 If you want to pump your body and expand your mind, there's only one place to go. Mind pump, mind pump, with your hosts, Sal DeStefano, Adam Schaefer, and Justin Andrews. In this final episode of the Month of Mind Pump, you almost scared me. For the first 47 minutes with your introductory conversation, we talk about the longest running sitcoms. Some of these are quite old. I didn't know Lassie. See if our form gets going on. Let's see what everybody's favorite. For sure, Seinfeld is my all time favorite. One of the best ones. We talk about Red Rover, the game that we played as kids. Since Sal right over. That allowed us to touch the opposite sex. We talk about Steal the Bacon and other banned games. These are games that we don't do anymore because we want our kids to be massive wimps. We talk about elementary school ploys to get girls' attention. These are all the tricks that we used in fourth grade to try to get girls to pay attention to us. We burned a girl's hair. 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Yeah, I think it's still going on. It's been for like 10 years, it's been like the longest running series of all time. Yeah, how long has it been on air? 20 something years? Oh yeah. They gotta have like the most characters out of anything. Like if you look at like a poster, I remember seeing a poster of all the characters in Simpsons that's like fills the entire wall. It's just really smart writing. How cool is that to be somebody who came up with that idea and then gets to write a cartoon for the rest of the time? So it originally aired 1989. Wow. That's a long time, man. That is a very long time. That's crazy. But it's great writing is what it is. 89 is almost 30 years, bro. That'll be 30 years next year. Yeah, actually is 30 years. Yep, yep. Dude, 30 years. That's a few generations. They created their own universe, really. That's what you do. Talk about how much you have to, this is what I love stuff like that too because you see this with some businesses and it's rare too. A lot of businesses, man, they can't weather the storm. Same thing with artists. Artists, business, and like TV series and shows. It's really tough to break beyond like 10 years. It's like people do a good job of like figuring out their niche. Once your audience outgrows you, then a lot of people are screwed. Right. You have to really evolve all the time. Well, the advantage is that the Simpsons has the biggest advantage I can see is that they are a cartoon. Now, a lot of people thought that was a disadvantage, but they had such good writing that being a cartoon was an advantage because the characters never aged. You know, cause that's, I mean, you do that with live, you do that with like a sitcom. Oh yeah. They get old. They get awkward teen, you know, years with the kids. Yeah. What do you do that? You know, what do you do? What are some of the longest running series that you can think of? Seinfeld, Roseanne. Seinfeld was long. Seinfeld and Friends used to be like, used to be like one of the record holders. Married with children was a long time too, Roseanne. Married with children, yeah. Was, is married with children that high? I think it was pretty good. It was for a while. Maybe Doug, you can look up longest running sitcoms of all time. Yeah. I know Seinfeld's up there with him. I'm pretty sure Roseanne's up there. But that was only, and even Seinfeld's only, that was like 10, 15 years. Like it's 30 years is crazy. It's like, it's not even close. Get the fuck out of here. Lassie and Gunsmoke. Lassie. Or the ones behind The Simpsons. See, look at no one else. That's all old shit, right? The newest is like, does it show more than that, Doug? Yeah, if he clicks on the link. I clicked the whole thing because I think, I mean, let's watch some, none of those are old. This was up to 1975 and like that's. What's that boy? Woo! Yeah. Lassie. Timmy's stuck in a hole on, you know, main and fourth, you know? It's like the fuck. Wow, I want to speak that word. Like interpreting the adult. Lawn order is another one. Never watch that. I never really got on. Dallas? Oh God, you know what? I hated fucking Dallas. Do you know why we hated Dallas? Cause we were young kids when that shit came out. So our parents would watch it. And we're like, ugh. It's a soap opera. Well, my grandmother watched Lawn Order. That was the, Justin, can you do the theme song? Or what's the, the din in it? How does it, jump, jump? No, that's a different one. I don't know. I don't remember it. I expect you to be able to do that. I know. I know. I never watched that shit. Cheers. Oh yeah. Cheers was another long one, right? That's right. That was a good one. All in the family, King of Queens, how I met your mother, everybody. So seasons with, or sitcoms with nine seasons. I guess that's the big. Oh yeah. I don't know why. Oh, Seinfeld's the top. I was like, we're Seinfeld. Oh, 11 seasons. Cheers, Frasier. I love scrubs. Marry with children, mash. Oh, you were right with Marry with children. Yeah, happy days. The Jeffersons, which was great. That was a great show. Do you know, I hate, you know, I also hated mash. Couldn't fucking stand mash. I hate it. Because there was like TV shows that I could watch. Cause this is when I was a young kid, right? And there were a few shows that I hated simply because it signified or symbolized, oh now I'm done watching TV. There was Soul Train, which when that came on, cartoons were done. We talked about that on Saturdays. Yeah. And mash was the same thing too. Yeah. When mash came on, I was like, oh man, all the good shows are done. All the good shows are done. Yeah, I know. No more bullshit. No more airwolf. I gotta watch this shit. Yeah. Yeah. Airwolf. All those depressing theme song. Airwolf is such a TV show that was like so unrealistic. You know what I mean? We're police officers that pull out this 50 million dollar, a billion dollar helicopter. Yeah, stealth helicopter. For random shit. Do you guys remember that game, mash? Do you guys remember how to play that game? Oh, shit. Mansion, apartment, shack, house. Was that the one where you like, it moves, it shifts like this paper thing? Was that the little fortune thing? I don't know if you did it with the Koochie catcher or whatever you called this. Koochie catcher? That is what it was called. It was called the Koochie catcher. Kootie catcher. Kootie catcher. Was it Koochie catcher? What she called the Koochie catcher? I think Adam was putting it on his hands. He's like, it's not working yet. He's like, come here, come here. Oh, hey. I thought it was called that. It wasn't called. No, Kootie catcher. Kootie catcher? Kootie catcher. But mash was, so you were supposed to pick four things, right? So it was the mansion, the apartment, the shack or the house. Right. And then. And then there was like four, I forget how this worked, man. I know somebody in our forum will remember this and they will post it. This was a game designed specifically for boys and girls to flirt with each other before we knew what to do. Totally. You know what I mean? So like, you would go up to a girl that you kind of like. This was like fourth grade. You'd be like, hey, do you want to play, you know, I do mash or whatever. It's like, yeah. And that's the way you talk to her. No, the best game of all time for like flirty stuff, awkward. You're a hot girl, but I don't know what to do. Like it's called like, honey, I love you, but I just can't smile. And so you sit in this chair and they're supposed to like try and make you smile. And inevitably they end up like giving you a lap dance. Tickling hands. Oh my God. What? Yeah. What kind of games are you guys playing out out of the country? I don't know. That's what always happened, dude. I've never played that game. It was always like trying to tickle you or this or that. And then like. What the hell are you playing, Justin? Maybe I was just around a bunch of free women. You guys never played Pokey Poke? Yeah. You guys never played just a tip? Yeah. There's some country games out there, dude. No, I'll tell you the game that everybody played. He never played that. Here's a game that everybody played and it was a way for you to be able to like touch each other but it not be awkward. And that was Red Rover. Oh. Remember that? Red Rover, Red Rover. And then you'd end up. Send Sal on over. Yeah. You're all, this is a game now that's banned, by the way. You guys know this, right? Remember Steal the Bacon, same thing. It's Steal the Bacon banned? I used to love clothes on people. And dodgeball, all those. Well I know why dodgeball is because you're blasting each other but why is Steal the Bacon? Because kids getting hurt, man. It's so funny to think about. From Steal the Bacon? Yeah, you remember two kids go after it at the same time, heads for head first thing. Bro, we did Red Rover. Red Rover was real. On asphalt. Yeah. And kids fell on their heads on asphalt. So we need to tell the audience who doesn't know what this is. So what you do is you have two sides and many times it was girls versus boys. This is how you flirted. So the girls are on one side and they form a line and they hold hands as strong and tight as they can. So they form this big line. And then the guys form a line on the other side. Now sometimes it was mixed up in co-ed but sometimes it was boys and girls. And then what you do is your side decides who they're gonna call over. And you say, so you say Red Rover, Rover, we call Jennifer right over and her goal is to run through the line and