 You might need to think song for your shit. Don't get out Jack thriller calm we creep in snoop dog to the left jack thriller to the right Jack thriller calm do it all night hit the website hit us up real quick if you're trying to get hooked up with a bad super Come on man, let's do it man. Hey yo today on new Jack thriller city, man I got one of the kings of DC comedy that DC Man you didn't see them on comedy. Hi, you didn't see them in baps Man, you didn't see them on how to be a player You didn't see them on four minutes and now you seen them on my show you you you didn't see them on ps panic Come on all day man. This is one of my favorite podcast in the world. Man. This is my player partner man my friend But I'm gonna be calling my comfort done man cuz you know I'm saying I can go tell him some things Yeah, I keep it to itself. Of course. I'm saying tell me his experiences and everything and tell me the right thing I ain't you know I'm saying he teach me how to stunt Oh, he one of the first people that I had ever met in comedy. You know I'm saying that oh, I I Can't even front you know, I got a I got I got starstruck. I got starstruck. I got starstruck I can't make sense that we even we really even but it's I can't even believe that he be calling me and talking to me like he know me. I'm a charitable individual Y'all give it up for Pierre Let me tell you something right now. I appreciate Stuff you see you said you see me on if I play my cars, right? You'll see me on Chrissy DJs in the land man DJ which is great DJ I am somebody Let's get it. Let's get it man. Yeah. What's up? What first of all? I'm proud of you brother on some real shit man. Look at this production brother You know I'm saying you came to my show when my show was small you supported it man You said some of my show I'll never forget. So I have my show here's panic room it was in its infancy stage in the beginning and You came on the show and you sat there and you said something I was like damn you said P I'm probably only here because you ain't got no other guests And it hit me in the core because I was like this nigga know the real Because it was no more guests that we knew you came through cuz I had no one else to get but I appreciate because you was there So I appreciate you being there and now I'm here Hey, I was just moving back home. Okay to Atlanta and you know, and I Feel like I feel like Oprah Winfrey. Okay off of a color purple. Oh, really? Yeah when I see you missy I knew there was a gun there was and I knew that you know everything was gonna be all right cuz I'm Yeah, I'm home now miss Sophia home. Come on now miss Sophia home And it just because it was a big deal to be on your show, so man, I appreciate you coming brother for real I appreciate it. I love you brother I've seen you for so many years doing grinding in the comedy clubs out here in Atlanta. I remember you came out here You know just doing you know doing you and then you went to this is 50 I was like doing the damn fizzle man And then you came back home and you came on my show and you got your own show You got more people in your room. I got my whole damn production and shit I got four people in my whole room and one of them is me Don't just a boy. You got real cameras and shit. Okay, then the real joints. I'm a little crystal clear You see my desk though, bro, come on now with the LED lights You see the LED lights around the room now You got you got your own car when you got your picture of your face on the car I didn't want to step on your face man. I had to walk around the whole damn room No, I can't do that bro Much respect. Yeah, you see I you see I don't know if you know this beer, okay But I'm a really big Michael Jackson fan really. Yeah, I couldn't have guessed Yeah, really really really big Michael Jackson. Okay, you know, I don't like I don't know if you got what I was trying to paint The picture, you know when I when I dress my mannequin up right here. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Yeah, this is but this is Mike Even on the floor right there. That's the off-the-wall Cover that's me on the okay. Why I put new Jack thriller city. I saw it. I saw it I would the boat and you see it. Yeah, okay So, you know the whole reason why I even name the show new Jack thriller city is Because I went to New York and what not and I came back home And so it's a new city because I'm here now all the people that surround me that made me They're cultivated Jack thriller or a honey buns as I used to be I remember them days. Yeah I remember them. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this is what it's all about This is this is the core of the past person in the future. Just coming together. You know See, I ain't ain't advanced as you bro like like I like I don't I don't have I don't have any games Are you ain't right? I ain't gonna say immense and stuff like that. Yeah, we spend wheels and guess yet Yeah, you got you got a lot of cool little things on your show, man You do too, you know, you got the news Thank you for being here, bro. Yeah Yes, you do. Yeah, I'm here for one of my strong points. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, so you let's start from the beginning Man, all right. All right now, you know, I remember the first time I ever seen you and it was definitely on deaf comedy jam Mm-hmm. And you know one of the jokes that definitely stood out for me I I can't I can't ever forget this because it's it tickles me to this day. Yes, man Yo, you when you got shot you said spread these bullets equally Mm-hmm. Is that a true story? You really got shot before I got shot three times at the same time I'll make the story quick me my boys was hanging out and we said one of my boys used to work at a place called Jean West That's merry-go-round for them old heads They know I'm Tom out and he's to work there and we just ice is still the same shit He's they still me my size larger. So I go in there when he's a manager I take the stuff that I take what is important to the story. So you have a light skinned. I'll be sure looking guy I was I was like skinned by look more like special aid at the time So we had I'll be showing special aid hanging out old school here. No, I'm Tom So one night I had this we had the same outfit on with three of three or four other boys And we were going and we were going by McDonald's we parked parked in McDonald's parking lot was going in there messing around See some girls at McDonald's and going across street to a place called Roy Rogers old school for those who know on the way coming back You know how you have the drive-thru in the car right there You know I kind of walk around I got a little gate that you got a walk kind of rounds They don't get hit by car. Well some guys almost hit us. We're like, oh, what the fuck This was up they pulled out into the parking area and started wolfing there were Jamaicans So I hear I understand half the shit they were saying and shit, you know, I'm saying but it was what it was This is you know, I'm 80s and shit, right? So we wanted to fight them they've stalling the cars left but three of them stay back Actually, they wanted to fight then I'm in trying to get in the car because I see dude didn't want to fight We really was taller. I didn't know you're stalling also I see some guys come over the street come across street and Dude said burn them and I ain't you know, I'm between some car my boy Yeah, burn them. I thought whatever Jamaican say burn them on and I heard pop pop and I It's not like a starter pistol because I never heard a real gun. You know, you know the movies like Real gun on sign there sorry fireworks pap pap pap So I thought they had a starter pistol until when my boys said oh shit and got hit and pushed me And then we all just started running, you know the friendship break up around that time You know I'm saying maybe hardcore and cool. I love you man But when that gun start firing people just start running I tried to run back into the McDonald's the nigga owner locked the door It was like no nigga drive through what you want to go through and shit I'm like motherfuckers. I'm trying to run around because they do just shoot pop pop people jump over cars and shit It was crazy and I'm running back and he first he shot me in the leg I'm running then he's then he I'm running he shot me in the back I'm like goddamn and felt like a stun gun, you know like electricity Fuck and I'm running he shot me in the hand and my hand popped up and I saw his blood meat She doesn't goddamn cuz you know, I'm dumb enough to think back in the days You just might shoot you can duck and shit, you know, you know, that's what I saw in the movies Ain't no all you hit pop you know You get hit my so by the time about a third shot my saw that meat there my insides won't turn around say bro Okay, man, I ain't the only one out here now, you know, I got a couple friends They've been shot to my never-nigger hiding behind that car right there No disrespect, but don't waste them all on me. I get that you don't like me No more need three is enough. Okay, you're a threes company threes enough I won't run in there. You know, it was what it was and shit And I guess, you know, he must have and and ran and stuff like that. And that's how I got shot three times Damn, man. How old was you? 20 What did your mama say? She wasn't there. So she wouldn't say much but But when I but I remember I bought a pair new