 Hey everyone, welcome back to the Nintendo Prime Podcast, episode 106, holy crud has it been a while. Yeah. Alright, I'm your host as always, Nathaniel Rumpeljanz, join to my left and you're right by. Eric Moore. And man, oh man, I need to apologize, um, primarily to our patrons more than our other viewers, since they are the ones that made this podcast a weekly show and we haven't been weekly for the past two weeks. We've been actually pretty good in 2019, uh, 2018 we had some blips here and there, but we never really missed two in a row, it was always just one, um, but I have just not been feeling well, um, some of you guys already know this, um, you know, plus Eric incredibly busy, that's just life, uh, but in general it was mostly my fault that it didn't happen, uh, just too tired and worn out and sick and I had food poisoning for a little bit there, uh, that I suffered through and it's just, things weren't lining up, but the nice thing is I'm mostly good now, although I think today I came down with a cold, so yeah, it's one thing after another, but see it's day one of the cold, so it's not that bad yet. Yeah. Yeah. But by this time next week, hopefully it's over, but knowing me, I mean, my daughter's first communion is coming up, so I'm gonna be, yeah, right, I'm gonna be just wreck that day. I don't know how I'm gonna get through it, but, um, this is also a sweet episode to come back on because we are on our road to E3. Eric's been secretly counting down the days for like two months. Just a little bit. Uh, how many days away are we now? I don't actually know. It is less than 30. It is less than 30. It is less than 30. Technically, what are we like, at the time of recording, at the time of recording, it is like 30 days away from like June 11th, but we're not leaving on June 11th. Obviously, we're getting the heck out of here. We fly out on the 6th to go to E3 because everything really starts with EA Play on the weekend. Which we still need to register for. Yes. They actually just put up the registration. Okay, perfect. So we're fine. The EA Play stuff, and then Nintendo's Smash Brosn's Platoon tournament as well on that weekend. So we got to get down there for the weekend, even though we're not planning to attend the Smash and Splatoon tournament, because Microsoft is running their perager press conference on Sunday. Of course they're. Well, that's, you know, we're doing EA Play on Saturday. Yeah. Well, yeah, I figured that. I mean, it was probably only FIFA anyways for Nintendo. Yeah, probably. Like it was last year. Yeah. And we'll just be able to get even better footage that we're not supposed to have. Yeah. Unless they kick us out. We're too working. At least look at it this way. We got the footage. We got the footage. We're going to destroy my phone. Yeah. All right. It's automatic. Make sure I turn automatic cloud back upside. That's what I was thinking. That's exactly what I was thinking. Anyways, I really don't care if I get kicked out of EA Play. It's okay. Right. That being said, yeah, it's going to be a lot of fun. We fly out on the 6. Our trip might begin on the 5th, kind of in the afternoon, because we were probably going to be at a hotel, because our flight's just like 6 in the morning or 6.30. 7.30, I thought it was. I don't know. I think we fly out at 7.30ish. It's early, so we're just going to drive over to the city. We spent the night, parked the car, and no water thing. We still got to wake up early anyways. Right, right. But at least we can get a little more sleep, and we don't have to do an hour and a half drive. We don't have to leave here at like 2.30am. And it's not even an hour and a half drive, because it's an hour and a half drive. Then you've got to go to the place to park your car, and then you go park your car. See, we're already done. Yeah. We just wake up, grab our stuff. Well, no, what we'll probably have to do is, that morning we'll go park the car. We'll go check in. Maybe. I don't know. Guaranteed. Because it's a one package thing. Yeah. Guaranteed to park and just shuttle it right in the way of the morning. Yeah. Anyways, we'll figure it all out. I'm not really that worried about it, but man, it's going to be the earliest we've ever been in L.A. Yeah, yeah, definitely. So yeah, we had to L.A. early this year, man. Yeah. Like, we did arrive on Saturday last time. I think so, yeah. Yeah, because I think we arrived on Saturday because we had one day of E.A. play that we could go to, but I didn't go because of the press conferences on Sunday. Okay, yeah. So we must have. I think we arrived on Saturday. Yep. Yep. Because then we got our badges, which took a little bit, and then by the time we were all settled, we couldn't really do E.A. play that day. Right. And you know what really sucks is that last year there was a press conference. We could have gone to the E.A. press conference this year if there was one. Yeah. Got the connects, but there's not an E.A. press conference, so we don't get to go to it. Not that I'm saying we necessarily want to be there, and I'd probably live stream it anyways. Yeah. Who knows if Eric wanted to get the press conference experience in person. Do whatever it takes. We go get your free swag and sit back and enjoy it. You mean like, like I do walking around E.A. play? Yeah. I don't know. To be fair, I don't know. I didn't go last year, so I don't know. Yeah. Yeah. They mean. Handle free swag. Yeah. And a couple of copies of a couple of free copies of men. Yeah. The old versions of it. But I mean. I mean, whatever. Theoretically. It's still something. Yeah. Sunglasses, tote bag. Yeah. Yeah. It's a swag fast. Plus, did they have things you could buy in there too? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Of course they do. So anyways, yeah, man, like this is the earliest we've ever left one because I wanted to make sure we both went to E.A. play this year. I got like our full day there. Two, because I know on Sunday the press conference to start. And three, I want a day of rest before the big, because like literally every time we've gone it's hit the ground running right away. Yeah. The first year that we went back in 2016. God, that was, that was rough. That was, we arrived on Monday, but it was like Monday. So it was probably on Tuesday by the time we actually got in, like 1 a.m. Yeah. Yeah. And literally Tuesday is when E3 begins like, and we had hardly any sleep and just slammed it for like three days and got the hell out. And granted, that's the cheapest way to do it. Yeah. But it's also, it killed me. So we said, no, not doing it this time. Well, then we forgot about E.A. play. No. I don't know if we, I don't know if we really forgot about E.A. play. I don't think we ever really thought about E.A. play. We didn't register for E.A. play until we got there. Oh, no, I know. But I, like I said, I don't know if we actually forgot about E.A. play. It was, we didn't know, necessarily think about it at all. No, we didn't even know about it. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So we didn't forget about it. No. I forgot because I knew initially and then I forgot. Oh, I didn't forget because I never knew. You're also like, well, it's just this. Oh, there's that. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Because I'm like, oh, we'll get there on the weekend instead of like on Monday. Right. We'll give ourselves a day of rest or that's what I figured. On Saturday and then even Sunday, even if I stream press conferences. Right. It's not that. It's like half the day still a day of rest. Right. The pool go, you know. Oh, the pool of healing. The pool of healing. Oh, that pool had magical powers, man. I'm telling you it did. I have never had my knee pain go away in anything I've ever been in but that damn pool. That pool had real massive, massive magical powers. I mean, besides healing, I mean, I talked to an attractive girl there too. I mean, that pool had magical powers. Sure. Put it this way. That's just that you talked to her. She wanted to talk to you. Yeah. That's the magic. Actually, well, it was more she started the conversation. Dude, so that's crazy. She did. Yeah. What have I been telling you all these years? You got to find a way to be like me and make the girls come to you. Yeah. If you go after them, I don't have zero success on that. But then coming after me, God, I'm like six for six. Let's go. Yeah. Well, anyways, setting all that aside, we will actually have an arrest because there isn't a press conference on Friday. I mean, besides the fact that we get there at like 10 a.m., 11 a.m. at Thursday? Well, I still don't count the first day we arrive as an arrest. Right. Because you get a pretty good press badges. Or our car. Our badges, car, check into the hotel. Sure. We'll have a little more time. We're not going to be like, oh, we'll get that all done and it's now 5 p.m., 6 p.m. Yeah. It'll be more like three. Actually, we probably can't check into three. So we'll probably have to bum around for a little bit after the badge and get some lunch and then check in. But either way, then we get, you know, then we're checked in and I'll have everything set up by like 5 p.m. And then we can actually relax. Yeah, right. Go swim. Yeah. Maybe actually watch a movie there instead of just having it out in the background while it's working. What? Actually get, well, you got to watch it. I didn't get to watch it. Yeah. I'm going to watch it. Dumb and Dumber. Yeah. I love Dumb and Dumber, but I can't watch. Yeah. But yeah. So it'll be nice. And then Friday, because there's no press conference, that is like my relaxed day. Like, I don't know if I'm going to do anything in particular. I know I'm going to the beach. Oh, yeah. I actually want to go to the beach and actually enjoy it for more than 30 seconds. Yeah. I'm not saying that I'd be there all day. Half hour, hour. Like, and not just because it's someone lost a bet. Yeah. Don't remind me. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's coming up. Can't do ocean water this time. No. I don't know. I got to figure out another punishment. I don't know what. Oh, I guess if you want to throw it hard because you have it. You have an iron stomach. So it's hard for me to think about food. Right. Right. If you want to throw out the punishment ideas, I guess the comments. Yeah. We do a betting special. We do a betting special every E3. And he's lost every single one of them. But the thing is, he's barely losing them. Like they are coming down to like the last question. This last one, this last weekend on the second to the last, and then I got it. And then it didn't matter what happened with the last one. But still, like for it to come down to that, it's like every time it's like down to the wire. And I don't know how we're going to do the betting specialist things. I haven't even thought about it yet, but we'll figure it out. Last year, we had a patron do it, read the questions and all that stuff. So we'll see what happens this time. Who knows? Maybe I'll actually have the patrons come up with all the questions for this time. Yeah. Yeah. Because then we don't know. And I can't like rig it towards stuff that maybe I know that Eric doesn't know or anything. You've got time to research stuff too. Yeah. So we'll see about that. All right. Let's get into our actual topics for this first week of our road to E3. We got some juicy ones. The first topic, oh boy. Nintendo has unveiled their plans for E3. I'm surprised. It's pretty much the same as they do every year. Wow. Who knows? Original. June 11th at 9 p.m. It's not CT. PT at 9 a.m. Yes. I wrote 9 p.m. I don't know. I know what time it says. You are. 9 a.m. PT. They are doing a Nintendo Direct and they are calling it a Nintendo Direct. It's not a digital. Holy cow. Or anything. They're actually just going to say, hey, it's a Nintendo Direct. Well, yeah. It's always been a Nintendo Direct. You just kind of called it something else. Yeah. An E3 digital or that sort of thing. Whoa. It's a Nintendo Direct. So the first E3 under Shintaro Furukawa and we are getting a Nintendo Direct at E3. So there you go. There you go. No details on how long it is or anything yet. They may not give us any details on that. You presume it's at least a half hour, maybe 45. We'll see. Usually it's the longest Direct of the year. Last year was like 20 minutes of Smash in the 15 minutes of other stuff. Yeah. This is going to be interesting because they mentioned, they say this every year by the way, but it's going to be 2019 titles only. Now we're caveat. They say this every year and then they still show off titles for the next year. So it doesn't really mean anything. So don't expect it. They're tempering your expectations. Yeah. But they do it every year. So it literally means nothing. It means you are primarily going to see 2019 games. And I think that's a given. Yeah. I mean, think about Super Mario Maker 2 comes out later that month. Yep. Marvel Ultimate Alliance. We've got G's. Luigi's Mansion. Animal Crossing. I mean, just stopping right there. They need a Pokemon Sword and Shield. I mean, the list goes on and on and on town for crying out loud. It's still slated for 2019. It's still slated for 2019. I haven't seen anything in it. Maybe E3 playable. It's just Damon X Makina. The list goes on. There's so many games. So yeah, we're going to see all those games. I bet we'll see practically all of them. If we don't see Animal Crossing, then I'll be scared because it's probably delayed. But we're going to see everything. They have coming this year for sure. And then they'll tease probably at least one or two things for next year. That's my guess. Now that's what's happening at 9 AM. I will be live streaming it because again, we have gamer passes this year, which means we can't actually get in. So basically, I stream it. We chitchat a little bit after it's done. And then Eric and I leave and go get in the line, the public line to get in. Or eat and then get in. I can't remember what we did last year. We had kind of plenty of time. But I do want to be more towards the front. One thing we do have to sign up for, and this is something I forgot to put on here, is they replaced the Smash Pass that we can sign up for last year with Warp Pipe. Warp Pipe. The way they describe Warp Pipe is based on the Smash Pass where you go and you sign up and you play a game without like waiting in line. You have like a set time, which as we learned, it really isn't a set time. It's a time when you can get in line to play and you're in a VIP line. So basically they cut off everyone else and you get your own things to play on. That's what it was with Smash Pipe. Maybe it will be different this year and they'll actually do the set times and you'll actually play at your set time. I don't know. But they made it sound like you'll be able to use the Warp Pipe Pass to play multiple games. That, as me, is very interested. Now, the fact it's called Warp Pipe, I think it's Mario. So I think their theme last year was Smash. The theme this year is going to be Mario Maker 2. I just said it's Mario Maker 2. Is there any other Mario games coming out? Not that we're aware of. There could be someone announced. All I know is it's called the Warp Pipe Pass and they made it sound like multiple games you'll be able to use with it. So that'll be nice. What was nice about the Smash thing is we got Smash done right away. We were done. So it'll be nice to see what we can skip lines for. I'm really hoping that Pokemon Sword and Shield are part of it. The only problem is a lot of times you can't cop footage of that. I don't care. I know. No, it's great for reactions and impressions. Well, hands on impressions. For sure. And no, no. There was only Let's Go. They won't let us get footage. We don't know about this. Yeah. They might let us get footage of Sword and Shield. I don't know. And if they don't, let's just be honest. The way that everything is displayed, you can sneak getting footage of other people. You stand 30 feet back and you zoom in. Well, if I can get my camera in, I can definitely stand 30 feet back and zoom in and get really good footage. Yeah. I'll just pretend. Yeah. All I gotta do, especially if I get the tripod. I'll just stand off to the side a little bit. You just zoom past my head. I'll just be like, hey, you just act like you're talking into this fake mic. Yeah. And I'm just gonna actually be zooming in and recording. Right. Anyways. Right. And the thing is Nintendo doesn't actually strike anyone for doing it. They just, it's weird. I don't, again, the thing to remember about Pokemon though is it's not Nintendo's rules. Right. It's the Pokemon Company's rules. They don't want people getting footage of it for some reason. That's the way they were with Let's Go. I think they'd be less away with this one. Who knows? I think they're gonna have more demos this time around. I would hope so. So they might not be as restrictive this time. Yeah. We'll see. We don't know we're not there. Whatever. You guys saw, I got like a minute or so footage up anyways before they yelled at me. So, yeah, I'm not really too worried about it. Besides, you just have to kind of, oh, I'm just getting the whole, I'm just getting the whole thing. Great. Stop for a second. And then just keep going and come back. And then splice it all together in the end. It all looks good. All right. So there's some trickery you can do to get around some of the restrictions. And for some reason they don't get mad at you for it. So we'll see what happens. Well, the thing is with a media pass, I don't, who knows? Because then you get in before everyone the first two days. And then maybe their rules are a little different for just media, but we don't know because we haven't had media pass since they started putting the restrictions on. Well, we never, we're at E3 with a Pokemon. Our first E3 was Zelda only. Yes. All right. So that is an interesting thing. On the eighth and ninth, we mentioned before, they got the Splatoon 2 and Super Smash Bros. tournaments. They're a conclusion of the tournaments they've been running kind of all year. So teams from, I think it's the U.S., or I should say North America, and then Europe. I'm forgetting some of Australia. And there was a combination of two other countries, France and something. I don't know. Anyways, that's happening. And that's going to be really fun. They were really entertaining last year. I remember I didn't live stream them the last time. Who knows? Maybe, the thing is, I won't be streaming anything on the Saturday. Guaranteed. We're doing the A-play. Priority is, for us, is games that you guys can't play that we can go hands-on with. Hands-on impressions and footage. That is the most important part of this entire trip, in my opinion, because you guys can watch the same live stream that I