break through the hands. And so inevitably you'd like hold your hands and then she'd run through. Oh, we're accidentally hugging you or whatever. But the thing, the way we play was much more violent. Well, this is the thing. The girls could never break through the line of the guys, right? The guys, we didn't know how to flirt back then properly. So we're like, I'm just gonna show these girls how strong I am. So you just, yeah, you just fucking barrel through them. Jack, you're not going anywhere. What was the purpose of the game? Now that's part of how you played it but how did you win? Do you remember? You have the most people. If you don't break through, then you have to join their line. Yeah. So eventually. Whoever has the most people in their line. Yeah. So if you run and you break through then you get to pull someone over. If you don't break through, then you have to stay on that line. Steal the bacon was much more straightforward. This is back when games naturally selected the strongest kids. You know what I mean? Naturally. Yeah. And there was no like, if you sucked at it, you sucked at it. That's just life. There's no like cry corner for you to go fucking complain about it. I remember, God, this just made me remember something terrible when I was a kid. I feel so bad now. There was this really, because I'm thinking right now of these games, I'm thinking of all the kids that would have a tough time. And it was usually the really awkward, you know, kind of not very athletic type of kids or whatever. But I do remember playing softball once. It must have been fifth grade. And there was this like really nerdy girl with these big old glasses. Poor girl. She was so sweet or whatever. And I'm in the outfield. They hit the ball, ground ball. I pick it up. And I was trying to include her in the game. So I throw the ball at her. She wasn't even paying attention. Oh, God. She wasn't even paying attention. Dude, blasted her right in the face. Dude, how intense did you do that to people? Dude, it's the old lady in the head. What an asshole. Man, I mean, I burned some girls' hair. So I'm, you know, I'm an asshole. On purpose, though. I did it on accident. Yeah. That's true. That's true. You lit a chick's hair on fire? Yeah. I mean, I get bored like in class. Bro, that's a terrible excuse. She was right in front of me. I don't know. I was like a pyro when I was like a kid, you know? Like I had like a little like lighter. And I was so stoked on this little lighter I got from like Chinatown. It was like one of the Zippo ones. Yeah. And I'm just like doing that whole thing where you're taking the cap off, cap off, like hitting it, hitting like this. Yeah. And then I just saw her hair there. And I grabbed like a piece of it and just started lighting it. I didn't even think about it. I didn't think about what I was doing. How flammable it was. Yeah. And it like started smoking. I was like, oh, and then I was like, like I hit it real. Anyway, she turned around and was really mad and I got in trouble. But yeah, that's how old are you in that? I was probably in like fourth grade or something. Oh, wow. This is this is the kind of shit that if you did that today in fourth grade, they wouldn't call your parents. Oh, that would be a big ordeal. Everybody. That would be a big old, big old deal. I was just a little shit. I posted in my Insta story, my high school picture. I saw that. I got a bunch of people, random people that go to like Oakdale and that live out there. And they're like, what? You're from there. And I'm like, oh, that's so funny. I forget we haven't talked about that on the show. Yeah, the hat on and everything. Yeah, you're the same. Yeah, a little fedora hat. Little chair of face. Yeah. Your young little chair of face. So awesome. So awesome. Yeah, that's my brother. When he was a kid, he had a crush on a girl and he was in maybe fourth or fifth grade. Had a huge crush on this girl and, you know, was kind of teasing her or whatever like you do. She was running to line because the bell rang and he thought it'd be fun to trip her because he thought it'd be hilarious. She fell and broke both arms. Oh, my God. Both arms. I can't even laugh at that. Both arms. So then she had to come to school with her arms and pass like this where they're up. No. And so he, for like three months, he had to do all of her work for her. That was his punishment. The worst part about this is this girl ended up growing up to be this gorgeous model that it continues till this day to have a crush on. And he's gonna be so mad when he hears this. But she, but they're friends and I tell, like I mess with them. I'm always like, she will never like you. No matter what you do. Both her arms, bro. That was a traumatizing experience for her. Like you can be the sad. Dude, I used to try and get the girl's attention like by like throwing stuff at them. And you know, like totally a horrible idea. You know, you're not going to win them over by just like pestering them. No, not at all. But like when you're like a boy, you don't really know what to do yet. The ultimate was this. How about this? This is the ultimate thing that I love so much because then, you know, the girls are like pulling on you and pushing you when they try to force you in the girl's bathroom or they try to force you. Remember that? Remember when girls are grabbed? Put him in the girl's bathroom. He'd be like, no. All these girls are pushing you. Actually, you're fighting again. Oh, what's up? What's going on? Wait a second. You were so much stronger at Red Rover just a minute ago. Oh, no. I can't overcome the two of you. We were, you know what we did? Like the excuse to touch it. Now you put someone in the girl's bathroom. They're like, oh, you must be assuming a different gender. I don't know if kids do this still or not. But when we were in middle school, the way you were like flirting with a girl was it was like hugs. It was hugs on the way out, right? So that's middle school for sure. Right, between classes. Between class on the way home. Yeah, on the way home. Like any excuse of like. Hugging your girl. Yeah, hugging your girl goodbye. It was like, so you hugged every chick goodbye. And it was like, yeah, as a boy. You know how funny that is now as an adult if I saw some kid doing that? I'd be like, get the fuck out of here with that shit. You don't even hug everybody because you're going to the bathroom, dude. You'll be a weird, overly friendly, hippie guy. You'll be back in five minutes, bro. She'll see you at the third period, dude. You know what's funny? There's still, I'm not going to say who or where because I know you guys are going to know. But there's adult people that do that also. I know. Where you show, no, we're huggers. And it's like, oh, guys, I have a meeting hug, hug, hug. Yeah, I kind of laughed. There was this guy in Santa Cruz that had set up a little table and like a chair. And he was just like, like free hugs. And like, I'll listen to you. Like that's like his whole, which I think is great. You know, that was a great thing. But it was, I was just laughing because like people would take them up on that and they'd just be sitting there hugging, hugging it out, sitting down and, you know, talking. And I was like, I guess it's really rare. You know, once you're a kid, you know, and it's like you just hug people. Yeah, because for sure, when you're in middle school, I'm pretty sure, Adam, that you weren't hugging your guy friends when you'd leave. No, no, no, no, no, it's the girls. You're hugging all the girls. When guys hug, it's kind of like a, like you have to be a little tough with it. You know what I mean? Like you kind of hug and then hit the back. So I was moving this weekend, right? So I'm going through like all of that. I was finding like, I found a box of like photos, dude, that like all my like, when I was really young, right? And one of the things that was super popular that I forgot about that was, you know, in this box is I had all my wallet inserts, back when it was really popular to keep pictures. Pictures of all girls. All girls. You're saying like all cheerleaders? Yeah, why would you have pics of your friends? Like your guy friends? I was looking at it and I'm like, this is so funny. And I remember I had girlfriends at the time too, but it was still like you collected all as many hot chicks as you could get. It's like you got your collection of like baseball cards and football cards and then you got your girls, you know. And I was trying to figure out like, what is it about that? But then I remember like, okay, well it was like a commodity because, you know, every kid that got pictures in high school and middle school, you know, your parents bought like a package. You know, it was like. Pictures were a scarcity. Yeah, like 10 left over or something. Yeah, like 12. It's not like today where it's fucking pictures. Yeah, you get like 12 photos. So, you know, this. You got one. Right, if you got one of the hot chicks, 12 photos, that's a big deal. You know what I'm saying? It was. And so the fact that you could show it to your buddy and you'd be like, dude, you got fucking. Yeah, you got so it sells. You got Jennifer Smith's photo? Yeah, dude, we're cool. It was like that. Nobody cares. We're taking it slow. Nowadays, imagine if you did that nowadays, dude, you're showing your friend your phone like, why do you have Jennifer Smith's photo on your phone, you fucking freak. Yeah, it's such a weirdo. It would be, right? It would be a total. That's