes to Get some of these done it's always interesting to think about the backups because we do You know disaster recovery planning and while we did a dr test with a client Which it turned out because of their slow internet the Simulation of the restore we gave them the how long they'd be down for was three days just to download the file again We're like that's just the speed of your internet connection right now because of the data accumulation you have They're like, oh, so we'd be down for three days. Yep simulation We after we let it run for so many hours. We calculated it and confirmed The transmission stream back is working. You will be restored at this demo server in three days at your connection Wow, that's a lot of downtime because they have like 90 employees. They're like, what are they doing in the meantime? I don't know give them a few days off. Yeah, have fun Yeah, it's one of the things that we think about when you're doing these disaster recovery plantings and putting that it was just I figured the audience might like to hear about this because everyone tries to crap on the cloud and i'm like, yeah It figuring out how to back up the cloud. I think is the challenge is uh, it can be tough. Yeah I've got like even even for home users, you know, I the way that I back up is I have all of my My documents and videos and music and everything On my nas and then my nas is just connected as a drive on my system I've got my you know documents music at their folders maps to the nas drive The nas drive backs up to both an external hard drive just a usb connected hard drive here on premises and then also to Oh, what's the backup for the back blades back place So also it's also to back blaze and then separately. I have the Synology nas doing google docs backups On site as well. So it's like you just have to like that's how you got to do it You got to really dial that in and it's a pain in the butt to set up But typically once it's set up, it's pretty set it and forget it So the um, I'm impressed with how well Synology handles the google backs back backup It's easier because we actually do we set up for clients with the officer 65 ones Those are actually relatively easy the google ones The api makes it a little bit because you have to do like individual api authorizations And get some keys I it's been a little while since we set it up I remember there being a couple we've done a couple of them and they're always google's a little bit trickier But google has granular permissions like you have to grant access to each section But I'm impressed with how well it works because I I did finally have I mean I've tested a little bit like You know, but I'm testing it. It's not a surprise like when Accidentally when your employee says I may have deleted some really important things out of the calendar, right? It was like That's interesting. He goes tell me there's a copy in your calendar tom I said no no you deleted an amount of our shared calendar and so we get to test it The other day and it worked flawlessly actually I was able to push the calendar settings If you I don't know if you look how you push things back you can push them back right through the Synology interface and they showed right back up for everybody the shared calendar. It's really slick Yeah, it's a really nice system. It's a great platform. I mean, so now like nas systems Synology type nas systems are almost like Mandatory now for even for home users like they're just so much you can do with it Check out this one that I just linked you to though. I just saw this I think it just came out from qnap who qnap I don't use I use Synology personally, but I've played with qnap and I think it's a viable solution. I like qnap stuff But look at this one they just came out with this is made for multimedia playback It's got it's got two drives that you put in there It's silent and it's got I think dual 2.5 gig Uh ports on it. It's got dual 2.5 gig ethernet and dual 4k hdmi 2 output Oh, that's kind of neat. Yeah, right. Isn't that cool? So my love hate with qnap has been I I agree with a lot of people's comments when they say they make good hardware And this is a really nice piece of hardware But their patching is always so lagged behind when they carry on security updates I don't know if they've even released like the linux dirty pipe now granted. They build it on linux. So it's not their fault It's not a direct qnap problem But to take three weeks two weeks later and they're still saying hey, uh, we're completely aware of the problems Sorry, we haven't got firmware out yet. Like they they need to prioritize that a little better Obviously they kind of work around for this from a security standpoint is don't put these things online publicly accessible But then again, even senile if I had to guess chris your senile isn't publicly accessible online, right? No, of course not That's the bigger problem is all these things that are publicly accessible is don't make them. But yeah, it's kind of clever That's got the uh multimedia right on there. So you're like hook it right up to your tv. Okay Yeah, and it's like I think it's that's basically what it's made for I thought it was a kind of an interesting product qnap does have good hardware like the hardware They come out with is usually pretty innovative and that's kind of what I like about them That um, I didn't watch it yet But a lot of people have asked me about it I'm glad wendell from level one did a video, but you can run other nas software on there They run linux matter of fact He specifically was putting true nas on them So some people talk about like some of the nicer qnap ones You can get more functionality out of them or functionality. Maybe you like better out of true nas So they will run third-party software So you can take advantage of that hardware which to harvors good price and there's an alternative where you have a supported operating system Maybe something, you know, maybe you like better and still take advantage of the hardware. It's all x86. It's not that proprietary So there's just some trickiness to getting it to overwrite the qnap, but once you've done it away you go. Yeah It's like uh open wrt for uh, oh, yeah for nas systems Yeah, they open I haven't played with that in a while a few people have asked me about that So I haven't either it's been a it's been a long time. I I still have like I've got um I tend to not throw anything out. So I've got like a bin upstairs like I use like those storage bins and I've got one storage bin That's literally full to the brim of just old routers like Netgear link sys, you know sysco a little like I've got like an old like sysco picks firewall You know one of those small ones from like way back in the day like 10 100 interface, you know like Like and I just for some reason I just can never throw any of that stuff out I always I always keep it because you know someday I might need it The wrt 54 g man. That thing was a classic. I had that so long. I love that one Yeah, that was the that was sort of the First one I've ever had in home networking for years and years and years is probably why sysco bought them You know what I mean like it was such a popular device You know, I was watching uh, you know last week you and I did that Uh that live stream on the ubiquity sues crev's thing Yeah, I don't know if you saw that um the the wan show just covered it uh earlier this week as well uh, so you know line is uh tech tips and um, they They brought up the point that like Ubiquity was such a disruptor in in a really good way in the sort of prosumer networking space And like they're kind of like blowing all that good will with all of this stuff And I thought that was a really good point that they made is that they It's it's hard to imagine Going back to the pre ubiquity Home network days. Yes You know because they've really spurred All of this, you know, like maraki kind of was I guess probably the first one that was sort of sdn But then like they've now come out with the everything, you know, the service side of it is free And everyone else is having to follow suit because of that, you know aruba and tp link and um What's the other oh, uh ruckus unleashed, right? Like all of these are now like you don't have to pay the recurring license fees anymore And I think a lot of that is directly because of the popularity of ubiquity hardware Yeah, it's it because it's almost like a um How'd you how'd you want to call it a collusion between them is like, hey everyone You know, they all know each other. Come on and everyone at least charge the license fee because I'm charging one You're charging one. This is how we're all going to make money, right? And then open mesh came out and they were one of the first big competitors But right away with open mesh. I didn't like it There wasn't a self-hosted controller and I'm like the cloud is never free forever. Sorry That isn't how it works and then dad old bought open mesh and Then he violated that cloud free forever deal going. Oh, yeah, by the way You can sign up for the data open mesh cloud. It does have a subscription fee to it And I you know, and I tried out we actually were deploying we deployed only a couple of them for testing Um, and we deployed some ubiquity, but right away Like the ubiquity clicked with me better and that would have been around I don't know 2013 maybe a long time ago Yeah, but that self-hosted controller. That was the thing. I'm like this is great. I can control this this is like so much better than what I'm seeing out there and um, rocky which is now rocky sisco rocky was an independent company Like you said, well the first in the game doing this before they got bought up by Cisco doing it. I guess they're still and I didn't know this and you deal more with them. I don't know as much anymore. Um Cambium don't they have a self-hosted controller as well or an option for one They do But it's um, it's not clear from looking at their site exactly how it works Cambium has a marketing problem Uh, it's the way that I would put it. They don't market their gear. Well, I mean it was always like their stuff works really well Um, it's definitely a steeper learning curve to set up. It's not made for prosumer. It's made for Network engineers. Yeah. Yeah wisps and network engineers, right? Um, so it's not quite as user friendly It does a lot of the same stuff, but their products just aren't I mean again You know, they say like something has that it factor or a certain, you know, je ne sais quoi, right? Cambium doesn't have that And ubiquity does ubiquity products are sexy. Yeah, and cambium products are not right a lot of these products are not like but at least Uh, you know like with other products that I wouldn't consider as sexy as ubiquity products like tp Linko Moda products is a good example You know, they got those big ol access points and you know, a lot of people complain about the size and they just don't look very sleek But their pricing is a lot better And the functionality is there, right? So You know, it just comes down to like usability And and the actual aesthetics of the device Cambium just sort of falls flat on both of those items and price. They're not that cheap No, and so that's where they kind of like they don't keep up They don't keep up with everything and remember when I was talking to them, like I don't I remember you could get the cn My show that seemed to have integration with their wi-fi But I was really not clear on how it integrated with their switches And or if it did at all and that and their switches were also They were as expensive if not more than the syscos. So I'm like you know, they were yeah, this is not a competitive Price you're charging sysco prices, but you're just not it's clear at least syscos clear on what it does Cambium had you know, I did a number of Cambium videos and they they hit me up at one point to They wanted me to promote their They came out with a line of switches specifically for video surveillance And I I asked them I said well, okay, so what makes these video surveillance switches And they really didn't have a great answer Or they did have a couple of things like there was a way That you could view the rtsp feed of a camera From inside the gui of the switch Like something like that, right? But like but like other than that there really wasn't much and I ultimately turned them down I said guys this is not that interesting like it's just a switch It's just a very expensive switch that you're calling a surveillance switch Without a lot to really kind of back it up Yeah, it was weird. I remember that same I had similar conversations with them a few times I'm like I just can't understand completely what you guys are getting at here. Like I'm just Like they just keep missing it like I I see that they're trying and I don't think they have a terrible product I just the marketing problem with it and ruckus is kind of the same way ruckus's website's not helpful last time I was there like it's to understand their product offering and the same thing with aruba aruba. Whoa Um, I had a college reach out to me and I thought this was