bounce. I'm from the East Coast new bounces big big shoe And I bought this is back in 80 What is 87 88 something like that? I had um, it was 105 dollars. That's expensive back in them days. Yes. Oh, yeah It's expensive in these days. Oh, okay You ballings, okay, bro I will we'll rebound classics and they for 42 dollars because you want to now because you have to easy with that bullshit, okay, so So happen what I remember I remember I was in they took my shoe off me I get the hospital whatever after I come out the hospital, you know, they get your shit back I need them shoes. I run that one shoe back man had blood on it and shit I'll run that shoe back bro shit I need that shoe, you know, and I had one with a little slight blood on it and one not, you know But they were burgundy gray and burgundy so you couldn't really tell the blood spots So, yeah, that's how I realized with my shoes. I wanted that shoe back And so did you move Well, I always be telling me when you get shot, man, you pull the move I don't live in McDonald's nigga shit From McDonald's that I was got shot. I lived another place. I know I knew I didn't I'm saying one final who they were I was reading a book one time about a group called the shower posse. Yeah. Yes, and they shower posse shower Okay, there you go. Got shot by the shower. Well, I deduced it because What I found out was Jamaican groups back then gang members if they're in the same city two different ones They'll kill each other off like one person got to go one group got you can't be the same people can't be in like Riverdale You know, you know two Jamaica groups can't be in Riverdale one time. They got moved to another city Yeah, well about five miles away from where I got shot at about three months later I'm reading the book. I remember when this happened five people got killed in his apartment complex lands down village apartment complex everybody from DC DMV know I'm talking about and They I was reading the book the shower posse book and the guy killed them five people there So they would you make it part of the shower posse. It's about a five mile radius the same city So it had to be you know, because we don't have Jamaican We didn't have Jamaican's in my area but at a time and they would you make it so I deduced that the person five Three months later who killed all five people were part of the shower posse So it must have been part of the same group. So I deduced it came to the conclusion I don't know if you know what deduce means but coming to conclusion that They shot, you know probably shot posse shot me and I have no beef with a shower posse She didn't get him at that day You know you forgave them that day. Well, he had a good look Word God, so it was window no boys in the hood shit. Well, he was like yo, yo dough Let's go get these niggas. No, no, no them was more niggas than me It's funny because my friends all people say yo man You was gangsta nigga you gangsta. I know nigga the nigga shot me was gangsta. I'm nigga running the word in front I wouldn't know gangsta Who now come on guys got shot my crew no one died though. Okay shot the arms. I took the three Do you know what the the origin of this? The shooting was always it do you feel like talking nigga? I'm just walking out the Going past the drive-thru, you know sometimes you walk through the drive-thru out the drive-thru for cars coming You come out that little door it might hit you got to walk around a little bit, you know, I'm saying it pulling off We almost hit us. So, you know, my boys was about that, you know about the shooting, but it's about that fighting There's about the shooting. So we separated between you know, what you about and so when that when that when that gunplay goes shit Get different Hey, that's what I always tell people to man. Yeah, like You never know what another nigga on Cuz everybody ain't ain't with their fighting shit. Oh, come on now Everybody's not what not with that like their their role and it's something I learned for 50 cent, too Mm-hmm, you know I'm saying he like I don't roll rage with niggas and stuff because you know Sometimes when you roll raging people with people and whatnot You're getting mad at them about something that don't have nothing to do with you That's why they roll raging and they you could be the victim of something that Is completely That has them on the edge, right? You know I'm saying and if I'm gonna snap back at somebody, it's gonna be something because it's gonna be something because I I Wanted to be in that move to make that happen. I wanted to have I wanted to have that to be a delivered A delivered move on purpose and whatnot, you know I'm saying and so you kind of like gotta let people do what they Would do what they do and what not to let them roll right, right? Well, here's a true. Here's a real thing cuz I think it's called you remember that movie crash People people's people life will crash into you right if you allow it to crash into you Or you could just keep it moving. Well, well, here's a difference here first of all hurt people hurt people Yeah, okay that I know for a fact Yeah, if you have nothing going on in your life or nothing to live for or nothing really to care about if your life is Not doing well You get it that you'll stop and entertain that bullshit But when you have a good life going on like I am so blessed I have great people around me I have things that's happening for me. You can call me a nigga a bitch ass motherfucker as long as put your hands on me I'm gonna walk away from wash out risk it for some nigga who ain't shit. Yeah, I'm gonna live I ain't no bitch at nigga touch me and it will turn the situation to what you want it to be But verbally I don't get too fucks about that and I don't care, you know, you know I'm I carry in all my stand. I can't I got two license to carry But I'm gonna pull that out man to kill another young black man I'd rather walk away from that man. Now you put your hands on me or you put your pistol out I gotta do what I want you what's got to be done But before that I got too much to lose my friends and family would be disappointed in me man If I got locked up for some bullshit, I mean, you know, I'm feeding a lot of people with my things I do you know I'm saying my production company and so forth. So I'm gonna cut it off for some of who don't care about his life Why would I do that? That's a stupid I hate what black folks my people do that shit like man, you know, they didn't pop it up Why would you do that? You got a family you got shit to lose why cuz he disrespected me fuck him Especially if you're driving I remember when I was driving ice to like nigga pull me, you know You pull out in front of me. Oh, hey, hold on pull up next to you. What the fuck man? Let you go Y'all don't know what just happened don't nobody happen to me and them know that he almost cut me off You know, I'll just pull on just keep it going. You'll never you'll see me later on that day What's up a thing's good, but I could have pulled over and got into some shit and shooting I'm trying to run each other over and shit and been in jail. What happened nigga nigga pulled over on me You almost ran me over got my spot before me letting him in my spot. What? What I'm about to pull into a pocket spot nigga jumped into it. I'm like fuck all that. What man Go on that man. Those are niggas who don't have none to win the lose You know I'm saying there's nothing going on. So I tell a young cast man or anybody let it go He's not a sucker for letting it go That's right You know the man Way more than man. You're way more than man walk away from bullshit way more than a man But yeah, we we too old to be punks. We too old to be disrespected And hopefully the people that's disrespecting or trying to punk us and you live to be I there you go There you go. You know I'm saying you a it ain't then wrong with just telling the motherfucker. Hey, you got it Yeah, there you go. You got God bless you. There you go. There you go I'm gonna stay safe. There you go. Oh, there it is and alive. Yeah, and alive. Yeah Gotta go home to my family. Yeah, um, I think I was Reading something or I seen you something way you you you got one kidney. Um, yeah, I mean My doctor, yeah, I got How we're gonna ask you for a kidney. I ain't got one to spare No, I had it what's going on how you lose your kidney, man Now it's 10 years old. You know, I said mom I didn't know what's wrong with going on with me and I went to you know Went to the hospital and they said my one of the kidney wasn't functioning Well, it wasn't functioning as they took it out, but it was 10. I'm saying yeah, so you right now. How old are you? 32 Okay, so you've been living mm-hmm for 22 years. Yes, we're out of kid. Yeah Well, you've been living for 32 years 52 you've been living for I'm alive Yeah, yeah, we're just one kid. Yeah, but here's what can be done. Yeah, put that liquor down. You don't need another liquor down So I saw down Look You live You can do it right There you go. I ain't even think about it. Okay. I don't even think There it is. It's the same shit. It's the same shit. You don't need two eyeballs. You don't need two kidneys I just yeah, I just found that shit out. Yeah You know, wow Wow So your diet has been a certain way for all these years hasn't been a certain that way But I don't drink alcohol, you know, I try to avoid you've never you've never Had I've drunk alcohol before yes, I have but