like something that has totally evolved that doesn't exist anymore, that that was a big deal back then. It was. It was to have that. And I think about how stupid it is to, because normally like a grown ass man has a wallet and he might have pictures of his kid back. And we don't even do that anymore, right? That's evolved out since phones. Like who keeps even pictures of their kids in them. But when we were kids, my dad did that. You know, your dad and your mom would have those little inserts and they have pictures of their kids and so that was very common, right? In the same like soccer pose, you know. Yes, yes. Of the ball. Yes. Dude. Yes, yes, face. But I went through all the, I had all that stuff. Kids today will never know the mystery of taking a photo and having to wait until that shit gets developed to see if it was a good photo. They don't know that, you know what I mean? You take a photo and you're like, ooh, I hope it was good. Right. You don't know if it was good and then you get it. You're like, fuck, all of them, my eyes are closed. Did you guys have red eyes and all of them are shit? A memorable picture, like for school, that was like the worst one ever. Yeah. I have one like that was the worst. Like the day, literally the day before I was walking home with my friend and we were walking past this puddle and there was just like maybe like 10 yellow jackets and I just walked right through. Two of them like flew on me and one of them flew right on my eye and stung me like repeatedly on my eye. Like right before picture day, the next day, like swole up like a beach ball, dude. I had like a slit that I could even see out of. That's your photo? Yeah, so they thought that it'd be a great idea to turn me sideways and do like a profile. So you could see this big, huge, like lumpy eye. They tried to save him, but it's been worse. They tried, it is not safe, they made it way worse. My fourth grade one, I wore a hat, right? My mom was so mad. She was so mad at me when I came home with that. I wore a hat in it and that was back, remember when you, this was popular to wear the hat like this? Yeah. Oh, bro, I would, I do the bangs? Yeah, then you combed it. You did that too? Of course, oh my God. You wear the hat up high and then you comb the bangs all the time. I thought that was just a surfer thing. And then I had a fucking mullet and then I had a long, oh my God. I had like, the hat was kicked up. I had the wave. It was like some like fluorescent color hat. It was sometimes. I was rocking a Dodger's hat. As a kid, I was rocking a Cincinnati Reds hat for some reason. Oh man, it was such a terrible picture. I was in four, it must have been fourth grade and right around fourth grade is when you start to, maybe fourth or fifth or sixth grade, when you start to comb your hair. Because before that you don't give a shit, you go to school or whatever. So I'm like, I told my mom, like can you comb my hair for me? Like I need to, I want to look cool. I told my mom specifically, I said, give me a cool hairstyle. So my mom's like, okay, my mom doesn't know what a cool hairstyle is. Which is funny, looking back now, you're like, I would never ask my mom for a cool. She got moose. You guys remember moose? Does anybody use moose anymore? Anyway, she got moose, put it in my hair, spiked it so that it was spiky, but it was spiky all the way around. So it was like a porcupine. Yeah, so it was completely spiky, back, front, top, everything. You had a helmet of spikes. But then here's the best part. In the front, she pulled bangs down. So I have bangs. What? Yeah, so I have bangs. Tell me you have a picture of this. Oh, not only do I have a picture, if you guys ever get invited over to my parents' house for dinner, that is one of the photos that is up in my parents' house. And I love it because whenever I have guests over that know me, I'll show them that picture, I'll be like, hey, check this out. And they'll always piss their pants. I'll be like, what the fuck happened? Like, that was my mom's style of my hair. It looks like a terrible supercuts ad. You know what I mean? Where you go to the supercuts and like, I'll pick, not that one. That one's fucking weird. I'll pick this one over here, that's, you know? Do you know what else we used to do is, I don't know why, I think I did this all the way from like fourth grade, all the way to about high school. And I think this is that as a boy when you're growing up, you want to be bigger than what you are. So I always wore shoes, like two sizes too big. You always wanted it. I always wanted like bigger feet. You sure it wasn't so you didn't have to buy more shoes? There's probably a little bit of, there's probably a little bit. I'm sure your mom will convince you, I guess. My idea. Probably. Hey buddy, you're such a big guy, we're gonna get you to size you. Cause my uncle really kicked us down some fucking 12. So that was only eight. Then when your feet get too big, we're gonna turn these into sandals, you know what I mean? Just cut the front off or two. Maybe it was just me. Was it just me? No one, no one wore bigger shoes. You were closing yourself, bro. Yeah, I don't know about that one. Cause I definitely didn't wear shoes. Maybe a little bigger, but not really. Yeah, I remember always wearing bigger shoes. Did I always want the bigger pair of shoes? That's hilarious. And I don't know why, and then I just remember getting into high school. And you know what it was? When in high school and I had to wear shoes for sports, it was like you didn't want big shoes for sports, but as a kid, wearing them around like, yeah, I always wore. I remember, you guys don't, you don't remember being like in fifth and sixth grade and you and all your friends all comparing your shoe sizes? Like however, cause you're growing at that age. And so like every year. It's measuring cocks. It is, it's like that's, you are measuring before. You do that too. Yeah, as it comes to a couple years later. We don't talk about that. You start with shoes first. You start with shoes first and you're talking about what size shoe you are. And I remember that being a big deal. So I remember being like competitive with my friends on how big our feet were. Totally. Yeah, yeah, I do remember that. I remember putting on layers of shirts so I could appear bigger. I definitely remember that. I did that. I was a skinny kid. So I was like, yeah. A wife beater, a t-shirt, an undershirt and then a t-shirt. And the undershirt, when you play basketball, I would like, I would wear an undershirt for a while cause I was like all self conscious about my skinny, arms and body. Really? Or not having an armpit hair. Oh, I had it early. Did you have it early? Oh yeah, I was, man, I hit puberty pretty damn quick. Did you have it before high school? Armpit hair? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, see, I didn't get armpit hair until I was a freshman. Well, you were a lay bloomer. Yeah. You didn't get tall later? Yeah. So a majority of my height hit me eighth grade and ninth grade. That was a majority of like, and then I was just skinny as fuck. And then I started working out a lot of stuff, but no, for sure. I hit that real early. My brother was like, you, my brother, we thought was gonna be a small kid. And sophomore year, he went from like five, eight to like six, one or two, like overnight poor kids. His legs were hurting from other growing pains and shit like that. Yeah, and no, it was really awkward for me from sophomore to junior years. It was sophomore summer going into junior year. I sprouted up all the way up to six foot. I'm watching my son right now go through some growth spurts. It's like almost like every month he'll grow around a half an inch around a half an inch, maybe a little bit more every month so far. But what's funny is his arms and legs are growing fast. This is what happens when you're a kid, by the way. You don't necessarily, no, actually no, you definitely typically don't grow proportionally. It's like feet explode first or, and you see when you see a 13, 14 year old boy, you see them walking around. You're like, well, you're gonna be tall. How do you know? Because your feet don't match the rest of you. Such a great like awkward time. Yeah, so right now his arms and legs are growing real long. So he cracks me up. I'm like, you look like a spider. And we start laughing. It was like, why do you say that? So your arms are so long. Did I tell you guys you started working out? Oh, he did. Yeah. On his own or what? How'd that happen? So I've been waiting until he shows a little bit of interest. And he's mentioned a couple of things. Like he said, first he said to me, like he's like, why am I skinny? Why am I so skinny? And I started laughing. And I'm like, I'm so glad he's comfortable enough to say that to me. And I'm like, well, it's because you're my son. That's your genetics. I said, you are that way. I said, that's why I started working out. And he's like, well, I eat a lot of food. And I'm like, well, you can eat a lot of food. But if you don't lift weights, then your body's not gonna really know what to do with it. And so you're not gonna gain any muscle. So then when I took him to the park and we did a few exercises and stuff. And then I waited two days and they took him to the park again. And he did a little bit more. And so I did my infamous, your body's fundamentally different than it was two days ago, speech or whatever. And I could see in his face was a little bit like, oh, and it's starting