 for me when I'm working and again I'm talking from a small business side it appears that some program offices are more favorable to small businesses than others. Can you do you do you know anything about that or have you experienced that in any of the teachings with some of the buying officials? Yeah so even with the like when I was with the F-35 you know you you typically think of F-35 contracts Lockheed Martin not really getting any small businesses involved and right and so on but that's not necessarily true because before Lockheed Martin when that won that huge contract to build the F-35 and they had they had to have submitted a subcontracting plan to get small businesses involved because you know small businesses everyone realizes that they're really the backbone of the economy and so we would still require our large businesses to submit a subcontracting plan to at least subcontract a percentage typically five to ten percent of that total contract value to small businesses whether it's you know services and assembling or possibly supplies for just certain parts that are going to go in that but yes we still even even with the very large programs where you think oh yeah this is sole source major weapons system we still have a very organized effort to get small businesses involved. Okay okay okay and and I've heard about the subcontracting plans before you guys you teach that obviously since you teach everything acquisition you teach how to review them what to look for things like that there's courses on that yes okay okay okay now and again I've heard of that you know we've all heard about the subcontracting well not we all but I've anyone who's read or taken a look into some of the larger content we've read about the subcontracting plans but again it's just always something that I I want to ask to reassure small businesses out there that these things happening because the perceived though the perception is that like you just said they get this large contract that's sourced to them and they're taken away like the dollars are not going back into like you said the backbone of America the small businesses yep okay