now, you know What's the new green that you could do it with one kidney? Oh, well, I don't know. I ain't trying to find it I'm trying to find a way I can live Not how I can skate on the edge and how far I can go before I can clip over. That's that's some straight niggas should ask You ain't gonna believe this I'm a drinker. Okay. Oh, I drank on your show before you got two kidneys I got two kidneys. All right, then, you know drink on brothers. Yeah. Yeah as a matter of fact Chrissy get you a drink for me, please. Oh shit. Oh hell. No, that case was fresh mind shit. Yeah I love it. He's a mother. Yes. She's so attractive. What he's so attractive. And she's really pretty. Hey She's really attracted in person. You know, some people look good behind camera. Yeah, in person To what you're saying, huh? What what you're saying? I'm learning too much shit about Well, I say wrong wrong, I said she looked good in person You were here for the last show Yeah, she was doing the most I thought I knew Chrissy Damn, yeah, I'm quite sure you told the story, but how'd you get Chrissy? I might want to look for one of those Oh, I met Chrissy through my homeboy. Oh, okay. All right, then there it is then who your homeboy I need to connect with him Yeah Okay, you can you you're welcome to tell Okay Yeah, so my homeboy He's a he's a rapper. His name is a smoke from feel mob Smoke. Yeah, you know The dark skin one. Yes, the dark skin one like Terry's. Yeah, okay. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah So you so smoke is a connect smoke is the connect Yeah, yeah, man. Shout out to smoke. Yeah, shout out smoke. Yeah DMs Yeah, but basically you can live with a lot of parts, you know one, you know Here's the thing just do the best you can to eat healthy You know we you know in our communities are not a lot of healthy situations and stuff, but try the best You know, it's be real honest a lot of liquor stores and fried fish and fried chicken places That's not really detrimental to our health. You know when you live in a white area They got more motherfucking salad places and you know, just fresher stuff just as us as people just try to consume No more water not as much salt and fried stuff and you know, we can live longer, you know That's all that makes you if you don't have nothing but another five or ten more years to your life You got your loved ones that love you for five or ten more years I Love it love it love it. Hey, let's let's talk. Um, I Want to well, I want to pivot to real quick Let's pivot to Let's start a let's start a deaf comedy jam. No, no, no fuck that. Let's start a comedy in DC You're from DC, right? Yeah, I've never heard the PA origin of comedy story before. Oh, wow That's why I've never heard that before. Okay. Okay, and I feel like I know you Well, okay. Okay. Well, you do know me. You don't know everything about me. I'm saying I'm a bitch ass nigga I true that true that true that okay. I got bitch ass nigga friend. So it's all right. Okay. Yeah, um, I Was in high school and I saw open mic night and I went to a vocational school So I was during the day. I was finished a project I was looking through the newspaper and I saw open mic night comedy club so I decided to go down to on a Friday to a comedy club was the Friday and This brother was he was performing with some white guys It was regular night in the regular comedy show three comics and he said come on back on a Thursday Write some jokes. Come on back Thursday. We have open mic night. So I decided to come back the next week I didn't know what jokes were, you know at the time. I used to be a Jonah I could we call the Jonan snapping a ranking bag Okay, y'all call Jonah. Okay, Jonah. I'm real good with that and So I oh the comic I talked to there He was like just write five minutes of jokes and come on back, you know on open mic night So I'm driving home and what the fuck is five minutes of jokes like what is five minutes of jokes? I didn't know and this is also when Eddie Murphy was all the rage Everybody, you know, one did I know I wanted to do what Eddie Murphy was doing I didn't know how to get to that point and this is DC DC is a government town So everyone supposed to get a government job and he's gonna work there for 30 years and then get a two week Vacation you know to two week vacation every year and live next to your mama in a town house and that's your life I ain't want that, you know back then remember early that time. We didn't have deaf comedy and we didn't have comedians blowing up All you saw was Richard Pryor Eddie Murphy, you know, very few comics to see they can do it No young comics as I went down to the open mic night Ran into some some major hard hitters People who the Tony Woods they should pale a wanted Sykes Tommy Davis was doing around that time Martin Lawrence was down there all of them were down there young comics You know just comedians and some white people in white comics and so forth So I went up there on open mic night and I was actually funny, but how I did it I did it. I did it the wrong way the right way what it was I didn't know how to do jokes with jokes were so at the time a guy named Stephen Wright was popular Comedian Steven right white boy. If you remember the movie half-baked He was a guy laying on the couch all throughout the movie Very funny try humor he had had an album out and Rodney Dangerfield had a album out So I went to their jokes, you know had an album I listened to him took their jokes They made him urban so I went back to the comedy club and killed everybody damn you funny tell this ain't shit You know, but I ain't so and so I would do that kind of material for a while And then the way I changed it to my own humor because I didn't know again I didn't know what I could tell the story like how would jokes were I was running late to up Because you sign up at 6 o'clock and had to be back at 9 o'clock So I went home took a shower on a way back because I had the second pull the second name Because you pull names out of 30 names. I pulled out second I'm rushing there and a cop pulled me over I said come on here and gave me a ticket and I ran and it's like yo you up there come on man You go you up next I ramped I ran on stage and told a story about the cop I was pissed off and people started laughing. I'm like, that's just that really just happened You know I'm saying like I'm just pissed off before my shows before we get to my act that I cultivated at the time I just told that story people start laughing. I realized hey I can do my own shit like y'all laughing this this stuff I'm just telling y'all about so that start taking those jokes out the ones that from Stephen Wright and Rodney Daniels film stuff put my own jokes in there and that was late 90s mid 90s to late 90s and you know About early 90 Well 89 Martin and Tommy Davidson went to LA and they went Martin went to do a class act now that class that was that first one? He did house party. He did house party and Tommy Davis was working on living color the pilot the first episode So I went out there and I saw Martin all them and they were like yo come on out there DC come on back out here, man. I was like come on back out there I was like, all right, I can stay with you Martin. He's like no, I was like, damn nigga. You're inviting me to not Come out and come out and get on these streets yourself, nigga I was like damn so so for yeah, I said I said all my money Yeah, I was terrible, but I get it I get it but so a year later I came back out there and I came out there man with a car Pack of you know all my clothes I think a VHS back in there a little TV and a microwave and a $800 my pocket after a year saving I Got out here and I met some guys before I came out there the time I was there a year earlier I met a guy he's sitting stay with him and I get there as four dudes Well became four dudes in a two bedroom apartment. I was not living my best life Thank God Instagram was not back there. I had a hard time showing pictures around that blow-up mattress For six months. I did the blow-up mattress blow-up mattress is cool for two or three months. Yeah. Yeah, I mean two I mean no two or three days. I'm talking to a vacation, right? You know the company do six months on blow-up mattress And I'm the nigga blowing it up every night. Damn. They got asked me right now. Yeah Fucked up and I should keep going down. What? Man shit Okay, well, I was like damn some nights. I couldn't I didn't have enough lung capacity to sleep comfortably I said fuck it. I just do half half blow up and give me one of them cushion off the couch We'll do it like that and my niggas came home to have step over across me and she would a girl She was my boy lady right there. Just give him a boy lady right there You know, this is the land of fucking mattress a grown-ass man. I used to do a butt-naked. Yeah Oh, okay, we didn't do that. Oh, damn. Damn Did you do the do on it? Yes, sir. Oh, you was hitting on that joint. Yeah Give my booty a dollar a guy damn, okay That's living a life when you on them Hold on when you stand on a blow-up mattress and you can get a girl lick your way eat your ass Yeah, man, you cold-blooded. Hey, you don't know what you don't know how they life is. You don't know their life Well, that's true. That's true. That's you down about it If you think my life is bad, can you imagine what a woman like to lick ass on up on the blow-up mattress? Come on. Come on. Come on. You pussy