 Unicorns and rainbows and control Yes, and let's not talk about the the spider that was like KTL KTLA this morning from Australia that was going up a refrigerator carrying a dead mouse It was that big. Yeah, this is their pizza rat. I hear Yeah, yeah, and I'm just like no absolutely not no It's spider rat. Nope Carrying the rat to eat. I have banned Australia from my house. So attention all all of the whole Continent you are not allowed in my house There's a very nice people from Australia including probably great including my nephew's fiancee I have no doubt. They're amazing people Peter. Well, for instance day six just happened yesterday I have a good friend that's there. There's an australian. She came here did a taste test now I have to fumigate that room to make sure she didn't leave she didn't leave any eggs From her suitcase. What's the drop bear? She really have to worry about They're ready. They just drop out of nowhere drop bears. Is that what you said drop bears? They just drop out of nowhere like from the sky. Wait, wait, wait, just wait like a black bear Just Drops out of front of you. Yeah, I'll send it to you over a slide Tom or to both of you So today's episode may be slightly delayed as we're as Lamar and I teach each other about drop bears Oh, they're like vicious-looking koalas. Yes. It's a hoax. Yeah, that's right there in the first line I know it's like a jackalope Imaginary animal You know koalas are actually are not really cute and cuddly they have very sharp teeth and will like They're very mean animals. They also this is this is what people when with Lamar and I go to Australia And we're like, hey, is there anything to worry about here? They'll be like, oh the drop bears, mate I Fall for it, too No, they they they spend most of their time a little inebriated because Apparently they get drunk off the leaves the eucalyptus leaves are bears or real koalas actual koalas Okay, the koalas can be pretty nasty and they'll spit at you in the hiss. Yeah. Yeah, they are they're actually mean On the other hand, I am voting koala this year I Didn't mean to get political Today's the last day to vote on I mean the register online for voting in California register online in California. Yeah Yeah, yeah, I got a mail my thing in I do too like I I finished voting last week And so I can't go back and change it, but I haven't finished all the propositions So I finished voting for all the offices, but man Do we have some what have we got like a dozen propositions in the state? And then another half-dozen for the city. I were friend that says he just goes by whatever the Los Angeles time Federal and state I'm not sure if if I should do this Civic one. I go to ballot pedia and I look up each one. Oh you actually do. Oh my you're one of those people I am well you are a researcher by nature. So yeah, I guess it's just my thing Yeah, then I should put what I vote for so that everyone can use that to vote and yes And yeah, there you go and you can be an influencer on my making $300,000 of I mean That's not inethical is it? Oh Of course not All right. Uh, are we ready to do this show here this here show? I think we are ready. All right. Let's do it here we go Daily tech news show is powered by its audience not outside organizations to find out more head to daily tech news show slash support This is the daily tech news for monday october 24th 2016 I'm tom mary joining me in place of miz veronica belmont not that anyone could replace veronica belmont But we're very happy to have an opportunity to bring lemar wilson back on the show Host of youtube.com slash lemar wilson unboxer extraordinary and man about town Wow, that can can I have that for my intro for like my show? Yeah, sure You can make that out creative commons license take it run with it. Yeah, how's it going tomorrow? Going great. I no one can replace veronica, but I will just do my best To be a far far far less prettier version of her I think I feel the same way about myself. Uh, no, it's good to have you on We've got some great stuff to talk about. We're going to dig in the the internet of things I think on friday We did a great job with darin kitchen of explaining the denial of service attack against dine and why that was bringing Websites down over the weekend. You may have heard that it was attributed to a botnet that runs mostly on internet webcams DVR smart tv stuff like that So we'll talk a little bit about that and then lemar and I are going to go over like Just how much this affects us because you got a ton of this stuff in your house, too, right? Yeah I've only just completed every almost every bulb in my house and Dropped nestcams and things. So yeah, this will be an interesting discussion that i'm frantically looking forward to talking about Yeah, and we'll go over some tips of things that you should do Uh, of course, we think there are things that the companies definitely should do but there are the steps You can take as well to protect yourself. Let's start off though with the top stories IDC issued its report for q3 2016 smartwatch shipments monday a total of 2.7 million units were shipped worldwide. That's down 51.6 percent from last year Android wear watches have been largely delayed until 2017 when android wear 2.0 will be released So that's part of the problem apples new watch didn't go on sale till september 16th Which is two weeks before the end of the quarter So a large number of the apple watch sales didn't get counted yet. They'll get counted next time Apple still was on top with 41.3 of the market share Their numbers fell 71.6 percent year over year and they still top the charts Garmin rose its shipments 324.2 percent Wow to take a 20.5 percent market share good for second place They do things like the connect iq and that phoenix chronos hiking watch. I don't know if you've you've seen those I've heard it. I've heard of the hiking watch. Yes, and then samsung lenovo and pebble Rounded out the top five lenovo had a huge drop as well So what what do you think that everybody's got an opinion of what's going on with wearables? Whether it's just not a very big market, uh, whether it's a market just waiting for its killer product What do you feel about this? Yeah, I have i'm a mixed mixed bag I mean I I have an apple watch because you know, i'm a early adopter or stuff like this But you know, I just I just look around at the average people I don't see them having them on I don't see them interested in it No one's really buzzing or talking about it And so I I'm not I don't know man. I I think it's just something that in the tech sphere And and people who like early things it's going to be one of those things that we enjoy But I don't know how's going to get to the mainstream How do you convince mainstreamers to start wearing watches again? Where we finally get rid of the thing that's tailored on our on our wrist Yeah, okay. Think about it like cameras, especially dsl our cameras like really good cameras We're a hobbyist item But you put them into smartphones and suddenly everybody can take pictures So people start caring a little more about photos. I don't think the same thing has happened because here you have to add a second device So this is still going to be a niche thing For people who want to do something that a smartwatch enables them to do so far Really the