 What we thought about it. It's a clue to the next person Yeah, that is a really awesome Derek Jolly asks what thought you're saying game. Would you like to see remastered? In HD You guys there. Yeah. Well, hey, I'm just I'm pondering the question Oh, what what legend is all the game? Would you like to see remastered in HD and in the future on NX? And I have to step out for one second because my computer's about to die because I forgot to plug the power in when I moved it But keep talking Okay, so I going to assume since he said remaster it doesn't mean remake which means we can't choose 2d titles No, which means we can only choose one game Which is Skyward Sword because it is the only 3d Zelda title that has not yet been remastered in HD Yeah, it's the only one which hasn't been upgraded from what it was originally the problem is you would have to carry over the control system and Would you we don't again? We know nothing about the NX it could have we motion plus we you know It could work it could theoretically work, but I feel I mean skyward saw wasn't that long ago in comparison I mean, yeah, I can't remember when Ocarina of Time was remade was that 2010 Maybe I'm not sure. I'm pretty sure it was ten years afterwards Similar either so it's a it's at least a decade of a gap So that's that's a reason I'm allowed to time you you remake skyward sword and that's like, you know five six seven years That's that's you know when I expand out to seven years It sounds like oh, it's not much not much of a difference, but it's it feels very memorable to me Still it wasn't that long ago So I feel it is probably the only game left you could remaster because could you do the 2d games? Could you really polish them in such a way that would warrant a remastering? I can't really but skyward. Yeah, it's always very recent. So at least in my mind Yeah, yeah, let me know that I'm back and my screen isn't blacked out as I'm trying to read the question Like I was literally sprinting because I'm like no my computer can't crash right now So he did he said, you know what? What legend is all the game would like to see remastered on the NX or Wii U? Such as Twilight Princess HD when we're HD or any other Nintendo game for that matter So obviously we'll start with the Zelda stuff as you guys were talking And since I jumped in I might as well say what game I want to see them do it, too I don't think skyward sword is going to happen not just because it's recent as you were saying rabbit Luigi. I think The controls I think it's because the NX isn't going to support Wii motion controls. Yeah, that's what he was saying. Yeah Yeah, that's too central to the game. So so I think I Think and this is what fans originally wanted is that Ocarina of Time is going to get remastered in HD and they're gonna Like really blow it out. Now. This isn't gonna happen for like, I mean this guy says what do we want? So this is what I would like to see happen And I'm not even a big Ocarina of Time fan, but I don't see a big A big boost coming to any other Zelda game except bringing the 64 ones in I mean you could talk about the 2d ones and all that stuff But I I mean I want to see Ocarina of Time and then obviously lead that into Majora's Mask getting fully blown out Yeah, I don't want to see I was going to say I want to see it or I don't want to see remastered I want to see it like remade like built from the ground up in HD Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know I'm with you on that and yeah, you know Building off of that. I kind of want to see Twilight Princess hit again with the tech demo graphics. That would be awesome I don't think it's ever going to happen So my choice is kind of based on a what I think is more possible to happen Because I don't think a 2d move into 3d is highly possible or highly likely I don't think Twilight Princess is gonna be revisited I don't think Skyward Sword is going to be possible to do at least not at this time So I think that Ocarina of Time kind of serves as a good Revisit even though it's gonna need a lot of work, obviously either rebuilt from the ground up or Given the Final Fantasy 7 remaster treatment without necessarily changing the perspective of the game Like Final Fantasy 7 remastered what they did with that is that's basically not even a remaster. They remade the game And I almost want to see that happen with Ocarina of Time, but I don't think they need to I think the base coding and the physics and everything else would be just fine They would just need to overhaul the graphic engine and give us way updated, you know models and Textures and all that stuff, you know, even if they made it look like Twilight Princess HD That's like a huge upgrade Over what Ocarina of Time is right now So but then again that also comes down to what does Nintendo think Ocarina of Time's visuals are supposed to be Are they supposed to be like what they looked like on the N64 which seemed