doing that You know, she got to be doing that licking ass on a match on a blow-up mattress. Yes I thought licking ass had to be like in like in a nice hotel. Delicacy. Yeah. Yeah. No, I don't know. I don't lick no ass Nigga. No, you don't know. I don't lick stamp motherfuckers. I know I ain't licking ass. You like skin. You fucked over nigga You definitely. Yeah, you know, you what nigga? Only way I would consider licking some ass if that was my wife Hold on. I'm telling my wife. You're one of those niggas. You be lying, bruh. It's your birthday Okay, and she come out of a boiling pot of water. Okay. I got them lobster. She got to be red and wrinkle. Okay, and when she drop I want to hear If if okay, her first name is Chrissy. I might fuck with it No, I don't top it No, okay Clean in the motherfucker Now her if you eat my ass, they're gonna eat your ass. You better know it Chrissy smell a breath What that what that tongue do Don't hide it now Make mouth happy If you let a girl lick your ass, you gotta be down for the man scape You know come on son Can't can't leave a little shit is out and like I bus 41 on a Sunday. Okay. Okay. Oh We got this you Me and you got the same birthday May 7th. That's right. Yes Me and my home boy was just talking about this the other day and like he was like you got a you got the same birthday as somebody And y'all was going crazy about it when y'all found out. Yeah And I was like, yeah, I do remember that but I don't know who the fuck it is and it just hit me just Now now we asked the only thing we got in common is our birthday cuz I think I'm gonna comment Oh, okay. Don't bring me down in that ass. Oh, yeah And you ain't manscaping make it come on your ass rough as a damn carpet Like this got damn carpet. Hey, listen, I Never had this much had Really, yeah Hell no, you could definitely break that shit You can definitely break this shit. I'm I'm gonna clip it tomorrow tomorrow. Wow For your birthday, get ready for your birthday No, I'm gonna go behind there. Get me some get me a little yeah, look a little have some Scissors, no, no get a little razor. What do you call it one? Like they got manscaped. They got a little snout. No, I cuz I don't make the mistake and then cut some cut some dick meat You will with the goddamn scissors you talking about my mother Clippers with some clippers. I don't cut the dick meat. Now get the soft One-ass cheek to the side You know what? No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you went from here to goddamn here now You cool The ones that you use to shave your legs Little clippers a soft on the top You have a bloody ass on me Okay, it's not by the niggas underpins tonight cuz you're gonna need them Yeah Would you do your man's Yeah, you won't look at him differently She would See I would ask I would definitely ask If we ever start going together I'd ask you Yeah, 100% I was good to know I appreciate it Chris See you see you need me on the show to get info. Yeah, you know that did you know I didn't know you go I didn't know that I'm not gonna pull it out of folks. Yeah, I don't I need somebody to pull it out Okay. Yeah So let's talk Def Jam man, how do we make it to Def Jam? I got in Bob summer. I moved to California. I was being funny. I just my first year in California Bob Sumner had Look, they filmed people. I people don't notice they filmed six episodes first Managers and agents got their their comedians to go on first. They showed it so well just Being taped not being seen yet. So they did six shows that fella went well So he went back with Martin so they went back and look for they said, okay We want a full season meaning 12 13 episodes. They hadn't released the six one They've seen how good it went. He went back. He went looking for some more comedians He's he called a comedy club. They were talking about me, you know, you gotta check this boy Pierre He's really funny. So whoop-dee whoop. He came out saw me. I got stage. He said, yo, you're on Def Jam I didn't really know what Jeff remember hadn't aired yet. I was like, all right, Cole I had heard the other comedians had went Ricky Ricky Harris event Wilson rest in peace a couple other comics that went and did the thing, you know before and Steve Harvey did the first episode and You know, I went there and that's when I and a lot of people don't know this too in the first I'm gonna tell you something man. I know in the um, the earlier seasons They would take five comedians who wasn't the funniest wasn't gonna make it so your ass was in that bitch trying to get it on you know on TV and that's and so I Wouldn't did my thing and that's why I was so fast talking because everybody's like man, New York audience don't play boy You better come with New York or they don't give up So I was trying to make sure they don't boo me, you know, I'm saying while I was doing my thing That's why I did a show joke about being shot McDonald's the hitchhiker joke that people remember so much and And that's why Bernie Mac When he came out he said I ain't afraid you look because a comic had bombed in front of him So he was like that get right. No, no, it was a not got any butch burns from DC. Oh, hey He was his older. He's too old for that crowd and stuff So he didn't do well and that's why he said that that's why I married together You didn't see the comic you just heard Bernie Mac coming out saying what he said Who was Which burns nah, nah, nah, nah, nah, butchers is an older head You know, he's probably about at a time probably 40 and I'm kidding Everybody's like 18 19 21 22. So and he was a conservative, you know, he wasn't no hip dude, you know, so but now now he wasn't crying You know, no No, I didn't see him cry. I wasn't there for the taping before I heard I didn't see him cry Or I mean, I can't imagine crying, you know, he might have cried years later that he was a shit You know, I'm saying he's like the not the butt of jokes, but whatever. He's an old head I talked to him recently man. I'm so happy he's still around. This is 1990s think about that man. Yeah. Yeah, he's still You know still doing this thing Right now. Yeah, just a mature crowd, you know, he's by 65 now. Oh, yeah, of course. It's coming. They don't got no age Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he does different corporate shows and stuff like that. Yeah, definitely Yeah, yeah, so he's still doing so that's how I was and I asked and I'm gonna say this I'm down. So you had a great set man. I appreciate it. They're sexy rouse joke Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was the second one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know you did it twice You know you got on the show You different outfit you different outfit. Yeah, come on now. God damn, bro. He's sleeping Man, who was on who was hosting the second time you were on there? That's when they remember they went to like four hosts Yeah, yeah, I was Joe Tory Rock Jimmy five. No, no, no, that was an all-star. So what it was was Martin did two seasons then Joe Tory did a season then they did three people Ricky Harris Joe Tory Adele Givens And I think maybe someone else I forgot who else then they did it then the next year They bought the all-stars with all different comics did a different one, you know all-star I was in the one that season with the four people and then Joe Tory did mine and I remember Martin told me this man So he said what do you want me say about you and at the time? I forgot what I was young 21 22 whatever age I was and I said and I was headlining comedy clubs I said you tell them that I'm the youngest the headline of comic which I was at the time because he's a little old I'm like two years older me. He told me now. I ain't gonna say that. I said God damn That's when you get your net comedian from DC. Man, get the fuck out of here I told you what I wanted you to say nigga. You said no everyone else you tap dance for you Nigga from Brooklyn, he's the funny nigga Brooklyn But for me, he ain't gonna say it Just want to say y'all this comedian from depth then from DC That's what I asked you to say nigga You asked me what you want me to say and I told you what I want you to say and you tell me you ain't gonna say it He said no I'm gonna say that Then I came back When Joe Tory was hosting I rocked that motherfucker so hard. I threw the mic down and walked off and Joe Tory to my I ain't picking it up I ain't picking it up even nigga leave it out there Hey Dang jealousy did you did you get any flak from that or was it did you there was it a it was edited it right? So you was able to capitalize off the moment. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that'd be they show that part and all that You know, it's just what it is. It's the business man You know I'm saying yeah, I love this business. Yeah, I don't like everything about it, but I love this yeah It's rough, you know, I'm sure people have no idea what goes behind. No, they don't and sometimes when you speak on it You know people feel like oh you ain't you better. Yeah, I got a beautiful life. I live a beautiful life Yeah, I'm just telling y'all what happened now if you don't want to hear what happened and go go watch some another show Go watch Joe Joe Osteen. You'll tell you what you did here, but I'm gonna keep it 1,000 What happened was happening. I'm gonna tell you now for years. I didn't mention shit You know I'm saying cuz I was worried about the bigger picture. Somebody might do this I don't give two fucks nigga. I run my own shit now. Yeah, you don't hurt me. I don't give I make my own movies Yeah, I make my own podcast. I make my own own shit. I don't give a fuck now I don't mean I'm gonna be a asshole to people. It's just I'm gonna now speak my mind instead what it was You you go you go you don't you don't mind Throwing some niggas under the bus. No, they're not done the bus. No, no I'm just I'll have a problem showing people what happened or talking about what happened anybody throwing my body under bus No, they must don't know and I'll tell you who showed me love who did well for me, you know I got I love people come off. I've had 20 people No, let's put it over about a hundred people on my podcast who came to my you you didn't have to come on my show Yes, I did. Okay. Well, I needed this shit. I didn't feel that I needed I needed I left out of their energize. I once again I just want to say thank you for letting me come on again. Well, I was a blessing. I appreciate you coming man Yeah And I've had some huge stars I'm on my show some huge stars. So it's love, but you know if you ask me a question, okay You let me tap dance for you did what you need. I'm gonna make you feel better No, no, no everything that you say it make it make a lot more sense now and you have answered it like maybe five Questions with that statement. Just all right When you just said that there's a reason why you ain't still on this is 50 my fucker, you know Yeah, we all have reasons. Yeah. You want to talk about it. You talk about it. I mean you wrong for talking about it Why are you gonna bring that up like now the fuck are you asked? Yeah, but you know sometimes politics above the shit just be it is so I don't but that's that's when you still feel like you're under This the the hand of politics. Yeah, yeah So yeah, let's talk how to be a player, you know You know like How did you get that? How did you get the role in how to be a player? Well, you and Bill Bellamy already friends from the deaf jam situation. We were associates, you know, I'm saying we were cool You know, we didn't hang a call each other that you call that you will call that friend We weren't that we were cool I didn't move called Baps with Halle Berry and the producers of that show You know my movie thought I did well that was there jam to know no they were produced just the producers Who wipe you know, but Steph jam island pictures, you know, a lot of people are involved Right, so the producers of Baps said hey come and read for this movie. We got another movie shooting I came in and my girl shout out to my girl Nikki Gilbert from Brownstone She helped me read because she went to audition for it too So I went to her house and we've read over the lines the night before I came in I aced it And when I was leaving at least Neil had just did was doing her part, you know, I hope y'all know at least She was walking out the building and I killed my audition. They said hold up They called her to come back because you know see how our chemistry was they had liked her and we did it You know and next thing, you know, we were couple you know coupled up in how to be a player. Hmm. I love at least an ear Oh, yeah, at least no she had some actors. Yeah, I love an actress. Yes. Yeah, y'all still cool today Yeah, yeah, I've emailed her and texted her, you know saying I give her props for her stuff She was a good actress man. Remember she's in Rosewood. She's a lot of good Yeah, don't forget her. Yeah, she's just a sexy motherfucker and a dope actress of money talks. Yeah, I'm trying all that. Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, she definitely she definitely one of the ones I think just needs to you know Keep working and you need to give her more work to work work Did y'all so did y'all do like a how to be a player comedy tool after that? No, no, that didn't happen So no AJ Johnson, no no Bill Bellamy, no no Pierre comedy tool Yeah, no none of that none of that what happened when you have agents and managers if they don't feel this You know conducive for their client or whatever to you know, they just not the fans can want it all day long But people don't put it together. They want to put it together, you know, there's egos involved There's personalities involved, you know, it's just a lot of a lot of stuff goes behind the scenes You know, you know, we got a thing called favorite nations a lot of time and favorite nations mean everyone gets paid the same But then some people say man, I want 50,000 and the rest of y'all can have 2,000 like what? I'm not saying that's what happened. I'm saying how tours go sometime and that's why they break up They don't really work out like no man I'm not about to do a tour for 2,000 you can 50 and we damn near the same, you know I'm saying but some people feel You know, look at what's that group called? TGG. Yeah. Yeah, they might fucking broke up, you know, the money issues that shit man They trying to get back together now Tyree's trying to he had went back to Atlantic and he trying to put it back together now. I can start changing the market changing Yeah, yeah, you're like, okay, you maybe I fucked up on that. Yeah Happened like that. So yeah, so Bob would have loved it done it, you know, I enjoyed Bill Bellamy I enjoyed AJ me and AJ's who's got so much fun together so much fun together But I've been a cool tour. Yeah. Yeah, we're where we're we're you and AJ you was I really tight deal real tight real tight That's gonna be a little crazy. He'll hood nigga for real. You know, so I wouldn't hung out with him. He was yeah He was yeah, but we did a lot of shows together me and AJ man I Wish he wouldn't a pair, you know, I would love to get him on a podcast and sat down and talk to him Even on Natalie's yourself. I would have loved to get her recipe. We will now used to be so in love with her. Really. Oh, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah, I ain't no she was married. Yeah. Yeah, good person We're about to do baths to tour right before the pandemic really yeah me her AJ and some other people they were putting in You know parts and it was really a good play and I've done a lot of those black plays I've done these six seven black place. This one was really a good one. You know, I've done some good ones but this one was a good one I know bad ones are good ones and we went the right was right about the start when the pandemic hit To me and take the hiatus, you know, we couldn't do it and she passed in December So like around March we about to start December she passed and you know I don't I don't want to do it without I wouldn't want to be the only person from You know from baths to do that play. So God bless him. I hope they you know get you know the script was it was dope. So if you hear about it go out and see it Hey So, you know, we talking baths I know you get asked this shit All the time asking again ain't no wrong day Damn time. Yeah, you know the answer. Yes Ask it holly berry beautiful Like but she's not holly berry yet like then when you're doing back yet Hey, I ain't trying to be fucked up, but I don't know what you was looking at No, no, but she's no she's fine. She was finding the motherfucker. All right, yeah Yeah, she's finding but you know, it's something it's a I don't know what make people that nigger right But it was something about that movie Well, this wasn't the one that made her that yet Where people were saying she oh she was that nigger. Okay But of course, she still looked the same the next time when whenever when they said it she was that nigger, right? Well, and when you go back there and you look at that you're like, well, that's my nigga p.m over there Tongue kissing holly berry But see I'm like this What do you like once you're a queen? It don't matter what level queen you are Bringing back this lovely young lady here To kiss her today. I knew you was going to do that to kiss her today And she's she's gonna kiss you just cuz you did you kiss holly berry too. Okay. Well good But the kisser today and she's on the end of the couch and in tomorrow. I mean next year she becomes Biggest whatever celebrity whatever she wants. That's what she's gonna do too. It's the same lips nigga. It ain't no difference motherfucker Yeah, I won't be like, oh my god. I kiss her now. She in a movie with Eddie Murphy. That's never now It's the same lips. Oh, Chris is gonna change. Huh? She's gonna definitely change on your ass Is it gonna change? She's that she that type of lips ain't gonna change. Yeah But no, so so kissing the holly berry. We had it was it was great in fact I'm a tailor never looked nugget. I ain't really told nobody. Yes, please Damn And that is um The scene was We're dancing. I come to her. See her, you know, she's in a ballroom myself Right, huh? You grabbed the voodoo. No, no, no And so they supposed to show in the script. They suppose an old man I guess he's at the hospital And they come back and me and her starting to dance again and they cut back to him in the hospital And then they cut back to us kissing and then someone comes in interrupts the kiss, right? So Robert Townsend shouted to Robert Townsend. He was he directed a movie We were running out of time and so he was like, yo cut the don't forget don't we ain't gonna do the kiss part Just to do the dancing nigga, please Got me fucked way up. Okay So when we was dancing That's why I and if we said I