 Running hot for hot chief ladies and gentlemen welcome to a brand new series called beer and I've got to thinking about this thing. I was like, you know what? It's it's good times just sipping on the cold brew and talking about relics things of outdoor adventure and whatever just life and I thought the perfect episode would be beer and Fishing reels featuring John B. Thank you very much. Cheers. So we're starting it off here with a bang Starting off with the Coors banquet. Yeah, good choice for this video for the inaugural beer and episode of course, but I got excited this reminds me of High school parties and basements. That's what this reminds me of this reminds me more of like I'm out there on the range Open steers Like tip your hat getting done. Yeah, I usually drink Coors original when I'm like on a Outdoor fishing trip or something like that heat this I feel like it's more. It's good anything below 50 degrees Exactly. We're gonna be talking about fishing reels today. John Has a plethora of reels as do I on older stuff And if you guys watch John's channel, you know that he's been dialed on a lot of J. Him reels and a lot of just really good stuff I think we're probably gonna have a lot of similar Reels unfortunately, we were just talking some of the really old ones that just kind of jumped out on us We've thrown away in a lake like yeah dusted. Don't even I there's some reels where I I Honestly have sleepless nights over because I don't know where they're at like they just disappeared I'm just like how why like where did it go this one? It's funny You chose me to do reels because I feel like that's one of the reasons why my channel kind of got reamped when I was in College sort of doing these real reviews of like JD and reels I spent a whole check whole Google adsense check, which by the way back then wasn't that much but I spent a whole check on one reel in time and I a ramen and PBJ for the rest of for real. Yeah three weeks Yeah, I bought one real and it was the sickest real or an unfortunate I traded it for another reel, but they both have good stories now, but you want to go real for reels That way yeah, man. We'll just kind of speed through over quick here guys as a side note This series has no official backdrop or studio, but right now we happen to be in John B's Tactical fishing garage, and we'll just start talking about you want to go like real for real like you I was gonna say I'll pull one of yours out. You tell me about it, and then okay, let's do that We're arguing by the way. They're in here. Oh, okay under our cool Guggen igloo cooler by the way, which it's time for a fresh eat or a refresher Yeah, I need a refresher here Just kind of a little conversation lubricant Go ahead and unwrap that guy. What's going on there? Let's hear about it. Oh, okay. So that this is a Shimano core I want to say that's like an early 2000s core. Yeah, I can actually I think it was I Think way back here. I want to say this came out in 2012. This is one. Yeah, I'm gonna put I put 10 grand with that This came out in 2012. Okay, so I would have been wrong on early 2000s, but this is one of the only reels I've ever seen that when you open up the side plate to extract the spool there is a there's actually locked in there through a tightening of There's like a wheel I've never seen that it keeps the school from coming out So this actual side plate, I know this because I've had a lot of problems This actual side plate doesn't do anything other than cover your some triple brakes and stuff like that. Sorry I don't know why I'm talking. This is your real. I just the reason why I like this one It's got a love this is one of my favorites of all time period There was a guy on fork back when I was guiding that was he was like trading some stuff I don't know. I ended up doing the trade or something for a couple of reels and this happened to be in there always known for being a really light real light spools made for casting light lures and You know, I'm not gonna say the toughest reels on the planet because everything's built to be so light But this was like the first ultra light reel that I have $40 real. Yeah, MSRP Major at the time. It's not like I purchased it. I did it in a trade So it was it was big time and this was this was big at the time six two to one gear ratio fast Six two to one MG seven two That yeah, the MG seven. Yeah, that was huge, too. That was like That was four hundred dollars. I think yeah But this was like my first really expensive real main Japan says on the bottom plate there And honestly, I kind of put it away because I've got newer cores Well, the weird thing about those reels to not to drag on is it's made out of magnesium So whenever personally, I had a met MG seven where you feel bite you feel it in the real Not salt water ready reels. They're very Yeah, you want to take that salt water, but like it being magnesium you feel it through the rod and the real and That dude, that's my favorite period. Like there's no better than that Really cool. And by the way guys, you're probably gonna see a lot of Shimano and Daiwa In this mix because in my opinion, I don't know about you John, but I think yeah, Shimano and Daiwa make the best reels I think they also made the