only thing we've seen that is popular Is fitness tracking or health monitoring one of the those are very related things Yeah, I think I think it was going to have to get the technology to add some more like the health is big, but you know You can only do your heart rate so much unless you actually have a you know, Cardia or whatever however it's pronounced problem average person doesn't need to track that much but you know you start adding blood pressure And and and you know checking for your blood sugar things like that You know, then I could see a better better use case for to have something I like this all the time And apple's leaning into that so I think that's that's smart for them I honestly I think garmin shooting in a number two Partly on that that hiking watch the the phoenix chronos Kind of points to the fact that right now anyway, and maybe this will change But right now you need to have a market who really loves your watch and think about the places where you see watches for sale They've been in high-end boutiques, which apple tried to target at first that didn't work as well And they they're in like reis and camping good stores You see all kinds of watches for sale there Yeah, so I think that's smart and I think fitness hiking outdoorsy type things maybe the The the initial places where this is going to grow if it's going to grow Yeah, the staying at home playing games market like me Maybe not so much. Yeah, I'm not yet I don't know maybe somebody will come up with a thing where everybody's like Oh my gosh, I have to have the watch now because it allows me to blow up more aliens Monday samsung announced customers in south korea can trade in their note seven phones for a galaxy s7 And if they pay half the price of the s7 They can then exchange it for a samsung galaxy s8 Or a samsung galaxy note eight when those arrive in 2017 So part of this is the like hey, we're we're making a more aggressive move in south korea To to get people to stick with samsung But the other half is they are definitely not kidding when they say we're not gonna retire the note brand We're going to have a note eight. Yeah, that's I mean, it's very brave of them because I mean I kind of feel like they have to You know just uh just to keep it going but uh and doing south korea smart because that's their home Like like that like they they just show up their Their constituency so speak first and then and then move maybe move that off for here But it do you feel like people have lost their Like like when you hear samsung now is the is the luster Is the luster gone here? Is I I don't think the luster's gone from samsung entirely Uh, I do think they're the butt of a lot of jokes right now even the president Made a joke about exploding phones the other day Uh, however I think it is easy to exaggerate the sticking quality of a brand being seen as As as a as a joke for instance tylenol Do you remember when tylenol was found to have? I can't remember the the poison. You know arsenic. Was it arsenic? No, I don't think it was arsenic But there was some poison that people had slipped into tylenol bottles for years That was a joke really ones up times, but you know like ooh tylenol you got to be careful with that Tylenol's fine people take tylenol all the time There's another entirely unrelated controversy regarding Acetaminophen that doesn't have to do specifically with tylenol But tylenol itself recovered from that and and that was poisoning of people So I feel like we we tend to over exaggerate how bad this can be I have said that I think they should drop the note line But then the number of confusion the amount of confusion over what the name of the phone actually is I took a snap of a uh of a I actually didn't take a snap. I missed it There was a picture of a sign going into lax this weekend that said samsung galaxy sevens not allowed Yeah, sorry for sure. Yeah. I'm like, yeah, that's not no, that's not okay So maybe the note brand is going to be fine. It's just samsung just asked to weather through all this Yeah, and by the way, you're looking for cyanide cyanide is the word you were looking for Thank you. Yeah, uh, that's that's not a thing you want in your tylenol Saturday atnt agreed to acquire time Warner for 85.4 billion dollars. Uh, we talked about this a bit on day six Peter Wells talked about it. We'll talk about it quite a bit on court killers today with brian brushwood But the deal is expected to close by the end of 2017 A lot of folks worried about atnt controlling TV and wireless and internet and a big content provider that has hbo and cnn and the tnts and all of that uh atnt ceo randall stevensson said monday that direct tv's over the top service will launch in november So before this thing is going to close, uh, they will launch there over the top service But he did say it'll be at a radically lower price than competing services It isn't as amazing. I was just talking to a friend about two days ago when when this dropped in or maybe the day They dropped and it's like atnt. I mean, we remember there's my bell Then, you know the singular thing they went into and and you know and then DSL which they get teased for because it's like, you know pretty crappy They they're they still hang around and it's it's it's amazing. And now they're about to be one of the biggest if not the biggest provider of multiple services And that's a little scary to me. I don't I don't know either It's a great story about a a company having a stick stickiness and persevering through the years or it's A snake that won't die It just it keeps slithering back. I don't know which one is the better story Yeah, there's a lot of angles you can take on this. Peter took a couple of them Yesterday, I see a lot of people today talking about AT&T reassembling itself It's like dude that happened a while back Lamar just mentioned like they used to you know They they took over singular and pacific bell and southwestern bell So AT&T has been reassembled for quite a long time. It's been basically AT&T and Verizon as a duopoly What's interesting is to see all these companies Comcast acquiring NBC universal Verizon acquiring AOL and now in the process of acquiring yahoo And AT&T acquiring direct TV and now in the process of acquiring Time Warner What you see is all of them saying we don't want to be dumb pipes Because you can't make money on dumb pipes. So we need to be in other businesses We need to branch out But question is and I think this is where the fear comes in is what do they do With those media properties to leverage their pipes so far Comcast hasn't done anything terribly horrible Because there were a lot of restrictions put on them There's a question whether the same restrictions could be put on AT&T though because One of the problems with Comcast is they were picking up some NBC owned television stations So the FCC could come in and put Qualifications Time Warner only owns one broadcast station in Atlanta If they were to sell that off prior to the close of the sale Then it's questionable whether the FCC could even regulate them at which point Then it becomes whether FCC can say well, we need to regulate you anyway because we regulate you as a telecom Now another question that I had do you think all of these Conglomerates and get it together is their response to this one company