to kind of- Oh, wow. That'd be interesting if he starts doing it now. Dude, we'll see what happens. You know, he's his own person. But if he ends up getting, if that bug ends up biting him, and my daughter too, she's really young though. She's only eight. But if that bug ends up biting him and he ends up really getting into it, I will be the best thing in the world to be able to work out with my own boy and lift weights and that stuff. Like what a dream, you know what I mean? What a fucking dream. It'll be so awesome. It'll be really cool. Well, how's your guys' weekend? Moving, dude, you kidding? Oh, weekend? Well, we just, so we, I feel so bad. I thought you sold everything. Well, I mean a lot. So we are gonna, it's gonna cost me more money to fucking dump than it is to move my stuff. What? Yeah, dude. That's true. It's gonna cost me more money to fucking dump my- You need to put it out on your driveway and say free, go on a free cycle. It's been there all week. And nobody wants it? We garage sell, we did all kinds of stuff. Like, yeah, I think, I mean, here's what I did because I didn't want nothing to do with it. Cause I told Katrina, I said, light it all on fire. I don't give a fuck. Yeah, that's all I am. I got it. I literally bought, there's like three boxes. You're not gonna dump it on the freeway on the side of the freeway? No. Like those motherfuckers said it. I literally boxed up like three, like good size boxes. And then we have, of course, my clothes and the closet and stuff, right? And then my stacks of shoes. And I'm like, this is like all I care about. Like everything else, like it can go. And I'm like, I'm okay with burning it. And so we made a deal with her, her sister and her brother who are totally down to hustle it off and said, listen to me, whatever you guys sew, we'll split 50-50. So if you wanna come over here and open up my place and garage sell shit and hustle it off. And so they did. But I mean, I would've never done that. Like just to set up alone for all that. I mean, they made, Yeah, I think they made like 500 bucks or something like that. I mean, it's for all day long for some bullshit like that. So you had good activity and neat this weekend? No, in fact, my Achilles was kinda killing me this weekend because every day was over 16,000 steps, which has been, that's a high day still for you. Are you guys living at your new place yet? No, so Katrina's moving all by herself while we're gone right now, dude. Yeah, I know. I feel hella bad. Dang. Yeah, I know, right now. So she's... You know what? She can't get mad cause she's the one that booked the interview for us. Well, yeah. So she sounds like we've been... Well, she knew. She's like, oh, how weird. I gotta be gone. She's like, you know, she's all, if it was any other little interviewer at that, but this is a big deal, you know? Go down and do Bishop Baron is a big deal for us. So, you know, she's like that. And that was the only one of the few days he could do it. So we were... Did anybody help in her? Yeah, you know, she's got both of her brothers helping her. We have somebody else is coming in to help her with stuff or paying people to handle most of it. So she's gonna be, so there's one, she literally is carrying our mattress. That is the only thing that is of size. Everything else can be carried in a box. So it's not like she's, I would feel bad if she was like carrying couches and big furniture and tables. Like we are literally not bringing any of that stuff. It's all, it's all going. So... It's all the small dishes and shit like that. Even that, bro. I'm not taking dishes. I'm taking shit. What the hell are you moving then? Like, well, I mean, there's still a lot of stuff. You know, there's stereo and there's like some things like that. Like, I'm not bringing the TVs. I'm not bringing, but when you start, you figure she's been in that place for like eight years or something like that. And before that, she's only, so for me, I had the least amount of stuff, I think. I mean, I had big stuff, right? I have a snowboard, I have a quad. I have the shoe collection. Like I have some big things like that, but those are all easy things to move. She's got shit, just tons of shit from like being there for a really long time and not moving as many times. Like this is my, she was telling me last night, like she came up to me and she held me and kissed me and she's just like, you know, I just wanna, I wanna thank you for just being the way you are. This whole process has been so much better with, she's like, I don't know what it would have been like if you were even in the slightest bit stressed because I've just been like whatever about everything. Yeah, you wanna do that? Sure, cool. Yeah, okay, yeah, we can do that. I'll just pay someone to do that. Okay, cool, whatever. And she's like, it's crazy. She's like, I'm never the stressed one and I feel all stressed out about stuff. And I'm like, you know, honey, it's not a big deal. I said, you know, the way I look at it is pack up the stuff that is really, really important to you. Like get that in, like put that aside that stuff that you could just not live without and that's important. And then the rest of this shit, man, if it doesn't get packed up in time or it's too much of a hassle, fucking get rid of it. Just don't even worry about it. It's good to purge though, right? It does, but it's moving is for sure one of the more stressful things that you do. Well, so check this out. So nine times as a kid, three times as an adult, another 10 times going back to help my mother out. So when I was a kid growing up, we moved into nine different places. So of course I had been in the old this. I was of course in the middle of all of it helping. It wasn't like I was like a child who got to just watch his parents move. I fucking moved everything. So I did it nine times there. And then I moved out at 17. I've moved three times since I've been adult personally myself and almost every year like clockwork since I left when I was 20 years old from the valley where my mom was at, my mom was moving in a house. And so of course she calls her son every single time she's moving. And so I drive back and move her. So I told Katrina, I'm like, this is like, I've done this so many times. No problem. Yeah, I don't give a shit. That makes sense. I've only moved, I moved once as a kid, once. And then as an adult, I moved twice or three times, three times. Yeah, that's Katrina. She's literally can count on one hand how many times that she's had moved a bunch. When you were a kid? Yeah, well, even going to Chicago, going to multiple places in Chicago, coming back here. I think moving when you're like a 20-something-year-old kid though, so different. Nobody gets like, I'll bring my air mattress and my fucking computer. Yeah, like five things. Yeah, we had a lot of stuff. Like the dump at the dump runs, we have to get a U-Haul for the dump and it will take more. You can't call people to come pick that shit up and haul it? Man, and they spook it a month out. Fuck, oh, there's a little bit of a demand there for a business. It's expensive, man. It's very expensive. I've done it like once, maybe, was to just take all of my junk and shit for me to the dump, but like it's, yeah, it's way cheaper to define somebody with like a truck that you can. That's about the only thing that's annoying for me is, you know, it's the move itself and I'm not like doing anything crazy. I mean, it's gonna cost 10,000, you know, to just move and it's just worth. And that's not even buying new shit? Or is that included? Oh, no, it's not including. Like, yeah, when we had to go buy more furniture. You can't spend another 10 grand at least. Yeah, yeah, so it'll be, you know, total like a $20,000 hit just to transfer and move. But that's of course, because I am getting rid of stuff. So that's totally, right, exaggerating. And you're hiring people. Right, hiring people to do it, we're moving, we're throwing away stuff. It's gonna cost me like $1,500 just to throw away shit, you know? So, which I could have used as furniture if I wanted to at the new place, which is not, that's gonna cost me whatever, so. But so you're buying furniture you're gonna keep for a while? Well, that's what I told Katrina, too. I was like, the idea is that, and that's why she was like, you don't even wanna bring dishes. I'm like, listen, you can bring four plates, four cups, four forks, four, like four of everything. That's it. That's enough for us to have a dinner together, have something in the dishwasher and then be able to eat again and then do it like that. Now, do you go with her after to pick out everything or are there certain things you care about and are there things you're like, pick out the dishes, I don't care? So, there is a little bit of a, there's a little bit of debate going on here right now between her and I. So the one, here's, and she got you listening to the show. I love you, honey. But out of the two of us, I think I have the bitter taste when it comes to like, putting stuff together like that, right? So, don't stir it up, hey, don't stir it up more, assholes. The day this episode airs, she's gonna get random flowers, like, why did he get this? Well, when you guys come to the house, you'll see like, so we've already been in the house and it's a try level, right? So, and it's kind of a different layout the way it's set up. And I already have an idea of like, okay, well, this makes sense, this will be kind of like a study, we'll put, you know, a