could be reacting to at home. You can't play the game. So I want to, that's our focus. So, for sure, maybe on Sunday, if things fit between press conferences or before press conferences, maybe I'll stream reactive. I'm just chilling at the hotel all day, which I did last Sunday, so I'll probably end up doing it again this Sunday. I mean, basically, I spend a lot of time at the hotel, because I'm always editing and doing stuff. But that's what's going to be earlier. I get out of the hotel on Friday and enjoy some of LA. I mean, you'll get out of the hotel on Saturday. Just no Hollywood sign tours. Yeah, no. No, not worth it. Not worth it. I don't even care about seeing it anyway. I can see it from a distance. I'm good. Yeah. But you probably still see it from a distance. Yeah. Yeah, you don't get very close to it. Yeah. It's obnoxiously. All right. Now, besides that, they're going to have the Nintendo Tree House live, of course, all three days. Again, same thing every single year. What is cool is they did say Nintendo Switch Software only. So 3DS, you are finally dead. Well, maybe. No, it is. They officially announced at the last financial meeting that they have zero new titles in the works for 3DS. Holy cow. Wait. Oh, I suppose because of the new Switch. That's them. They said there'll be new third-party titles. That means if Nintendo is done, it's done. So they are done. Switch mini is coming out then. Well, they did also know it would be software only shown. So I think they're trying to squash any expectation of hardware. Again, can you believe it? No. No one knows. Yeah. But if you take Nintendo's word, no Switch Pro, no Switch Mini, no new hardware revisions being shown. That's what they're saying. So that's what we got to go with. Yeah. So that doesn't mean they can't show up before E3 because then it wouldn't be a new showing of it. They could just have it at E3 but not talk about it since they already showed it. Yeah. Or they can show it later. Well, they can have no revisions coming. But the fact that they say software only lets you know that, wait a second, why would you have to know software only if there isn't new hardware? So Nintendo's kind of like, oh, hey, I mean... Hint. Hint, hint. Like, hey, we have something to talk about. We have a little morsel. Dangle, dangle. Yeah, we have a little morsel to talk about. You know what? Not at E3. No. Not at E3. We'll let Xbox... So why would we do that? We're two buddy buddy with Xbox. So they're having their hardware stuff. We're going to let them dominate. That's cool. We're going to get the hardware stuff and the hype. And we're just going to bring the games. We're just going to game you up. We're going to hit you and beat you over the head with games and shove them so far up your ear end that they're coming out your esophagus. Yeah. Around your ears. I don't know. Whatever. Whatever. Your ear holes are higher up, I guess, in your body. Yeah. So sure. Come knock your eyes. Come knock your eyes. Why not? So yeah. That's their schedule. That's what's happening with Nintendo. Now, as always to note to people, that's just Nintendo. There are a whole bunch of other press conferences happening that could have games that are going to be on Switch. Guaranteed Just Dance is going to be on Switch again and they'll have a thing like that at the Ubisoft press conference as always. I'm wondering if they're going to have another stage. It could be Bethesda planning the show of Doom. We know that. And we know that's coming to Switch. So there's a lot of other stuff to pay attention to at E3 and we'll be talking about that as we continue down our road to E3. But it's only appropriate that the first week on our road to E3, we just mentioned the Nintendo stuff. Yeah. And that's really all we're going to do is mention. Just go over the schedule and kind of move on because in future weeks we'll be talking about more specifics, expectations, predictions, and all that. Weeks that happen. Weeks that end up happening. Because, you know, that generally just tends to what happens. But there is one thing we're going to talk about. One game that we're pretty certain is going to be there, especially now because our second topic, what is it about, Eric? Oh, that would be Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. First preview is out. Yes. The Black Order. I think it was GameSpot or Game Informer. I can't remember. Informer. It was a Game Informer. Yes. Okay. They got to be basically the debut of actual gameplay. We've got, what, seven minutes of real gameplay. And throughout it they're just explaining how the game works. And Eric's Facebook, that's how these... I know. They're just explaining how the game works, you know? It's the third one. Just because you know. It's the third one. But the second one was a long time ago. Yeah, I know. I know. And this is Switch Exclusive. You know how many people have never played it who are... Probably a lot. Yeah. I know, but it looks like... Know your audience, Eric. I get that. I mean, I understood what they were doing, but at the same point I was like, is there like, you can do this. I'm like, so Marvel Ultimate Alliance. Okay. All right. So I'm going to let you kind of leave this topic because you've actually played the games. And I've never had. So how did the gameplay look in this? Gameplay looked almost identical to the old stuff. If you haven't seen it, I definitely recommend it. Go back, play the old stuff. Ultimate Alliance, Ultimate Alliance 2. Ultimate Alliance 2 isn't, in my opinion, isn't quite as good as... It's not just your opinion. It literally has like a 50 rating on... Yeah. It's not terrible. They took out a lot of the RPG elements that made one fantastic. Okay. What kind of RPG elements are we talking? Basically, you know, you could choose different moves and you can level up those moves and, you know, power ups and everything like that. Okay. And then they cut down massively on the list of stuff that you can get. And it actually kind of sounds like... Well, it sounds like each character has four abilities. Which I guess is because there's four buttons, four face buttons. Right. But there was a list of like a good... I don't know how many it was. Well, it sounds like that is something they kept from two is a little bit more limited abilities. Like you only have the four. Each character has the four. But they did say other things too though. Like there's something like talent trees and stuff where you could gain different types of weapons that might not change your abilities but change it for your attacks. Right. Right. But that's been part of the other things as well. Was that in two? Yup. As well. Jewelry, stuff like that. Just been trinkets, trophies, stuff like that. That gave you different power ups to certain... Certain characters, certain... Not necessarily certain characters, sorry. Certain like abilities, certain traits of your character. And how that works in flow. And you know, you find your best fit of your trinkets for each character and try to build it up that way as well. So yeah, I mean that's... It's a normal gameplay for Ultimate Alliance. Gameplay looks like a Ultimate Alliance gameplay. Which is very notable too by the way because this is made by a completely different studio. Yeah, it's got the same feel. Completely different studio. So to even get that feel I think is important when it's a completely different team. The one thing I did hear them say that I was kind of disappointed in is you can't grab and throw enemies anymore. That was always fun to just grab a hold of these guys. Well I was wondering if... Throw them off the edge. I was wondering what gameplay differences... I bet you there's probably other middle of my new things like that because this is being made by Team Ninja. And they've never made a game like this. Like this style before. And as I was watching the gameplay and I kept thinking you know what this reminds me of a lot. Kind of Sea Warriors. It literally like you switch between characters. Like I think they said three or four at once. Four at once. Yeah, whatever it is. It's four total. You're one of them. So you have three others. Whether it's friends or AI characters. And you can do that in the Warrior games. You can switch between different characters and they're always super powerful compared to the enemies. And so I'm watching it like this just feels like a Warriors game. It kind of is. So it is... In a way it kind of is. How does it differ? Because the way that people look at Warrior games is basically really easy. There's hardly any challenge. And every level basically feels the same a lot of the times in Warrior games. Yeah. No, that's where this kind of differs a little bit. The levels don't feel the same. It is a lot of hack and slash. There are parts that can be hard but depends on how leveled your character's at and where you're at in the game. Some things can be super easy. Some things can be relative. Not hard per se, but not like, oh my God, I'm just walking through these like... Well, that's why they were doing that in the trailer or in their footage. Look, they were just destroying everything. Right. But a lot of their gameplay was early gameplay. Well, yeah, that is notable because it sounds like they're going to have a whole preview leading all the way up to E3 or something. Like next week they're doing a... It was character profiles. Character profiles, yeah, next