 You gotta love it, you gotta love it, you gotta love South African music. Playing right here on Bounce Nation. I go by, Filiin Jinn and this right here is... The big doctor DJ Epic. Mumeskia waichu kucha, wacha mchezo. Today we are with him in the house. You wanna ask him, is it wacha mchezo? Ma, right, right, like we always get the lyrics wrong, like for some reason. Everyone who is Kenya, who knows Wahili, he has, what have they said? Why should you kucha? Why should you kucha? Why did you kucha? Wacha mchezo. Wacha mchezo. What does that mean? We're actually saying wacha mchezo. I'm gonna say wacha mchezo, which means stop playing games. So we have our own translation. Let's do it. And it sounds that way, completely enshamless. From today, you're gonna be here in wacha mchezo. I'm gonna call it wacha mchezo. Wacha mchezo. Why did you kucha? Which means why did you come? We have our own translation. Alright, for those who are watching and wondering what is happening, this is a DJ and a musician all the way from South Africa with all him the musical genius himself. He goes by DJ back. Let's give up for DJ back. Thank you for having me. No, that's not my first time. Alright, so how are you loving Kenya? What do you love most about Kenya? Oh, the scenery. The scenery is beautiful. I love the green. I love the tall buildings. Everything is just beautiful. But tall buildings, you have that also. Of course. I love seeing it in Africa too. You see another side of Africa that you never get to see on TV because they always show the dingy places in Kenya. Yeah, 100%. That's really good. What have you sampled so far? You forgot. I've been eating fast food so long but I want to get into the traditional side. They need to take you to some places. You have to sampled them. You have to have nyamachoma. I'm looking forward to that. There's so many. I hope they're listening. I hope they're noting them down. You have to have smocha by the way. Just ask them to take you to a nice street food. Go for street food but at a nice place. Find a place where they cook. It's clean. Because if it's not... It's nice. I don't want to... Right. You're here because you are on African tour. You are carrying on tour. Tell us about that. What is that all about? I've just been getting a lot of requests from different countries wanting me to perform. I was waiting for the right time to actually do them. My African tour is me just giving back to the people that have been supporting my music since the start. Giving them the best performance and the best version of myself. You've worked with some very big names especially when it comes to African music. Of course. You've made a video with DJ Maporisa. Especially Soweto. One of my favorites. That's your jam. That is my jam. I was jamming to that. It was a while back. But it's still a hit. It's one of those timeless hits. They paved the way for... Let's say Amapiano. They did. Chukucha was crazy. It's just a bit of tricking here and there. You're the original OGs. Of course, bro. We have to represent. I know. Tell us about that. Having worked with such big names in the industry. How did that happen? Let's talk about Soweto because Chukucha was big but also Soweto. Tell us about that. Soweto baby, we were just chilling at the hotel. I just started making a beat and Wizkid was interested in it. He just hopped on it. We just vibed with each other. We never wrote anything. So we just freestyle the whole song. No one sat down to write. So you are the hotel. How about the studio? We travel with the studio. You travel with recording equipment. We travel with recording equipment just for conveniences like that. We are creatives. We always think about music wherever we go. When we think about something we just sit down. So that's how we work. So you were chilling. There was DJ Maporesa. DJ Maporesa and Wizkid. It's the three of us. And Davido. The one you did with Davido and Uru. Davido was in South Africa to make a song with Mafiki Zolo. Called by Oskido. Through that he met us which is Maporesa and I. And then we just got into the studio and made heads. And why did you shoot the video? It's so interesting. We see you flying out of a jet and stuff. Was that Dubai? Yeah, we shot it in Dubai. In the Dubai desert. We were there for eight days. And then we just viped and made different clips as the days went along. I love that. You've contributed a lot to different songs. But you don't get to sing in the songs but you are behind the beat. So tell us about that. Have you had a different critics talk about that? Why are you claiming the right to a song that you did not sing? Basically a lot of people that know music know that a lot goes into music making. So whether it's production or it's writing one team that makes one head, do you get what I mean? The people that don't know the credits of the song usually misconcept and say that you're not on the song. Then they have to go into the song to see this guy's name and this guy's name. We're used to that. Are you advocating for that? We've seen DJ Khaled just there last year. He released an album so people were expecting to hear Khaled sing and then he comes and he's like, where's the best music? God did and it's a whole album and they're like, okay. So it is DJ Khaled's album but it features Jay-Z and it features all these other artists and they were thinking how is it a DJ Khaled album? So maybe you can just shed some light into that so that more people understand. When it comes to that there's something called executive production which is what DJ Khaled does. DJ Khaled hears a beat from a beat maker and he goes and grabs that beat and looks for people that will fit onto the song. So he actually texts and calls those people and gets them into studio and tells them what the song should sound like and what they should do and not do. So obviously you're not going to see the part where he's telling Jay-Z to rap like this. You get what I mean or to do this So a lot of people don't see the actual executive production which is the most important part of producing a song. And also paying for more studio time 100% and being on set and different locations 100% That's what he does. He executive produces and then he puts songs together he joins the beat with the vocalist and then he releases the song. Alright, awesome. You've told me this not your first time so you've definitely seen the Kenyan nightlife being a DJ, Kenyan nightlife do we compare to South Africa and nightlife? 