called youtube? Do you think do you think is that dangerous of Of all these new and now we'll talk about influence is label all these new content that's taken eyeballs away from Yeah, I don't know if it's just youtube, but youtube is certainly one of of the factors It's multiple sites like that in aggregate Stealing eyeballs away and and yeah, that's why AT&T Was went to war As did NBC fox and and abc disney with youtube Over over this that's why we have hulu right is they were going to war against youtube And now we're seeing them kind of say well if we can't beat them join them Let's just buy media companies To be able to control the content that goes out there But again, the big question is how much are they allowed to control this sort of thing? We'll we'll this new direct TV over the top service Forget about time Warner. Will this new direct TV over the top service Actually be free or not count against the data of people who get their internet from AT&T And and once they get time Warner, could they do the same thing for things like HBO now? No, is that does that get into those is this fair? Yeah. Yeah Yeah, I forgot what that's called Yeah, what is that called that we're the net neutrality stuff The neutrality rating and in this case. Yeah I I honestly Would like to see a path where these companies spin their their telecoms out It's gonna be a fight for them to still try to figure out like maybe we could squeeze some money out of it by By forcing our content down the pipes, and then we're not just dumb pipes anymore But what I what I hope happens is that Companies who are fine running a commodity business that provides access End up taking over these sorts of things and and AT&T Verizon Comcast They all end up just being media companies Which I think is what's where they're going. I mean, I mean, uh, Verizon has to go 90 I mean, they're they're all trying, you know, um NBC Universal just put another what 20 million into, uh, buzzfeed today Yeah, uh, yeah, or I'm not sure that's like about 200 nights. Excuse me So, yeah, I see that pattern slowly happening. I think that's what I think that's what's down the line Apple released iOS 10.1 which fixes a malicious jpeg vulnerability So everyone who has an an iPhone should get it anyway But it also allows iPhone 7 plus users to take photos in what apple calls portrait mode Now you may think that's just holding your phone upright Instead of in landscape mode, but that's not what they mean They mean, uh, a process where it combines data from the Pluses to cameras because the iPhone 7 plus has two cameras to calculate depth of field And then deliver a background blur that's similar to what a mirrorless camera or a dslr can do It's called the the bokeh or the bokeh effect Apple also updated macOS Sierra to automatically filter those seven plus photos into a special album Watch os 3.1 got an update to replay effects and messages and tv os got a stability update So all the os has got an update today But the one thing everybody's looking at and playing with if they have the right phone Is this bokeh effect on the iphone 7 plus camera? Yeah, I'm excited to try you you said you got to get you got to try it I saw my friend. I just didn't just put a picture on twitter over a dog and look fantastic. So I'm kind of so you know when I put a picture of my dog with the effect on twitter I hadn't seen iJustine's yet I wasn't trying to rip her off Understood understood of course, but uh Also, you did a picture of your dog. That's what Yeah, totally. No, that's what everybody's gonna do. I think okay. Okay. I can't wait to see it Yeah, you go to twitter.com slash ace detect or go to the daily tech news show facebook page And you can find them I on fact on the facebook page I actually did a side by side because when it takes the picture it'll give you the one with the effect And it will keep an original image without the effect Really you can use that if you want and it's an interesting With the picture of my dog a Sawyer that I put up on facebook It's really interesting because the bokeh effect on the on the image With with the depth looks really cool. You're like, oh wow, that's much better picture than I should Be able to take because I know nothing about photography, but it really makes him pop out However, when you compare it to the original The blur in the background is not that much. It doesn't take that much to make that effect pop out Okay. Yeah, I yeah, this is well, I just think this dog is great. I'm sorry. I'll look at yours too But yeah, I'm sure I'm sure I just need dog is awesome Oh You're expression is hilarious I did it too No, I And I think this I was a little skeptical about this sort of thing like yeah, okay So you're doing it all in process This is definitely not going to be as good as a dslr and I'm sure it's not as good as a mirrorless camera would be but hey dummy like me took a picture that looked halfway decent so yeah, remember most of these photos are I mean 98 99 percent of people's photos are are going on the internet They're not making me made into posters or anything So the end of the I'm not saying the days of the s dslr are over But you know if you could trick the camera and I to make it think it's the same thing. I mean, then you know Yeah, it works on instagram. It works here. I'm now you're gonna make me I'm sorry audio people you can go find this on twitter.com slash ace detect But I I have to make sure that That lemar sees so you see with the little blur back there in the background I do see it. It's very yours is very subtle. Yeah Yeah, it's but it pops it pops his head out not in a bad way Yeah, okay. Okay. Yeah, yours is officially better than I just dance. No, no you didn't have to see that No, I like so here. You know that. Oh, so here's a good kid. Yeah, I like that too All right, uh starting wednesday october 26 through november 1st pokemon go will run its first in game event Halloween related monsters like haunter will show up. They also promise more zubats like we need that if anybody Thinking that yeah And then players will earn candy at a faster rate you get dull the reward for transferring your excess pokemon to the professor. So you get more candy. Yeah, I guess this is good to you know, they've been losing Uh, you know people playing so if they do small events like this is probably a good idea Uh, it'd be nice if it was ready on the watch. We're talking about the watches earlier That's one of the use cases of having the pokemon go on the watch Yeah, but that would have been nice to have something that's something ready by halloween, but it this didn't work out And this is the the other thing people are looking at this and saying is uh, pokemon hasn't done anything To lure people back into the game if they if they fell off and they've had a huge fall off as you would expect from A game that skyrocketed so high during the summer too. Yeah Is this is this the kind of thing like it's it's probably gonna make me play a little more I play maybe once a week these days, but I don't know this is gonna pull a lot of people back in This this will pull me in to check it out just because there's a there's a little bit more buzz more friends are Playing it. It'll die down again. Maybe they'll do a thanksgiving one. We'll get back into that Yeah, so I think it'll be in stages