thought I grabbed her head. You see me grab her head and pull her to me Now the point i'm a dc dude. I'm going in. I ain't know if she's gonna be like, hold on We said we ain't gonna kiss. I don't know but we're gonna try And she let me kiss her and that's the only kiss we did in the whole movie with that one kiss See, I ain't know nothing about that. What no whole bunch of kisses. It was one and done. Oh I made it Her lips feel like every part it it feel the same people be always saying how her lips feel like I mean like Shakita's in the hood lips They chopped and shit. Okay Lips are lips nigga. I was lips at Denzel Washington. Do you know that? You just ain't Denzel Washington You got the same lips. I got the same lips. I've seen Denzel Yeah, you got Denzel. You got Denzel lips. Oh, hold on. Hold on. I don't do that now Okay, that Denzel smith right there. No, just act normal relax. I'm trying I'm trying to get it together, man. I'm trying to get it back together, bro I'm trying to get it back together. You got me all shot You got Denzel lips. That's all so when girl kiss you say you kissing Denzel lips same lips lips Fucked up lips, but you had no one looking lips Yeah Word man, that's all that's what's up, man. I I appreciate you going putting that to bed for me, man Okay, because I've been wanting to ask you to ask you that forever And uh, yeah, yeah that that was I appreciate shout out to holly for letting me kiss her And we you know and shout out for for Robert Townsend I stopped in the tape and shit and it became because you know what I had a good time in the movie But I'm gonna keep it 1000 For the street news all that if I hadn't kissed a nigga, I just been in the movie with her that kiss took it to another level Yeah, don't nobody asked me. How was it acting with her and no neither. How was it kissing her? So you let me make that one moment. It's like, I saw you in that movie baps What you kiss is totally different. Hey, so let's let's go back a little bit Let's go back to how to be a player with a with nade in I mean, uh, at least oh my god Oh, what like yo, what was that like you? Come on man. Look at him man. You saw the bro. Come on. What's the top actress? She's very good at actress ad libbing and all that shout out to my man the director Lionel C. Martin He directed that and he let me ad lib And what I realized then when he let me ad lib some stuff And then when it came out people liked the stuff I ad lib. I said, you know what? I got it That's when I realized I had it because y'all like the shit that I came up my damn stuff I was supposed to come downstairs with just some drawers on at the door. I said, nah, son That ain't gonna be funny. Give me the cowboy boats and the hat and the bubble whipped cream Then I hit the door is a whole different thing. He said go on do it, man You know they got a college chair. Yeah, I'm gonna open the door and say yo, come on out And I said, let me get in and get that chair. I got a little move. I'm thinking about He let me do that. So shout out to Lionel. He let me do some extra little things and stuff So yeah a little extra stuff. Yeah all that man, man. She she's still fine What? I see I follow IG man. I seen her it uh It uh, god damn, uh, what's my man Chris Spencer? um, his uh chocolate sundaes He was he was doing a mock uh shoot for his Comedy special that he's doing for netflix. Okay, and she was there. I was like god damn Oh, yeah still fine Still, you know, they say black don't crack With with the booty crack too. Oh damn I think I like that girl. I he like ice spicy munchie munchie Yeah, I'm a munch. Yeah, you're a munch. I'm a munch Bruh, yeah, yeah, man Oh god So, you know, you you hooked up with comedy hype. Yeah. Oh, hold on. Let me let me I'm gonna be skipping on when I met you You know on dwayne boys movie. Oh, yeah 10 minutes four minutes four minutes. Yeah Shout out to dwayne boy. I love your dwayne boy. Do you know how big of a fan dwayne was? Did to uh of yours and to have you in the movie you you made his life No, yeah, yeah, I put him in my movie one of my movies is coming out soon. Yeah, he killed it. Yes And once again dwayne boy is one of the most the hottest Acting coaches in Atlanta. I wonder how does acting classes for mega actor studio? Yeah, yeah, good dude. Yeah, good job. I always great guy people ask me was an actor class to come do in Atlanta I always mention his yeah, and he let me sit in a couple times and give notes to the actors. I really appreciate that Yes, yes, yes, yeah, you know the If you need a you know head shots, uh You know, um, if you needed to send in tapes and what would what they call it send the tapes When you send the tape in, uh, yeah, yeah, like like the art for addition. Yeah for addition some stuff What's the man? What is it? I forget what that is. Yeah, obviously you don't do it that much either Yeah, yeah, you see how you just turned that shit on me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I said we I didn't say the word we yeah Yeah, yeah, it's called a pronoun motherfucker pronoun. Yeah. Yeah But uh, yeah, yeah, DC young fly. He said he do it. He go to that Tuesday or just that. Oh, that's good Yeah, I went to him some time. Yeah. Yeah, he said go there But what about what we want more minutes? Yeah four minutes. That's right four minutes. Yes working on that film man How was it for you? um To be honest, it was a small little movie real quick in and out Oh, you took the money and then got on. Yeah. Well, no, I didn't get any money. I showed love. It's all good He came and did my movie. Yeah. Yeah, he came to my movie dig. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, that's what's up, man. I got a movie called slice This is trilogy slice one two and three and he played a couple of times he played it twice Part one and part two they're about to come out now to tubi and I like him coming out to tubi because tubi I heard got some bullshit on it and mine ain't bullshit. So hopefully people gravitate to my good shit You know, so I just need eyeballs. Damn. How you know, I'm saying I don't care if it's a platform people say Oh, they got some bullshit that movie those bullshit over there minds over here You know what I'm saying? Hey, yeah, ain't nobody shooting their own movies, bruh I know I do niggas and say what the fuck they want to say And whatnot. Yeah, it is what it is. Yeah, nigga, you go do it Yeah, and shout out to everybody else that is doing the same thing and uh, you know Taking their destiny into their own hands and putting their stuff up on tubi and everything too man. Shout out to you Amen, uh, how many how many movies are you in right now? Like that you produce yourself? Well, I produced one back in the Like like early 2000s called for the love of money. I took a lot of comedians. I remember that Yeah, that was and I didn't realize how inspirational it was to a lot of comedians They came to me who makes movies like oh, you I saw that Yeah, if you're on Crockett in it my big my man rock rest in peace Ralphie made a big white comic and stuff Honest John I had a whole bunch of joey wells one of plastic cup boys See, I was around comedians and I'm beyond the inspiration came from robert towns and hollywood shuffle You know, I saw him doing that and so I I'm you know, I'm good with writing stuff So I wrote a movie and I just used a lot of my friends who were funny comedians Who just needed something to shine on do something I got them together and they killed man People I got so many comedians and they killed that movie and I'm gonna put I'm gonna really Re-release that on I'm gonna release that on other social media platforms because people have been asking me Yo, where but you can't really find a dvd or vhs no more of that So I'm gonna put it back out call for the love of money And then I came to Atlanta And I got tired of hollywood, you know, hollywood system and all that and I was like, you know enough of that So in early, I think it was uh 2000 Here that come out here 2008. Let's say a that came out here because you know became the was coming to becoming the black hollywood So I said, you know what I'm gonna come and take, you know, I'm gonna play that system in LA LA is such a totally different system of Agents and managers and this and that and out here was like wild wild west You just had a camera and some people to come we ready to film Yeah, I was hungry and ready to help and everybody wanted to work and um, I started uh, uh, what do you call that thing? Remember my, uh, web series dating pierre. Yep. Oh man I did seven episodes of the wildest stuff I could think of and I love when I'm directing and some writing some because I get to do what I want to Ain't no, no, I don't do that. Let's not say that. Let damn that We're gonna do it and go see what it's gonna be and it was about me dating different types of women out here in LA I mean in landa like everyone from hood rats to, uh, nerdy girls to like you had our Kind of bitch. Oh, well, well, damn. Okay You want to say that then? Are we gonna cut that out? I get to say But um, I had a lot of fine actress and actresses Shout out to skull bubble number skull bubble. Yes, I do. Yeah, shout out R. R. R. P. You are you by the rsvp's No, no, he ain't gonna be back. He ain't definitely gonna be there. He ain't gonna be there Shout out to my school. He was one of one the cool guy. So I did that Then after that, I wrote slice. It's a