100% especially the vibe the vibe is very crazy we can attach it to what we do in South Africa so as I say music is a universal language whenever you hear a song we all bump our heads the same way we all go crazy in the parties the same way so I feel like I'm at home actually when I'm at nightlife Amazing, and speaking of Kenya of course we're here to advocate for we play a lot of South African music you as a DJ play Kenyan music and if you do, who are some of the artists from Kenya that you sample, you sample so far? Oh yeah, my friend Souty Soul They are on tour Mother shout out to Souty Soul, they were in Paris yesterday sold out, super amazing and I'm very keen on hearing more of Kenyan music because we don't get exposed to it that much in South Africa and other countries so the reason for me doing their African toys also to get to know the music that is outside of our country you get what I mean and just sample new music 100% I love that and you as a DJ, what's your favorite genre of music to play? Afro and piano Afro and piano Afro and piano 100% I love piano It's crazy You see it I'm going to increase the craziness I was thinking he'll have more questions being a DJ and you being a DJ I was like okay you too I'm just going to sit here and see how you guys are I have so many questions Please go ahead You said South Africa don't listen to Kenyan music What are the policies in South Africa that make people not listen to Kenyan music or other music or Kenyan music is not making moves I would say South Africa usually they play music that trends a lot and there's been this policy that has happened of people complaining about too much American music that's been played in South Africa so they have cut it down to make it 80% South African music 80% On radio stations so they can actually grow the young artists we are fighting for the same as it's 70% and the irony is we are complaining about South African music We are not complaining about American music as it's South African music and Tanzanian music that's what is out there giving our artists but we are still advocating for it it's not it's price it's in the works I feel like the best solution is collaboration if we collaborate then we won't be able to complain about any music because it will be African music African music exactly and those time even your president he was advocating for Africans to literally have one language and they were advocating for Ki Swahili they thought Africans should have one universal language that all Africans are listening to instead of teaching English in schools they should teach Swahili instead they should teach Swahili and English what's your take on that because you have different languages we have our own language but we don't have one universal language I think it would be dope to have a language that we all understand since Swahili is not included in South Africa we have 11 official languages in South Africa so I think Swahili also the words in Swahili because there is a word that you guys say in South Africa we say you get what I mean we can hear each other I think we were just originating from the same place Sudanese guys that are they say lures came from Sudan, Denilons and then the Bantu even in Kenya we have a different subject and in different languages 100% we just came from everyone in South Africa we came from one place how long have you been a DJ actually I know that people out here wondering I was a DJ before I was an artist since 2002 2002 what okay you don't look like there are some people in studios that were not born people are counting fingers some of these people they were not born by two or two so they are like excuse me are you serious that's crazy it's amazing you've seen different artists come and go you've seen different genres come and go and you've performed a lot what has been some of your memorable venues you've performed that you will never forget one of those venues surprisingly not that I'm kissing or anything it's the blanket festival blankets and wine that's a while back okay we need to bring it back people are changing I think people have new ideas new things let's talk about why you in Kenya because I'm sure you have shows where people at home are watching you where you gonna be so for instance tomorrow where you gonna be performing at or we start tonight tonight I'm gonna be at access millionaires it's Thursday what you on a job about access if you know access then you know you know how it's going down if you know you know we cannot talk much about it then on Friday oh Friday is Gemini Gemini we go hard then it's Black Samurai on Saturday those are like really top places all the chicks are coming out if you know the chicks they do not play they do not play you'll see I was seeing this chick who was on the other day and she was like bro so me I go to Gemini and she went now on Friday and then she see like short dresses heels and cosilias me I don't fit here so you'll see it so time keeps evolving you've been lying since 202 it is 2023 tell us about different technologies you've seen maybe in terms of the players and music and that how has it changed for you I went from DJing with vinyls to PCs I have a DJ friend of mine he is vinyls vinyls to Dex so we still here to see where the technology is going to evolve to I think I'm going to be that's awesome you're in my you're in my courts you're excited you have so much knowledge that I want to know as a DJ there are so many challenges people face so for you to be able to be a worldwide brand like everyone in the world knows you would you advise a DJ like me who is in Kenya from steps that people take to blow up to be able to go on tour one is you have to be a producer that's one thing of notice so something else you have to have a niche you have to have something that draws people towards you whether it's your style of playing or it's how you interact with the crowd you can't just be a DJ that just plays music then you know good to the crowd when I say find your niche I mean find something that's going to draw people towards you so that's what I use and speaking of that how do you maintain high level of energy throughout the show you probably start playing from 11 and you have a set that goes all the way to 2, 3 a.m. and you have to you have to still have the energy how do you do that because it's not easy people think it's easy until you're there everyone wants depending on you to have a good time how do you do that the more energy that I give to the people that are listening is the more energy they give back and that just keeps me going I don't know about other DJs but that's how I feel it's all about energy if there's no energy you struggle have you had technical difficulties how do you handle that when you saw that we had a little bit of money to fix it just in time how do you handle that when you've been called to perform you go there my machine does not look like this I don't know how to how do you handle that I adapt easily if I see something with the close to 20 years that I've been in the industry I know my way around everything that I've seen in my lifetime you get what I mean if I have a technicality with the decks I can grab a mic and just perform you get what I mean get them going until the problem is fixed or if I find decks that I'm not too sure of I don't take more than 5 minutes to learn you get what I mean so you adapt very quickly and most cases I bet you also carry your own equipment so as you wind up maybe you can give us a patin shot or if you have any shout out your handles shout out to Kenya and thank you to everybody for listening to my music and supporting South African music I'm looking forward to collaborating and bringing your music to South Africa so that they can know more of this beautiful country and shout out to culture entertainment Kenya and to all the people that have brought me here man I'm very humbled and we are so glad thank you so much for coming through anytime you're in 254 you don't even have to ask you just come through so thank you so much for coming I think the DJ is going to play some more of your music but I just want to say thank you and shout out to culture man culture for bringing you through we appreciate them so much thank you so much so more music we're coming back with more shout outs you are watching Bounce Nation we still have the speed of coming up keep it here we still have two rappers so they speed then the fans decide who who is the elest alright that's coming up in a few keep it bounce nation alright let's go