 I'm very happy to be talking to Dr. Salim Sultan Al-Razaiki, he is the Chief Executive Officer for Oman's Information and Technology Authority, welcome. You're very much involved in capacity building in Oman, what does that mean for you? The capacity building actually is one of the very important trucks that we have started with the Oman strategy. This truck is an important why because we are taking the society to use the services, to use the government services. And part of this transformation we would like to take people with us, we would like to avoid the digital divide. How important is it that you get not just governments, not just international organisations, not just the private sector, but you get some sort of involvement of civil society in the decision making that's made here. Do you have any opinions on that? In Oman we are actually working very closely with civil society organisations and especially in the areas this year is, the target here is to use technology to reduce the road accidents for the road safety. And this is actually created a more of a buy-in from everyone because it's not only the government saying not only the private sector always we look at it as also looking for profit, but you're looking for non-profit organisation. This is a very, very important, you need to you need to involve the involvement of everyone, the involvement of government, the involvement of civil society, the involvement of private sector. Okay, just finally we often hear that ICTs necessarily lead to growth and lead to development. Do you buy in very heavily to this? Do you think that that's necessarily true? I think if we look at ICT as an enablement to all the sectors, this is important, but we look at it actually is to create jobs, to enable the whole young entrepreneurs to really take this chance to really invest or to be part of this industry because they don't need a lot of investment to start such business. You just need your laptop and if you have that creative mind then you are in. We are pushing this to be taken as a momentum in Oman. Okay, that's good. Let's listen to that. Thanks a lot.