horror comedy. It's basically what black people are doing a horror movie You know, and the cool thing about mine is you don't most movies, you know, who the killer is You know who jason is, you know, freddie kruger is already but mine is he's he or she is a character in the movie Because he wears a gas mask a hoodie a gel stripe outfit gloves and a machete So you can't tell who the person is underneath there And the cool thing was I let anybody wear that damn outfit during the movie So the shape of that nigga body was moving on kind of tall. I mean, you don't know who they are But they are one of the characters in the movie and at the end we pull off the math like scooby-doo Like oh, shit. So-and-so and then we do flashbacks of stuff. You should have paid a titch to in the movie Kind of like well murder she wrote and shit like that You know the old Yeah, yeah, all that kind of like go back like oh, he turned the door was red herring. There it is There it is So each movie is like that you got to guess and I got new characters Of course, we kill off some characters in part one But whoever's left over comes to part two with some new ones and I got some comedians in it I killed it when I say killed it killed it man So, um, I'm so proud of them man. Did I you know so that yeah, so so get ready for that on tuba or whatever Your uh streaming platform slice one and two and three Yeah, I'm so proud of you man. I'm so proud to call you man one of my best good friends I got one more salacious. This is I got one salacious one salacious question. Oh, here we go the vicious lies nasty rumors You could clear it up if it's true. I know where you're going with them really I don't have much bullshit around me. Okay, very few. What you think I might ask you I know what it's gonna start with. Yeah, what you think? Come on. No, I'll tell you what ask me I'ma tell you that's what it was. What'd I be honest with you? Okay I can tell her Yeah, tell her I ain't got much that fucks. I don't do no fuckery. So I it's gonna be small Legend has it that You had told gary Owens A wife That he was cheating on her. Mm-hmm That's what he this is what he told you. I don't have much fuckery, bro What I told you that's the chris? I don't have much chris. He told you that He said it I told you because I know what it is, but I live a clean, slighted life. He said it Motherfuckers. Yeah, he said it. That's what he told me. I know you can't pick nothing else. I do I don't do fuckery shit at all. I don't fuck no. I ain't no fuck boy. I don't fuck no one over none of that So I don't hear that about me That's when that story came out. It was fuckery I don't do that So the basically the thing was she used to work at a comedy club You know fat Tuesday and book comics. Yeah, so we changed numbers ever She's she had a lot of people's numbers and we talked me and her talked, you know a normal But when she started liking me not liking me like that, but like saying you cool as fuck You know you coming to clubs now. You don't say nothing. I thought you there. You weren't trying to hit it No, sir, brother Now, why do I do want me to start fuck around now all the thing I've been telling you've been the truth Don't you think the whole father's interview been 100? I think it had you got to cut shit out nigga. That's how hunted. I am my fucking so let's be real So now so now I'm with this one fuckery. No, sir So let's go with everything I say is correct in above water 100% there we go. Look at me sideways now Yeah, yeah, right, right, right. You got this motherfucker make this from an hour show to a 30 minute show Okay, because it's too real All right, all right makes it makes it so yes, so she was working at a comedy club You know and we say a number and she's like, you're really cool So we talked about the business so we talked on the phone about the business back and forth sometimes What she called me to book me for the room Okay, so I don't you know, whatever I move away from la one day. I heard that he had a problem with me All right, whatever you know, you know, you know, I don't know why but whatever But I kind of let it go, you know people you may hear somebody say something about you whatever But I'm going to confront you when I see you but I'm not gonna chase you You know I'm saying we'll talk about when I see you that's the copy nigga I don't walk around past who do they don't like each other. I'm all like, you know how the chief was like What did you say? I have no problem Now I'm not trying to sound bold here, but you know about to whoop my ass If you would you want to take a ass with me with you. I'm not afraid of nobody So I don't have a problem with coming to you and say, let's talk bro like two men I don't do that bitch shit. I don't play them games. We had a problem just to work it out Once I've asked you we talked as a man if you do that bitch shit behind my back Then you the bitch because I came to you already and I talked to you Now I know I'm light-skinned and handsome, but I don't think I'm a bitch nigga Okay, I know somebody gotta be dark with you know Damn you're missing the eye cutting the fucking wisdom teeth. Then it gets like you a tough motherfucker. No, sir Not say you're not tough, but you get what I'm saying No, no, you good. You good. You a real cat That's why I'm here I'll do it by podcast Okay, you can't count on your fingers. How many podcasts I've been on With one hand. All right. So back to the story real quick at hand So I heard he was you know, he didn't like me whatever so finally got it got out of hand and I kept hearing stuff So then I went and I confronted I tried to confront him one day Up here and and he had somebody throw me out the fucking venue and shit asked me to get the fuck out of the venue I was like wow his manager, whoever was with it. I was looking at him from behind the stage He was doing a big show so the next day I was talking to somebody and I said, so I said, well, what happened He was someone's there. I said that nigga trying to you know, whatever down a block I said because I because someone told me it was because I said that he was doing the same material over and over again. I don't know. That's why he was probably mad at me I'm like what the fuck. I didn't know what the real reason was like whatever I said, uh, I told my friend who's asked why I you know, why I get kicked out I told him that he said, that's not what he said. I said, that's not what he said. What did he say? He said Read he had you kicked out because you told his wife that he'd be fucking around the road I'm like, what? First of all, I'm 2g of that shit nigga. I didn't live a great life when I was married So I'm not gonna bring the wives down. I don't play. I don't care if you fuck yourself nigga I don't fuck around. I don't care. There's nothing to do with me I would never do that because I know if I told his wife that say if I would do something like that And they get back together then what did I just do? I don't tell his wife some shit and then she's still married to the nigga then he pissed off and she pissed off I don't need that part. I don't need that. I'm not gonna do that. So I don't get down like that so I said, what? Now I'm hearing that he's telling people that And I stand on my square You know I'm saying as a man, I don't do that. So if niggas telling you you want some bitch shit You want to really rectify it then then I'm really looking for him So I finally caught up with the nigga years later some other stuff happened. I'm gonna get into that But uh, you know to show how real I was with the nigga and he got it So I met him at a club my son in the club and we sat down and talked about it And I said dude, let me holler at you. What the fuck is you talking about? And he explained to me said man, you know, my wife came and said that you know She knew some some detail of a situation he said and she knew too many details He's like, how do you know these details? And she said he said tell me she wouldn't tell him for like a week He said man, tell me what the fuck who told you This came out. Yeah, tell me What? Well under what bus bitch throw me under the bus bitch. Are you crazy? What we're not gonna do is that bitch hell now like I ain't never tell you that I never told her that ever ever And so He's like, all right. Oh, man. I said, okay, bro. I said, are we good? We too messy to make all we good nigga. I'm right here with you. It was a problem to talk about if not. We good. He said we good All right That was years ago I heard he still has a little feeling about certain things Yes, we're not good I have no beef with that man But I told him what I said now him and his wife ain't together Maybe you may understand maybe you know He might not be telling the truth all the time But this situation here she might I'm quite sure she she did not tell the truth I'm saying so And it's funny because people who know me uh tour with like p. That ain't you nigga And they know it near you. You know, you would do So it is so good. I ain't mad about it, brother P. P. You gonna have to beat her ass No, no, no, no That's the only way you gonna That's the only way You got to clear your name and beat her mother fucking ass. Do she still work in that club? No, no I'ma tell you something. Now. This is what this is where the ass women should come. But you know what? You know, we black folks are we gonna love this God got me on this Okay, I ain't got to beat nobody