 A-Ball and MJG, UGK, Outkast, Three Six Mafia and Goodie Mob, those are my groups from that time. Those are my groups from that time and we can argue about them however you wanna do it. Yeah, we on Boss Talk 101, 101. Yeah, we gon' talk about it. I'm gonna talk about the podcast, man. Like, you had, man, like I said, you do a great job. And I mean, the things that got me into them, which was Pimp and Ken, was Bunby. And who was, oh, Kel, Kel, see, that's my boy, man. Like, I rocked them, they're my, hey, that's the three trophies right there. That's right, that's right. Get a nigga on over there. You know, I'm gonna ignore this nigga then. Nah, I can't ignore this nigga, all right, huh? Exactly. You know, just showing you how you, when you go in, but I just love the fact. And then, like I said, Crunchy Black, that nigga cried. It's Lord Infant. I think he did to me, the fucking died. Nigga, you shoulda told me you were ready to go. Maybe I woulda went with you. I ain't never seen nobody get that sentimental on there. Never my nigga. Yeah. When he died, I died. I'm like, man, how did you end up, and that's an interview that sticks out to me, like, to keep your composure and to keep that going. I know you didn't see it coming out like that, you know? How did you keep and maintain, you know, your position? Well, I felt this pain. That was just the bottom line. I felt this pain. Now, hell, I wanted to cry with the nigga. You see what I'm saying? Real talk, real talk. I feel your pain. Yeah, I mighta got a little twitchy. Yeah, you mighta got one or two out. You see what I'm saying? So it's like, you heard, but you didn't find a camera, get back on me. You see what I'm saying? Now, I felt this pain because I mean, you come up with somebody, you grow up with somebody like that, it hurts when they pass, you know? And then, you know, to compound that with the loss of his daughter and everything else at the same time and just the pain from life in general is enough to make you, you know, go there at that time. So, you know, crunchy, and then crunchy, you know, I'm a family man. So, you know, I got love for crunchy. He got love for me, man, and he knows that I'm not there to, you know, exploit him in any kind of way or nothing like that. He know that I generally give a damn about what's going on. And when that happened, I mean, I just felt this pain. That was the main thing with that. It was like, you know what, let him get it out and let him talk about it. Because at the end of the day, here, niggas get together all the time and folks cut a fool. You see what I'm saying? Well, we screaming, yelling, nagging, up and down. That's all happening at the counter was on that day. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You see what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Right there, let's somebody cut up and then you come back in or what you got to say to keep them going. Well, you know, and another thing, you know, like I said, that was one of the ones that stuck out. That wicked guy over there, which you. Yes, sir. Yeah, always arguing and talking crazy and saying some stuff that I'd be getting upset about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. UGK, I'm real crazy about this stuff. But I love the chemistry because it seems as if you, you know, y'all are well-balanced, you know what I mean? Y'all rock out together in a way to where it makes sense, you know what I mean? But, and then y'all captured subjects just happened. And I'll be watching all that. I'll be loving the fact that, you know, you get out, I look at yours and I'll be like, dang, okay, he went in on that. Or stuff that, you know, so you got, how did you and Wickey get so cool? Okay, see, he was one of the artists. So when I was at how 1079. Okay. Not only was I a breaking new artist, but I was also bringing the artist that I grew up listening to, to the radio station as well. Because how I used to happen at the radio back during that time, it was one of those things to where if you were, if you weren't hot, then you had to go to hell. And that's just what it was. You have your three, four year run and then after that, nobody wanted to hear from your ass again. And that's just how hip hop was going at that time. So for me coming into the game, I saw that and I was like, nah, that ain't gonna work. Here, these folks still got the same fan base just because they saw a game playing on the radio don't mean they ain't still hot. That's right. You see what I'm saying? They still got a story to tell you. That's real. They ain't got a fan base. They got a fan base. They ain't got a fan base. So WIC was one of those folks, you know, get all mafia, I brain them. And then, you know, we're going to that straight from the deck and stuff like that. And as well as turk too. I've seen turk on there a lot. Yeah, yeah. Now turk is another one of my podcast