 Dr. Leap, it's nice to meet you too. It's a great pleasure having you here. Thank you. Mr. Sainura is a company based in Germany and they make materials for OLEDs. Could you tell us more about what makes you different from the OLEDs? Yeah, sure. We are developing radium-free OLED materials. These materials show the TADF mechanism, which means that they have the delayed fluorescence as a mission principle. And this differs to conventionally used materials like phosphorous and materials. So why is there a need to replace radium? Why do it? It works well. Because our material is based on copper, which is more abundant than radium. So radium is a really rare metal. Okay. So yeah, I think abundance is the key factor. So you think that in the long term your materials will become more cost-effective because there will be less radium in the world. So this is an advantage of our material that it's more available. But at the end of the market we will define the price, I think. So I cannot give you guarantee that this will be a cheap answer to all the... But in terms of performance, how do you compare what is already out there on the market? For example, our green emitting device. Oh, I can show you some slides. Wait, I will just have to search. This is our racket device, for example. This is our racket device which has been built at the University of Florida at Professor Frankie Soll's group, our collaboration partner. And it's just a really simple device to take architecture and it just performs the same way like phosphorous and materials do. So there's no lack of efficiency. What about lifetime? People always ask me questions about the lifetime of the materials. Yeah, lifetime becomes important if a material should get into devices. So since this is a solution-processed material or material designed for solution processing there is a gap compared to vacuum-processed materials. Thus we have to work on it to bring it to a more stable level. And how far along are you in terms of commercializing your products? We are recruiting many people these days. So at the moment our stage is that we give away samples for testing also for potential customers later on. So we will receive their answers and there are new requirements and we try to adopt this and we are developing together with the partners from industry. But do you plan on manufacturing in volume or are you looking for a partner for scaling up? I cannot give a detailed answer to this question. Both opportunities are possible, so it depends. And how is the show been so far for you? It was great interest for us this morning. So I was quite busy with my colleague who was talking all the time and I didn't have the time to go around so hopefully I will do it later on. Very good. Thank you again. It's great to have you here. Thanks very much. Thanks for the interview. Thank you.