week. But that's just next week. What's that? I don't know. I don't know. It wasn't just next week. It was like a... I think they said 12 or 14 character profiles. Well, yeah, it's a total of many characters that they're allowed to show off. Yeah. Because for those that don't know, they probably have a review copy of the game or something and got rights to have the first preview. Kind of like IGN first. Like they got the rights for the first preview. And so they're allowed to show certain things along the way. Like they were allowed to show gameplay up to a certain point and talk about how the game works. And then next week they'll be allowed to do character profiles. And after that they'll be allowed to show me a little bit more after that. It just kind of goes on and on until they hit E3 and they just blow you out. So that's... And I don't mind them doing it for something like this. I think a lot of people would think, you know, when these kind of previews come out this early and you know there's going to be a lot of E3 about it, people worry that, oh no, there's going to be too much information out there. But I think in a game like this, I mean, what did we learn? We learned the base premise for the story. Which, surprise, it's based around the Infinity Zones. Who knew? In the Black Order. An MCU universe game built around the Black Order and the Infinity Stones? Man, I couldn't have told you that one. The Black Order is literally in the title of it. And the Infinity Stones are like some of the biggest things in all of Marvel. That's happening right now, yeah. That's not really a surprise. None of the characters are really that surprising. I remember when they initially showed it off, I said, wait, Wolverine, I'm like, yeah, that's actually, their X-Men are all Marvel Universe. They've just been in cinema, it's just been owned by different companies. They can't exist together. Technically, they will be able to soon. Yeah. Since Disney bought out the company. Right. Bought out the company. Right. So, one thing I did want to ask is, what's the character selection look like compared to what you played? There's a handful of, you were talking about Wolverine, and yeah, Wolverine's been in all of them. There's a handful of, it's a spattered around thing. They generally have groups, which again is in this game as well. So like the Avengers, the first Avengers, there's a Spider-Man group, there's a women of the MCU, apparently, in this one. That one's new, I think. I don't remember that one in the old ones. But as for character selection, obviously all of your Avengers cap, Thor, Hulk, Iron Man, have been in all of them. Yeah. Okay, I wanted to, I was asking about that because the Avengers is weird. Because... Once that I didn't actually see though, the Fantastic Four. Yeah, we'll lose that. I didn't see any of those. I almost feel like this is building heavily, like it has a series always kind of like built heavily off of the cinematic universe a bit. Because the big thing to remember is before Iron Man came out the movie, he wasn't like a huge character of Marvel. Right. Nor was Captain America, like these are known properties, but these weren't the popular characters at Marvel. Spider-Man was always like the biggest. The first one, if I remember right, there was a ton of Norse stuff, so Thor, and then they went into Neptune and it's a lot of Norse stuff. That was like the first one. That's kind of that story line there, that one. Second one, I don't remember a whole lot of story because they dumbed the story down quite a bit. This story, it could be good. It looks okay. The story is based on the Affinity Stones, which we just got wrapped up in the cinematic universe. It's them being spread all over the universe and trying to get them before the bad guys. It's basically pretty much like what happened in the recent MCU stuff. Then it's got all of everything they've shown is basically mainstays from the Norse. It starts off with Guardians of the Galaxy, which I'm not going to spoil anything with Endgame, but if you've seen Endgame, you'll know why that's interesting that it starts with the Guardians of the Galaxy crew. Then going to the Avengers, which again became big with the MCU. I know these characters have always been big long before there was a cinematic universe, but some of these characters that had line in these games, but these weren't the big characters before the movie started coming out. If I remember kind of timeline wise, I think the first one actually came out before a lot of the movies, I think. The only movie that might have been out back then was Iron Man. The first one wasn't really based a whole lot on the movies. I think the second one was based a lot more on the Avengers movie. Well, it makes a lot of sense. I think some people feel... Here's a question for you. Do you think it was a mistake for Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3 not to release in the same month as Endgame? A lot of people think that with the Endgame hype right after that movie, some people might be like, oh, what's next? Oh, hey, there's a new game. It could have been run along right alongside of it. That might have been a piece of idea. You released the game when it's ready. A lot of people felt that I taught you anyway. I thought maybe this was a lost opportunity for the game. I can see how that... Especially since it's exclusive and never been on Nintendo. Right. No, I could definitely see how that could be a missed opportunity. I think the game is hopefully going to be good enough and it's still... Do we have a release date for it? I don't remember at the time. I don't know. It's the summer. Maybe we're still going to be writing the tail end of the Endgame hype. So maybe that's kind of how they're planning that. Well, it's not just the... The one thing to remember... The Endgame of Endgame hype? The one thing to remember is the end of Phase 3 for the Marvel Cinematic Universe isn't technically Endgame. It's Spider-Man. Spider-Man, far from home. So it could release around there. Yeah, it comes out July 19th. So that is very close to Spider-Man. It technically has a chance to build off of the Spider-Man. The quote-unquote real ending of Phase 3, even though Endgame was kind of the ending of everything that had been built up to that point with the Infinity Stones. This is obviously... I think this is the end that's going to help set up the future. That's what I think is happening with that. Because there is still Phase 4 and the Marvel Cinematic Universe isn't done. Endgame wasn't the end of that round. The end of the Infinity Stones. I don't know if it will be the end of them forever. I'm trying to think back to the comics. I don't think the Infinity Stones were ever gone forever even when they were destroyed. Nothing in comics is ever gone forever. So... Anyways... It looks... Honestly, it looks good. I'm hoping it brings back a lot of the flavor from one. I'm a little tentative that it's not going to. Which... kind of stings. But... It's... That's kind of what I'm hoping for. Hoping for the best. Preparing for the worst. It's one of those things that you just can't get... You want to get overhyped for but you probably shouldn't. First impressions looks good. So, yeah. That's kind of where I met with that. Okay. What did you think on it? I know you said you felt a little bit Dynasty Warriors. I'm okay with it feeling that way because I enjoyed Hyrule Warriors and Fire Emblem Warriors. Dynasty Warriors fan. But any universe of characters I enjoy and I love Marvel. I'll definitely give it a shot and try it out. And we'll see where it goes from there. I think it's going to be a lot of fun. What I thought was interesting is they said the best because you could play like couch multiplayer with it. But they said the best way to play is for everyone to have their own switch and their own copy of the game. Which gets expensive. Yeah. If you have enough people to do that. More friends with switches. We'll probably I don't know if you're going to have it. I'm going to buy it. So we'll be able to do that and test it out. And then I could test out a single player playing with someone locally and then doing it also through the wider display. But it's going to be interesting and I honestly every time I watch it it's just like ok this feels like MCU and I love MCU so I'm in it. I was curious because I know you haven't actually played any of the prior ones. And I think the way they have this setup is it's almost like they know that a lot of people playing this might have never played the prior ones. So the story feels like you probably didn't need to play the prior ones. No. The second one didn't tie into the story of the first one. If it had a story at all. Yeah. I remember it not being very as good as the first one. Let's just hope that this is good. The first one's story was phenomenal and you learned quite a bit about the MCU. Yeah. We'll have to have hopes that sounds like they kept some of the maybe I don't want to call it dumb down but maybe casualized to make it more accessible. But well, honestly until we play it and go hands on, it's hard to really pass any sort of verdict based on seven minutes of gameplay with other people trying to tell us how it works. So it'll be very interesting and obviously you know that that is one game impression video that Eric's definitely going to have to get in on after E3 for