best reels. I think they're doing an okay job now They did an insanely good job. Yes half a decade. So I am holding right now what I believe to be a Cronar of some sort. No, what is this? It's a Siddica. It's an old Siddica 200. A Siddica 200 made in Japan That's bad. That's why I said that's why I said that they used to be excellent now They're just okay. So that's a hundred and twenty dollars Here you explain you've got everything scratched out on this thing But I figured once I saw Japan it had to be because nowadays is just so you guys know when you buy a Shimano real Carotta is not even made in Japan a lot of times. It's it's I Think it's it starts at Cronar is what's made in Japan and then the rest little outsourced But back in the day they even made their lower Great reels in Japan and that means better quality lower price. Yeah Japan engineering does not like skip, right? I mean, that's kind of a Samurai ultra metallurgy. This is like the last renaissance for reels and specifically like Shimano real This is an old Siddica. You get this thing for $200 now They would probably charge you $300 for the quality of components that you get this real is an old Siddica I have I think I got I'd if you said it because I think I bought this one after the discontinued at like some little mom-paw Tackle store in Ohio and It fell off. I was fishing my grandparents like and it fell off the side-by-side and it just got dusted Yeah, it's missing it. Yeah, it's so it missed it the handle got crushed So I took a handle off of an old diode Acceler which was like a $70 reel that had also got dusted internally put it on there Worked for a little bit then somehow this came off I don't even really know one of the knobs came off But even those old diode acceleros, which again weren't necessarily like cream of the crop They were made really well like bearings in the knobs like just super awesome reels and you could call this a Frankenstein Frankenstein stuff and the reason why I've got all the branding scratch out there is because I was at the time parting ways with Shimano, and I was angsty and I There was no bad blood. I just was like, you know I just didn't want to promote a company that this didn't necessarily want to help me out But they are good people and they obviously make really good reels and can't deny that can't deny that but I mean centrifugal braking like dude What series was that was that those with there's an easy it was eat. Yes, okay green karate was this was basically Last yeah, you could get a karate but for cheaper right and it was the Seneca That was basically yeah, and that's a great reel and like dude Aluminum frame you could run this over with your diesel truck, and it would probably so be fine So I saw that in the series as well, which if you don't want to pull another one of those Okay, yeah, I was gonna say out. So I'm really interested in this actually I saw this Okay, it was like the zillion. I was gonna say this is a zillion, isn't it? This is a dyowa zillion right here when I started fishing professional tournaments and getting Serious about guiding fishing tournaments and all that I decided to purchase some nice Boogie, that's very nice. I want to say like this was an upper 300 Level at the time to seven to eighty. Yeah, still to this day probably one of the most solid like tank built reels I've ever seen these things are just about bulletproof. They're heavy but dyowa and Shimano just over the years of competing against each other made some awesome stuff on the higher end. Yeah, and this this zillion Was in hops to there's still perfectly fine dude everything I mean, I have put these things through the ringer. You see there's no paint on the front I've I don't even think I've ever clean this thing. Yeah, that's how they were made though I never I never I've literally never clean any of my old Shimano's never So you're happy with that real? I was very happy with this reel. I never had one That was one really I always wanted and I never got a chance to even use I never even use one of those this one right here I can literally give my my son or daughter I've really never Remember being at like Bass Pro shop and asking if I could like and then the worst part about it was I had to give it back Like I just try you out and feeling like sorry son one day. Yeah Good on battery also to made in Japan. Yeah, so I would say any Reel that you see that has been Japan It's it's back when instead of die. Oh, it was team die one. Do you remember that? It wasn't even die was it was TD his team die one. We have a left-handed that one's got history Okay, I'm a tanium MG DC so another magnesium same reel basically like a core. Yeah, it's a core So this was so it's so funny like Weirdest transition I ever saw. Oh, it's beautiful. It's like that pearl like that's what I'm like I want like a sports car be painted. Yeah little in a reel So I bought one of these reels. I think it was when I was in college was like my first year at college It was a righty. It was a DCM titanium DC MG seven which meant seven one and I loved it so much. I then Saved a little more. I got a left-handed reel for some reason they at the time They're discontinued they've been around for a minute, but it was