interesting. Did you know ruba has a self-hosted controller system? You mean it's done Oh, it's kind of like that. It's on the same aruba lineup. You have to So this was so weird the um, I had a they reached out to me a dm for twitter turning a good conversation He said I I seen your video about this is like a year ago when I was talking about unify alternatives And he go actually aruba has it but you won't find that out easily without the right sales rep I'm like, oh, you got my interest peaked. So we end up having to chat and he said Um, the school's requirement was to have an on-prem controller, which pretty much he thought they were going to put in unify and he goes Came up with us at one of the local it places is an aruba shop and I go no no go aruba And they're like, but self-hosted control We don't want to have our infrastructure at this college campus tied to the cloud And he said no we have a self-hosted controller for it. He's like, no, you don't we can't find it on a website And he goes it's not on the website He kind of explained how it worked is really confusing. It's an enterprise thing It has a big upfront cost, but it doesn't seem to have the recurring license But you can't find it and he said that's actually the confusing part It's the same problem with the if you go through the aruba ap's Some of the instant on don't have on the access points web interfaces and some do But that's not like an easy to find matrix on their site to tell you which ones do and don't have web interfaces And uh, can only or can only be all managed to cloud and as you pointed out in your last aruba videos In the same thing when I tested them The abilities of the switch when it's tied to the cloud are far less than when you log into the switch You can configure all the extra features. So why do you guys have the cloud? It's it's worse than that though. It's worse than that because it's not like you can have it connected to instant on And then log into the switch and have all of those extra features No, no, no, you have to choose Which one you want when you factory reset the switch You either get all the local gooey features But no instant on or you get the cloud connectivity and you don't get all the good features I think I would actually personally be fine with it If most of the common features were controllable through instant on and then anything extra that wasn't an instant on You could still log into the switch and configure. That would that's not that's not how it is. That's not how it works that is Just a ridiculous config like to me that is Huggling how in It always goes back to how these companies miss the market. It's not like there's no example of a company Is goofy as ubiquity can be at certain times the other side of it is how do they get it? So right and these companies like hey, there's a blueprint of a company with a 12 billion dollar market cap That's dominating the market like just at least do what they do because that's certainly what tp link did They're like just looking at the homework on ubiquity Maybe linked at least they copied most of the functionality of ubiquity. Yeah So, I don't know it's uh, I think that was like that old story of like You know, I think it was mcdonald's and burger king where like in the us, you know, two very popular fast food franchises And uh, well, I guess they're probably everywhere burger king probably everywhere, right? Yeah anyways, they like the the marketing of McDonald's Location marketing or location scouting team would go around and run all sorts of metrics and spend ungodly amounts of money researching Where's the best place to put new franchise locations? And burger king's idea was well, we're just going to put a burger king near wherever a new mcdonald's goes in. Yeah So like You know, that's that's that's the one way to do it. You know, yeah, just dumb as you do They do just build one across the street. It's easy. Yeah, exactly Someone has a question. What is the preferred hypervisor? Someone like csxi also proxmox. I'm partial to xcp and g We actually do a lot of consulting on that so But uh, you have any preferences on hypervisor? You do much virtualization. No, we don't do a lot of virtualization Like said, we are mostly just straight up networking and phone systems We do run across occasionally folks that want to put their phone system into a virtual machine, which we typically recommend against Not because it can't work But because oftentimes the needs of a phone system in terms of especially networking and like sort of those double nat issues That we're talking about The networking has to be solid and and oftentimes folks setting up the virtual machines Don't have the most in-depth That knowledge of how to set it up properly And so we kind of try to shy away from it again Not because it won't work but because a lot of times people are like, oh, yeah I'll just put it in a virtual machine But they don't really know what they're doing and then they have a very bad experience with free pvx And then of course they blame the pvx. They don't blame the the virtual machine setup Yeah, it's a it's a chance the reason that I start with Don't virtualize your pf sense installs or some of your firewalls and it's not that you can't get it working It's that you've added an entire new layer of things and I you know, I did make a video on if you're gonna do it At least here's the procedures. I've actually helped With the xcp and g their documentation I've gone through it and helped document I think they have my video still embedded there to go over all the little details that you have to set There's even certain parameters You have to push from the command line inside the hypervisor to set the networking to work exactly a certain way so you get better performance out of it and then and only then Will it maybe work if you don't have a broadcon chip? And that's where the next performance problem is because broadcon makes awful chips So if your hypervisor Has 10 gig in it and you can't get 10 gig you're sometimes even getting way less than 10 gig you may have a broadcon chip so there's there's all these factors and It's one of those things if you're not familiar with it or you're just trying to be budget friendly And I'm going to put everything in the hypervisor because that's a efficient way And make sure you built that on a solid platform So you're not troubleshooting a bunch of other things to go with it um I see someone here's the any tips on wi-fi in an old thick walled house multiple wi-fi 6 or wi-fi 5 4 um More the merrier is my opinion when it comes to some of the wi-fi If you it's just hard to get through walls line of sight is going to be your best those little in walls I I even have those um at my house because of there's the my wife's office is like pushed forward into the house Uh in the most of the time we're in the other part of the house So the wi-fi 6 is over there the in wall hd is in her office So her office things can all be connected my wife moves your laptop around too much And she won't use hard wine because she says no I don't want more wire on my desk because whatever Well, I mean you think about it like if you have a you know concrete or brick walled house that um is blocking The majority of your wi-fi signals I mean how what's the problem the problem is you have areas where you're not getting wi-fi coverage So you can't knock down the walls So the only answer is put more access points in yep And you know like a lot of hotels will use those in wall access points They have you know like uh ubiquity has them like ruckus has them You know and they're they're specifically made for that type of environment where they're much lower power output Because they're only meant to be in a single room Uh, but you're supposed to have a lot more of them And then really if you have that same sort of thick wall problem Interference isn't a huge issue because there's not a lot of signal leaking through to the other rooms Anyways, like that's the whole problem in the first place. I would still recommend You know go through and separate out your channels such that you're not overlapping as much as possible But it's not really that big a deal just pop in another access point Yeah, the walls literally block it. We um, we did a bunch of in-walls for a project They were old cinder block walls. No good news is we didn't have to get into the walls. They had already had them They actually had the conduit on the outside of the wall that went into job boxes So it was easy to install these but completely solves the wi-fi problem. Um, it was a series of dorm rooms Campus and popping all those in Everyone had great connectivity. You had a port restriction So they had a couple ports that were part of a guest network with isolation So no big deal. They could plug in if they wanted to it's an easy solution for that Now the hard part is getting wires in there and there's a reason I don't do residential wiring man That is getting inside of walls like that. It can be done. Yeah, but We've done a few residential. We but we're very frank We have we just said um one of our clients and he just bought a new two million dollar house And so he was willing to pay what it cost to get wires snaked inside of the wall But he was understanding that we come in and have to cut out part of the wall We're not the wall putter backers. We can take a wall out. We can we can cut a hole Yeah, he had a guy he had a guy because he's bought those that are doing construction on it So we just said perfect timing wheel drill holes and someone else can patch the drywall for you and you're like great You mentioned, um The dorm room I had a funny story about that like uh when I was probably about five or six years ago I got contacted from some folks in my local area that were actually in core valus Which is where the organ state university is and they were uh a dorm environment And they're like they call me like listen, we haven't had internet for like a week Like we just someone's got to come in and fix this thing. I said, okay, okay so I pack up my stuff I drive down there and I get in and then Start looking at it and it strikes me that like All this wiring is completely messed up like coming out of the Router was going into like like they just every all of the wiring was just wrong Everything was plugged into the wrong place and I said What happened here? he's like, oh He kind of got all shy and he's like listen one of our um, you know one guy that's in this dorm Uh, we were having some internet problems and he got all drunk and thought he could fix it And literally just started replugging wires in various places So the point where They couldn't figure it out. They had been down for almost a week And they were finally they're like, we got to get someone in here to fix this We just don't know what to do here. And so it was pretty funny that I was like, uh, okay So I literally just unplugged everything and just rewired it. You know what I mean? You just got to start from scratch and just go again. Well, those jobs are always fun Yeah, the wiring cleanups and I occasionally on twitter I post I mean you've you've had some of your um Competitions you do. I think it's an annual one now at this point of worse wiring rooms and worse wiring jobs Yeah, I didn't do it last year. I think I'm gonna I think I'm gonna do it again this year, but I'm I'm still on the fence about it Yeah, no, I I like those, you know, they're always It's always fun and there's always what I think it's like reddit our cable gore in places like that There's so many disasters the um The crazy part is Just I've been in some really big companies and we we did a cleanup for a company that was huge in a couple section I'm we're talking like They've they're around you may have heard of them type company They have locations everywhere and we've done a couple of they're based here in Michigan We did a couple of locations and it's funny because they like us because of youtube But they were very adamant at the beginning This isn't going on youtube right and I'm like, no, no, don't worry. We asked permission first I go we'd prefer our name not beyond any of this because we don't want any of our customers We really like you like their it team was super cool. They said we love your videos tom But we really don't want to be in them Like we we cringe every time we see you post something on twitter because we're like that's how our room looks and They couldn't get approval for a long time. The owner just they had a they have a pretty tight it Team doing a lot of good stuff and good on security at all the right things But the wiring room was like it's been getting worse and worse and it just kept it kind of got out of control And no one no one would take ownership of it because no one wanted to touch it It's it's that uh house of cars like we're not sure where any of these wires go Things are working. So no one wants to unplug it. Yeah That's funny. We had a we had a client last year that had like one of the most interesting Point to multi point use cases that we've ever worked on On top of that it was in a tropical location