a bit more realistic? Or they're supposed to be like Ocarina of Time 3D, which will lead more towards the cartoony side I don't know what the original vision was intended because the N64 might not have been able to do what the original vision was So yeah, I don't know that that's just the game I think they should revisit and bring into HD even though and you folks might be thinking of a hypocrite I don't I'm not a huge Ocarina of Time fan But I think it deserves an HD treatment, I'm with you I think it deserves an HD treatment, you know It's one of the most famous Zelda games if not the most famous the more famous one might be You know the NES game, but it's definitely It was revolutionary for the series with the first 3D Zelda game Nailed than it controls You know for the N64 era like a franchise moving into 3D and nailing the controls that that was a little rare I mean Nintendo was able to do it with a lot of franchises like Mario 64 But I thought Ocarina of Time was a bit more polished in that game And it was definitely revolutionary not just for the Zelda series but for gaming in general So I definitely agree it needs to be remade and given the HD treatment Yeah, I'd say Anything else you want to add? Well, I'd say Ocarina of Time the 3D version if you were to remake the N64 version It does undermine the 3DS version quite a lot But the problem is 3D isn't much of a selling point so you say Ocarina of Time 3D that's kind of a gimmick It's kind of interesting as well as is the 3DS HD Ocarina of Time is quite exciting. I like the idea of Hyrule Field looking like a field That's that's the thing because Hyrule Field is a carpet of grass. It's it's you know too perfect It needs to have like motion if you I don't know how much you would change It would just be graphics or if you would like polish up like how the water reacts to you or things like that, but It's it's not messing too much while also making it worthwhile to actually remaster it and I feel you know There's a few things mechanically you could change but The graphics make it into HD is just ridiculous It will be I'm not sure if people would like really want to it wouldn't if you make it for example Theoretically, this is a stupid stupid idea But if you released or if you had an option between releasing the NX with Zelda NX new game whatever it is or HD remaster of Ocarina of Time I feel like it wouldn't perform as well because Ocarina of Time does have like that global appeal, but you know you want a new game So I kind of with go feeding back to the question I don't want Nintendo to focus too much on remaking or remastering a game But if you are gonna do one and to be honest, there's only one you could do it would have to be Ocarina of Time yeah, yeah, and To be to Nintendo's credit At least in all of the recent remasters The Zelda team itself has only been responsible for one of them Everything else has been outsourced Grezzo did two of them and Tantalus Studios out of Australia did to other Princess HD. So I think what we're getting at with Ocarina of Time is That in order to bring it to HD it needs a lot of work and a lot of attention a lot more than Grezzo gave You know Ocarina of Time 3d and Majora's Mask 3d and a lot more than what Tantalus gave to Twilight Princess HD So it's one of those things where you almost don't want External studio taking care of it because you're not sure they're really gonna get it right And that's kind of the caveat we've kind of reached a point with with remasters where Especially HD, I mean you can still do some stuff with 2d ones if you want to update the sprites and update the resolution or whatever but with the 3d ones we've kind of reached a point where Ocarina of Time Majora's Mask are the only ones that aren't really in HD besides Skyward Sword and As we already discussed obvious reasons why we've kind of reached now that we know that the annex is coming out March next year We've kind of reached the end of the possibility of Skyward Sword HD unless for some odd reason they release at this holiday for the 30th anniversary which I Don't think I don't think that's how they just did Twilight Princess HD There's no way that can also had Skyward Sword HD going. There's just no way in my mind. They had that Even though I think it's going to upgrade HD Oh, I think Skyward Sword upgrading HD is really easy to do probably the easiest of all the games they have And Skyward Sword HD is really good. The way the art style is like in the dolphin emulator Yeah, if you look at the dolphin emulator, I mean it's not even really a mod It's just displaying the in-game graphics in HD and it's amazing There's like no re-tuxetry. It just looks fantastic. So it is possible But I just don't think so be sense not all Wii U owners necessarily have Wiimotes I just don't think it's gonna happen. But yeah You know when it you know you brought up a good point about You know would be rather of our community