as uh any mobile game should be And then uh, finally russian site tjournal.ru shows some screenshots Screenshots of a live streaming function in instagram stories So the report shows a big red button that reads go insta He clicked that and it leads you to a live stream a la periscope or facebook live Port said a user discovered the live button while running a beta version of instagram on android now We haven't got any comment on instagram about this the verge Reported it because the verge says we've been hearing people saying they were going to do this So it makes sense that this might have actually happened Uh, it's it's a little shaky whether this is for sure or not But it does sound like instagram would be working on a live streaming service Which when instagram stories first launched, I thought well, that's weird for instagram now I'm totally used to it. I guess I can get used to a live streaming service too Yeah, I I felt the same way you did and now I don't use snapchat anymore. I use uh Stories and I'm actually going to be increasing my use Uh for like kind of like a mini vlog experience throughout the day But see I have I'm gonna tell you man. I have not been excited. I went to facebook to test live uh four or five months ago With their app. I just wasn't excited about it. I played with periscope But I'm gonna tell you the demographic that I cater to They're all in instagram and and being able to reach them that way just talk to them 15 10 10 15 Men and say hey, I'm about to do my video blah blah blah or so here's some behind the scenes And tell you this is really appealing For this app it's all about ease of use So if you're already in instagram Then that's going to be easy because you just you just go right to the thing you're already using if your audience is in instagram Obviously, that's going to be good too. That's one of the reasons periscope I think got an advantage on mircat was you had the twitter audience more built in But of course facebook has the biggest audience everybody uses facebook Uh what you're saying is the audience you need to reach may use facebook But they don't really use it for that Correct, correct. So, you know, it just it depends on your demo, but You know instagram is kind of where my core is and so I saw this was very very Excited anything to keep that of fluency of money flowing to the to us, right? Well, you were saying that 2020 this week on cbs had had a story about Influencers and how that industry is blooming Yeah, yeah, they they talked to miners snapchatters and people who do six second videos and Was talking about you know, how you know one shot one six second video can make some of them two three hundred thousand dollars And people are like isn't that too much and the industry is actually saying No, it's actually too little because we don't know what this is so new We don't know what these people are actually worth because they have such influence on their audience And so we maybe seeing um, you know even more money flowing in You know from companies like dunking donuts or they were just different sandwich companies They were doing promotions, but it was just it was nice to see influences get to recognition but didn't get insight on How how powerful they really are and how seriously the industry is taking them Yeah, that's that's an interesting take on it to to not not just go into influencers as like is this ruining our industry Which is usually the take I see in mainstream outlets But more of a like, you know, what is this industry and you know, what is proper compensation? And what are what are the the the inner workings of it? Yeah, that's that's cool Uh, thanks everybody who participates in our subreddit you can submit stories and vote on them at daily tech news show dot reddit.com I'm going to get to our message of the day off the top because we're launching our our main discussion off of it Bruce from peterborough, canada Was one of the people who first pointed out that security analysts confirmed That friday's denial of service of attack on dyne was launched using internet of things devices infected with the mirai malware, that's m i r a i Uh, and bruce said I have to share this tweet from jeff jarmak In a relatively short time. We've taken a system built to resist destruction by nuclear weapons and made it vulnerable to toasters So of course the internet, you know, one of the ideas behind the internet was let's have redundant servers So that if one gets taken out the communication system stays online And yes, uh now smart toasters are bringing down the infrastructure and of course What he's talking about is the fact that the mirai botnet runs on internet of things devices Webcams thermostats light bulbs dvrs smart tvs Uh, and in fact chinese manufacturer hong shu zhengmei technology knows that its products were exploited in the distributed denial of service attack friday They said the main issue was users not changing default passwords Mostly on internet connected webcams The company is going to recall some of its earlier products and issue patches for older products by april Uh So they're taking some steps to say all right We want to really try to force people to pay attention to this and update the firmware and maybe change those default passwords Uh, but that that is something that it is it's not too little too late But wow you wish you would have done that from the beginning. Don't you? Yeah Let me ask you just from a little bit different point of view now I'm let's say i'm the regular consumer who shouldn't have to think about this, right? I mean we we shouldn't have to think about this uh I'm assuming the legit companies like philips hue which i use um You know what was the nest i was just on the phone with nest labs uh today talking about something Now those kind of things either have a qr code Or they have a button you have to press there's something in because that's what they sold us on That the security is in your house unless someone is physically in your house and can access that you're safe And are you saying now that? That that is not the case. Well, it depends on the device like you say some devices are better at this than others Uh nest for instance forces you to pick a password Uh, so that's good. They're not there's not a default password on your nest thermostat That could just be out there and if you don't change it it can immediately be accessed and compromised at the same time Like a router you are. Yes, exactly. Uh, and at the but at the same time Your Your nest must connect to a cloud service And so you are at the mercy of that cloud service being secure and those connections being secure Now granted that's also true when you connect to your bank or anything else So there's a certain amount of overreaction you can have against it But the safest thing for an internet of things device is for it not to reach out on the internet So it is Risker to use something like the nest which requires you to reach out on the internet Whereas a phillips bulb You can you can set it to operate remotely or you can set it to just operate within the house and never have it Reach out to the internet at all and that's that's risky Okay, because that was my fear. I'm like that literally I just finished putting several more hue bulbs in this weekend And so I I have the whole house