That I would have been very happy to go visit And they made a sign in nda same thing like you can't put any of this on youtube We can't have our name anywhere or anything like that like I was dying To go out there and do a video on this really amazing setup that we did And I just I just can't talk about it. I'm just like Man come on You know I do have another one coming up soon though A buddy of mine bought a cabin up in a lake in Idaho And I'm going out there in a couple weeks to do the initial sort of setup It's like multi property or multi dwellings on a single property So getting that all dialed in and set up and right now they have a 16 megabit wisp connection Which is really I think it's like 16 by No, no, I take it back 16 is the max they can get what they have is four megabits by one or two up Really terrible. I told him to sign up for star link and at least get on the list so that he can you know Start heading that direction and he he uh texted me. This is a guy who um is pretty well off and he texted me and he said Listen, uh, I know you said sign up for star link. I I went ahead and signed up for star link business Because I think I'll get it faster And I was like Okay It's some connectivity. Yeah, really Yeah, that's uh, it's a challenge because you know where I'm at here in michigan We are lucky enough to have multiple providers. I have three fiber options at my office. That's down the street We have a site to site because of a building because one of the fiber providers also uses one of the big tall buildings that buy us As a point-to-point for offering connectivity. They sell service like that They're like a wisp, but they only sell business. They don't sell to the consumers And they use it as backup connections when you get their fiber And then we have two cable providers and a dsl all of those are available in this little area But this is the greater to trade area once you go like where my family lives like three hours away north some of my relatives Um, there's nothing my dad is on a really really slow wisp connection That he's at the edge of even getting We had to put a tower up to get it Yikes Yeah, we had to build a tower in his backyard just to be able to receive it. So Yeah, I think startling it's gonna be it helps add connectivity in some of these rural areas. So Have you seen the $50 flat rate t-mobile home isp service? No, it's yeah, look it out here. I'll I'll send you another link here T and this is not an endorsement. I have not tried this. I just think it seems cool And I think it's an idea that we might see more and more of Uh as we go forward here. So yeah, $50 flat rate. Look at this product Someone says in the chat real quick. Let me think chris. I found pre pbx videos and installed an old Elix appliance works great very helpful. Yes, very cool. Yeah, I'm uh, it's funny because I'm going through that video tutorial series Still I'm like 30 videos into that series The thumbnail has me with a shaved head because I started it during, you know, covid quarantine Uh, so it's like it's funny every time I put out a new video It's like I look completely different than when I started filming those but like they're they're difficult to do because they take some time, especially in editing and um, I want the content to be good And there's I said, it's it's probably a maybe 40 video series of which I'm like 30 videos into it And uh, I'm hoping to do like another four videos. I was gonna do it today But then, you know, I'm on this live stream. So I won't get to any video recording today But yeah, look at this 50 bucks a month flat rate not mobile 5g Uh internet and I put a tweet out about this and I said, hey, does anyone have this? How is it? And of course, it's going to be completely dependent on the 5g coverage in your area but Um, a lot of people said that they were getting really good like 80 to 150 megabit speeds Uh over 5g with this uh with this service and $50 flat rate is really good Especially yeah, if it's a backup internet service for you That is that is a really good price on that. I'm impressed. So Let's see what they're doing like that. I mean I I think there's a lot of opportunity in that market space for the wireless carriers to kind of pick up the slack Like and build a new business model and compete with the Comcast compete with them Um, and I seen I seen someone posted in here, uh, see Let's see unless your township signed an exclusive deal with a certain provider That should be meaningless. Uh Travis is a local and I know exactly what he's talking about and this is a problem here in michigan Several and me and me and the mayor got into a fun debate a couple times because he didn't like my cord cutting He literally didn't like my cord cutting video that got posted in one of his forum posts about the city Because they were mad is uh, they had data caps Before Comcast was talking data caps and his reasoning why is because he wants everyone to buy They have the their own cable tv service They have their own internet the city provides and they lock out them they lock out the competition from coming in But then they charge exuberant prices to the citizens So they they literally you get less if you live in that city you pay more for internet Then you will if you had Comcast in the adjacent cities and Comcast is not cheap and um, um, they have data caps lower than Comcast speeds worse than Comcast They took forever to get to dox's three and uh, yeah, so they uh, there's so many little nuances to those problems I know exactly what Travis is talking about and it's where the opportunity is you can't stop a Wireless tower because it already exists. Yeah 5g on there the citizens can have good internet again I didn't move to that city even though I liked when I was looking for houses We found some we really loved in the city Only the edges of the city have the potential to get some Comcast once you're in the city Nope, so I actually yeah had to remove them from my real estate search a couple years ago So a lot of people are saying The two people have said that the problem with the t-mobile service is that it's cgnat Which is very much like starlink, which is also cgnat Um, and again though for a backup internet service for home if you're like a home Like myself or you're very dependent on working out of your home office. Um, even if it is cgnat 50 bucks a month for a backup internet connection if I'm offline completely. I'm having a bad day Right, so 50 bucks a month is worth it to have that sort of peace of mind Now I do have like business class Comcast service with five static IP addresses But I only use those static IP addresses I don't have any services coming in I have I use the static IPs to connect out to securely To the servers that I administer right so, you know, we lock stuff down so that like my unify server Only my IP address can get to that unifier. So there would be some inconvenience if I was using it as a backup, but It's still not terrible. I mean, it's better than nothing Yeah, and in the reality is uh, I I gotta do some updated videos on this topic More people are behind cgnat. That's that's kind of a given but there are ways you can bridge between if you are Planning to build your home lab and you would like to have some service publicly exposed But even when you have a public IP address, this comes up with in the gaming community a lot There are ways you can do this you can build a vpn So your public IP is in vulture linode or digital ocean and then bridged back to your private IP And the reason you do that is really simple, especially in the gaming world. Um, people get mad. What do they do? DDoS that you're just getting taken offline and if they know your public IP They aren't just taking your game offline. They're really literally taking you offline You are just gonna get hammered. It's in if you're in we've helped people set this up It's just a tricky engineering thing to do bridging like a pf sense Out to a public IP address and then you're forwarding data across that particular port So you can get to it. There's also tools and one of the easy ones to install is Uh And grok if you haven't heard of it Uh, they actually have some really cheap pricing and a couple free tiers on this But this even allows you to put things out there when you want to host On networks that are internal and bridge them externally. There's there's different utilities for doing things like this Um, and matter of fact in some ways, it's better because you're not exposing your own public IP You're letting someone else deal with it. I can't tell you how much Uh adobe premiere pro masking I have to do in videos Uh to block out my own IP address like I purposefully Use a nadded IP address on my test network Specifically so that I don't have to accidentally give away my static IP address By missing something in a video, right? So it's the the wan ip is at 10.x So it's like it's an internal, you know network. It doesn't really matter that much, but yeah It's a real problem. Uh, you know, I had some in my last home I had Someone found out my wan ip and they were doing creepy stuff, you know Like con its comments about like oh, I see you live next to this or next to that or stuff like that, you know It's just like oh guys Really scary. Yeah, and uh, jeff girling. Uh, I actually made a joke at his expense I said come on jeff. I think they're d-dossing you so you keep making more d-doss content I mean because i'm really enjoying his series on how to stop d-dosses Yeah Yeah, he's been in the thick of it for sure Yeah, he's uh, I talked to him personally last uh last night. We're chatting about a couple things But uh, yeah, it's been a challenge for him to to do this. It's kind of like He you know, especially his He takes a lot of time because they're d-dossing his website He doesn't just do a video his videos are accompanied by a pretty extensive write-up They're almost part of his script that he used for the video so all of the commands So it's great. I can watch a video I can copy and paste commands get a better understanding or links to the things He was talking about all the github links, but then when your website's down cool I got to watch this video But I need those links to try to follow along with his raspberry pi projects and things like that It's really really quite aggravating and I mean jeff is just a super nice guy if anyone has a follow jeff girling show He's he's great. So and like the videos are Very well produced. I know he does write scripts for all of them Like said, he does the accompanying documentation. I don't think people understand the amount of time and effort that goes into that Uh, it's a lot. It's really a lot. Yeah the behind the scenes of being a youtuber is kind of just a lot when it comes to things And it can also be aggravating. I I actually um, I didn't get a chance. I was going to tweet this I I had a comment that made me pause but at least laugh Someone said have you considered tom the environmental impact of you wasting cpu cycles by recording at 60 frames a second It doesn't help your videos. I'm just like No, I have not that has not crossed my mind. No, it is not it doesn't seem to be the concern I have um, I guess I just wasted some extra render cpu cycles I mean, yeah, I probably don't have to record in 60 frames a second But I think it gives it a nice look. So I do Yeah Well, you should be like, you know when you put out your videos You can do yours at 10 frames per second and that'll negate the extra frames that tom's doing Yeah, just makes sense or don't use youtube because it's I don't know. Yeah, there's always it is always the um in trying to figure out You had tweeted about this yesterday to just kind of figure out what products people want which ones are not mad at you for doing um, there's always the uh The you're never going to please everyone is what I've always had to accept for quite a while But sometimes you really get these weird people Yeah, there's all sorts of you know, and it does take a certain level of like having thick skin to just beyond You know just to look at the comments in the first place Uh, but sometimes it just wears you down, you know, sometimes you just get worn down when I put out that tweet It was this it was the same thing. It was just like I was just having a day where like Something I think it was probably about two or three different things I had seen in 24 hours that just triggered me like Uh, each one is just a little little tiny knife in your heart and enough knives add up to where you're just like, uh, screw this You know, like why am I even why am I even making content on youtube? This is stupid I put you like I put four hours of effort into this little even if it's a short video the Not just the editing time, but sometimes the for me, especially I the net gate 4100 video was a little bit longer than I expected it to be but so much time took I had to set up different vpns do all the testing set up the Scripts to run the test then change settings run the test again I even went through the uh, and was playing with different ciphers and what happened when you