of time HD which is going to take a lot of work or rather of a brand new Zelda game No, my answer is all defendants always new game every time rather have new game, but It does feel weird that there's these HD remasters and our community of time is not one of them Yeah, I mean that that's the only thing it just feels weird is our community time kind of was the base for all these other games So it feels weird that that's the one, you know, even if they never do it to Majora's Mask They just decide I'm gonna time alone like that's It's I mean I can have time 3d is already one of the best-selling 3ds games And that's sold 4 million and if the reactions to the videos that we've posted like we've posted a lot of unreal engine videos Remaking Zelda stuff and most of those videos have been about operating of time The amount of views and the money interest we get in those is higher than we get for Zelda use reveal back in 2014 So like I don't know that's indicative overall of sales because we're just one site on the internet But there's a high interest in occurring of time coming out in HD So I think it's one of those that if for some reason Zelda use sales tank Let's say Zelda you collectively only sells like two million units just terrible absolutely terrible for 3ds out the game It would be the worst selling 3ds out the game of all time So let's say that happens they invested all this money in the game and it just bottomed out Okay, well, they're not about to turn around and make another 3ds out the game Because they just blew a bunch of money and didn't make anything back And I think in that scenario that's when they might look at let's revisit operating of time and Look at the sales that got and we already know we're probably guaranteed three to four million in sales already and based it on a budget of only selling like three million copies and That way I could see where that would just be a scenario that as a scenario. I don't want to see But then they would be that would be where they decide we need to take a break from the 3ds other games because they're just not selling and then Really, it's a great time. Well, they make more handheld games or whatever And then if that is successful then come back to the 3ds all the games You know say eight years from now or whatever and I hate saying that I don't want that to happen I want like a news. I want a new cone consoles all the game like every three years, but You know business reality is is that if the sales tank then they can't keep doing it So what we're saying is that when Zelda Wii U comes out or NX buy that thing or big trouble buy Don't hey, it's something. I've actually been subtly saying You know over the past couple years. I'm like, I don't think fans understand like how much cell do you sales? I'm really gonna impact the future of the series It's not just like for Zelda you what it is trying to be a new foundation for the series, but like Nintendo voiced I've never seen them voice this publicly before they've voiced that they were upset with the sales of Skyward Sword And Skyward Sword sold 3.5 million. So like if They're upset with 3.5 million and that was one of the most expensive games They've made at that time and now it's up to you is probably even more expensive and if it sells even less Whoo You saw what they did with Metroid after other M they pulled the plug so Not saying they're gonna pull the plug on Zelda overall There's Federation Force Well, that's kind of what I'm saying though There's not like a new mainline Metroid game hitting Legend of Zelda Federation Yeah Be like look we're gonna keep making handheld ones because they're cheaper and we make money on them And then we'll just revisit 3d Down the line when people have had a break because they might think maybe people are just sick of 3ds all the games I don't know how we can be sick of them when we have five-year breaks between games. Yeah But people are there's a lot of people mad at Nintendo that it's on NX a lot of people Mad at them that the Wii U is terrible in their opinion All I could say is that I'm hoping that what happens is when the NX comes out They discount Wii use down to a hundred bucks and then if you really want to play Zelda It's only gonna cost you 160. Have a good day There we go I mean, that's what I'm hoping they do like discount We use go enjoy that Wii U backlog for cheap and if you want the latest and greatest We buy an NX for 300 or 400 whatever they launch it at So yeah, that's uh, we'll get to get into the second part of your question Derek You did ask, you know, if there's any other Nintendo game that we might want to see remastered I'll say that we each can list off one game. We want to see remastered That's not Zelda And I man, that's a that's such a tough question Because it's really Nintendo's been really weird and that they remastered Zelda like nothing else You know, I'd have to say I mean, it's a cop out to say Mario 