weird is like this is the same exact reel as what you have there Only it's got a DC chip in it and back then you couldn't get DC Reels unless they were shipped from Japan Mm-hmm or from some overseas, you know, like Australia or something like that So this was like so like nobody had stuff like this or if they did It was like super uncommon and now there's SLX DC's Toronto DC. So this was super special This one takers left-handed to six point two to one. I use this for cranking It's like if Versace made a reel it would look exactly like this like a pearl paint job It's light six something six point seven ounces. It's a dainty. It's a fragile kind of dainty reel The funny thing about this particular one you picked is this handle right here It looks after market. It is after market. It was it's a ZP again. Japanese. It's a ZPI carbon fiber handle They used to sell these things and they still do for like a hundred and fifty dollars like the handle itself So there was this guy that I don't even know his name really who's he was a dude who said hey If you promote these handles, I'll give you a few and I was like a kid He said I'll give you these handles if you promote them. I'm like that So he gave me a few of these EPI handles after a while. I kind of realized like I've got all these expensive reels I don't need them. So I'm just gonna start auction off I had like a like a just a I don't want to say it's like a peric moment I just don't need any of this stuff like I don't need like expensive reels. I want to relics dumb down. Yeah, so I Sold a lot of my old stuff and I was doing it an auction for charity and I like auctioned off some of these reels I remember that yeah, yeah, I want a couple of them went up above like $9,000 they weren't legitimate bidders which sucked. It was super embarrassing weird scenario But this is one of the last reels from that kind of John B. Well, I like this unique Yeah, and I don't use it and it's a great reel, but I just I don't real lefty that much anymore It's like in the Cheval or someone you need exhaust or engine, you know exactly But it also sits in your garage and it collects dust because it's not practical. It's got stories. Yeah, that's why we're doing this Yeah, exactly what this is way No, they actually do I have one do they it is it is it is like peanuts compared to that reel So I like the zillion and then I ended up picking up this reel because it was a little bit lower price But still made in Japan I even put red braid on it and this was like my frog rashi. Yeah, it's still on that zillion frame Just I don't think it has the exact same components. There's probably a little bit more internal upgrades on on the zillion We go We go spicy and they even made it red But yeah, it has the exact same Set up as as the zillion But this is one of the one of the reels I use when I was guiding on fork and you know tournament fishing and I don't even I put it away at some point. It still looks like it's Or the zillion that they all seem like they work real feels really really good honestly That was way Okay, that one's interesting. Okay So, yeah, let's talk about not a whole lot of history on this other than I think it's more his more regret more regret and less history It's like a 1920s reel. It looks old wasn't it? Yeah, so this is round face again super into the JDM reels things of that nature says right there made in Japan. It's a Monoblock especially or special not especially a monoblock especially special which is It's like a it's a dyowa, but it's a it's like if megabass came along and said hey We want to use your technology and our engineering and our Britain or you know like our components and make this ultimate reel This is a thousand dollar reel So I bought this for a video just for the title saying gotcha I'm fishing with it that like a thousand dollar reel gotcha But I know what that monoblock is meaning. Yeah, because that is cut from one one single Yeah, exactly, then that's what that is so expensive and it's uh, it's Edo engineered and Edo I think is I forget his full name something Edo, but he owns and basically is like the he's like the Henry Ford of Megabass and Always one of the one of what I've always wanted one of these reels until I finally got one and they are just like Extremely impractical. Yeah, could you imagine this? Yeah, this is like a six three to something and then this reel is not that old Like this is not like very Old real it looks old, but it's not and I used it in a few videos. It's like a Sherlock Holmes. It's a centerpiece It's like what is it called like steampunk almost? Yeah. Yeah, so it I Caught a few fish in this and call it a day. It's very sad. I didn't know but it looks like you beat it up, too I'll just you actually That's a showpiece. Oh my god. Oh, I'm here. Oh my Don't know about that. Acceler is that a seller? Yeah, okay. Yeah, let's do an Acceler when I started fishing pretty seriously I Got in I didn't have a nice spinning reel I just thought spinning reels were basically coffee grinders and there was no use for them Yeah, except when I started guiding and I realized people couldn't like always fish with bait casters And then I started realizing they will literally break if there are a piece of