turned on qat acceleration with this cipher Or you used the pot Was it the cha cha poly cipher and did the whole video and someone's like you didn't open it up You you wasted my time because you didn't open it up and I said I said I literally said I didn't open up because one There's no user serviceable parts in it and two net gate did a video where they opened it up I said you could see inside. I have no why would I take this thing apart? I also Um as I have it sitting here the little screws on the bottom are those um, not not security bit ones But I don't have a tool they're a weird torx and I have these at my office, but I'm at my studio right now and I'm like I could go get them and take it apart But also this plastic is a pain to get on and off. Oh is it really? Yeah It's just there's nothing to service inside of it and even net gate says that we didn't make this user serviceable um, if you order it with the extra Uh card in it the uh upgraded memory slot. It's a b slot. So you can't even hardly find these So they're not something you you have to order a special b slot. Uh memory expansion thing to put it in there That's it. That's the one thing you could do and even that case very clear on that It's all in your documentation and they say it in their own video that there's no user service And by the way, here's what it looks like they even do they did like a whole exploded view of it that I wouldn't do because um, they even warned me as I did ask them about taking apart They said don't separate the heat sink from the processor. That's hard to get back together. Good luck. Yeah So, yeah, it is fun to poke inside things, but if they've already done it That's you know, whatever you could even put up a screenshot of that here Here's it here. They already did it. Look at this video. I'll put a link down below or something Yeah, and that's how I feel like they they did cover they went and looked inside of it I did look inside the 6100. That's how I know how hard that plastic is to get on and off Yeah And I'm like, I'll leave that one alone It was I'll show you that I'll show you something cool. Hang on. I gotta grab something off screen here. All right I just got these in Product that I've never reviewed or even thought about reviewing They are IR blocking sunglasses or IR blocking I think you tweeted a picture that that was cool. I tweeted it out yesterday And actually they're not just IR. So look at these. These are really interesting Again, I paid for these with my own money for everyone who thinks it's a sponsored ad So look at these They look a little out. They look a little interesting, right? These ones so they make multiple versions. These are reflectacles These ones here have this this coating on them here this white coating Where the lenses are IR blocking It's like if you're wearing these you cannot unlock your iPhone with your face Oh, right. So that's that's the lenses and then this coating that's all around the lenses is A visible light reflector So if you are at wearing these in low light situations like at nighttime You show up is just a big white flash Like your whole face is just a big white flash on camera Didn't you there it is I'm gonna pull it up because you have it on you have that on twitter too, right? Yeah, I did put it a cup maybe a week or two ago. I did a screenshot of me wearing them Uh, yeah, look at that. So this is that's this exact pair So not only are you sort of thwarting facial recognition with the IR blocking lenses, which actually worked really well I put another tweet about that yesterday where I did sort of the comparison of regular glasses in these But then you have the visible light Which bounces back visible light into the camera That's nice. Isn't that crazy And they're actually surprisingly well built too like a lot of times with these glasses They are I mean, I don't know like like aesthetically or you know, I'm not the most fashion forward guy But like they look a little goofy but like They're super cool And my question on these is do you think you would get like if you just wore these through the airport? Or like through a casino. Do you think anyone would give you crap about it? I that's a question So I'm sure remember I remember there was an anti paparazzi thing that some of them used to wear It similar concepts so though when the flash hit it always reflected back at the camera and made it hard to take pictures of celebrities I remember something like that a couple of them had they would have different Things around them to do it. So it's kind of that same concept. Yeah, sort of I don't think there's rules against it either but you might get stopped and the thing is The ai facial recognition stuff is getting so Creepy now really um that and there's no There is literally no chance that legislation is going to catch up with it in the next decade No, the the only good thing to happen was with the irs They were going to use that one company. I can't remember their name But they were a facial recognition company and they wanted everyone to submit their facial recognition And uh, they got called up pretty quick for being outright shady and the history of that company was not good in terms of privacy And everyone's like, yeah, why doesn't the irs suddenly want us to use a third party authorization to prove who we are And they actually backed out of the deal. So the deal didn't close. So it's definitely Yeah, that's John. Uh, john alver just did a segment on this Or he did one not that long ago and it was clear view ai was the name of the company that was super creepy And they their whole business model is they went through and scraped Billions of pictures off of social media facebook and twitter and wherever they just scraped all the data And they were even like lawsuits were brought against them by those companies to say hey stop scraping all the pictures For for data and they basically did facial recognition scans on every picture And they put it into a big database where if you take a picture any picture You scan it with their app and it will show you matching it'll show you that person It'll show you all of the pictures they have of that person And this is by the way like me. I don't have a facebook account But like tom if you and I took a picture together and you put it up on your facebook account Uh, I am now in that database. Yeah, I am now in that database because of that, right? And so that's the type of scary stuff that's like I don't know So if you're especially if you're the type of person that's going out to protests or You know anything like that. It's probably not a bad idea To have and wear a pair of these Just to have every little bit of advantage that you possibly can Just in case, you know, like one of those sorts of things. Yeah, you know, and I've years ago and I actually this is something I have my like I think it's required was required reading I say for my kids because I told them read it Cory doctoral's book little brother and uh that talks so much about what could happen And what's interesting that book is now from like 2006 or 7 maybe it's a older book But boy They even kind of joke when they have Cory doctoral on for some of his interviews like Cory you seem to have predicted the future Did you know something and he's like nope? This is uh What happens? Let me mute my phone That's your google fi Yeah, that's uh, I forget sometimes to mute the tab that is google fi. There's not google doesn't have um They don't have a way to uh, say don't ring other than close the tab that it's on So I just they don't have a mute, huh? They don't have a mute, which I think is strange very strange So, you know, you know what I saw today on the road for the first time I saw my first rivian r1t Those are actually actually drove past me while I was out and about today I was like oh look oh my god Because I think it's the coolest truck and I've never actually seen one in person until today. I was very stoked about it There they are pretty slick. I love the reviews on them I think jerry reg everything did a video on it. He's got one. He's been a couple they've uh I like all the cameras see underneath cameras that is For someone who enjoys off-roading I'm like those are really cool things because you're not worried about what's going to go clunk under there You're watching everything around you. I think that's just really novel. It's really neat I mean, it's a truck that seems to hit all of the buttons, right? But except for like the problem that they got to get past is the towing um, if you like we're looking right now at getting a You know a little camper trailer like one of those like r pod size, you know camper trailer So that we can go camping, you know or go take it out, you know, uh, whatever camping and um And like I was like, oh well, maybe Maybe i'll just get the r1t and that'll give me a great excuse to get the truck that I want And be able to pull because it can pull like 11 000 pounds or something. It's crazy And then you read the reviews and as soon as you put it into tow mode it essentially drops the Uh battery capacity in half or worse. So basically When you're towing something with the truck and any electric truck You're basically getting about a hundred mile range And which means you're stopping every 60 to 90 minutes To recharge which on a long road trip is not feasible. It's just not feasible No, and the other challenge, uh, this is a big problem here in michigan with the current trucks that they are offering from ford and the maki is Like a big vacation spot here at traverse city and the one of the engineers that works for ford I go to car shows locally and he told me he says this is a challenge He's got he can't drive his maki to his cabin in traverse city and he said that's the problem There's no charging infrastructure. There is for tesla, but there's not for war the non teslas There's nobody has built any charging infrastructure right here in detroit We are a giant dead zone for any fast chargers. We only have the really really slow If you get they call level one the the chargers that are take like six hours The ones that you just connect your app up to them and then yeah, they take their charge like super slow It's like 30 amps or max or something like it's it's real real It's not it's no way you're gonna charge her because like you can't drive for an hour and go Oh, let me stop for six just to charge again Right, um, you know versus my tesla. No problem I drive my tesla too far reaching even the weird world areas of northern michigan tesla has put super charging stations That I can skip every other one and still make it to the top of the state to the middle of nowhere Oh, that's crazy, but the they you know, I don't know I imagine some type of ego or that his elan says he's willing to Lease it to other companies, but no one has taken him up on the offer, but I didn't he open source his He open sourced something was it not the charging technology? Yeah, he did and I think there's just an ego problem that people don't want to use it and I don't understand why um He so if you go back to I forget the name of the j 13 30 whatever the one the open standard one um The sae version So that one is on all the cars But when that one was available the reason in elan outlined this for a long time ago The reason he came up with the adapter he has is not to be proprietary But he says I am going to deliver this many amps. I don't have time for standards organizations to Eventually 10 years from now approve something which he's right It did take him 10 years to approve better dc fast charging He goes I want to do fast charging when I release the model s in 2012 So he had these fast charging adapters debt by the way 10 years later He still got the same adapters and they still work and they still fast charge And the other company is going hey now we have one. Oh cool guys. You caught up to what I was doing 10 years ago, right? There was some article that I saw it was just one of those things where I saw the headline I was like, oh, that's interesting. I think it was I want to say it was like Montreal or Ottawa. There was some Uh, I believe it was some sort of canadian town that was looking at implementing a $10,000 charge on gas stations that don't have electric charging capability by like 2028 or something like that like basically like forcing the hand of gas stations to implement um electric uh vehicle charging, which I think is a really great idea. Um Yeah, we just need to it's kind of a cart and a horse like people to buy more electric vehicles If there was more electric charging there's not enough electric charging So it's hurting the sales of electric vehicles with the exception of tesla who you got to wait six months to get it But that's I you know for me is in michigan. I can't even buy in as someone pointed out here Detroit's the center of the world for vehicle vehicle manufacturing We still are pretty big and heavy in the manufacturing But it's always weird like the mocking ford pushed it But ford's also not doing anything to help build infrastructure. Um to charge it So you kind of just charge it at