impressions because he is way more of a veteran for this franchise than I am so in fact I'm not a veteran at all. You'll get the perspective of someone who's never played someone who has a lot. And normally it's the opposite way around. That's what I said it's going to be really interesting because Eric's basically going to be leading it because he knows everything and I know nothing. From what I can remember anyway. Well, you know way more than nothing. Next topic is actually interesting. It kind of sounds like the ESA is in trouble. For those who don't know the ESA is the group that runs and they also run the ESRB, so the ratings board. Those are the two big things they're known for but they're basically the Electronic Software Association handles trying to represent video game companies and gamers in general in the court system and the legal system and do a lot of lobbying and blah blah blah blah try not to get video games banned because they're violent. So that was kind of like the big thing back in the 90s and the 2000s but that's less of a concern these days obviously but there's other concerns. The concerns now seem to be about gambling and loot boxes. That's the big fight right now. But I mean there is still the violent video games make violent people claim there are still those. But enough scientific research has come out that I don't think it's going to happen in the U.S. anyways. Other places have actually put restrictions in place but the U.S. has been kind of I mean come on, have you seen the movies that are like come on. I'm pumped for the next Game of Thrones episode that's going to have way more violence than any video game I've probably played. That being said they have a lot of stuff going on. There was an article put up by Variety and Variety did a lot of research on this. They've been gathering this information for quite some time before the publication which by the way is the best type of investigative journalism in my opinion. Gather your sources and make sure you know what you're talking about. So I'm going to in the final version of this pack I just want to link to it down in the description for you to check out the full article. But I just got some bullet points things to go here. So through a whole bunch of internal polling that they discovered at the ESA the ESA is well aware that there is a lack of public trust in video games. And I think we've always known that. I think big name media sometimes has a lot to say with that because they don't portray gaming very well even today unless it's something to be fair Nintendo often gets portrayed pretty well. But a lot of gaming world is not portrayed that well. Even as Fortnite has become a sensation there's also like all these stories about Fortnite addiction. People get addicted to everything. So anyways and then it says E3 actually makes up about half of all of the revenue that ESA makes for the whole year. 48% What's interesting too is we found out that the ESA the ESA files as a non-profit. I didn't know that. A lot of companies files non-profits by the way so this probably isn't shocking because I guess there are I guess there are a public service company since they're representing gamers and game companies but whatever. And I always find it weird when a company calls itself non-profit when they make money. To be a non-profit I mean I know the idea is you reinvest all your money back. I get that but like even for profit companies do that so they don't have to pay as many taxes. They don't reinvest all of it. They take the profit out of it. Non-profits are supposed to reinvest everything that comes out. Any profit is supposed to go back into the company. But a lot of American companies and Donald Trump will know this you spend all the money that you make in profits. Sometimes just an increase in your own salary. Yeah. Right. It's actually really smart business to be fair and I don't blame anyone for doing it because that's the way the American economy is set up. Anyways, that's not even there. I don't really know the ins and outs of their non-profit stature. But what's interesting is there actually been internal conversations about splitting E3 away from the ESA. Who would run it? Well I assume what would happen is the ESA would split in half and then it would just be the because it makes up almost half the revenue. So half the company would just be we just focus on E3. And the other half works about everything else. Which I don't know how that works in standing up for companies and all the legal fights because obviously most of your money comes from but they obviously have other revenue because 52% comes from somewhere else. Right. I know that all the companies pay in and get their pass. I get it. They make money off it. That's the point. 48% of the revenue. I mean, for how expensive you think it is for them to host it? Oh yeah, they're making bank. And then to turn around and make 48% of the revenue off of that? They're making beyond bank. One three-day period in June. 48% of the revenue. That is nuts. There's other things that happen too. So but to get into the troubling part right, so we talked about, yeah E3, their thumb was split enough. Is that really a troubling thing? Probably not. Because they still have 52% of other revenue and whatever they obviously probably don't need the E3 revenue necessarily. Now, this is where things start to get a little sticky. Half of the executives of the company have left or were fired over the past six months. The former president, Mike Gallagher he left and or was like forced to leave. Seemingly because of his political stances he is very right-leaning it supposedly. Apparently a staunch Republican. I don't like how Variety frame things about him just because I hate politics and games. So yeah, he's very right-leaning and he had a sealed copy of a Trump video game in his office and apparently employees felt intimidated by that for some reason and it's like yeah, he supported Trump. He's a Republican, what do you expect? So I try to not care about this stuff, but it is important because a vast majority of the video game industry is left-leaning. So he was running the company that represents all these companies legally when he doesn't agree with those companies. So that was always a big problem because the ESA and the rest of the industry is clashing in what they want politically versus what he wants politically because this matters because the ESA lobbies politically. So what happened is there was a lot of bills I guess during the Obama era and this is what led to him being forced to resign that would have benefited a bunch of video game companies but he didn't really show support for it and he wanted to push for support for it. Not that he didn't show support for it, he didn't lobby. He didn't do what he was supposed to do. And then when policies came in that he felt would have been beneficial to the gaming industry that the other gaming companies didn't want he started lobbying for that and then that's when he was starting to get asked and that was after Trump became president. So again, it gets a little political there and we're never going to know the ins and outs because we're just hearing one side of the story but it is obviously something I've known for a long time. I know the video game industry, gamers in general tend to be really left leaning. I know this. That doesn't mean there's not Republican gamers. The point is that there was a clashing of ideals with a company that's supposed to represent gaming companies that felt like they weren't properly represented. So that's what led to that and probably is led to all these staff turnover. But the problem seems to be and this is why we're talking about it is they're still talking about E3 splitting off because the big thing is in spite of all the money they make from E3 they are consciously aware based on varieties inside sources like the employees a whole bunch of employees at ESA know that E3 is actually failing. It's not failing making money but it's relevancy. E3 was the trade show and it still is considered the trade show probably more by name than anything else maybe. It's a reputation. Because think about Sony's pulled out ever first off Sony ever pulling out and that doesn't mean Sony won't come back but still Sony's not there because Sony thinks it can do better on its own. Microsoft is still there Microsoft is in its own space but they're a partner with the ESA so they're still making money off and granted last because Microsoft's using their own space but still Microsoft still wants to be associated with it. We need to get the bad part of it too this year. So there's a lot to so there's a lot of things with that and I guess the general feeling is they need to split E3 away from the ESA so they could try to figure out how to fix E3 because apparently all the ideas they have internally right now none of them have worked. They've tried they tried letting the public in and while that's making them a lot of money it has actually kind of pissed off a lot of them but it's pissed off the media although I think it's gotten better now with the hours that media get early access they extended the hours that media got early access for yeah it used to be like an hour now you get like two hours or three hours the first day two hours so you get five hours before any public people are let in you can get probably all everything you need to be done you