partners. So with WIC, he, when it was during COVID and I was getting ready to get that office. So that's when the game changed from the podcast. And this is when I realized that, okay, if I'm going to make this a business now, I have to make sure that I can always create content, okay? So you're going to have to have some podcast partners, okay, that you fucking with on a regular basis that you could talk to and create content with. And you're also going to have to have some topics to be able to talk about. And, you know, argue on the show just to have a damn show going on at the same time too. So that's when my main concept then became hip hop debates. So what I wanted to do and bring to the game was that no longer would you have to just sit there and interview somebody to have content. We could talk about the culture and debate the culture whether it's old, past, present or future. And we could have, you know, inspiring conversation doing that. So with WIC, we started debating eight bottom MJG. I know. And UGK. That was probably our first debate. I know, that was a problem. Yeah. Yeah. With me, that becomes an issue, real bad. And I love eight balls. I love eight ball. Don't get it twisted. Oh yeah. Now I'm a big, it's going to be hard to get around eight ball and MJG and then beats and they produce and all that. But there's a difference. You know what I'm saying? I know I'm from Texas. So you can, you from Atlanta. So you can really, they, them for said, but they, you know, Tony Draper was, they was in Texas. They was in Houston. Yeah. You know, so that was a lot of influence. Yeah. That's all I'm saying. Don't give my God. They influence is something in itself. I mean, eight ball and MJG, UGK, outcast, yeah, three, six mafia and goodie mob. Those are my groups from that time. That's hard. Those are my groups from that time. And we can argue about them however you want to do with every time. Now go back. You said eight ball and MJG and eight ball and MJG had a problem with Mr. Mike when he was out. But that nigga was serious. I'm just gonna go and tell you right now. You can say whatever, but I go get the tapes. You go get the CDs in the tapes, nigga. Yeah. And I'm gonna promise you, you're not going to ignore Mr. Mike. That's right. That's right. But Mr. Mike himself that tonality and all that he was doing in the mix of that. I agree. You can't leave him out. Come on. And then when I went to interview, it was like, I can't leave you. I brought love to you, bro. Exactly. Because of your voice and the way your tone is and the way you was delivering those, those rhymes. Nobody wasn't doing it like him during that time. Believe me. How you gonna be pinnacle in the Mr. eight ball and MJG? I mean, big Mike. Yeah. Big Mike. That's a nice one. That's a awesome one right there, man. He gon' jam with UGK and eight ball and MJG. Man, what you talking about? Big Mike is another big Mike in this thing. Man, let me tell you, I always compare that some serious to act when you got realized that was the 90s, early now. It's chronic came out. And I say, you niggas don't talk about some serious. And I got a problem with that. You can't not talk about some serious. Cause I had both of them in the car in that, in that Monte Carlo, all that cutlass with the three oh five. I had all that going on and I might pick the chronic or I might pick some serious. Come on. Am I right? Exactly. But you don't hear that. You don't hear that kind of talk. You don't, that don't, from the East and the West Coast, I don't think they seen it the way we seen it. And I get it, but I gotta be true to myself when it come down to these Southern artists. That's something that I push on this channel. Exactly. Like I'm not fit to be biased. I'm gonna do, I'm gonna leave my truth. My truth is I was here and I'm over the nigga. So I was listening to it, I was consuming it. You know what I'm saying? Come on. So I know what I was consuming and how I'm consuming. Exactly. You talk about Mr. Mike. Let's go to another one. You got Magic Mike. Yeah. Stop playing. You know what I'm saying? Base. Come on. Base, I had 18s in the truck. So you can't, it's all kind of stuff going on in my car. Tell me what to say on the pocket. You know what I'm saying? And you're not gonna come in and say, I don't care who you is and tell me different. I know cause I lived it. You know what I'm saying? So when I hear your show, I really understand that you guys are standing on business when it come down to what you guys truly believed in. And I think that's what we need, bro. Also it's creating a relevancy in the game. Come on now. So the whole thing is we trying to open up the doors and create a relevancy for OGs to be able to attack the game like they used to. Instead of being booted out the game and having to sit on the sidelines and watching young folks have the time of their life. We said no.