3d though You know, that's basically what Star Fox zero is But yes, let's see I'm gonna say Well, the one game I want to get remastered wasn't made by Nintendo. So I can't say that game. What is it? Secret of mana man. Oh My favorite game of all time that game that come back at me and have the visuals re-upped or bring that game into 3d Oh, that'd be sweet. I'm good 3d actually But that would that was square and I'm apparently squares getting along with Nintendo right now But I until we see proof in the pudding. I'm not gonna put much stock in What the rumor wire is saying about that? So let's uh, man Man Well, why you think of that? I think yeah, yeah, you know what you guys did you guys have yours ready? Yeah, I got mine ready. Absolutely. I've got mine. Yeah, go for it. I will you can go first Absolutely the game which I think would be absolutely perfect in high definition is Metroid Prime on the GameCube because that was 2002 I think maybe and it looks pretty good, but I think if you update textures some of the environments in that game are just Really good for GameCube. Yeah, you put it in HD and it would just blow people's minds across the room. I feel like Metroid You know with with other em and Federation Force is on a tricky path at the moment I'm not saying that Metroid Prime would turn that around but maybe it would turn them in the right direction Not necessarily say make more prime games just kind of make better Metroid games would be nice And if you want to start with something remastered Metroid Prime it's a good place to go Yeah, I never thought of that. I'm choosing a GameCube game as well Super Mario Sunshine That was my second choice. I really think that game. Yeah, I really think that game would look amazing in HD I mean any a GameCube game or N64 game remade in HD. I'm sure it would look great But for some reason Super Mario Sunshine just sticks out in my mind. I mean, it's an amazing game I'd love to see it remade like an HD for the NX that would be awesome Okay, so my game I don't know if it counts But I know that Nintendo at least owns the name so I think they own the IP rights to it Now I know I just lost the name it literally just came to my mind. It's a horror game. Name some characters Eternal darkness Eternal darkness, okay Yes, it was it was made by Silicon Knights But Nintendo licensed it so like Nintendo paid for it and published it So it is a Nintendo controlled game I believe which is why Silicon Knights never made a sequel or anything else because Nintendo didn't give them the right to It was a very very good game. I Know that there was a Kickstarter project like last year the year before We're Diak and some other people tried to like make another game that was similar to it Don't even know if that game still happened anymore, but I Would love to see it brought back because I do feel even though there's been a large indie movement push towards making quality horror games There still isn't really a big triple-a Horror experience that consistently hits Hmm. Yeah, so if there is gonna be a game that I want to see brought back It would be eternal darkness as a way of reintroducing Nintendo fans to what a good horror game is and then you know, hopefully you know building off of that and Bringing some more regular. I know they had was it the fatal frame And we you and that was kind of a horror game. I think it actually is a horror game Yeah, yeah The Blackwater Maiden, but like it's that's a very different type of horror game Yeah, Maiden of the Blackwater Yeah, and that's a very different game than what eternal darkness was like bring eternal darkness back and kind of continue Trying to revive that horror genre because it kind of disappeared Because marketing people told them that people don't want to buy those games people want guns despite the fact that when when Resident Evil when Resident Evil was a horror franchise. It actually sold really really really well But you know marketing people you only buy online multiplayer shooters. That's all people play these days But yeah, so that's the game I would like to see I mean I could list off a zillion Nintendo games But like every game I think of that I want to be remastered are games That are in series that are still going on and I'd rather just get a new game than worry about a remaster of it The one game I was going to go with Was like any of the F-Zero games As a way to bring F-Zero kind of back into the mainstream or any of the Wave Racer games Because I don't know why Nintendo decided to dump the racing games besides Mario Kart it was weird but Yeah, a lot of games I kept thinking of were like totally third-party like oh, I want to see Rogue Squadron come back Good game good game Banjo and Kazooie even though Banjo. Yeah, I mean, you know, I know I know those games like kind of the sort of remade on Xbox but Yeah, that's that's where I'm at anyways so Thank you Derek Jolly for your question