need to get a chunk of it like they don't even let in the industry people like people have industry passes they don't even get in they get in with the public so literally media has given five unfettered hours we know you're in here just to cover this stuff so you're going to get good coverage and that's why we love to get media passes hopefully we'll have those next year so so I think that has I haven't seen too many complaints from the media ever since they did that last year or two years ago I can't remember what year they started it the year we went we had media passes it was the first year of public though we had media but it was the first year of public what 2016 and then I don't know if they made the change in 2017 or 2018 and the ESA tried other things too before they ever did this public and they tried having two events so then they tried having the private media event as always and then they tried a separate public event that just bombed out after one the thing is a lot of people felt like it could have worked just how they did it was not the right way to do it but the thing is though too is I can understand how two things won't work because are you really going to have it's pretty simple the reason that it failed in my opinion is because it was two separate events during different time frames at different locations they should have just kept this one event extended to five or six days first three days of media only last two days of public and that's exactly what I was going to say it was how many people are going to pay twice to come back at a different time you're already there, you're set up you have to pay all of your employees for that you have to pay for the floor space you have to pay for this, pay for that is it worth it to come back that second time and I think that might been where they screwed up if it's already done and set up yeah I think it could have worked yeah so it's they need to sort out how to keep themselves at the top and I don't know how they're going to do it well here's one way you just make sure that your your press conferences and anything that you provide for people to show videos and stuff in games often actually work taking a shot at U-Packs with the Borderlands trailers you have the sort of problem with these no I don't, that's what I'm saying you just don't do that and I felt a little bad for Gearbox because they, it wasn't their equipment it wasn't their fault, it wasn't their equipment because the venue, the guy running packs we have the equipment, you don't need to worry about it but the problem is that looks we're going to bring in our own stuff there's a whole contrary Randy picture right now too so we're not going to get into that but that, I mean that looks really bad on Gearbox even though it's not their equipment yeah it just makes, well and he rightfully was mad and should have been mad because I don't know how they can play it like it's just a video you're crying a lot play your phone in play your phone in they were using like Windows movie player movie player yeah DLC anyways so I guess this kind of goes right into the next topic which is how would we fix or change E3 if we could I don't, well first off what do we think is wrong with E3 why is Sony not there why are there complaints every year I don't know if it's necessarily what's wrong with E3 versus all of these other conferences starting to get a little bit bigger they're starting to grow quite a bit more that's my understanding of it right like PAX is starting to PAX is huge bigger than it's ever been right so the growth of those is so you think it's do you think this is kind of like the way it's going with physical games where maybe games that might be out of business in 5 years or whatever like it's kind of this inevitable there's nothing they can do not necessarily because everyone's realizing we can advertise games all year we don't have to just do E3 we can do our own digital things like now we have state of play from Sony Xbox Insider from Xbox Nintendo Direct we're going to say that E3 can't be saved can't be re-brought back to the glory of whatever but part of me is wondering too if it's not a saturation issue too we're getting over saturated by okay this game show this trade show now we have this trade show there's more of them popping up and starting to grow a little bit are we getting over saturated with I don't think so because like what trade shows can you even think of right now besides the other packs there's two packs okay whatever three east west itself bring one to Minneapolis or Chicago but here's the thing all the packs are pretty close to the same like when you see all the demos added they're like the demos are ready so they're still getting like secondary trick on the outside that doesn't mean they're not doing that it's all borderlands but that's not a norm right now and after what happened it might not be coming over right and I'm just kind of throwing ideas out here what might be not necessarily I don't know how to necessarily fix it but what is causing this to quote unquote fail slash diminish well as an example Nintendo didn't unveil switch at E3 first time they didn't unveil the hardware at E3 yeah Xbox one and PlayStation 4 were shown off before E3 they had their own separate media PlayStation 5 is likely to not even like it might get unveiled this year and E3 wasn't even part of any of it now it does appear Microsoft's going to use E3 for it but that's because nobody else is so why not I think they view it as well if no one else is going to do we're literally competing with no one and we have right millions of people watching exactly yeah that's a smart business move so while Microsoft is going to be going the more traditional route they didn't in the past with Xbox one and I wonder if that has a lot to do with it because I think a big thing about E3 is the games game games but there was always you never doing that hardware reveal was coming right you knew surprise now it's like well now it could happen anytime any direct could be it any state of play any you know PlayStation experience any play six minutes each year you have the game awards I mean I don't know the hardware if a hardware gets unveiled at the game awards that would be wild that would Jeff Keely you are killing it if you get hardware reveal right holy cruddy if you give you switch pro show of what game awards okay Jeff Keely Reggie's not even a Nintendo anymore so don't matter how much you talk him that's not how you made it work I just here's the thing in general I think the issue with E3 is more perception than reality I think there is a perceived notion that E3 is less than what it is because of the press conferences you know Nintendo doesn't do traditional press conference they do a digital conference Sony isn't going to be there at all in any fashion EA is not doing a press conference this year they are just doing their EA play thing and whatever so I think there is a perception issue more so than a reality issue because attendance seems to be doing just fine yeah you say yeah but we are just talking about when we are there they actually look at the actual numbers are they dipping or sinking or going up they are actually kind of stable so the attendance is fine the halls are actually more full now granted a lot of it is just some people selling stuff I think that is still better than empty I don't know how much it is going to be filled up this year with Sony being gone because Sony was I need those floor pans man the floor pans should be out here in about a week that would be nice to see I would be very curious I hope that Nintendo has got enough games they could use the space or at least half the space no just Nintendo you need a bigger booth half just make the Sony booth the Pokemon stuff and you will be good anyways I am just telling you how bad the lines were last year I mean 3 hour wait you had 8 it was 4 and a half it was 4 and a half for me you were there before me I waited twice I have to go back and watch the vlogs I have my timer in there so I think the problem with E3 is more perception than reality this is my 33 attend name I think what people forget is E3 is a trade show it is not press conferences press conferences have always been a big deal the ESA has welcomed them it has helped to hype up the event and I think that is why people put so much value on E3 is because you knew Nintendo even now Nintendo is doing it right you know Square Enix you know Ubisoft they are all still doing it so that is still a big deal but that is not E3 those are press conferences E3 itself is a 3 day event where media and gamers that pay get access to actually play hundreds of games that are not out yet that is what this show is that is what it has been so for me I get being disappointed at the press conference level but the trade show level seems just as strong as ever just know Sony this year that will be the only weird thing but again that does not mean Sony is never going to come back they are going to try something new and see what happens and if it does not work as well as the E3 they will be back in the next year and I think a lot of it is because I don't think Sony has a lot of games coming out this year I think they know I think they are Nintendo in 2016 where they know the next hardware is coming they don't have a lot of games coming and so Nintendo decided instead of leaving we will just hide people up