is hue. I have nest cams I have some nest products coming and I was like lord if I If somebody could like trap me in here with flashing lights and make me have a seizure and freeze me to death And I just I want to make sure So what what would I have to do as a consumer to feel safer on this first thing to do is make sure you update your Firmware now companies I am when I give these tips out. It's not because I think it's your responsibility It's more in your best interest To say look you don't want anybody hacked your thing. You may never notice that your thing got hacked But then again now you have a malicious entity in your network And you don't want that even if they're just running a botnet that never affects you You don't want other people in your network. So keep your firmware updated It's best if the company forces these firmware updates, but not all of them do So at least for now it's on you to make sure to just check every so often Did the did the bulbs all get their firmware update? Did my router get its firmware update? Did my smart tv get its firmware updated? It's it's kind of a pain. So you should still first line of defense So you should still like get those emails from those companies just to make sure You know like stay on their list of yeah, or go go into the the settings every so often and do a check for update Usually there'll be some kind of option for that and make sure that it got updated With these kind of updates if you're not the kind of person who wants to bother with that And you can turn on an automatically update firmware. You absolutely should do that So that you don't miss one. The other thing is if you're setting these up Make sure you change the default password if it never asks you to change a password Go find where the password is and change it Because that's the biggest vector for mirai was finding all these webcams that were set up with one two Three four five or whatever the default password was and all they they they had the same password on every camera out there That's scary. That's actually for cameras very scary Yeah, and and scary for us because we don't want to be looked at Well, the fact is the mirai botnet doesn't even look at the pictures Well, maybe some operators do I don't know but that's not what it's meant to do They just want to use the server that's on that camera to send out bot traffic Uh, and you don't want to again, you don't want that in your network Disable remote login options. Now. This is more controversial one. For instance with a nest It really won't work if you do that. So that's that's a personal decision But really the the way I would phrase it is if you don't need to access it from outside your house Turn it off You so if I don't need to warm my toast and while I'm in uh, florida for vacation I should probably Not have that on okay. Don't let that thing access the internet unless it absolutely has to Don't let that thing access be accessible from the internet unless it absolutely happens to okay Yeah, I mentioned update your router's firmware, but also look at your security settings Make sure your wi-fi encryption is strong preferably wpa or wpa2 and you want to make sure you have wps disabled Oh, that's a different that's a different approach. Okay. Yeah, so make sure you've got good good connection there Your router's administration page should not be accessible on the internet So, you know, maybe go on your phone's lte connection or or 3g connection and try to get to your router If you can that's bad. You should only be able to get to it from within your network. Are we in my house right now? I'm looking at this at the Okay, I thought that was just a picture that looked a little like you were all looking in my house right there Yeah, uh, we accessed your camera I was like, wait a minute. I think I'm a little nervous for a second Yeah, I looked a little familiar and the other thing is make sure you got a firewall on your router Most modern routers will set up a firewall automatically Don't punch holes in them unless you absolutely know what you're doing Do port forwarding in fact a lot of internet of things devices will say Hey, do you want me to like make a change so that I can access the internet? Like just say no unless you really understand what it's asking for. Uh, those those would be my my tips These are excellent tips and I mean and these these Items are coming down in price. They're becoming, you know more and more houses and uh, it's good to know these things because we think Oh, it's just within my local internet and my local network This can't possibly cause a problem until it does And still explore us the 100 million dollar question. How would you know if your device is compromised? The average person is not going to notice So you're going to have to do some detection to see if that bulb or that webcam is sending out packets when it shouldn't be Uh, and and you know, that's something that a lot of folks in our audience might be willing to to do And and monitor that traffic, but most people won't so you you just need to to update That firmware and if you do a lot of times that alone will get rid of it But you don't you don't really know for sure So we haven't got to the point where someone is taking over someone's home Uh, no in fact In some ways the idea of them going in and like turning your thermostat way up and turning your lights on and off Is is not something they want to do because they don't want you to notice they're in there They want to use those devices to send Traffic for a denial of service attack or send spam. It's not to it's not to peep in our people Yeah, so they really I mean not to say that there aren't people out there who also want to do those things Or marry pranksters that want to turn your your lights on and off and stuff Right, uh, but but the majority of the people who are running this mirai botnet They don't they don't want to call attention to themselves They they just want to continue to use your bandwidth and your machine to operate their botnet Okay Yeah, uh, thank you and uh a couple of tips in here schnago points out Just check your snmp log for unusual traffic from your camera Uh, if you if you know what that is and you know how to do that. That's one way to check Uh and tinvek says like at home. I don't have ssh port 22 access enabled So all possibility of attacks on my home network from that point from that port are simply gone Uh, so those are those are some more good tips from the chat room. Thank you guys. All right. Yeah, thank you And uh, if you want to know a little bit more about how those denial of service attacks were conducted We talked with there in kitchen about that Last friday it's in the main discussion and we have a link that takes you directly to that discussion in today's show notes All right Looking for a uk perspective on the tech. We have a good recommendation. Check out text message It's tech text message with natelangston At tec. Yeah, see you get it text but text. Uh, it's at tech podcast dot uk What's on this episode this week nat? Hey, thanks tom and hey, guess what amazon may be launching a broadband service But in the uk not the us Why well in the uk if you build a massive national telecoms network You have to let your competitors use it and resell it as their own product if you're bt that is It looks like that's what amazon might be up to if you're curious It's our top story this week on text message at tech podcast dot uk. Hopefully see you over there Thank you, nat. Uh, and of course you can hear what's been on the previous week of daily tech news show By listening to the text message as well. It's a nice little summary that he lets me do for him And this was fantastic lamar wilson. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you for having me. This was this was a lovely show I enjoyed it. Well, I hope we've uh, we've made you feel a little more confident about your smart home Yeah, no, and I think I've done all the right things for myself You know, I make sure those passwords are changed, but as I'm And I hate to use the word influencer, but I am Uh, you know, I'm I'm showcasing these items and getting people excited and getting them to buy it So I want to make sure my audience You know make sure they do the safe things as well as I'm doing so this is a good message for me to push Uh through my videos in the future. So yeah, not only to your audience But but to the companies and be able to like reward those companies that have good practices to say like Hey, you know what these guys have set it up, right? They don't want you to be part of a botnet Exactly. Yeah, the more we can get average people asking that question when they buy a smart device like wait a minute Is this going to make me part of a botnet? The the more those companies are going to stop doing things like default passwords And and stop making it too easy to be insecure Absolutely Well, if you would like to find out more about Lamar Wilson and those things that he is talking to his audience about become one of his audience Go subscribe Yes, please youtube.com slash Lamar Wilson right now. We're doing daily videos showcasing products getting ready for the holiday and I have a specific playlist that has all of my smart home and connected devices Like my Roomba vacuum, which is on the internet. 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Oh as soon as you said Roomba. I was like I was like amazing just amazing That's good. That was good conversation Yeah, yeah, no, it's good education for me like like I'm so glad we covered that Yeah, just because I'm I'm constantly I'm really heavy into it now and as I'm talking about I want to you know Make sure I pass it on to everybody's like hey just yeah just get stuff it it doesn't matter Yeah, right. No, you could actually be a chain of a force for good. That's good A force for titles even Yes, what do we got the internet is toast my favorite Get it DOS is coming from inside the house That's good too. Tom's internet of things tips just say no The watch stops here nbn tnt by atnt Toasters bring them to the web did my bulbs get their security update Internet of things is casting a bad light bulb Don't let your toaster use the internet Where are the wearables One to stream the mall smart homes done people I just don't eat that side justine Oh Was that on twitter or facebook where I just seen oh, it was on twitter She might have thrown on facebook too, but I just noticed it on twitter getting a robot vacuum hack sucks You know, that's really funny though. It's just the internet us is winning by by a very wide margin The internet is toast. Oh, I didn't hear that one. Oh god. Yeah. That was the first one Well, I was editing something in my video. Sorry. It's about to go live. So I didn't hear it Um You're multitasking. That's amazing. Yeah. Yeah. I was supposed to be up at two and I was like oops, okay Let me get this out Uh, the internet is toast. I'm good with that Cool Yeah, that's that's really funny The internet is for toast Buttered toast with marmaline toast I have to say I justine has a very cute dog picture there It's a good example of the depth too Yes, but but your Your dog is it's amazing Well, she's got a different kind of dog. He's a little poodle the looking guy. Yeah, hello. Yeah But his hair way too short He's a little fluffball I liked it I liked that Yes, we don't want just anything we are You don't like her dog. No, of course not It was just the first picture like I'm talking to you and it just it flew through the feet. I'm like, oh, that's what it looks like Yeah, I just had landed right then. Yeah All right, my video is public now nice It's a nice tech video about taste testing s'mores chips ahoy I Really fits the show Chips ahoy I like them I used to like him. I don't like him anymore I don't like um, and I said this in the video. I was very honest about it I don't like chewy chips ahoy at all and that's what these are But there's s'mores, but I tolerated it because the s'mores was so good that it It made me forget about the aftertaste that chewy chips ahoy likes to have Is the dough chewy or is it just the chocolate that makes it the dough is it should it is They artificially do that, you know that make the yeah, yeah make it seem like they're home baked But uh, it's a it's a weird aftertaste something and I and I don't they all Chips ahoy like ever since the 90s have had a weird taste to me like they do something It it it's more it's even more chemically than like baking powder I don't I don't see a whole lot of of the uh The really good chewiness in store-bought cookies like there's uh, what are the ones what are the ones of those organic ones? There's those organic ones that are okay, but the problem is if they don't use Uh less than natural means to achieve their chewiness. They just know they just fall apart They're just crumbly. They're not really chewy I get the uh, I just stick with mothers. They're not chewy. They're crunchy and they're fine Yeah, but I can only have a reason why does mother make the ice the ice uh oatmeal Is that the yeah, but I don't want to eat those. I don't really like their chocolate chip Okay, uh, when you get to LA we're gonna have to fight Because uh, that's unacceptable that I like the iced oatmeal ones too, but I never see the chocolate chip ones at all Well supermarkets are a lot like homework stores. They stock their products based on very uh, very detailed demographic data for the neighborhoods that they support Yeah, that's why I go to the Ralph's on olympic instead of the Ralph's on national More your kind of people I guess I was just talking, um Taste sundae, but like like that's actually a thing like the What are different prices and different different rals or because based on on where you where the neighborhood different selection So like the national one actually will have cheaper things sometimes, but their selection is really limited I thought they had to have the same price because of the sales papers. I didn't know I don't know. Maybe I just feel like it's cheaper because it's all cheaper stuff. I don't know No, no, you're probably right. They put the sales probably are the same But they probably do have maybe because of lost prevention or something. They they raised the prices They did in Chicago I take it back. I do know this and in bad neighborhoods They were raised the price of coffee or some things that would get stolen. Yeah to make up for the price Yeah, yeah, so you would go to the nice neighborhood Neither one of them are likely to be I mean the one on national is actually close to the freeway so if they were gonna get