bookshelf right here and two chairs and a coffee thing, but the fireplace and this will be kind of, kind of like how you have in front of yours. We have like a little, you know, one of the little areas is like that, right? So it'll be, and she's, she wants to do the living room and TV there. And I'm like, it just doesn't make sense. It doesn't make sense to put it there. The fireplace is over here. The wall where the TV would be would be over here. You wouldn't be able to fit a piece of furniture there. It doesn't make sense. You'd turn it into like this whole study. Then the next level up is like this little dining table area and that has a light that's supposed to be above it. You could tell it's designed for that. So that's where I would put the dining table. She wants to put furniture there. I'm like, it's not a place where you put furniture. It doesn't make sense to put it there. And then the next, then there's another room that's right by the kitchen that is like open that we could put either a giant like, you know, kitchen table, which we never would use unless it was Thanksgiving or a big family event or what like that. Or we can convert it into another like lounge couch area. And so we just, we were going back and forth on this like what should be there. And I just don't think that she has the ability to like see like the furniture there. She looks at it and like, oh, we could, we can make it whatever we want to make it. I said, well, yeah, we can make it whatever we want, but why don't we make it the way it should be? I'm definitely not, I'm definitely not. Jessica's the designer. I'm basically like, do what you want. It usually looks good. If I do it, it's gonna be like, you know, it'll be like one couch, a TV. Well, have you, have you been in my master bedroom at my house right now? No. Okay, so. Well, I mean, I have, but not when you're there. So. I couldn't help myself. Well, I served that one up too easy. So. Trying to jump out the window real quick. Yeah. I'm like, I don't know if I should say yes or no. I'm just kidding. So Katrina and, Katrina and Everett, you know, they were there before I was, and it totally was like a bachelor pad. I mean. It was like nothing on the walls? Nothing on the walls. And the front, none of the furniture match, the throw pillows on the furniture match, no rugs matched anything. There was no, like the Feng Shui was fucked. And I, for a long time, I had a really hard time with it until I broke down one time and I'm like, fuck this, like I'm converting our, I'm going to redo our entire master bedroom, like the way I would want to. So, you know, I had an interior designer come in, we had, I painted all the walls, I changed all the furniture out to match everything. Yeah, you definitely do like that stuff. Yeah. It matters to you a lot. And even in the studio, when things get, you know, things get put up. Yeah. That's something that you're really interested in. I do, you know, and I'm sure it's, it goes all the way back to childhood shit. Yeah, whatever. It's just, you like it. Yeah, I appreciate it. Yeah, the way I look at it is, if you're with a partner, one of the best things you can do is recognize when that person's better. It's just like a business partnership. You recognize what that person, first off, if you really enjoy something, the odds that you'll be good at it are much higher, right? Cause you care. Yeah. I'm the kind of person that I don't necessarily care. So I'm probably not going to be good at it cause I really don't care. If I put my mind to it, could I be good at it? Maybe, but it would take a lot of years of caring before I started to become good. Yeah, like, you'll give you an example. Like we were, I'm looking at stuff and I'm going over the shit that she's keeping and not keeping. And then there's these two gray pillows that she's got and she's packing. I'm like, why are you packing these? She's like, oh, these are gray pillows. We could use these for the, I said, we don't even have the new couches. We haven't even picked them out. You're going to bring- You're going to match the couch to the pillows? Yeah, I'm going to, you're going to match a couch to pillows? 10 dollar pillows? That makes, she's like, they're more than 10 dollars. They're nice pillows. I'm like, I don't care, but you're not going to, I'm not going to let you keep pillows that you're just going to, where you're going to put on a couch that probably won't look anything right with those fucking pillows. Pillows are gone. So that's the type of shit that she would do. You know what I'm saying? I would never do that. I would never match a couch to fucking 10 dollar pillows. It just wouldn't ever happen. You should have seen my place when I lived in Palm Springs, where I hadn't a part. It was the first time I ever moved out of my house and I had an apartment and literally had a mattress on the floor in my room. Godfather poster. I had a Scarface poster close. I had a couch, a TV, and a fold out table for the kitchen table and fold out chairs. And that's how I lived. And I was perfectly content and no problems at all. Yeah, that was driving me crazy. Oh yeah, of course. I know what, because that's your thing. If I lived with you, I would for sure be like, hey bro, you pick it out. I'll pay half, high five. You'd be happy. I'd be happy. That'd be all it. So far, I mean, we actually, we picked the whole master bedroom out together. So we did do that together. I just want to be a part of it. We're normally like, there's a lot of things. I'm like, hey, whatever, do whatever. You just let me know what it's going to cost us. But because we're moving, this will be the first house. We're like moving in together. You know what I'm saying? And then we're going to put it all together. Like I'll want to, I'll want to say. I like to pick out a few things, dishes. Don't ask me why I like to pick out dishes. It's kind of random. It's really random. It's really random. Yeah, that's the least thing. It's really weird. I just, for whatever reason, I like to pick out the dishes. That's actually the only thing I probably don't care to be a part of. I have no idea why. That is funny. And then the electronics. That's it. I like to pick out the TV and, and you know, whatever electronics we get. Other than that. I don't care. I really don't finish it at all. So, dude, so this weekend, I watched a movie that for sure you guys are going to make fun of me for, but it was fucking good movie. Uh oh. Yeah. Did you guys ever watch the first Mamma Mia? Mamma Mia? Yeah. No. You don't watch the first one? Dude. The second one's really good. Is Mamma Mia, It's a musical. Oh, it's a musical? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Do you guys like musicals? No. Really? No. West Side Story? No. It was a decent musical. And I- Les Miserables? No. Did you watch that? Even more recent than that. Did you like that? I've been, I've been to those, like in person. Aren't they great? Yeah, well, I've been to like Phantom of the Opera and these, I mean, those are great date nights, but it's not like, I'm not like- Yeah! Just because you get in some after this. You don't get enthralled? You don't get enthralled? No, I don't. Really? No. Musicals will- Have you seen The Greatest Showman? Yeah, loved it. That one was- Loved it. That was decent. Musicals for me invoke more emotion in me than regular movies too. That's weird. Yeah, because- That's really weird. Well, music in general is designed to invoke emotion. You like to pick the dishes out and you love musicals. Yeah, I don't, I don't, I don't- Well, I mean, I don't get Fretch Tip toenails. Exactly, I don't. I don't hate the toenails. Yeah, and I don't do that- Totally different. And I don't work at pre-store. You guys confuse me. Which, by the way, that's funny you brought that up because I was, I'm gonna, I'm gonna surprise Enzo and I'm gonna take him. Oh my God. To get his toes done? Yeah, I'm gonna tell him. Don't tell him anything. That's kind of borderline weird. Yeah. I don't know. Why is it weird? Just take him to go do something else. That's kind of weird. I can drop in some game on the youngster, do you? Toenails? Yes, dude. Why do we have to go through this? It's been fucking, we've talked about this a million times. Yeah, I know, but I don't know. It's just- He's saying, I'm gonna, you know what? If I would look, okay, here's why it's weird. If I was a 17-year-old kid, interning at a place, and my boss was like, hey, hey bro, come here. You know, you've been doing a good job. Come hang out with me. And then we get our toes done. Here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna talk about what comes after. I'd be like, why are we going on here, man? I don't know if I feel comfortable with this. His dad might get a little weird today. You're bossing, you what? Exactly, bro. His dad gave him permission to come with us on this trip. And then we had soft serve ice cream cones. He's gonna go- And then he climbed into his fucking black minivan. Just don't buy him underwear or some other weird shit. He's gonna go home. His dad's gonna be like, you're never going back to that place again. Yeah, you get your toes done. Fair enough. Maybe I'll rethink that one. What's the thing about that one? Take him out to lunch, dude. Yeah. Anyway, it was a good fucking movie. And the day before, Justin, I know you like to hike and stuff. Do you ever hike Uvis Canyon? I have not. Do you ever heard of that place? I have, yeah. In Morgan Hill. Fucking awesome hiking. What