 First of all, we have breaking Patriots news. This is breaking sports news. Hulled by Valveline Instant Oil Change. On 98.5, the Sports Hub. From ESPN senior NFL reporter Jeremy Fowler just tweeting, Source, Patriots are placing the transition tag on safety Kyle Dugger. So useless. Oh, that's so useless. And it's so cheap. It's so useless. It's so them. I hate it. I hate it. It's so dumb, the transition tag. Let's start doing some quick Googling. Can we? I don't mean to bark out orders. No, no, fine. Give me the last team to transition anyone. Give me the last, the last team to transition anybody. You don't need to do it. It's stupid. Five players have received the transition tag in the last 10 years. Five in 10 years. That's right. Every, it only happens once every other year. 2020, Kenyon Drake running back Cardinals, Cornerback Cow Fuller with the Bears, Dolphins tight end Charles Clay, Brown Center, Alex Mack and Steelers linebacker Jason Worlds. You know, it happens so often. So I'm so, so rarely. I have to refresh my memory on the rules, but I think all it is is a right to match. I think that's all that it is. Correct. Yep. You don't get any compensation. Right. Looks like the non-exclusive franchise tag except it only provides the original team the right to match the other teams offer. So if you lose them, you don't get draft compensation. In my mind's eye, it was always something you did. If you and the player weren't getting along where you would say, well, now with the transition tag, you are required to bring that to us and we have the right to match. You're required to. But if you have a good functional relationship with your player, all you do is you say, go to the market. Let us know what you get. Come back to us and we'll see what we can do. Correct. The Pats have done this over and over and over again. What is the need to transition tag a guy unless he told you to go F yourself? In which case you say, okay, now you've got to come back to us. And then what? If he gets a good, you obviously don't want to pay him the franchise number. You'll only do it if someone else is willing to do it. I think the transition tag is garbage. It's useless. And you can tell I'm frustrated by it because I've always kind of been frustrated by the transition tag. It's like, this thing's useless. Honestly, it's not what I thought it was. I thought it was something a little different. I thought it was just a salary structure thing was different. It was like the average of the top 10 instead of the top 10 instead of the top five. Right, right. But that's what I thought the difference was. I didn't realize you didn't. No compensation. Right. I'm sort of yell at you. You get nothing out of it. So what's the transition number? It's got to be around, well, it's got to be around 15 million. 16 is what the, what should we call it? I thought the franchise was 18. Okay, it's 16. The franchise number is 16. But they're obviously still like, this feels to me like a John Kraft Robin Glacier special. Like just futzing around. Like, you don't want to pay them. But instead of saying, well, go to market, see what you get, give us the last chance to match. Maybe he doesn't want to give that to him. Maybe he doesn't want to come back. Or he hits not his first choice. Barth, Alex Barth says this essentially makes Kyle Dugger a restricted free agent on a one year 13.8 million. Restricted. No, restricted free agents, Barthee. Get compensation. If you sign away a restricted free agent, you get draft pick compensation. He's down the hall if you want to yell at him. Barth, by the, by the qualifying offer, you give the player on a restricted free agent qualifying offer. You, you offer him a certain contract, thus determining your compensation. Unless they've changed these rules. And I don't know it, which I guess is possible. No, the transition tag, there's no compensation. That is not a restricted free agent. A restricted free agent gets compensation if you lose that player. He said essentially. I retweet their buddy. I hate the transition. You can just tell. And there's no, it's just one of these things that I get bent out of shape about that. There's really no reason to, except I just think it's ticky tack. It is ticky tack. There's no question it's ticky tack. Do you want the player or not? But instead, no, no, just checkers. We want the deal. So this tells me though that maybe they're going to use the franchise tag on a winner. Okay, good. No, no, no. So like, you can only use one, right? You can't use two franchise tags is my point. That's right. So if maybe they're going to franchise, franchise tag at Wenu and they wanted to have some say in a dugger. So they decided to transition tag him. The transition tag. JV. JV. I don't disagree with that assessment of it. Trying to save yourself. I think the franchise tag is freaking JV. At least that gives you, you have rights. Like that is, that's contractual hardball. The transition tag. If you don't want to pay him, don't pay him. Or if you've got a good relationship with him, you have a de facto transition tag by saying, let us know the best offer and we'll match or we won't. And you can go to the other team. So what, what does that tell me? Let's just, I've always sought the transition. I'm glad it happened finally. I can just get that off my chest. It's the dumbest thing. It gives you nothing that I can, unless I'm missing something. Barth, let me know if I'm missing anything. I don't think I'm missing anything. Well, it establishes a floor for the player. Doesn't it? I suppose. But to me, it tells me that financially they're just not in the same planet. So can you quickly, you've said there's been five franchise tags in 10 years. That's how rarely it happens. It only happens once every other year. Transition tags. On average. Can you give me the history of the result of those transition tags? In other words, I don't think I can do that in 90 seconds. I'm going to look at it. You're going to yell that again. No, I don't mean to yell at you. I mean, I'll make sure I keep it on my desktop the whole show. You know what? I got to tell you, you weigh whole. I'm surprised it hasn't happened sooner. This finger banging that goes on with the contracts with that team. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened sooner. Oh, I got it. We'll transition them. We don't want to pay them. We're not going to give them a real contract. We don't want to franchise them because that number is too high. No, no, no. We're going to transition them. That'll do it. What do you get out of it? You get nothing out of the transition tag. Nothing. And look, I've spent 10 minutes ranting about this. If there is some practical protection contractual advantage that they get out of it, I want to know it. Tell me and I'll take it all back. Otherwise, what is that? Stupid. I hope he signs a massive contract elsewhere and you say, yeah, go ahead. It's like, oh, great. Nice use of the transition tag. So we can talk about that. Franchise tags are due at four. So maybe there's some action. Maybe there's a franchise tag coming. Well, it won't be the Patriots because they're using the transition tag. They can't use both. So they can't use both. Right. So you can't, you can't go franchise transition. Oh, that's, that's weasley. They're still cheap. Do you want the guy or not out to save themselves a couple of million bucks on Doug? Go ahead, guys, the local media. Just keep blaming Bill. The transition. I didn't even build. Didn't use it. Did Bill ever use a transition tag? I don't think so. I'm trying to remember a lot. You said in the last 10 years, it wasn't in the last 10 years. I don't think they've ever used it. I'm just trying to remember. I can't remember a time the Patriots have ever used it. I never covered. I can't remember covering a case where the guy got the transition tag. It's like neat.