crap. Yeah, Diana and Shimano make Incredible spinning right guide client ready. Yeah shit, you know like not this one I don't know what kind of braid is on here. This is what I don't know It looks like a tan braid. I seriously think I took that off a reel from lake for guiding and never used it again I think it's locked up. Is it real? Yeah, sure Okay, this thing's minty. The thing is real may be made in China, but like it's that golden arrow fish. Oh, yeah no, not not that the China makes some good reels, too. This is over a decade old Yeah, the answer verse is kind of out, but this is just one of those ones I picked up I had heard that And then Absolutely is true, but the Xceler I just don't think is top-notch doesn't excel as hard as it its name implies. No But honestly a really good spinning reel can change the game like for your finesse game It can change it and I didn't even realize that until like I this was like a really nice reel for me Yeah at the time and then I got into some more like high-end spinning reels, but at the time This was it. Yeah, I've got a lot of diowas. I know I just realized that you picked out a lot of diowas I pick up because I was so into diowas back then and then I later realized that There was moments were Shimano without Trump diowas and it was on reels like the core and I like the competition though It keeps things spicy. So here is a diowas. There's a diowas Ws fat handle McGee. Yeah, what do you got going on there? This is actually a diowas Coastal it's a saltwater reel and I bought this last year. It's not a very old reel This doesn't have a ton of history, but it's important to me because this is like the first year that I started using when I realized that in Texas 25-pound test Floor carbon thing is a thing. Yeah, I grew up my whole life using nothing more than honestly 17-pound test Yeah, like period because I grew up in Illinois and once I moved down here and started flipping heavy buck buck brush And fishing gnarly rock piles for fish that are north of you know, five six seven pounds It's like that's a thing. So this reel's got a Ridiculous amount of line capacity if I were to strip this all the way down You've got one of those really, you know those like really skinny spools almost this thing was meant and it's I mean you felt That's like eight ounces like it's all light reels Seven three to one in it, you know again if you're in the looks it's pretty real I think it's gorgeous. It sounds like a horse getting hit by a semi let me cast it Yeah, it's it's not good, but it I love this real and it's a it's a dial. So that's me Yeah, but how good is it look next to that fly go to oh, I got another one for you. Oh, here's another blue reel So we'll go back-to-back blue reels. I know you've picked out every diwa in the bunch That one I want to ask you does it still work? No, it well the actual real function does work, but the Vento Vento. So the reason I got this Is because weird made Korea that says so this is a sub a sub factory but Wacky grids back when for the idea is grass the idea is there dude Okay, so what what you would do with this real y'all is it this this thing would come up and you would literally just do this Right here like you would never use with your thumb And when it's cold you just put your hand in your nice toasty pocket And you just do one of these right here now the clutch is like broken on it now But you would literally just do that and it would pop up on just a good idea Terrible design terrible design couldn't come through with the design But I literally would have customers and put a wacky right on I was like just hit this little yeah That's all you got to do just push the start It gives you a little pump and that's all you have to do and you know the real one it held up It was just that that clutch just broke so you know cool fun design, but execution I had a just I had they made a so the viento was like the grandfather, but really not a very good grandfather So I think it was that they had a real called the mat die with a magazine or a cellar magazine or something like that and I still have one and it still works Still working. Yeah, it's still working the torque button the sinker torque buttons And I feel like 300 years from now that'll be like a relic Because that was pretty ambitious back then that's like almost as ambitious as like put in the DC chip digital chip or Digital control chip and like a real you got one over here. Yeah, we got there That's the last one. Wow. Do you see those? Cadillac, I've never fished one of these that thing looks spaceship like it is I think the reason why this this reel is here now is because some sort of alien life form touchdown Few years ago And gave us the technology gave us the technology. This is the same technology that sent new arms strong to the moon That's incredible. Is that an ontaris? It is it's an ontaris. It's called a So they call it ontaris md which stands stands for monster drive. Is that straight jdm? Or like this is hand forged by like The owner yeah, like samurais the owner of shimano himself So this is like this was at the time still is to this day like this at the time was like the cream of the crop So like dc reels before You know like take for