for Breath of the Wild whereas they are like well we are not going to hide people up for test stranding or something for the 20 billion time when they come into PlayStation 5 so they are just going to wait till they are ready which will probably be by the end of this year or next year so honestly I'm not I don't think E3 has a problem at the level of the trade show itself I think the trade show is healthy as hell it's the press conferences and I don't think you can't force companies to do them and the way Nintendo does it with the direct is the most financially responsible way to do it and control the environment is huge in the past before they started doing their own type of press conferences weren't most of that stuff done in that same area not necessarily at their own studios they did it with not necessarily within the building the EA convention center or the LA convention center but close by like actually was it not done in a studio at Nintendo right I don't think they do all those now at the same theater at Microsoft doesn't at their theater their own theater obviously but other people don't at the Microsoft one there is a theater that's near E3 near the convention center for some reason I remember the Nokia theater being used a lot and that's down in Hollywood and that's my question though a lot of these things are kind of going away from live press conferences because of the I think for ESA what they're worried about is just the stature of E3 and they know the stature of E3 is what it is not just because of the trade show the trade show is incredible and we get a whole picture but that hasn't changed what's changed with the press conferences and they know that because of that the game announcements and the new game the relevancy seems to be a lot in the announcements and if you don't have the press conferences you don't have the announcements a lot of it aren't but isn't a lot of these starting to go away from live press conferences and stuff like that aren't a lot of the companies going away from that not necessarily you know what I'm saying they've been edited filmed like 3, 4 or 5 weeks early edited and then shown that way like for the Nintendo Direct but not really Microsoft's live Ubisoft's live everyone's live even EA who's not doing a live press conference they're doing like a tree house style thing and they're going to just announce all the things through that so Nintendo's the one doing pre-recorded there has been one other studio that did one Digital Evolver I think did a pre-recorded one once there are smaller one of the major companies Nintendo was the only one who did it and they're still the only one who did the pre-recorded to be fair for some companies they've kind of got it figured out Ubisoft every single year just shows really well at E3 it's like 5 years they always have some new IP that just blows people's minds and they've been killing it with Assassin's Creed lately it feels like the division and Watch Dogs they've just been kind of killing it so they kind of have a nice flow to their press conferences that seems to be working for them Bethesda has been like the king of the press conferences lately at E3 I don't know why they always do well it's always been like the Sony Microsoft and Nintendo ones that always seem to be the most embarrassing well EA that's what EA does not do in it this year but Nintendo Sony and Microsoft have always been kind of like a crap not even less than a crap shoot at E3 if it was going to be good or not Sony's live press conference last year was terrible they had an intermission yeah that's yeah they started off with like a 15 minute musical performance showed you 7 minutes or something of the last of us the next last of us boom 45 minute intermission to the point that the people that were trying to entertain you the intermission ran out of things to talk about I can't remind you all we're being totally ready soon we're still being totally ready well that's because you had to move your whole entire crowd it was a terrible thing and then on top of that that wasn't bad enough for Sony I'm not saying they didn't have some games that look cool the ghost of jishima that's really cool looking stuff but the pacing was off the 45 minute intermission was longer than the totality that they actually showed games and on top of that their live thing their version of Treehouse Live when we were on the show floor they had a huge screener we could sit down and just kind of watch it and I'm like this isn't very good they don't know what they're doing this is not and I'm wondering if that's part of the decision to pull out a little bit they try to be like look we're going to stick with Live Press Conference but we're also going to add a Treehouse aspect and they failed at both and so that's why I think we invested so much in that and everyone hated it so we just won't do it and that's fine I'm cool with that they're still going to do Live Press Conference like PSX has a Live Press Conference so they're still going to have it it's not a D3 so I think the big thing for EA they're just worried about Cloud has this idea or thought process of downward trend since Nintendo started doing digital okay how many years has that been last time they did a live one was Wii U before the Wii U came out so 2012 ooh jeez I was going to say I was just wondering if it was starting picking up steam because of the again with not that Microsoft pulled out but they kind of pulled out they separated themselves a little bit Microsoft's biggest issue with theirs has always been lack of exclusive games that's been Microsoft's biggest bugaboo every single year is they have a lot of impressive third-party games showed off but there's nothing exclusive and that was why they bought so many studios last year so it's one of those things that they should have a better showing this year just because they have more studios and they'll show some of those games probably for the next Xbox but but yeah you can't help the image of E3 if Microsoft again not pulling out but kind of separating themselves a little bit I understand the move I do and then Sony completely not being there Microsoft okay the original reason that Microsoft took their booth and put it in their own building wasn't even a money thing it was space there wasn't space which is weird because weren't they in the opposite hall of Nintendo but they didn't want to be here's their viewpoint you want to be in the main hall if you're going to be in the other hall there is some cool stuff in the other hall a lot of the big third parties are in the hall perfectly worth going to but if you're Microsoft and you're not in the same hall as Sony and Nintendo why not just have a whole building to yourself it's pretty much the same walk between the halls as it is to walk to there so like I mean it's not it's shorter to stay in the convention center but it's still Microsoft said look we want a giant space there's not room in there to have a third giant space so we're just going to move it to our own place here's the thing though ESA doesn't seem worried about that we're making this big they don't care they're making money out of it but the but the aesthetics of it I don't think the aesthetics don't matter it's close enough everything there's E3 live a whole event like they basically for those who don't know everyone thinks E3 is a convention center a seven block radiance it's everything E3 ads everywhere E3 live outdoor things happening and this isn't even going to EA Play which is a completely different area not even near all like it's crazy so like the Microsoft thing has its own little district and it all fits together so I don't really think ESA cares about that because they already they just said oh we get to own even more area sweet let's do it but because that just gives them more to sell ads and sell this it's fine I don't think ESA cares I think it is their primary concern is the relevancy of E3 being the conference that every gamer feels basically being gamers Christmas I think that's their word because there's all these other press conferences or all these other events that the games could come at three different packs it's maybe four or some days this isn't counting if they ever open one in Europe I don't know that so I think personally I think packs is a huge deal but it's just US they're just like I guess you can call them mini I would say mini E3 is probably more like a comic-con that blew up because packs isn't just video games so that's the thing about packs is like E3's distinction is we are electronic entertainment video games like you could be oh electronic entertainment you could argue that you can argue with movies and comics that's fine but guess what it's just video games so that is their like packs is everything video game video games there's other Tokyo game show or is it not Tokyo game show Tokyo whatever it's called gamescom is not huge and now they're having press conferences there too so like E3 isn't the only kid on the block anymore gamecom didn't exist like a decade ago I don't think and if it did it wasn't much before that the Tokyo game thing's been around for a while Tokyo game show's been around for a long while but I guess they never really worried about that because it was kind of like on the other side of the world right how much effect does it have it's not a huge deal and there's a lot of Japanese only games and heck Nintendo