people shoplifting I feel like it'd be more Opportunists like that, but their prices are lower Hmm I don't know what it is Oh, I'm gonna hate grocery shopping after I move. Well, here's the thing I would I would stop going to the national ralf's because there were some things that I could only get at Trader Joe's or Whole Foods Then I discovered they had both those things for a lot cheaper at ralf's on olympic Let's just say have you have you turned into a Whole Foods buyer? Oh, I almost did and I'm almost Like yeah, yeah exactly I couldn't keep it up Because our friends like oh, you know, it's not that that expensive. You just find the right things I'm like I went there one day about three or four things like juice and yeah a couple things are fruit The the little it was a little bag like this just 40 bucks and I'm just not even exaggerating. It was just I was like, what did I just buy? I will only buy Certain items at Whole Foods and they're like less than 10 items There's a there is is it their in-house items? No, they stock it's like they're vitamins like they carry vitamins that Trader Joe's and uh supermarket generally don't have I would have to order it online But that's it I would get like some of their their whatever their in-house brand is and those prices wouldn't be awful But compared to the in-house brands elsewhere They weren't they weren't cheap was like 360 or that yeah something like that Something something about a circle. Yeah, I guess a circle number like that. Yeah Uh, no, I'll take it back. I like their donuts. I like their again or their vegan donuts It's a it's a great lie. I tell myself that I'm doing something Exactly I mean sugar is vegan Vegetable fat. Yeah, or Orioles are also vegan. So, you know, get some perspective those are I actually prefer numinoes to and I I get those a safe way But I've never had a new one knows actually so small Newman besides being an actor part-time martial artist practitioner and race car driver Was also into being into his own food products like growing stuff So I had a salad I had a salad dressing before. Yeah Which are basically fig newtons except They're they follow the palm Newman philosophy of like no additives all natural And I actually prefer the taste of numinoes to fig newtons. They taste more like figs. Wait. I'm talking about numinoes Which are the oreos? Oh, no, that's okay I actually prefer the numinoes to to Oreos because I don't like the Oreo Um, what do you call it the fluff? It's fig newtons that are the yes Are you a troll? Are you a trolling me right now? No I'm sitting here like they're playing a joke on me again. It's no way. I mean his name numinoes It's not like a that's not like a Seinfeld episode We're doing is eating a bunch of Oreos and then Sakaruni was the name of the Italian Okay, you know No, it's real. Look it up But the numinoes are good and I for this one very important reason for for me Is that compared to Oreos fig newtons not fig newtons numinoes Don't hurt my teeth Like for some reason Oreos have gained 300 more sugar And so when I chew into them they actually hurt my teeth like it's just so much sugar, but if I eat A numino. I don't have that problem These are real. I've never seen these Well, you have missed out on a good portion of your life And then I fig newtons you're telling the truth. I'm not that wasn't joking. Why do you think we're like pulling one over your eyes? Because of the of the vacuum thing. I can't recover from that Sakaruni too Wait Okay, I'm looking I'm looking at all the the snacks. So yes Numinoes and family recipe cookies. Okay. I've never seen these packages. I am not even joking I've seen Newman salad dressing. I've seen the pastas Uh, didn't you mention I actually think I like that one too But I have not seen these snacks and now these are only at Whole Foods. No, no, you can get I get them at Ralph's I get them at Safeway I must be I'm completely out of the loop here They're always in a white package. Yeah Now Safeway here would be Vaughn's, right? Yes. Okay. Okay. So you'll still have your story Hopefully yeah, I'm wondering if there's a change I switched from Safeway to Ralph's when I moved though Uh Vaughn's is closer to closer to where I live. So I just go there But I do like I do like the way Ralph's is laid out better. They have strawberry fig newtons. Oh, I gotta buy those I'm wait ginger O's Oh, those are good too. Those are those are ginger man ish tasting. I always learned something on this show See, nothing to do with so education Even even after I mean, he's literally carving out his own Food empire posthumously, which is very rare for me. It was it was pretty it was pretty good It was going pretty well even before he passed away, but that's what I'm saying It's like but I thought it was probably going to fall apart afterwards and it hasn't I always thought it would have remained niche to like the dressing and a few other things But they've literally expanded the product category like I don't remember ever seeing a Newman O's pizza, but they have one Newman O's pizza not Newman Newman's Newman's own own OWN I was like is it pizza with Oreos on it? I wish I could be in I can't get in check right now, but I was like I wonder if they're like going crazy So like, how do you not know? How do you how have you not taste these are? Things like daily snack news show and Lamar has seen the light Wait, okay. So get this get I did not know they had this So Newman's OWN, which is the brand Newman's OWN They do their own line of licorice. They do black licorice pomegranate licorice sour apple licorice Sour cherry sour mango sour strawberry and strawberry Oh I gotta try the mango Oh, yeah, the air, but did you hear see that freeze? So was that just on my end? Uh, no, I think everyone was just waiting for me to finish. I think Right. Can you hear me? Tom? Yes, I can hear you. I'm just thinking about Uh, okay, so he has beverages. I'm just overwhelmed. I'm at I'm at a site and I I'm overwhelmed right now Yeah, but what are what are hermits? Well, hermits are old people generally these who live outside of the public This is probably four old people. It's a soft cookie. Oh, yeah Yeah, I don't even have to put in my teeth Only old people would know who called Newman. There's no offense guys. No, that's um, I'm old Honestly, don't know what I don't know what he's dead. Like I he did movies He did see he did the sting and he did uh, what's an Ian bullet? What's that? I've had his virgin lemonade. It's good. Well, I had his adult lemonade, which is after its virgin out It's a hard hater. It's just like, uh, what's the movie where they cut off? Uh, parking meters at the top, um, cool hand luke Oh, yeah, cool hand luke's probably the most famous So that's why don't they have their own line of aches He was uh, butch Cassidy and the sundaes kid Well, he was one of them. He wasn't both of them. He was in it. Yes. Yes Um He was both characters. He was doc hudson in cars This is his last roll Oh How old is he at that time 90? He lived a long time. He did Because he ate all that healthy food He basically she he opened his pantry to the world. He was 81 when he did cars voice So he must have been 85 when he passed away. Yeah And I see a hudsucker proxy. I'm sorry. Go ahead. Oh no, I'm just reading He was a he was a student of bruce lee's