home and don't go outside of your radius to your house and I have a numerous numerous friends who work at ford And uh got mockeys early and things like that because they couldn't believe like time We have to support the company I work for and I'm like, oh good luck. I want to ride in my car to trevor city There I said I sent you the link that's the it was vancouver vancouver somewhere in canada. So 10 000 canadian annual fee uh For gas stations that don't that don't provide 50 kilowatts of charging power Oh cool. I mean It's Interesting partnership was reached uh in ohio and pennsylvania the name of the company eludes me right now But it's a gas station and all in um their gas stations are split One side is traditional gas station Then you have like a store party store to actually have some snacks and a little kind of like a fast food place They have a small deli and on the other side is a tesla charging station So if you park on the tesla slide you walk in you park on the other side you walk in When I travel south like well actually I stopped at them when I mean you were in pittsburgh at one time And it's kind of cool all their travel stations have split it like that and it's kind of nice I can you got two electric charging stations And I think they have tesla and then two stalls that are like the other charging stations are standard Yeah, right, right. Yeah, which is pretty cool. I mean and even right now they're building side by side Some of the tesla ones with that so it's it's coming along taking taking some time Well, I'll tell you that's one of the sort of I guess unintentional side effects of the you know current hike in gas prices Which you know, I'm sure we'll settle back down at some point, you know, it always does but So many people are like why am I paying all this money for gas, you know electric cars? Are looking much more attractive these days, which I love. I think that's great. Yeah, it's it's gonna get there The speed is also there for the car enthusiast. So I'm seeing the car enthusiast crowd get into it Like I tend some of the local car shows and they're going oh the first they were like skeptics, but now they're kind of okay That is kind of cool. Yeah Making it kind of fun. Let's pivot real quick here. I have About 200 people on here 195 but only 50 likes so people hit the like button man Let's do a giveaway. Tom. What do you have to give away? I have nothing to give away today I did not plan around you. You must have something. Come on. I know that picture. There's a picture hanging on the wall behind you I have mince. I'm giving up free mince Thumbs up if you want to see tom do a giveaway Yeah, I don't know what he's gonna give away. Maybe he'll make that part up later. That's right I will mention though this uh, because this is almost I wanted to talk about here There's two things and first one. This is a service. We're using And I think this is pretty cool. Let me get to the right tab is unify we talk a lot about them and uh, they are Well, not always in stock because everyone is quick to point out. Matter of fact, that's my other Review, well, you reviewed the product, but I can't get it. I'm like, well, look, I don't I don't I don't control the supply chain And I don't know when likes the word supply chain. It's a dirty word without fail You will get that comment at least once on any Ubiquity video that you put out like absolutely Yeah, but um, this is a service. Uh, that can let you Find out exactly when things are in there. So it's uh, it is pretty cool. Yeah, so we built ui notify Um specifically for that reason, um, mostly because I wanted it There were some, um people that were already kind of doing something similar. So like there's a reddit There's a sub reddit that does a product in stock notifications for ubiquity gear There's also the sort of official unofficial ubiquity discord that had something similar to this But they actually kind of moved it behind like an activity wall not really a pay wall But like you had to maintain some Higher level of activity in their discord server in order to get access to the stock notifications Um, yeah, so we we built this ui notify Um, basically just to have a way for people to get Um, they're Stock notifications and there's a number of ways that you can get it for free everyone Bitches about hey, why are you charging money for this? We charge the 499 per month that you see right there We charge that because sms messages are expensive. Yeah, if you don't know the back end they are Cost to this anyone who's watching this. I promise you this is not putting any food on my table It's not at all it's just basically covering our costs for the sms stuff But you can get it for free if you sign up via email You can get it for free if you follow at ui notify on twitter And you can get it for free in the crosstalk discord We are giving away all of this information for free all of those ways if you're interested in signing up for the pro version You can get tweets as i'm not excuse me sms messages as well That's basically and you can also filter on products like if you only want to look for specific products You don't want to get notified about everything That's where you can sign up and and get that which a lot of people have found very helpful Yeah, and in you know travis, uh local. He's also, um, you know does it and this is um, Absolutely, like it's worth it to me to pay a few dollars to Get these things. This is a real You know Problem is making sure things are in stock. I'm not gonna lie that We're using it and we're buying sometimes all of it We now have a lot of boxes at my office because we have some big projects that we're like Uh, the customer said yes, we got a deposit. We have a scheduled date. We don't have as much product Now we're one of the things I want to be upfront about and we're because I see a lot of people asking this question How do you deal with customers in a supply chain tom? I'm like be honest with them. Don't lie. You're gonna get in trouble Sure We tell them Exactly what we're doing where we are buying as much stock as we can our goal is to meet your delivery date This is also why the install is saying yes and the install date or not as close as they would like to be because we are being very realistic to say This is what we think we'll have enough product to get your install done. This is the reality of uh things, right? Or you have to be a little bit malleable with the actual equipment that you're using, right? So like maybe this model is not available, but here's a model that'll work You know, maybe the price is a little bit higher or lower. So you got to work that out But it is possible and for someone who especially for someone who resells Ubiquity equipment for projects, you know cameras and stuff like that, right? This the service is super valuable We get a lot of comments of people that are like, thank you for for doing this because it's not really it's not necessarily a problem of Ubiquity not getting stuff in stock as we've seen they get stuff in stock very regularly Yeah, you just the stock flies off the shelves before you can get it yes It tells you how many's in stock and then you're it's funny because brett was yelling in the office yesterday He's my sales manager. He yells on the hallway. Hey, there's about this many in stock. Should I buy him? And I said, I'm busy. I got off the phone. He's like There's about half as many in stock Quit asking me just buy him. This is how many we need it will make a sheet for you I just saw actually today Some sun max stuff came into stock which is really because I I almost thought that that was like a End of life discontinued. Yeah, kind of like a discontinued thing But they had some of those sun max sun switches came into stock And I also see they get big drops of like the g3 instant cameras They go very quickly because they're super cost effective like 29 bucks even at like limit two per customer They did a drop of like a thousand of them the other day and they were gone within a few hours Um, which is just crazy. So it's not that they don't get stock It's that you have to be the timing is the is the problem Yeah, and you know, I kind of going back to that I said posted yesterday And of course, there's plenty of comments on the neck gate 400 people upset about it costing a little more And this is another side of the supply chain is it costs when you're when you're a Small manufacturer like neck gates are making the product They're not just slapping the name neck gate on something they actually engineer it They find the manufacturers which also means they have to source the products the chips and everything else and uh, it's causing Between delays because there's a finite amount of it and I kind of learned through Them and some links I read and things like that. Um, what's going on behind the scenes is there's Just a finite supply of some of the chips. Uh, this is especially there was a photo of someone I posted Finally, there's been like a nine month delay on Um, a bunch of the gm trucks that they couldn't gm her for they couldn't ship them So they have this weird brand new truck lot this graveyard it looks like because there's weeds growing It's an old lot. They don't have so many trucks like they can build them And they're sharing the chips to start the truck and drive it out to the lot and then they take it out They go walk back in the place and we start the next like we tested the truck We're waiting for the chips but it's driving up all the prices sometimes or Unifine's actually been a good job. I think keeping the prices reasonable But the supply is the the slow side for them. Yeah, so they seem to be able to get that So yeah, the imbalance in the market right now With the economy doing well enough that people want to go forward with projects But that demand exceeding the ability for people to manufacture them at scale, right? Is uh, it's created a really weird market here in 2022 It is and you see some stuff, especially like said by I was I was saying earlier We're in the market for uh, some sort of truck that can pull a small camper and um Like you know how hard that is to buy that's what I mean It's just like and it's not that it's hard. It's it's hard to buy basically like The the the dealerships will get like two or three at a time You know, maybe every two or three weeks they get a small drop of vehicles And they've got a waiting list for them like people are already like I don't care what Features it has. I don't care what color it is. I just want it Tell me when it's in and I'll buy it. You know what I mean? And that's what that's just crazy, especially in the auto market, which is You know, it's not these things aren't cheap Nope, I I've got offers because I uh, I bought a new truck last year. Well, slightly used truck It was only a couple years old. Um, my offers now are up to 4,000 more than I paid for it almost two years ago They I can get for that truck. It's crazy We actually because we get so my wife's Jeep um later and because we couldn't believe the offers on it She she had a 2016 Jeep. She drove it for several years and she was able to get I was like, I can't believe they're offering you that much for the Jeep Like really it's just yeah, the vehicle market is just wild right now Well, and like uh, just another schmuck you see that comment is that Americans have been so used to instant junk to your home Some scarcity freaks people out and you're you're not wrong about that Um on top of the fact that I think America like much of the world Um has now built an economy Um very dependent on the cheap labor out of um, you know other Malaysia and China and in India or wherever, you know, we source these products from That is it'll be interesting to see how that plays out. Uh, I don't think any time real soon But maybe like in like towards the end of our lifetimes in our kids lifetime certainly, um, if those Just if politically or economically those supply chains get severed Um, especially in the u.s. We're gonna have a big problem. It's gonna be a big big problem Yeah, it's It's I don't think people use how delicate it is little little disruptions have like that ripple effect It's the butterfly effect something bad happens here And uh, uh ship gets stuck in the canal sideways the next thing, you know, everything's expensive for a little while I'm looking at my security cameras right now. It is hailing outside. Oh, we got that this morning um Before we get to the end of this one more thing I wanted to mention and I thought this was, uh, cool thing You posted is you're looking at uh doing a class Yeah, well, I should say we are doing a class on free pvx. That is, um If you go to clearly ip.com slash events that is our free pvx course that is coming up in june um, and along those same lines we are Debating whether to do a networking course because the free pvx course it is always very well received It provides a lot of valuable information. That's photoshop. By the way, that's not actually my body. I don't know It kind of looks like my body. I'm I'm not quite that thin anymore But but yeah, that is a photoshop. I