doesn't even go there you know they just have meetings it's weird right Nintendo doesn't go to deal it's not a 10 Tokyo game show they do they do meetings with companies behind closed doors there but they do not have boots or anything like it's really weird but I don't know why it probably goes back to some dispute at some point but yeah I honestly think that I here's the thing I don't think as a person who attends E3 there's anything wrong but as the outside looking and there's a lot of you guys out there that have told me that E3 is worse than it's ever been and this and that and I'm just like maybe I'm tainted because I go now so I honestly because I didn't go 10 years ago it could have been way more amazing I don't know I know as I go now and I think it's overwhelming how much crazy amazing stuff there is oh I know right it's always fun to go and this is just like one it's cool just to walk around oh yeah see what's new that's true of any major convention but it is cool just to walk around but like you legit you know in the past could just bump into Reggie randomly walking around you theoretically it has we haven't had it happen yet but others have bumped into Miyamoto we've come this close to actually getting to go play Breath of the Wild with Reggie we were standing in line and Tim Schaefer just stopped like four feet from us he was just talking on the phone and I'm just like sure went on like you got like E3 is crazy because here's the thing at other shows like big developers like I can't walk around the floor they'll get mobbed but at E3 it's like this understanding even if it's media and gamers that hey you can say hi but they're here to work so like Reggie's walking around don't feel hey Reggie but don't think he's going to stop for you don't get offended if he doesn't stop for you Tim Schaefer doesn't stop it's fine so it's one of those things that to me as someone who attends is something that is uniquely E3 is everyone's together and everyone's an understanding of what this is and it is a chance to meet YouTube celebrities it is a chance to meet I mean I ran into Bob Wolf so like it is a chance to meet a bunch of people that you normally want but it's also there's not going to be mobbing people if PewDiePie for example wanted to go or whatever and they're the biggest YouTuber in the world but even with him there it would be understood generally you say hi you would say hi but like he's there to work everyone's there to enjoy games these people aren't at the show it's cool that you bump into Angry Joe the first you were there we were within 5 feet of Angry Joe and you could say hi but it's understood that we're all here doing something you're on your way to something say hi maybe exchange a business card whatever if he has time to chit chat or if he recognizes you from something you do but it's just one of those things it's kind of understood that there isn't that mentality where I've heard in the past like Boogie2988 going to VidCon and you have to go around back corridors and this and that you can't go out in the middle of the floor it causes chaos but that's not the case at E3 I mean you could tell if somebody is around because the volume gets a little bit louder and everybody starts clamoring and whispering look at it but that's all it is though and I will say one thing they do that's really cool is you hate it sometimes but yet they have the security they have lots of security and they're just like can you move it and that helps as well it's kind of like hey look say hi but you guys better keep walking you're not going to stuff up traffic and prevent people from getting the stuff they're a little stickler about some things you know 70,000 people coming into the ambilane we were in the line for overcooked 2 last year and all of a sudden we turn around and there's the 10kade and the person that he I can't remember her name yeah the person that he does his stuff with it's just like oh hey how's it going yeah I said I was like you were I didn't recognize I don't know who they were they were literally right next to me you're not doing anything or they're both like what's up we're just chatting I mean I recognize you guys well they weren't sure at first they were like maybe oh Nintendo Prime that sounds familiar but because I had never communicated with them before they were aware of you like if we bump into a terminal babe again they know us of course they're gonna say I know all these people we've talked to but it's just a very fun event that way that's why to me when you tell me oh E3's like for me it's always been about the trade show even when I was still a gaming fan press conferences are great get hype get awesome but like dude ever since Nintendo started live streaming as just someone sitting at home I'm like hi E3 Christmas is now 3 straight days is that just a 45 minutes on a Tuesday and we still have press conferences to start on Sunday so it's like Sunday Monday Tuesday Wednesday it's Christmas like to me it's even more exciting in fact there's so many streams now so much stuff that like when I was at home just enjoying E3 I would have my TV back when they used to put it on TV on G4 well that's probably another reason why it's going down the hill it's on TV back on G4 anyways I'd have their thing up then you would have the IGN stream up and the games stream and I'll Twitch and YouTube gaming you would have all these different streams I would have legitimately like 18 different streams running at once because I'm just like okay which one's talking about something I care about this one's talking about too hit record and it's still like it's even worse now so to me to me it's like I don't think there's anything wrong I'm still like E3 is amazing but I get it because I think the ESA knows that without companies basically not revealing hardware anymore that's a huge loss compared to you always knew the new hardware will always be unvalidated always always always nope not now a major major major game may not be announced at E3 though too heck V8 and E3 I mean I can argue how major that is but V8 and E3 was announced at the game awards I mean Borderlands 3 again still not in that step at E3 you know that's a big game so there's a lot of things to consider I don't know I'm actually curious what your guys' ideas that's exactly what I was thinking well actually first off tell me what you guys think is wrong with E3 yep and then what you think can be done to fix it no I come from the perspective of I'm basically media and I love it and I don't maybe that's the thing I'm biased I don't know I've been covered in E3 for so long I don't find myself any less excited for it than before and I know I attend now so I guess that's a whole new level of excitement but it's I don't know I mean guys do you know how many videos we made off of E3 last year actually quite a bit what do you mean we've vlogged every day well we have the daily vlogs and the gameplay and the hands-on impressions those are all guaranteed stuff we're going to do again and like holy crud there were so many games we didn't even get to them all my fault because of the badge because we didn't get to go into that one part of the Sega booth where they had Valkyrie Chronicles 4 and stuff like that so it's my bad that we did not actually get gameplay and hands-on of everything we were that close we would have if I didn't screw it up we would have got that done and we would have time to go to Microsoft but I not this year bad check before we leave every check every check maybe it's one of those things that we just wear our badges coming out of the hotel instead of throwing them in the trunk no not put anything in the car no when we transport our stuff we threw everything in the trunk so we never we just assumed it was in the bag that's why I think when we just grabbed our bags I brought everything back to the hotel I know but in the morning when we grabbed our bags to walk out the door we were thinking the pass was in the bag I never put the pass in the bag why would I put the pass in the bag because you know you're going to grab the bag to go out the door so then you know you have your pass I didn't forget my pass I put mine in my bag I didn't forget my pass I'm just going to sleep in the thing there you go just never take it off just go swimming in it go do everything in it yeah now it's the whole time so I can like undo it and then kind of go behind the edge do I shave or not shave if I don't shave I can just glue to the hair and then I can just lift the hair off or there that's the punishment a waxing punishment ooh ooh and it had to be the full check you can't just leave one strip what can you but still I mean come on I'll tell you what if I lost and it was a waxing the whole thing I just got the man up because I let you just rip one strip and just leave it as a big red streak across my chest and not have that's why it's a punishment it'll still look hilarious it'll all be on camera fine you're right the rest I do for my pleasure you do it once a month hey I don't know please do not suggest that you can suggest it doesn't mean that it's going to happen it's going to be a loss anyways thank you guys for tuning in to the nintendo prime podcast be sure to check us out on patreon.patreon.com for $5 per month you get one day early access to the audio version of the podcast for $10 a month you get to 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