supposedly one of the greatest one of his greatest roles was slap shot Wait, what shot? He was regi reg dunlop Yeah friendship of bruce uh steve mcqueen and bruce lee You won't you want a solo? What time are you two going to denny's tonight? Four o'clock Right right when they uh the early bird special kicks in You know You do get up early. I know I bet you are a forehand person. No gosh, no I did I got up at 6 30 today Because I had to do something early usually I don't get up before 7 but I know that's still early I wake up at 5 with the birds There's only there's only one denny's I've ever found adequate to like it taste tasted good And that was the denny's in downtown la Really? Yeah I know it's what he's talking about. Yeah Was that a high hop? No, it was just well the one I went to was a denny's I actually used to go to the denny's in champagne urbana when I was in college out by the mall and it was pretty good My college college student everything is good when yeah, that's kind of true My litmus test is always eggs eggs are something very easy to do but you're easy easy to screw up I can eat 50 eggs That's a paul newman line from cool hand luke. See bringing it all back. Oh, man Hey, would you would you'll be mad if I said like I'm not a big pancake person? No Is that where like I prefer a waffle waffle? I prefer waffles too. Actually. Yeah. I was just thinking about denny's So when they offer it like you get a omelet and they're like you want pancakes with it. I'm like No, I don't have anything against pancakes and Occasionally I'm in the mood for pancakes, but I'll always eat a waffle. They need too much syrup Yeah, I don't like the waffle has its syrup containment system built, right? Right. Yes. Okay. You understand me. Yeah So did your mom did your mom make pancakes when you were kids? Yes, like from the from the mix, right? My grandmother grandmother did my mom used to make it from a mix I'm not sure it was biz quick or something would be but it was it was yellow batter And you dropped it in if you cooked it long enough that it would get a little crispy on the edge Yep, and I love that. I love that was soft and they would I'll be honest. It was my dad who always made him not one of them Now what made my grandmother special is that she would always fry bacon before And she would use bacon fat as a set of butter And that added a whole another level to the pancakes chocolate chips ever No Usually dad put chocolate chips in ice cream. That's the big one And ice cream is a big one instead of putting butter. You just put a giant pat ice cream Vanilla or whatever Wait, wait, was it a instead of what ice cream ice cream instead of butter instead of doing a scoop of butter? You put on your pancakes. Yeah. Oh I've said I guess I've seen that it's good Don't give me the Vulcan eye You have that leg What you're talking about Lamar made some crack about my look earlier when he's talking about ijustine I can't help it I'm talking about Lamar because he had that like they had x well You have an exasperated more is part Vulcan. That's true I'm I'm pitching you take a scoop of ice cream and putting it in a fryer to make the pancakes and I'm like, what are you thinking? No, that's right. No, actually that's fried ice cream. That's something that's different I was like why would I was like you can't replace butter with that No, I got my potato my baked potatoes Make you make your pancakes and then you put a scoop of an ice cream on top I love that you've forgotten that Newman's own is just showing up as your is your video right now. Oh I'm just seeing like chicken lacropolis every time you talk. Well, there's a basalic chicken kebabs You know, it's what's funny. I eat that about twice a week at an Armenian restaurant I'm gonna go get my mail and it's it is it is like the best They have yeah, uh, it was basmati But yeah basmati rice Um, it's not basalic chicken. I get like chicken breast But it's so fresh and succulent cut up and then they give you the I get the hummus Which I don't ever I don't eat anyone's hummus, but I'll eat theirs. There is it's amazing Uh, and then they give you that fried tomato. I don't know you're not not fried. It's a tomato. That's real. Yeah Yeah, it's been grilled. Yeah, it's like it was when I first had to play What is this tomato thing? What's up with this? And it's just like this. It's just a cultural thing man. It's it's amazing meal And they promise on the sign of the place that you will not get hurt burn All right. Yeah, they say and I've never got it there. There you go our suggestion Did you go in like oh, I'll show you I'll get some heartburn I I did try ever since I stopped eating fast food. I've never had heartburn And it's just like I consider fast food like anything with a drive-thru Then you can have that that the restaurant will have a drive-thru the fat burger near my house does does not have a drive-thru So that's not fast. Yeah, that's not fair. No, they take more than five ten minutes to make it I think that's I don't know because there's some There's some local restaurants that make really good food and I eat it because I don't want to cook And I don't consider I mean they make it fast. I don't consider fast. Well, I mean I mean if you if you're getting someone in the middle of a run shower And they have like a bunch of hamburger patties. They've you know, typically a restaurant will make the patties ahead of time Unless they're super cheap and just buy it that way Um, actually that's not she it's cheaper. It's not cheap. Oh, yeah You get your pies and they throw it out it comes out It's weird because some like mcdonald's take like 20 minutes to get my order together And it's just like I want a double cheeseburger and fries. Yeah It's just it's because they have a drive-thru and they serve all the drive-thru people first Oh, that's a trick to I've learned the hard way to Taco bell is that because I look at the line in this long and I'm like, I'll just go in biggest mistake ever Taco bells always sound good and then I get one and they they taste right for the first few bites and then like why did I buy Oh, yeah, same thing, but I just have to have the craving. Yeah a good thing. They don't have a white castle here. It'll be over I just my my constant response with Taco Bell is that uh, people say Uh, well, that's not real mexican food and I say correct. That's not what I think of it as it's taco bell It's entirely different. Thank you. Thank you I don't know why people make a big deal out of that. It's like, I know I know what I'm eating They're like, yeah, no, I don't consider it mexican food either. Yeah It's fine. I don't do Same day with panda express not chinese not chinese food. No, exactly. In fact, it's one of the I don't want to get I don't want to get you in trouble for saying this Because it might be recorded on youtube So what I'm watching is that panda express is one of the few foods That when I smell it, I sort of get pre-heartburn like I feel it Dole roger saying no, yeah, yeah I I'm not losing my brand deals panda express press you. I love you. You're not I don't have a brand deal with them yet Not yet all right, uh speaking of Not speaking of brand deals at all, but we are we are published. We are good to go. So Thank you everyone for watching or listening. Talk to you soon. Yes