always find that funny But this is myself and tony lewis who's the ceo of clearly ip So we have this course coming up in june, which is always a good one, especially the summertime course because it's not nearly so cold outside but We are also looking at the possibility of doing a networking fundamentals course not based on unify but based on More just core fundamentals. We would be using pf sense netgate pf sense appliance along with some switch We're not sure exactly which switch yet. You know, we're still in the preliminary stages of this We just wanted to get a feel for number one Would people be interested in attending this course at the prices that we put down there It's about 500 bucks a day to attend topped by myself and our network guru, uh, david barger Um, and then like where would where would be a good spot for it? Now look at these list of cities tom if you were going to guess we've had like close to 60 responses on this form What do you think is the number one? Most requested city to host an event like this out of this list that's right there vegas No, it's atlanta georgia really buy a long shot It goes atlanta georgia number one then dallas texas then portland, oregon vegas wasn't anywhere near it Wasn't even the top three which i would have thought vegas would have been up there too, but no Yeah, just like hey, let's just fly to vegas. Yeah Well, I also thought that san francisco would be popular because that's like, you know It's so easy to get to san francisco Uh, and it's in california, you know, it's nice uh in san franc especially in like the summertime I think new york would be the hardest like new york's closer to me But new york would be challenging to get a venue and it is it's getting around new york is not easy Yeah, maybe we would do like uh hoboken or something, you know close close to new york, but a little bit cooler than uh, then Make it make it awesome. I love boston. That's uh, boston's a really cool place and it's actually Uh easy to get around there. It's you know, I like you because it's kind of cool and historic Well, we put up dallas texas, but in thinking about it I was like we'd probably rather do austin because austin is just so cool If you've ever have you been to austin before I have not been to austin. Oh, it's such a cool city It's like, uh, it's just got a really cool vibe to it. Whereas dallas is mostly just concrete if you enjoy concrete Welcome to dallas texas They said you didn't have detroit on the list. I don't have detroit on the list. How close are we to detroit though? I guess not really Yeah, uh, Atlanta. I guess or new york would be the closest new york is probably the closest on this list to the Detroit, yeah, we don't have anything we we could probably do chicago. Maybe it would be a good choice Which is kind of in that General area. I know chicago is very far from you, but you know what I mean, like just chicago's about Three and a half or four hour drives. That's not too bad. That's about that That's what it was and when I lived in los angeles. That was the drive to vegas was about three and a half four hours And that was that that was easily doable for a weekend, you know Now it's not so easy to get there from organ No, and that's um, it's actually our joke being my tech friends that are here is like we're going to a tech event and on May 5th in chicago be in like I asked a couple of me going to go Well, of course, it's the only one that we can drive to because there is nothing that happens in chicago in detroit There's well with the exception of one thing that's happening kubernetes con the big kubernetes conference Happens to be held in detroit, which Is put on by the linux foundation themselves, which i'm like, oh cool. That's pretty reputable And uh, I actually one of my friends works for the linux foundation in here I said, I didn't know you guys were actually doing an event here and he said I didn't know one either He goes, why are we doing it here? And I was like, I don't know man. You're actually doing it in detroit I think that's strange because we don't have any tech conferences here We everything we hear what conference wise Um is automotive related, you know the international auto show and things like that nothing Really tech related But yeah, so a lot of people did say the class should be remote. Um, which we've we're we might do that You certainly make it a lot cheaper And just do it But there's a lot of logistical issues with doing a class like this remote versus In person right in person We have all the equipment the instructors are right there to look over your shoulder and help you with things as we're doing the labs So it's just a lot easier To do it in person. Um, and I just feel like There's much more value in it for the students When they are right there plus if you're doing it remote You're paying, you know, maybe not as much money but You're also Doing it remotely and you can be much more easily distracted like you won't get as much out of the course Um, I think doing it remotely, but we have talked about us We might do that but we just have to figure out the right way to do it Yeah, it's tricky and there is um, because we've even we've joked around about this Me and my wiring team because there's a lot of people I see how to do training on wiring And it's we've done some videos on it and the videos have done well and we're like do we do more training videos on this? Um, or do we bring people to a place and hold the training? It's one of the reasons I brought it up is something we've been thinking about as well So i'm just completely spitting out loud here about it. Um, it's you know, let me know if there's something Like that, but check out, you know, chris does the networking stuff I thought about some of that infrastructure like how to set up a rack and some of that stuff might be another add-on as well um, we do so much of it and It's one of those things you can only learn so much from um, You know reading a book on it or something like that It's like chris said they easily distracted But when someone an instructor walks you through a pile of stuff and turns it into a functioning thing And your phone's not in your hand. You're not There's there's a better more focused starting plus You may have a question or a concept that's harder for you to raise your hand remotely on but when you're in person you can go Oh, hey, what's why did you plug in the red wire there? yeah Yeah, no the cabling videos are probably mac telecom is saying the cabling videos are probably people do love the cabling videos They're just they're a little They're kind of consuming. They're hard to make. Yeah, they are hard to make yeah, I have Numerous ones in the queue right now and uh, well one of them So I literally was supposed to record the next part. I'm trying to remember the date. It probably about uh Six months ago Is when we started it For all kinds of delays for every reason imaginable and then we were supposed to finish punching down yesterday So I was going to go film it the guy called us. He wants 40 more drops installed. We're like good But now the project's still not finished again So now I can't show any of the finalization videos because they also moved a couple things and then added 40 more drops. So Yes, it's You love that adding on adding on to the project Yeah, so just adding on to it. So it's um And what's weird is like if you looked at my folders for these videos I have all the video of different things matter of fact, it's one of them I think I showed we were pulling 20 boxes at a time of cable There because it's such a big project. It covers multiple floors But like any of these projects, there's just been the delay after delay the drywall guys apparently I don't know what happened to them. That's all I know is they were Unavailable for like two months or something like that is what caused the biggest part of the delay We ran everything and they're supposed to put the drywall up above it. We don't know what happened to them We just know they're not available. That's all it's the only answer we get so let's try well going in Because it's yeah, if you go to some of the jobs It's like new construction. So they have on the wall like a gantt chart all the dates of things that are going to happen It's just a big question mark where the drywall guys. It's like way past the date. They're supposed to install There's just no drywall I don't know buddy. Yeah That's what you done. Have you done any playing with your flipper zero? No, that's actually my friends and I was playing with that at his house. Um, I and he let me He told me I could borrow it but I said not yet because I don't want to get distracted So I said for the moment Please leave it at your house and play with it And then I'm going to come bug you because I was going to the firmware updates because he told me Some more updates are coming to it. So he's doing some testing with it. Still that way I can pick his brain Um, and he was hoping I would test it and then he could pick my brain, but I said no, I'll put the onus on you You bought it. Yeah, no, I've got my I've got mine, but um, like the The functionality that comes with it by default is not, um, I mean it's very limited What you can do with it without like adding on your own packages to it Which takes a little bit of you know research and you know downloading from github and people that have started to design You know things that you can do with this above and beyond what it's allowed to do when you get it from the company But it's pretty cool device. I mean, I've certainly learned some stuff with it. Um, I think I have it set up so I can Is it the sub gigahertz? I'm looking at mine. I'm looking at mine right now I know it's the rfid saved. Oh no empty folder So it doesn't seem to save stuff too, which is interesting Like I had it set up so that I could turn this light behind my cabinet on and off With the with the thing and that worked pretty well. Also the ir light inside the cabinet was I'd be able to turn on and off Uh, I was able to read the signal for my automated blinds, but I couldn't actually reproduce the signal so that it would work So there's just some interesting like There's some interesting stuff you can do with it. I love the idea of it. It's just not quite um Super functional yet. Yeah, and I think that um, I think it was an episode or two ago Steve Gibson covered how toya was doing the remote starts and it should work perfectly fine for that because toya's decided They're not fixing it. Um, apparently they didn't put any security. You can just replay and it will just work There's a bunch of stuff toya just which is weird because these are like 2016 2017 and this is after There's been incidents with other automotive companies, but toya's like, yeah, that's the thing. Sorry Oh, wow So you think that like with that sort of wireless remote like even garage doors have like rolling codes, right? Like, you know, every time you hit the button, it's basically a different code uh But like surprising to not have that on your car And that's kind of what was curious about the way to implement it going They did this implementation and other vehicles they have they did it right but these there's a whole bunch of them that didn't get it right but Previous ones had it. They just didn't roll the code. It's static So it's replayable and they're like there's not even the the counter for the rolling code part and they're like, that's kind of problem guys like you didn't um, this is I don't know. I don't understand, uh the automotive market in general because uh to Not last year, uh, but the year before I was at def con hacker village for the car hacking village. Yeah I have a couple friends being here in Detroit. They're their day job in and out is um Being car hackers and I learned so much about just how bad like there's never like when they pen test the car They don't just win. They have to figure out how many wins they're gonna get right Right, there's always things that are just really goofy with car companies. So Yeah, it's um That's not so I'll get all heads off. They're not finding many hacks with tesla Everyone's going after them because they have pretty big bug bounty program But the other automotives. Yeah, they they're not they're not there. Yeah slowly getting there I still I still really enjoy my tesla. It's been um That my opinion of tesla as a car has stayed the same over the last like three plus years that I've owned it My opinion of elon musk has gone down drastically But I still do love the car. I absolutely love that model three. It's so much fun to drive Yeah, you know, and that's that's the thing I I celebrate the things he does right and the tesla's one of them I have 50,000 my 49,000 actually just so just about 50,000 on my car bought it in 2019 I think that's when you got cheers too. Was it 2018 or 2019 18 at 2018, right? Yeah, and I'm happy with it. I don't know how many miles running years now I don't know either. I mean, I can look it up in the app. It's one of the nice things about getting miles around there, um But uh, I mean I had I'm not gonna deny problems with it. I had the charge door network They replaced center warranty. They just didn't pop open anymore. I don't know you hit the button It would go it would do this kind of limp thing it would go Is it wouldn't open all the way and I'm like, uh, they're like, did you break it? I'm like, we mean I always hit the button it opens and I hit the button one day and it went It just kind of it won't stay up, but you could hold it up in charge So it didn't stop me from driving but they fixed that in warranty. So how many miles? 