example like this this was the dc reel back then small spool 100 size spool Not very good drag kind of dusty couldn't use these in salt water Just the first few times you use the salt water. It would just corrode fault of bits This was the first ever dc reel that you could use in salt water and that I think had 150 Wow, no even bigger. I think it was like a 200 size 150 size or 175 size spool. I bought this for my How much? Oh my god, dude 700. Yeah 700 Yeah, but it's I mean if you're if you're gonna buy one reel and rely on that reel for the rest of your life I've had so many questions asking if you could buy one reel for the rest of your life What would you buy so that it would be that one reel you could rely on like It'd be like your your diesel truck Right, and it's in enteris dc or not enteris is I've seen the last like 15 years I would I would concur with that because I have I have some So you guys watching if I don't have any my new reels in here my new reels are in my boat, but I have Uh, non-tarris or two. Yeah, I don't even know if I've cleaned them You don't need to I bought it for peacock bass fishing in it absolutely Use it for peacock bass. Oh, dude. It stopped fish. It stopped serious. It stopped 15 16 pound So it's got absurd drag like upper 20s. Yeah 20s. I mean Here, let's do that. That's awesome Just try It's ridiculous dude. Yeah. Yeah, it's very spaceship technology. I know wow and it's different. It's dc I think when I went to the amazon I took my collet dc Yeah, which is another one of those same concept essentially lifetime type deals. It's okay. It's it's it's it's an old catalac That's what you know, like you were saying earlier. It's a little shabby So I don't I don't have any of those reels with me guys. I got most of my old reels So let's pick out some old juices this one specifically because this is one of my favorite reels Yeah, so Back in the day. This is the d series from shimano. This thing is literally a tank. It is I think probably the It's a panther. It's probably the heaviest reel. They made a bulky Wide I almost want to say bigger than the original like green carato that build them, you know on the map famous I love these side plate Like the side plate where you just reverse engine like quarter click it that pops You know i'm saying like that that's beautiful. Why did they I don't know Shimano What are you doing? Why okay the other day we were fishing Yeah And and one of my $400 aldebarons or whatever. I wasn't even trying to open that, you know, right? Like I was like literally just I I grabbed the reel and then I just all of a sudden I watched your side plate your $4 reel just go in the water just balls in the water But that that was a reel that was probably what six or seven years old like newer than that one Yeah, absolutely. This this reel is really old. It has that that side plate when when when I saw that when when you could just click that off and um, you know, it's just super easy to connect disconnect just breaks to Huge ball. I mean you could probably put a thousand hearts on here. It feels like it's a giant Uh giant spool and at the time this this is the d8. This is the high gear ratio. It's a seven to one DSV as I was yeah, high gear ratio that seven to one of the time was high gear ratio, but Uh, I could give this thing a little loop spool it up right now and it would just it would just be fine That's one of the reels. I have nightmares about I lost it and I don't know where it's at and I when I saw it in your box It's heavy. It's an anchor if you lose your anchor you can use your Shimano DSV for you You could for drift soccer and anchor or something like that things it gives you no sensitivity on your ride Like it is very it's clunky. It's meant for bash. It's a perfect texas reel Honestly, it's meant for bashing heads And I'm sure you mean 40 pound bags are caught with that reel head. That's a lot So I think we're I think we're out on yours. It's just explore a couple more of Of mine because I've got You want to do some originals? Okay, so let's go way retro. Okay, purely. This is not yours. Or is it? So I want to okay and one of these is the The first reel let's pick the one that's got the most history like what's that? Okay, so I have two here. I have two bannums right here. Oh, they're both bannums These are like 80s bannums. Yeah, I was gonna say those are old old. This is pre Uh, karate. This was my dad's reel This was like his big purchase on his boat is terry basbo that he had he passed this Onto me. I mean he's still living today But he passed this on to me when I started bass fishing like going around the ponds Is like here you're telling me probably a fiberglass rod on the thing. Yeah, um It gave this to the right of passage though having your dad and fishes pass on dude amazing. Uh, it's uh, it says design port for professionals engineered bantamag sg Dude, this thing is probably five to three one gear ratio. It is so slow the anti reverse Yeah, no, it's made in japan the anti reverse on it. It's terrible Uh, it's absolutely terrible like if you cast that thing out I used to stand on the shores of lake great vine and cast out a one ounce Slab spoon for white bass magnetic thing that's what when I was in junior