a great place. It's close because it's in Morgan Hill, but that's not why I'm telling you the story. So when you get to Uvis Canyon, you have to drive through this private, it's called Swedish community, okay? It's called Sven somethingsvander, or something like that. I'm gonna look it up. Sven's fan. Because it feels entirely like a cult. Like, yes, it's very strange. You have to drive through, it's a private community, but people live there. Do they all like wear the same stuff? They all look the same. They're all weird as fuck. And then if you drive a smidge over five miles an hour, no joke, they come out and look at you all mean and go slow down. And I feel like I'm gonna get, there it is. It's fucking, oh yeah, Svedal. It feels weird, dude. It feels, it's in the woods, it's private, I feel like they do their own thing. Where? Where? On the, in Morgan Hill. In Morgan Hill. It's really, really weird. And you have to drive through it to get to this park. So it's very, see, look, see, they're all fucking, dude, it's a creepy fucking place, dude. I don't understand it. Now, I've never hung out there, so I'm making a passing judgment. Yeah, a bunch of Swedish people that all live in the same area. They're all just kind of colonized in one spot. Look, look what they do. I don't know, bro. I feel like they have the same religion. They all do some weird shit. Who knows what happened. Maybe they're all naked at night and fucking do weird. They sacrifice things. I don't know. It just, it gives me that vibe. I didn't hang out there. So I'm just passing, purely passing judgment on driving through. And maybe a little mad because they told me to slow down even though I was driving seven miles an hour. I think that's probably what it is. But I did feel like, if I got out and got angry with them, that they'd like, the whole community would come out and like, kind of swarm me slowly. And I'd get in the mood. You know my favorite character of the Muppets? Dude, Swedish chef all day. Oh, he's the best dude. Beers, skibir, skibir, skibir. Mark, mark, mark. You don't like, you don't like beaker? Oh yeah. Me, me, me, me, me. Yeah, beaker was a good one. Beaker was a good one. And honey do. But anyway, so I did a hike. So I was active too. Nutrition was on point too. I'm assuming yours was on point, Adam. Yeah, no, I'm dialed in right now. How about you, Justin Beyer? Yeah, I was on point. Clearing out my house, doing a bit of purging myself to kind of get ready for, you know, building up this squat rack and getting the PRX stuff in there. You mean the one that doesn't fit? Yeah. What? Yeah, I wasn't going to talk about that because I wanted the weight to have it all assembled and then promote it properly. But yeah, I got two of the arms for it, like that go up into the ceiling were for like a, like a 11 foot, yeah, 11 and a half foot ceiling. Who the fuck has 11 and a half foot ceiling? I guess if you're putting it in your garage or a gym or something. So that threw me off, dude. Cause what happens is when you, when you put it back to the wall, it goes up. It's so like the measurements. So I had it, I had it to where like the six foot one, it goes up, I could fit it. But I have like these, these eight foot poles. So you're going to make it work? So what, what I think what I, what I'm going to be able to do is be able to send them back. And then they're going to send me the six foot ones and I'll stall that and get it ready and then go. But yeah, I had Enzo come up to film it and everything was total bust. I was pissed. Oh, well that's going to be good though when you get that part. So I did that and then, you know, and then hiked and then took the kids down to the creek and, you know, and then what else? I start to visit you, dude. I feel like your house is in a cool place. Oh yeah. Cause it sounds so- You haven't been out there? I've never been out to a house. Oh yeah. He hasn't invited me. My damn. I don't want to be rude. I've been mentioned it several times. I haven't invited you last Thursday to come up to this. Well, I don't know, dude. I don't know if I trust him. He might sneak his way into your master bedroom, bro. You're fucking, I keep you away from my house too. And they went, you know, that's true. Yeah. That's a valid point. Speaking of people sending us stuff, isn't Juve supposed to send us another red light? Well, they have a new one. Don't they, Doug? Didn't they get a new light? Yeah, it has a few new features to it. I think there's some Wi-Fi things you can do with it. So here's what we're going to do. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Raise your hand if you think Adam should keep the one he has, and that new one should come here. Two hands down. Yeah. I want Adam's old one. Wait a second, tell me how this new one works. I didn't know there was Wi-Fi on it. So I could listen to music maybe while I'm doing it? Yeah, it has a built-in Bluetooth function that allows for a personalized experience with the Juve app. Oh, shit. So you could do different kinds of lights. Oh, shit. You could hook it up to Alexa. Alexa, I want to Juve for 10 minutes. Turns it on. Yeah. Pretty cool stuff. That is really cool. Wow, that is really, really cool. I wonder how you personalize it. I wonder what else it does. You know, I don't know. I get one, though. I know, or maybe there's real similar like what the sunlight sauna does. I know you can do like. So I guess it says there's a, so I'm reading the little points here that Doug pulled up. New modular design, which allows you to build a full body system now or over time. Oh, I see. So you could buy pieces. I like that. So you could buy one small panel maybe. Is that what they're saying? And then you can enlarge it. So you could start with one and be like, see if you like it and then expand it type of deal. That's pretty cool. I wish I could use it more often because I love, when we did have it here, I did use it consistently for about a week and it did feel good. No, it does. It absolutely does. It's like, and I like having it in my house because it's like when I come straight out of the shower it's perfect. I'll come straight out of the shower. So you dry yourself? Yeah. I just sit at the edge of the bed. I just sit at the edge of bed and like I'll normally answer some emails when I'm sitting there and I'm just getting blasted by it. It's perfect, man. Oh, that's so cool. When it was here, I wasn't using it as much, you know? When it was here, I was like, oh, you know, whenever I get a chance I'll come over there and do it. I just would never do it. But at the house, it's easy because it's standing in my living room. Yeah, I need to get one. Speaking of sponsors, I want to make, I am going to go back to another one, but I do want to make sure that we, because we're all trying to eat right and we're traveling, that we make it a point to choose places to eat where we can get some vegetables, but let's also not forget to bring the green juice. Yeah, they just sent in a bunch of stuff. Okay. Yeah, you know. Organified green juice. Because I want to be, because we fuck up when we go on travel every time. I was debating fasting. Well, so here's what I'm doing. I was thinking about not eating. I'm eating two more times today. I'm eating two more times today and then tomorrow's my fast. So I did bring my bands for trigger sessions and stuff. Okay, good. I was just going to ask you guys if you guys were down to go live somewhere. I would fucking love to live. We'll find something. Because we're hitting the road pretty early. So we should. Oh, you want to live today? Yeah. Oh, I was thinking about lifting. I want to live tomorrow. No. Oh, it's more likely to live tonight. It's fine. I can live tomorrow on my own. It's better. Okay. Yeah, tomorrow will be hard because tomorrow we meet with him at 10 a.m. or whatever. Yeah. I wasn't going to do it before. I was thinking after, but you want to head up right up after him. Yeah, yeah. We're going to want to get back afterwards. Especially me, because I'm my girl, she's moving that day. So if I can get back and help a little bit. Well, bring the green juice though, just in case, because that shit's clutch when you're not getting your vegetables in. Yeah, I know. Especially for Doug, because he doesn't poop for like the whole time. And we're there. You know what I mean? He scares his way back up. It's true. I'm not lying. It's probably because we're on the same house. You know what I want to get? You know what I want to get? Wait, where's our, there's going to be what, five of us coming down? Going down, right? Yeah, yeah, five. Okay, so what do you have? Two rooms? We have three rooms. Three rooms? Yeah. So someone's going to be alone? Yeah, we have one person alone. Oh, okay. Yeah. All right, we can give it to the, all right, whatever. We'll talk about it. Yeah, we'll figure it out. I'll take the little guy. I got no problem with having him. Getting his toes done. Oh God, that sounds so bad. Yeah, that sounds really bad. Let's move on. This clause brought to you by Organifi. 