45,000 miles the um though The service is great. Like like it's been so the closest, um Tesla service center to me is about two hours away And there's only been I think once or twice that I've actually had to go there anytime else I've needed its service. Um, they send the remote car out to me, which is great Including the worst problem that I ever had with the car is one of the front skid plates Flew off the car while I was driving That like I was it was raining and it's kind of like that Not like cardboard, but not like really carbon fiber type material And it just with the rain and the wind it just this were Covered or went around the screws It just wore away and so like I was driving on the freeway normal speeds It was raining pretty hard and I see out the back of my window this Just up in the air This like, you know three foot by four foot section of the underside of the car Luckily it flew up and like off to the side of the highway Uh Because that could that could really cause an accident or something. That's like a big problem Uh, but yeah, they called them up, you know, I looked under the car and sure enough There's a skid plate missing and called them up and they just did it right at my house Like they came out Within about three or four weeks and brought it out It took a long time because it's not like something common that they replace a lot. Yeah, but that was Not a good problem Other than that, it's been pretty solid. Like I haven't really had a lot of problems with the car at all Yeah, I I got caught up with the recall on the ball joints But the ball joint started making some noise The squeaky noise, right the squeaky noise. Yeah, I had that too and I had to take that one into Portland to get it fixed Yep, but it's great. They fixed it under warranty. Like, yeah, awesome. They fixed it No problem and they didn't just do the one that was squeaking. They did both sides. So great now problem mitigated They didn't find anything else wrong with the car and then uh, I I told my wife She forgot to honk the horn when it happened A big piece of metal came off of a truck and went through the headlight. I mean it blew it out and But I told her to honk. She would have gotten the license plate of the truck because what She lost the clip from the recording Wrote over because it was a I was in a long drive. But anyways, um, it was actually interesting So I looked up how to replace the tesla had light and then after I seen you have to take the front of the car off I decided to call tesla. Yeah But they came out and fixed it now. They didn't charge me for it But um to have think about it this from any other vehicle you have if you have a problem with it And this would be for my truck if something smashed the front end and I want it fixed I drop it off the dealership. They'd have it for some untold amount of time And I would be inconvenienced they came to my house They fixed it I think it took them about two hours because he did have to take the front of the car off He took the bumper off man, man, this is where you know, there's a professional Every video I watched said take the bumper off This guy says I do these all the time He grabbed a series of zip ties and hung the bumper off zip ties down far enough to get the whole headlight assembly off He goes this leaves you all the trouble because then he didn't have to take off any sensors because he just pulled off Just the clearance enough and I was like, oh, that's cool like He's he's done this before he goes. He'll save you some labor. I'm like Dude, you're my garage. Just let me know when it's done. I'm not going anywhere today. So he knocked on the door I'll set man. It was like cool So when I took my uh, when I took mine in for that the squeaky wheel problem They let me borrow a model s for the day Have you driven a model s? I've ridden in one, but I've not driven one. It is Surprisingly heavy Compared to the the model three is so nimble compared to that car. It was actually like shocking I figured the model s is going to be like the model three, right? I'll kind of drive in the same way It's just a little bit different style probably a little bit quicker or whatever Oh man, it was like it felt like I don't know you can just feel how heavy a car is while you're driving it It is way heavier than the model three like shockingly heavier and Of course, they put the model s in like slow mode chill it was locked into chill mode Uh, when they handed out to uh To people like myself that are like, oh, I'm gonna stop. I'm gonna it's a rental car or whatever. I'm gonna gas it, you know Accelerate it and people hate when I say gas it when I'm talking about electric cars But yeah, oh, that was pretty funny. I'm like, oh shoot. It's stuck in chill mode I I have not my uh One of my tech acquaintances he's been posting. He got the plaid and I'm like, oh I want to ride in that he I said how is it when he got it and I texted him. He's like amazing Yeah, he goes it is stupid. He goes I can't help it. He goes you can't not smile the entire time. You're like Well, and even even the even the model three is stupid acceleration like yes I never I never the only time I ever really hit the accelerator in the model three is when I'm showing it to someone And that's it like I never do that when I'm driving normally It's just it's fun showing people. That's it. Yeah, it's fun to show off. That's about it That's about it. It's a fun car to drive. I actually do highly recommend. Uh, at least everyone tried to drive it. Um At some point because it's it's really a fun car and I just recommend All of these new electric cars coming out are just I don't know. I love to see this happening. There are some that I think are a little goofy like the lucid Oh, which is just stupid expensive Uh for I guess it's a nice luxury car, but it's like ridiculously expensive And even the rivians and the rivians are very expensive too. They just jacked up the prices on them To like by like 10 grand or something Yeah, the rivians and then the Hummer is I don't insanely built like the I watched a review of that one. I'm just like what so Uh, we are I will mention that we are going to wind this down because I do have and I don't know if Chris does But I know I have a few things to do in a little bit here. So we'll give about 10 more minutes of rapid fire questions. So Yeah Oh, let's see We have a couple that I can go back and look Someone ask if you'll do a training in london I would love to I haven't been to london since Oh gosh, I was in my 20. So it's been at least 20 or 25 years Since I've been in uh in london. I would do uh, canada as well. I think that would be great Yeah, I have not been to toronto before But I have been to Ottawa and vancouver and I very much enjoyed both of those places Yeah, they're um Trying to find the right location for geography. I've never been I've never been to london. So I would uh It's not my to do. I think london would be cool. Some of those places sound interesting, so You know what I thought would be amazing, uh, would be to have a meet-up of some sort with fans at the um Star wars edge of the galaxy in disneyland Hmm. I went there recently Oh man, I could have spent all day. I mean it's in it's just a smaller part of disneyland, right But I could have spent literally all day long just walking around the star wars area of disneyland because they have like, um Sort of like ar games that you can play There's an app that you download and you can like scan there's like bar or qr codes on Various crates and items spread all throughout the land So you're collecting items on your app as you're standing in line And as you're just walking around They have like quote-unquote radio signals that you can pick up and decode There's like midi media to play mini games to decode radio signals And you get like special instructions or special missions from people all through this app like while you're hanging around in there and it's just So cool and so well done. I was like a kid in a candy shop running around there and my You know my wife and kids are there and they're just going like come on. This is disneyland Let's say and I'm like no, no, no. No, I want to stay here like let's let's do it. We got to do this We got to do that. You know, I'm drinking blue milk You know, I went to the cantina and got a drink just to get in there and get a drink, you know and like Oh, that's cool. I loved it Uh someone said here now I can tell chris. I'm happy with the unlimited at&t sim So they think to me as I think last week and I said I didn't sell any at&t sims I guess you had an offer Yeah, we um, we have uh a resell we we resell at&t unlimited sim cards. It's 119 dollars No throttling and no bandwidth caps, uh at all And people have been enjoying it. We um, it's just sort of something we Decided to do at some point because we were doing some lte videos And uh, yeah a lot of people have taken us out and we're again, it's not putting Like food on the plate or anything, but it's It's a good little, you know, we're happy to refer people to it and it's it works really well And you know, we do um Uh, we we do a lot of work with uh pep wave and peplink that works So it was kind of just went hand in hand with the pep wave and peplink work that we were doing He's you'd use a lot of those for the failovers Yes, right Or for special use cases like one of our guys dave barger the guy that's teaching the network course with me He did a lot of work with local police municipalities and stuff And so he got a lot of experience with the pep wave stuff in police cars and like how all of that works So, okay, um, i'm assuming christie. I don't think you do like I do the managed computer services, right? We do not. No, so we don't do any sort of managed like monthly recurring type of services for customers. We do Um, mostly just like consulting on big network projects wireless isp projects You know point to big point to multi point deployment stuff like that and then the phone systems, right? So that's sort of our bread and butter. Um, you know, we've thought about maybe doing some msp stuff but there's usually see the problem with msp stuff is that it is It's much better to run an msp when you can roll a truck to your local area If you have to right it's much more difficult to Be a sort of nationwide managed service provider When you can't actually send someone out on site Um, so we kind of just always stayed out of that business. All right now the msp work that you do Is it all local detroit area? No, um, we actually so we got about just about 70 businesses that we're the outside of g4 But a lot of those are co-managed and so we're working with internal it teams But it's msp is a broad term if we narrow down to what we're doing a lot of this has to do with providing security services providing audit services for their networks and The end point management, you know managing patch manager managing security was set in the one and huntress That's the cyber security side of the world. I get into a lot. So it's sometimes someone may call that msp Managed security service fighter, but there's I just call it msp It's a broad topic based on what you support We do have a lot of companies here in detroit area that we support because like chris said You can't be the outside at and not have boots on a ground You can use and i'll throw a name out there not as an endorsement just as one of them available There's places like field nation where you can try to find a tech But everyone will always say i'm not endorsing it because well trying to find a tech It's it's a hodgepodge of random that will show up And you're trying to service your client and it's good bad Not it's a random and I don't want to deal with it. So we don't use any third party services Our target audience is you have to have techs on site and they don't have to be like the high end IT person We have a big storage project. We're doing for a healthcare provider They're Tech savvy enough to support their line of business applications. They do not know how to replace the servers They don't want to plug them in that's all we need So we're shipping all the servers there and labeling where they need to be plugged into migrate all their data storage You know when we we did that project like the petabyte server There's internal IT teams, but they weren't specialized in setting up storage at that scale We know how to the storage of that scale. So we'll do all the plug it in here plug it in there So that's it managers writer But into a niche that we do it in so Very cool What's your opinion on fedora