high in high school And I would cast you back then it was rough. Oh, yeah It was rough it the real handle would literally slap back on your fingers the anti reverse on it Is that bad? But that was my first, um Yes, you would call it a karate experience, but the bantam the click is Really smooth still right. Yeah, like it's it's like it's like turning the ac up to on like a like a Mercedes Benz Like it's really Smooth again made in japan like every real I've ever picked up Made in japan really solid everything steel still works things you can still I was gonna say you can still use that You can still use this but you would be you would be disappointed you'd be disappointed But you can still use it. I love the spool release too. It's like this big like yeah big I can do that when it's cold outside like just I'll push it down and then the real handle is like 32 inches. Oh, it's right. So I okay I know this video is dragging on right now. I literally have more wheels than we Can't even talk about but I do just want Let's let's pull out one last one. Yeah Okay, I gotta find one on I gotta find one that's meaningful You'll appreciate it. Okay. This is the reel that I've literally I just relied on like if I had a go-to Lure I if I had a tournament and there was one tactic that I was like, okay, this is I'm dialed on this I picked up this reel and it was The kerato Bantam super free. Yeah. Look at the paint Destruction that was a super free spool spool from Shimano. I mean, that's the kerato that like put Shimano on the map I think I guess it was the first Like oh the drags heavy the drags heavy Uh, uh, the the side plate does fully disconnect the keratos Yeah, I think uh, I don't know if all of them. Yeah, they all they all the keratos did that. Yeah, this this is a trifical six Uh, the six pin. Yeah, it's a trifical breaks. This is one, but Am I missing one? Yeah, I'm not. That's not that that's not that bad for a real of how much has been used But this this reel Was built so well This was this is seriously one of the most sold outdoor items Ever besides the Coleman lantern The kerato was the kerato. I think is number two For the most sold outdoor item ever this series and what series would that be would that be a No, see the reason why it would have been b, but I think the reason why this is the first crawl is because it's It's got them. It's got cu 200 bsf. I think so that's a b I don't think I don't think there was anything before the b. I don't think I don't know I don't know this was the first throttle. Okay, so was there a real quick. Look at that Oh, dude, this was this is one of those reels where you pick it up on the counter And you and you and you spin the spool and you press the release and that thing just goes And it just blew people's minds so the super free Um, that was my first big purchase as a young adult And I used that on tournaments for a long long and you still probably go literally still could It's such a slow gear ratio and the anti-reverse isn't as good as as today's reels, but that is wicked If you guys are wondering where we draw inspiration from for fishing reels, um, you know, we're in the fishing industry now And you know, I we have the opportunity to build fishing reels here in the future This is where me and john are drawing. You're drawing our inspiration The rap has been using reels and just fishing your period longer than I have in general, but like I used to dude. I used to lose my mind over here. I was like for no reason to looking back. It was like so goofy But it was also like it's what kept me going. It's what kept me interested in it. Like I'd pick up reels I'd mess with reels. I'd build I used to tear apart reels and then build them back up I used to take like die with strike forces and I used to take them all apart and see if we put it back together Like this is what I love. I love gear and it's it's just an appendix of the sport that makes it interesting Especially growing up in Illinois when you couldn't You know open water fish for basically four months. Oh, yeah, I used to walk into my room Sharpening hooks like polishing off my I'd just to clean my rods like with wind decks and stuff But this was cool, man. Thank you for me on this show. I'm excited to see what the next one's all about and um Yeah, man cherry shirt gear It's uh, it's funny how a lot of these these like a lot of these pieces of harbor even though they're just Tangible objects they hold sentimental value, especially for me And I know after watching you talk about some of these reels. It's definitely it's really cool Don't throw away your old gear No, if you're using fishing reels rods now hang on to them because give them away if you're gonna get rid of them Yeah, give give them to your cousin people that are using your sister, you know But people that are that will appreciate them, but man a lot of a lot of cool stories Can't think about better gas to have on the first one of beer and beer fishing reels Cheers Awesome, can't wait to be on the next one So let us know in the comments what you guys want to see next for beer and And We will continue the series Very nice my friend. Thank you. Catch you on the next one. 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