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Oh, what a great way to find time to do correctional exercise. Yeah. So I like to do it like that, like so and or so I'll squat all the way down and do, you know, get in a deep baby squat, open up my hips and do a little bit of like a combat type stretch in the seated baby position. So yeah, no. But then I also have times where I'm relaxing and resting because I'm fucking crushing my workout. So it just, it depends. It only depends. It's supposed to like a compound like lift. So I'm doing like really heavy squat. I'm just going to sit down, you know, I'm going to sit down and get, you know, catch my heart rate or bring my heart rate down and like catch my breath. And but yeah, sometimes I'll just like slowly kind of walk around just to get things circulating and that helps me to recover actually a little bit faster. Yeah. I don't ever sit unless I have to. Like if I'm fucked and it usually doesn't happen. Maybe if I do like a collusion on my legs, which I'd never do because then you need you fucking need to sit down. Yeah. Or I did a really, really crazy set of squats. It's super rare. If I'm really tired, what I'll do is I'll just lean on the bar with stand while standing and I'll shift my weight from side to side. I might sit in between sets of like a upper body exercise just because I'm already on the bench and I'm sitting there and I did maybe seated curls or something like that. But even then I like to stand. I don't like to not move because I feel like you're not, you're preventing good circulation. I feel like moving because here's how the blood, this is how the blood works in the body. The, the, because your body is working against gravity, you flexing your lower body is what allows, what helps the blood move back up to the heart. There's like a series of, I don't know how, I don't know what they're called, but it's like a bunch of gates that move in one direction. And when you pump them up, the blood, it stays in a new area and then you pump them and they move up again. And this is why people can have issues with sitting for long periods of time where blood will pool and they can get like a blood clot or something like that. You know, I feel like it doesn't provide as much circulation and in the past when I've sat, when I've sat in between I almost don't feel as effective in my next set. You know what I'm saying? I feel like I need to move in between them. Well, I love to do our prime stuff in between that benefits the movement that I'm doing. Like, so for example, I was talking about the zone one test. So if I'm, I was heavy benching the other day. And when I, like one of the things for sure that if I just nowadays, like this wasn't like this just a few years ago, but now if I just get into a bench press, like no warmup, no nothing, no prime, just go right into benching a hundred percent bothers my shoulder, like right away. But all I need to do is spend a few minutes of priming. So either doing like some band rows or doing zone one test and it realigns me and gets me engaged with my back so I can squeeze my shoulder blades back when I go to bench instantly I have relief. So I like to like do it in between sets and see how much it's improving on my technique. So, and you should be able, most people, especially if you're, you know, late twenties into thirties and beyond should feel a difference like every set. Like every, and same thing like with just talking about squatting, like, you know, unless I'm squatting really heavy and I'm looking, I need the rest like I'm looking for the replenishment, you know, then I'm, I'm actually down and like opening the hips up more and working on my ankles more. So every time I go back to my set of squats, I feel like I'm getting in the groove more and it's even more comfortable. So yeah, and then the setup again, like going back to it for each and every set, I make sure to really like be diligent with that. So it's like, you know, you, you go through your recovery process, but then I'm like, I'm really digging my feet in. I'm trying to ground myself properly. I'm setting myself on the bar. I'm taking a decent amount of time to get situated to where like each set's going to improve as far as mechanically. So this reminds me of a study that was just shared on this, this particular thing reminds me of the study because so let me read, let me read to you what they say in the study. And then this is a great example of why studies sometimes are not giving you the right answer or at least the results, the results don't mean a whole lot. So what they did with this study is they took a bunch of, they took 17 rugby players and they had them perform side and prone planks and hip, hip extensions and some one-legged squats to activate the glutes. Then they did a set of high hang poles, which is like an explosive Romanian deadlift, right? And what they found was that they, doing the hip extensions and one-legged squats before the high poles resulted in less glute activation, not more. So I had a lot of people tag me on the study and say things like, this is weird. I thought you said, you know, priming your glutes would make you activate them more and make you work the glutes more and this, that and the other. Okay, here's the deal. Here's why this study is, it's not, it's not really saying what you think it's saying. Two things. First off, they're using rugby players. I highly doubt any of these rugby players have a tough time activating their, their posterior chain. So they're well-trained athletes. They probably don't have an issue feeling their glutes fire. If anything, rugby players probably have some of the strongest posterior chain. So that's number one. Number two, in the study, the priming movements they did before were done to failure. So they beat the crap out of the glutes and then they went and trained. Now here's the deal. When you do like what you're doing at them where you're trying to move in a position, part of the reason why that's beneficial is because it gives you the feeling of where you're supposed to move and feel. So when I do- You're not fatiguing those months. No, when I do priming for a beginner in particular who's not firing their glutes, I am showing them what it feels like to fire the glutes. Now when they squat, they can squat better. Not because inherently it's going to change the, you know, it's going to change the way that the- This is why I was- This is why so many people are doing it wrong that you see in the gym. I see this all the time with girls- That's a pre-exhaust technique. That's not priming. Right. Exactly. I see girls doing this all the time and you see some guys too but mostly girls because it's the booty chasers that are doing the band work and they're doing all these butt kickbacks and they're doing reps and reps and reps and they're just wrapping them out and they're going to failure. It's like, no, the idea is you don't need to do 20 reps, three sets of it with no rest and get the butt burning. The idea is just to get connected to it and understand how the movement, how you're supposed to- You got to know how it feels. Yes. You know? You got to know how it feels and so- That's the difference of so like when I- I want to say that because the way you're talking about in between sets, that's what you're doing. You're not- You're not- Okay, so let's say you're bench pressing and you're trying to get the mid back and the muscles that pull the shoulder blades back and down so you're getting a better position for your bench press. What wouldn't work would be for you to fucking do that shit to failure and fatigue the fuck out of it. Or yeah, do lots of reps of heavy seated row or something. No, you're just trying to get them to- You feel them so then when you get in the bench, you're like, okay, there it is. That's where I'm supposed to be. Right. Which I think is actually a brilliant use of in-between set rest and because here's the deal, you're also resting. If you would then did it to failure, you wouldn't be resting. You'd be doing a circuit. Right. You know what I'm saying? So I think it's important to note that if you do do stuff like that in-between sets, which I've never done that. I think that's a brilliant way to use it. I've done it with clients is to do it mainly just to rest but also feel what you're supposed to feel. But when it comes to clients, I almost never have clients sit unless they have to. I like to keep people- Oh yeah, I know. You know, just keep them moving. Don't let the blood pull in the legs and just kind of feel good. I almost feel like it's too hard of a contrast to cool down like that. You know, hard work and then you know nothing at all. I don't know. It doesn't necessarily feel right to me. I don't know about you guys. Yeah. No, I can agree with that. Next question is from VMA Mr. Black. You talk about how our bodies are adaptation machines and how changing variations in our fitness routines will keep the body adapting. Would changing variables like time of day, location, amount of sleep, calories consumed per workout also have some sort of positive adaptation effect on the body? Sure. Definitely. The reason why the body adapts at all, the only reason why the body adapts at all is because it's trying to become better at something. Now, in order for your body to become better at something, it has to use resources. So that means calories or whatever. And in order for that to be justified, the stimulus is probably a stress, right? So it's not, I mean, I can't sit here and think about building muscle and build muscle or at least I don't know if that actually worked at all, but probably not because I'm not stressing my body. My body's like, well, okay, you want more muscle, but there's no reason to have more muscle. We're not getting stressed. So I'm not going to waste resources or whatever. Same thing with any type of an adaptation. It's usually a stress that's causing that change. So. Dr. Andy Galpin said it's so good when he talks about that you're either optimizing or you're adapting at all times, right? Yep. So would changing a variable like the time of day you work out? Let's say you always work out at, you know, 4 p.m. a day. That's how you always work out. Do you think changing your workout to 7 a.m. would be a little bit more difficult for you? Absolutely. Right? Probably. And so that's going to be an additional stress on the body and your body's going to have to learn to be more resilient at that new stress. Would, you know, changing your sleep sometimes might even do it. This is why I've always said I know we talk a lot about getting good sleep, but I bet you there's a benefit to stressing it every once in a while. This is exactly how I use, you know, the quote-unquote fasted cardio technique for bodybuilding. Like the way I looked at it was not that it made this huge difference or benefit by not eating and doing cardio, it was that I would do it an hour before I would normally be out of my bed. And it was tough, you know. I would like set my alarm an hour earlier than what I've been training myself to be up for the last year, two year, whatever. I'm going to do it again right now with us getting ready right now in the six weeks, the final two weeks. 