red hat distros or debian? I'm a debian person all the way myself I am too. I used to like sentos a lot I kind of moved away from sentos to ubuntu and then now that sentos is moving to like as a service os or something they're like doing some weird. Yeah cloud os or something I don't know people were not happy with that decision. So i'm kind of glad that I Made the shift to ubuntu a while back. I also just like It's just nice standardizing on a particular distribution because you know like the package manager and you know like the sort of nuances of that os versus Having multiple different kinds, but free pbx is all sentos based So yeah, we kind of are we kind of have our if i'm building a server that's anything not a free pbx I use ubuntu Uh and otherwise I I just use the you know the sentos 7 variant. Yeah, I'm apt kit I'm so familiar with that. So ubuntu and a debian are reasonably interchangeable for Myself when it comes to a lot of that and then for the desktop os I really like pop os. I'm pretty happy with It's in it visually it's ubuntu with some polish added. So it's not like i'm far off of that Um identical hardware with pf sense and troubleshoot slow vpn transfer speeds Well, this is a wild card check your ciphers to make sure you're using the optimal ones Which is going to be for 256. I think it's aes gcm If you have support if you also have the option for cha cha poly 230 That's built in now to pf census 2.6 open vpn But you can sometimes get inconsistent speed because uh mtu's packets One of the comments from the developer christian mcdonald on wire guard Was to set the mtu and mss clamping slightly lower So the mtu's fit within the way your internet provider. There's so many tuning features on this I don't think there's an easy one off go to is there christ you think Sorry, my wife was calling me. So I was sending her a message saying I am still on a live stream I did not hear your question um troubleshooting uh pf sense and open vpn transfer speeds having like slower inconsistent speeds on a uh open vpn Oh, I you know again, it's just one of those things. It could be so many different things You know, it's also could just be the upload speed remember that you're limited to the upload speed on both sides Right. So like for instance, um, we were testing an sd wan appliance, which is not exactly the same But it's you know, it's you're doing transfers across a wan um, and we're like, I'm like god, I've got like a Just a brain fart moment. I'm like, I've got a 300 megabit internet connection. Why is this transferring at 20 megabits? I don't understand and then I'm like, oh of course because it's the upload speed on the other side That's the problem, right? And so you just have to factor in everything, you know And with with any troubleshooting Take a step back Look at the whole picture and then break it into pieces and look at each piece individually, right? That's just for anything that you're troubleshooting. That's sort of the way that you can approach it Yeah, I actually laughed jack reciter had tweeted yesterday. He goes. I always think of myself as the packet That's how I troubleshoot better. I was like fair enough fair enough be the package I like that. That's actually really good. Yeah, you just walk through all the steps and uh, Especially with firewalls and I do this all the time I just like you mentioned earlier you double natum because you got to take the internet out of the equation What will it do without the external factors? Because once we have established a baseline of it will transfer at this speed with this factor And if you go back watch just the testing portion of my neck gate 4100 video I show the speed difference of if you run a couple extra services on pf sense Those services are right intensive to the drive So when you run a test at full speed on a vpn it tests fast a moment later it tests slow the Then the load on the pf sense goes up and you can watch it's still writing the log from what it just saw So if you run a second speed test, it just dropped and it would lose like 100 megs It would go from 800 down to 600 while it was catching up with writes and when the right to catch up It would go back up and by turning off that extra application that was doing all the logging and the right intensiveness It would save a more consistent speed. There's oh, that's why it's so hard. You have to look at everything When we do it when we do these consulting so much of a consulting is doing these obvious steps We've now spilled the secret sauce of what we do Oh, you mean google it Oh, yeah, we google it and we set things to default like that's the biggest thing we do as consultants is We set things to default because you probably turned every knob and then you didn't document what knob you turned So the first thing you do is default settings because troubleshooting what you did is hard Yeah, that's right It's very like in the void world, you know, it's it's like we'll get a lot of calls where it's like Hey, I have one way audio and you know 99.999 percent of the time one way audio is related to the firewall. It's related to some sort of NAT issue usually um, and so we'll tell people well First question is do extension to extension calls have one way audio? Yeah, right Do your local calls have one way audio and the answer is usually no and then we're like, okay, so it's the firewall So it's it's when it's traversing that firewall. That's where you're having your problems or it's NAT settings in the in the server Yep I like probably last question here would be hey Chris. Will you make all another video in ubiquity or micro tick configuration? Um, I don't think I'm going to do any micro tick I you know, I again, I just am not familiar enough with it It just it's such a learning curve to get into a whole new brand of firewall um, I will certainly do more ubiquity videos. In fact, I'm sort of starting to do some more just basic videos like I put one out this week on um, hey, this is how you do a static Mapping in DHCP with both unify and edge OS, right? So basically sort of showing like one basic thing that's a good tool to have in your tool belt For any of these products Which is actually kind of interesting someone said what was it? Someone said if you are in unify and you set up a static map I think it was like you can't change That unify won't let you change the subnet If you still unless you delete all of the static maps first Or something there was something weird like that where like you have to delete all the static maps in order to make some sort of Change that was in there, which you know, I guess makes sense But on the other hand if you it should just allow you to change the subnet and then those static mappings are now just useless right It shouldn't like block you from making changes yeah, it's Unifies gets some just weird quirkiness in there I'm happy you're doing a video because people have been bugging me to do one I'm like no, I've actually direct them. I see chris has some I don't feel like repeating it chris's are accurate They're on point I'm not I am busy doing some of the other videos. Yeah, only one of us so so, you know Uh, it's it's hard sometimes to get every video out there that everybody wants Oh, yeah, like I've never done a video on x x What is it x gp and yeah The virtualization stuff. I don't have it. I don't know it at all I was like stick with stick with what you're good at. Yeah, it's hard with like I just recently got into 3d printing I've also recently got into home assistant, you know, I'll tweet about things like that people like Oh, when are you gonna do a home assistant video? I'm like, there's so many people out there That do it so much better than I could do it because I'm a new about it. I'm just learning myself, you know Um, so, you know, we just stick to we stick to what we know Yeah, there's in because when you're good at it It's easier to make a video on it too because I'm just fluid I know the answer to a lot of these questions because I'm doing it from a consulting standpoint I'm doing it some videos and I'm well xcp ng and some of the other stuff We're actively using even in my office. So there's a lot of that on there I will already said node red. Yeah, that's another whole thing of people. I do some node red videos It's like, oh man. I gotta first. I gotta learn it And I gotta learn it good enough to teach it, you know, I mean and it's like, yeah Oh, yeah, you're never as wrong as when you're wrong on a youtube video Oh, you're sure if you you don't you get we get hate comments on accurate videos Well, it's either hate comments or you should have done xyz Yeah, or you should have done this you should have done this way And there's all the opinions that fly around out there on there Um, someone said would you consider starting a wireless whispering your neighborhood? And for me the answer is no because as I mentioned earlier, there's cheap internet everywhere here in detroit So, um, I couldn't do it competitively at all Uh Wisps are usually out of a need for internet not necessarily because we don't like Comcast as much as Comcast Is an unpopular company. The other side of it is, uh, when you think about the speed delivery of a whisk the infrastructure Um, we have a local's municipality because of the ruralness of it. They wanted to put one in They started adding up what a tower cost. They're like, oh, I'm like, yeah So it's not cheap. Nope. It's not a sure you can share with your neighbors You could split your internet share your neighbors with a couple point to points I'm not going to call you a whisk, but I'm going to call you cool. You got something done. You shared with your neighbor But um, actually doing it setting up the billing setting up as a business, um, there's a lot that goes into it and The return on it a few people even what my as I mentioned my dad has a whisk They're not cheap because the service delivery costs. They have a mega tower because it's a very it's not flat um, or my dad is and so they have the you know Build infrastructure up to the biggest hill and then put a big tower on there And then in some cases build towers elsewhere. So it's not it takes a lot There's the recouping of the cost is hard. So and there's also, um, there are a number of like government grants that you can get for rural broadband and rural wireless but those grants are I wouldn't say they're difficult to get but there's a lot of hoops that you have to jump through when you get the grant um, they have a lot of stipulations like You have to provide Because we looked at this for for an area in Oregon The grant was you had to provide free wireless isp services to any of the Local like sort of municipality services like the fire department and the police department Those had to be free. You also had to provide a certain size structure where you provide free public internet For the area like uh, like basically you had to build a small shack with a number of computers in there that the general public could go and use for free uh on top of like the the Requirements to get the grant had to be like there can be like no other option in the area. It's like so even if there's like DSL down the main road, but only down the main road. You might not qualify for the grant So there's a there's just so much to it even above and beyond the actual equipment and knowledge uh networking knowledge that you have to have There's a lot of red tape. Yeah, it's it's uh, it's no small venture to take on so No, we'll leave you with that. So we went to two hours. I think that's adequate Longer than we expected so Oh, we could talk forever man. We could talk forever. I think top I remember in real quick story when tom and I met up in pittsburgh We went out for beers after a day of uh hanging out and you know We're setting up this wireless at this racetrack And I feel like you and I were just sitting there drinking beers and talking to each other like yapp yapp yapp yapp yapp and the other people in the party were just like They're ready to go home and go to bed. Can we leave? It's like one o'clock in the morning and tom and I were like So much, you know, we've both been working in tech like forever. So yeah And we always get to work on interesting projects and it's unfortunate As chris said there's nda sometimes so we can't talk here about some of the projects we do But boy, they make for a great conversation. I really wish we could share with the crowd Yeah, absolutely Thanks again for having me on I appreciate it and um Yeah, I gotta do more live streams. That's my problem. I just never sit down and do it. Yeah, it's uh I like doing it and I just I I committed myself to thursdays and here we are. Um, this was episode 273 Yeah, it's smart I don't know. I've just been doing it so long. I don't I you know, even um When i've been on vacation or whatever I still just do it on thursday I've done it when i'm not around Even if I do it from my phone and do something short the goal is to just Build that consistency because people kind of expect me to do it. So sure. No, it's good stuff. Yep. All right, man. Take care everyone. Thanks