 There's something on, like how did you ever get over the snowfall thing and how they, you know, how they sidestepped you and did it help? Did it hurt? Did it, the reputation wise? I mean, you know, it helped in a way and it hurt in a way. You know, it helped in a way because now they know black television shows of that genre makes money. Yeah, yeah. It hurt because they say, oh, your story been told already. Mm-hmm. So I say, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, my story ain't been told. That was only a piece of it, yeah. It's a lot more than that. It's a lot more than six years. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The fall lasted six years. It's a lot more than six years of me. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. They may not say, you know what? I appreciate what he did for me. We'll make sure he get his too. How did you determine who you would front to? Well, you know, it's a numbers game. But I was just saying, how would you determine? Because the person, he comes to you. He wants to be front. Well, the first thing I would do is try to make sure they're not smoking dope. That's the most important thing. That's the most important thing. Yeah. Whether you front of somebody and smoke dope, they ain't gonna smoke it. That's right. That's so true. Now they might start off a little while and make some money, but eventually the dope gonna catch up with them. So that would be the first thing. Then I would look for guys with a temperament like mine. Guys who maybe down on they luck, maybe didn't do well in school, but maybe with a great athlete, those guys are always good. Yeah, yeah. They just gotta be trained. A lot of times it comes down to what you know and who you know. And when I say what you know, because what you know can get you a long ways. If you're good at what you do, if you're good at your trade, you can come into place and if you're smart, like me, I'll come in and I'll be like, I work for free. Yes. You ain't gonna pay me nothing. They said. Teach me the game. Teach me the game, coach. Who you know, now you know somebody, good person and they willing to train you. That's another way to get in. I thought about if somebody knows, when you say who you know, meaning if somebody's already connected to you and they bring that person and say, hey, this is my friend, he, you know. Yeah, that's the same thing. Same thing. Yeah. That's a level further away than if they come straight to me. Yeah, yeah. But if he's, a lot of time what happens, if people say you front this guy or whoever, this person, he's gonna have people that he's dealing with. And as he get more loyal to them, or if he comes up on a level, he may come bypass them or find a way to get to you because he's trying to figure out a way to connect to the source. Right, well that's always, that's always everybody trying to get to the source. Everybody trying to get to the source. I'm trying to get as cheap as I can and as good as I can. So, and that should be with any business you go into. Wow. Yeah. Get it as good as you can. And hopefully, you know, you don't have to step on nobody's toes, you know, doing it. And what I mean, like, if I take you to the source, you ain't gotta cut me out, man, you can go together. So often, you know, you take somebody to the source. I am. They cut you out. They don't wanna deal with you no more. That's real. And then the source started to deal directly with them. Yeah, yeah. When they do that, I feel shaded from both ends. I'd be like, man, you serving that dude and I brought it to you, y'all cut me out the deal. And then you go to the other guy, man, I brought you to this dude and you gonna cut me out. Come on, stop. Like Scarface moving, same thing. When he took him and made his connect. Yep. And he ended up, you know, that happens in the game. There's something on, like, did you ever get over the snowfall thing and how they, you know, how they sidestepped you and did it help? Did it hurt? The reputation wise. I mean, you know, it helped in a way and it hurt in a way. You know, it helped in a way because now they know black television shows of that genre makes money. Yeah, yeah. It hurt because they say, oh, your story been told already. Hmm. Hmm. So I say, no, no, no, no, no, no, my story ain't been told. That was only a piece of it. Yeah. It's a lot more than that. It's a lot more than six years. Yeah, yeah, for sure. The fall lasted six years. It's a lot more than six years of me. Wow, way more. I had to ask you something else. I thought about it too. Dave Mays, you see how he connected with Shilg Knight when he, how he's locked up. Would you ever done something like that when you was in the fan's forest? Talk on the phone and do like a AI podcast? I probably would. You see what I'm saying? I did the interviews on the phone. Okay. So I probably would have, I probably would have did something like that had it been going when, it's crazy, you know, in 96 when my story broke, this reporter came down and he came down on my birthday. Okay. And he bought me a domain name. Really? He bought my name. This reporter came down, he bought my domain name. I don't even know what happened to it or if I still own it or what. Yeah, yeah. This was at the birth of the internet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And had I been more aware. You'd have kept it going. I could have kept capitalized on it more. You know, when Dark Alliance, I mean, yeah, when Dark Alliance came out, no, my story is the first time any major newspaper ever published a story on the internet. Really? Yeah. But the thing is, if you'd have kept that domain and kept that same mindset to keep pushing into technology, it would have just kept rolling. It got bigger and bigger, right? Well, I didn't know about, I didn't understand technology. I didn't either. I get it. I'm saying, I didn't get technology. When it first came out, it was like, I think it was like- AOL? AOL. It was all type of, you know, I worked with different stuff during that time too. D-wands. And I wouldn't read the newspaper. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, I was bad, starting to read the newspaper. I was still, you know, a little rough about my study. Yeah, yeah. Especially in technology, right? Because at that time, everything was hand-to-hand tangible. And you, even the mail, you know, the U.S. mail, they didn't even believe in it. That's why they didn't get ahead of it either. Right. Because they was like, that ain't gonna change nothing. We're gonna keep getting this mail out. I don't even think every time was- No, every time it wasn't around. It was just- Every time it wasn't around. Hand to hand is what I'm saying. Every time it wasn't around. The mailman pulled up, he still got the checks. You know what I mean? Yeah. But that changed, you know? And I don't think they really, because if they didn't knew, in my, I was like, if they didn't knew, they'd got ahead of it and they to start creating their emails and they to start being more impactful. You know what I mean? Right, right. I'll keep it in control because they had everybody at the time. If you think about it, they had all, everybody coming to them for all information. But they, and that's when you, and you've seen them, they filed, I don't know if you probably were still locked up then, but they filed to chat, you know, like they was losing all kind of employees. Who's on AOL? No, I'm talking about the U.S. Post Office. Oh, no, I didn't pay attention. Oh, they were losing all counter. They lost everything. Yeah. But they could have had everything in control, but that's how you get the Amazon, the UPS and everything else start to get stronger. And that's the, that's the part where you got to be on top of it. Like you just said, you got to, you got to see it before it happens. You know how important that is. You got to be a vision. Yeah, yeah.