ass. Okay, I got it. He don't take care of this. He's right. He's right. Look who I'm at now Okay, I'm on the new jack thriller city podcast Now Now what I will say this gets my black folks pissed off and I'ma keep a thousand I I went from working theaters to working in comedy clubs into bullshit rooms Oh, whatever. I don't know. Maybe I fell off Years this is before we before we had these Before we had to sit down. Yeah before you sit down. Now, this is about a 10 year gap I mean, this is 10 years of this shit happening. I didn't have no idea why it was situations like that A promoter called me and said I'm trying to get you on a show with bruce bruce But the agency said somebody said you can't work with bruce bruce They're what and bruce like that's we cool I call bruce right up because I tell you I come to the problem I don't run from the problem. There's a problem. I go right to you. What's up? I call him up. I said bruce. What's up, man? I can't do a show together. Nah, what you like? Yeah, you my dog. What you guys doing? They saying the promotion. I can't work with you. Nah, you work with me I said, what's your agent? He told me Someone else has that same agent Let me make a phone call I went off To the head. I was to the head of not the you know agency's have other little agents on either I went to the head agent I said nigga. No, no, no You try not to get me on a show With my man bruce bruce I found out the agent underneath that told whoever promoter pia can't work with none of our clients Can't work with show underwood can't work with bruce bruce on sj dl hughley Hold up Because this white boy got a problem me. I can't work with nobody. So can you matter if you're a promoter? You call up. So I want dl. I want bill belby and pierre. No, we don't appear can't work with none of our clients I mean years of that shit. I was getting out while I was doing a little small role I wasn't doing no theaters no more That's what we're doing the nigga because this motherfucker got a problem with me. You tell me I can't work with nobody I can understand me and him not working together. All right I'm fine with that But the rest of them so his agent called and whatever you call that now you the promoter you don't have my information You're like, all right. Well, give me someone else and shit. How many times that could have went down? So check this out. So one day I'm not a blue. I'm in Atlanta. I get a text. I get a call from that agent I Said who I was playing with me because I knew the agent I said man, whatever my fuck click hung up on the motherfucker Fuck you don't know my friend the fucking I get a text. It's called a v-card But they put all your information on it and shit like that and turn out it's really mean I said, what the fuck would you be calling me when you just shit on me for years with his, you know So he said the next time you in LA. Let me uh, let me uh Let me come come to my agency. I want to talk to you Now happen to be coming to LA like a week later. So I went to LA. I had a meeting with him They had g. I am I sit down with this true story. I sit down with the agent Hi, let me talk to you about this stuff, man. I said, all right Like what you want from me? Like I'm wondering what it is He says, uh, we don't have Gary anymore So I said fuck Gary and fuck his wife with them fake titties. I hope she gets cancer in them I said nah, bro. You can't say that what you're not gonna do is diss him now because you don't have him I told him I told the white man just like that. I said I don't play. I'm just joking I said, yeah, we don't do that, bro. We're not gonna diss Gary because you don't got Gary He was like, nah, I'm just down. Yeah, we can and then we went and we you know, he said I'm gonna give you all the work I I lost you He didn't give me another work But you know what god got me I'm okay I'm okay. You did what you did for years The cream rises to the crop. I'm a bad motherfucker on that stage I'm funny. I write. I direct. I produce. I do my own thing I am blessed I'm dead ass. I'm blessed Sure, I should have asked more money if something's gonna change, but you know what? This is the path god had me on and I'm okay with it That's why I tell you I'm not worried about anybody in this business If you want to black bar me stab in the back do what you gotta do. I'm not stopping You know what I'm saying? I'm not stopping. It's it. I'm not stopping So deal with me or get the fuck out of my way But I'm not stopping Unless a good lord take me about here, but you're not gonna stop me by being mad at me and this and there I'm gonna make sure he ain't worked there. No and first of all, it's a small group that may not like me Five percent. I got 95 percent people who call me names that you know Your pee. I got love for you, bro. Look bro. If you need anything, let me know What you need? Well, what you need? This is that the other I got it all day long Small group might talk shit. You don't see me hanging with them. I don't do the phony It's okay if you do it. It's all I does if you need to do I'm at a point where I don't need to do that no more I go in the room if I like it we talk if we don't like each other You know, whatever you don't like me. It's okay. What do you want me to do? I don't like he too arrogant. He think he all that. Okay. What why should I not think I'm the shit What what is wrong with y'all? Whoever it is I don't play fake humble. I'm just doing the best I can. I hope y'all like man. Fuck that. I'm the shit If you don't like that. I'm the shit. It's okay I'm not gonna let you tell me I'm not the shit. I might be the shit to you But I'm always gonna be the shit to me That's all I'm gonna make. That's what's gotten me through this When people say no, you ain't right for the part. I don't say, okay. Let me get a construction job Let me work at Walmart. No This is what all them the grave would take me this right here The grave will take me this not got other side businesses. I'm just about to open up a day placement for adults Look at that side money, you know, so when you see that, you know, we go from the Mercedes to the Bentley, you understand Side hustle money Because this is paying me right now and I make this make me money in other ways so Yeah, some people go for the shine and all that oops. You could that's that's fine. I want the money run me my money You know I'm saying and if you talented good enough, you get your money Just don't shit on people. I don't shit on people people may shit on me, but I don't shit on people You know, I'm saying When you ask me to come here, I'm here. I didn't counsel or anything like that late and all that. I don't do that. This is business You know, I'm saying and I appreciate when you came to me. So I take it seriously. I take this business seriously I'm I am I am really joy In love with what I this is lucky man. Wake up. We get to wake wake up and do what we want to do Right 100 you know, I'm saying and if you don't understand, but I tell people this is one thing I'm gonna leave you all with I'm trying to tell folks this I had to learn this about eight years ago In this business or anything in life Enjoy the journey Because you cannot control the end. You may never be a big star Rich is motherfucker, but you can enjoy the journey. So what you control what you can control Why not enjoy what you control? I used to go eat steak and lies at my wife with me when I was married I see I go out of town come back on the sunday we go to the nice restaurant I'm eating the steak and lobster. I ain't paying attention really. I'm doing my other shows. I didn't enjoy the moment I got a I've had luxuries cars and shit. It was it. They just became cars like no, hold on p This is the Mercedes. Enjoy this motherfucker. You work hard for this. Keep it clean ride. Enjoy it shoes. I buy I enjoy it food. I eat Everything I do I enjoy now when I before I was like this ain't nothing but shooting me No, it ain't no nothing but you think it's kind of four days. Maybe we can't get these on the hand So I'm gonna enjoy in fact. I got these you know what I'm saying Whatever way I got them. I gotta enjoy that. In fact, I can get stuff. I enjoy that So I try to tell folks enjoy the journey. Sometimes we stress too hard on the end result and forget about the journey You're fucking around get a heart attack and shit and before you know it you didn't get to the journey You don't mess up the whole I mean the end result. You don't mess up the journey So enjoy it Especially when you're doing something making money for something you want to do You know what I'm saying and I have to do So when you get something out here and you're doing something y'all Enjoy it man, and I enjoy it right now. I am in love with what's happening with me And speaking of that prayers out to jamie fox. Oh, yeah. Yeah We're that's how I think he's doing better now, right? Didn't he He's doing better. There you go. He's still in the hospital. Okay Hey, um So tell them tell them tell them where they where they can find you up here how to get in contact with you Oh, my man right here jack dweller. That's as simple as that Daddy daddy is man Hey, like I always say you just can't say you realize something you got to be man Hey, tune in next time new jack dweller city, man. I'm gonna have the biggest and the best Pia, thank you for coming. Thanks for having me, brother. I love you. I love you too, brother Let's take some pictures I