100% what I will do is set my alarm for an hour earlier than what I'm used to getting up. I'll fucking drag my ass out of bed, not wanting to throw a fucking hoodie on, go get over in the treadmill and just start moving and just start walking. And every time I was getting ready for a show, I didn't even have to push that hard but it's because it's so different from my body. My body responds and it starts to change. But if I were to do that for months on in, for a long period of time before long, my body just wouldn't respond to it. It has to be adapt. Intentional. Right. And I think the trap a lot of people get in where you're trying to figure out all these variables, which one are really competing signals. So if I'm working on endurance but I'm also trying to strength train and it sort of muddies up the overall signals and what your body's trying to actually adapt towards. It'll get a little better at both but it's not going to get a lot better. Which there's a place for that too and I'm not like completely shitting on that because I've definitely circuit trained and tried to also like strength train and go through this endurance type pace but just know that ahead of time like so this is this is a focus of mine. I have intent towards you know getting better at this and adapting towards this. So here's something that I want people to who are listening to understand. Okay. All stresses on the body do send a signal for your body to adapt to get better at dealing with that particular stress. That being said all stresses take from the stress reservoir that you have. So imagine if you have this reservoir of you know stress that you're capable of dealing with and let's say it's at a hundred just because you're stressing from weight training doesn't that means you're taking from the same reservoir as the stress from lack of sleep or the stress of working a lot or the stress of changing your diet or the stress of adding cardio or the stress of a stressful work or life you know with your partner whatever. Keep that in mind so when you're trying to get the body to adapt in a particular way consider all the other stresses that you're asking your body to adapt to because they all come from the same place. So if you're in a situation where your job just trained a change excuse me you just moved you went through a crazy break up or you're not getting good sleep and then you're thinking oh this is going to good time for work and really change my work out and go after a new adaptation. Maybe not maybe not it might be too much because all of those things take away from this pool or this reservoir of you know available capacity for stress this is very important to notice it's like the difference of you trying to send a signal of the body to adapt versus it just to survive. Yeah right like you throw so much it's like it'll do whatever it needs to just to survive it'll start to prioritize right because you're throwing so much stress that I versus like just throwing the right amount of stress that it starts so it starts to adapt and improve. Yeah, this is why like, you know, when I've gone through the most stressful times in my life, my workouts are totally not, I do not design my workouts or train in a way. Yeah, you're not pushing it. I'm not trying to build muscle, burn body fat, get stronger at all. No, it's what I just went through. It's what I talked about, we talked about this on the show the other day. Like I wasn't not working out this whole time where I, you know, have fallen out of shape in comparison to like. You just weren't pushing it to like totally. Yeah, it was about health. It was just about getting in here and actually creating movement and squatting and trying to get my hormones back up. It had nothing to do. I knew that if I hammered my body in here and went beast mode to try and do it, it would just be, I'd go backwards. It wouldn't help me out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so changing the time of day that you eat, changing macros. I love doing this with clients all the time where I'll have them eat a higher carb diet or a lower carb diet. Of course we can observe different changes in the body, but just kind of changing the signals that we're seeing in the body. Some, this is also why, you know, when you're dieting or trying to get lean or even trying to gain muscle, it's probably better to have, you know, rather than have the same calories every day to have some days that are low and some days that are high. The body tends to try to adapt and you start to see, you know, better change. So just kind of keep that in mind with, you know, what you're doing. But I do want to hammer home the message that no matter what stress you're putting on your body, consider all the other stresses that you're putting on your body. Consider all of them because they all pull from the same, you know, capacity to deal with stress and you can overcome it or you can overwhelm it, I should say, quite easily. Like I know people who are like, you know, my workouts aren't that hard, but I'm overtraining. It doesn't make any sense. It's because they're not considering all the other things that are happening in their life. And then I'll usually ask them, well, you know, what's going on in your life? Oh, my job is really, really stressful. Well, it's probably why you're not able to, to, you know, recover from your normal workout. Probably need to scale back a little bit. Next up is Kohler Roman, squat pad, yay or nay? No, I almost never recommend a squat pad. So squat pads were just- I think he actually called it a pussy pad. He did, but we had to change that. Stupid. You know, I know why they exist. They exist because the bar hurts some people's back. I used them as a young boy. Yeah, you didn't know how to hold the bar properly. So that's, to me, that's the point right there. Aside from, and we talked about this on YouTube a long time ago, we did a YouTube video addressing this. But I don't know if I've ever seen anybody who has squatted with a squat pad actually squat with great mechanics. I don't know if, like I'm thinking back right now of all the men and women that I've seen put a squat pad on. And most people that put a squat pad on, they don't squat very well because they don't have good sound mechanics. Because if you know how to put the bar right, if you have, if you don't have major issues going on with like shoulder mobility, and you can actually retract the shoulders and rest the bar back on your traps and your delts, I think it's a very comfortable place for it to be. Now if it's really uncomfortable on you, you've probably got something going on with your posture, with your shoulders and your neck. And so your squat is probably already off as it is. So addressing that I think is important. Now someone may say, well, what if I have good positioning and I still prefer to use a squat pad? Is it okay to use? And I'll still say no. When you use a squat pad, those things are typically about an inch in thickness all the way around. Maybe more, some of them I've seen are fucking huge pillows, okay? That is raising, it's raising the bar off your back. It's extending the lever. Yeah, and it's changing where the bar is being placed. So now you're squatting with kind of a higher bar type of a squat. I was just gonna mention it, it always seems to me it looks like everybody uses that squat pad pretty high and it's pushing the head forward. So now the next compromise, you know, you're kind of protracting your shoulders. I don't think I've ever seen somebody with really good squat mechanics squat because they rested up right below their neck. They get the forward head going. Then you add in the fact too, high bar squatting is already harder than low or mid bar squatting because you gotta be able to sit upright. Which not a lot of people- Very vertical. Yeah, not a lot of people have really good mechanics to get their chest up high and sit up tall and straight into a deep squat. So it's a crutch for something that ends up, I think, causing more good than bad long-term, if somebody uses- I've seen some people try to come up with products that like address, you know, a way to do it. Like, have you seen the- The Plastic Ray? Plastic Ray? Yeah, it's sort of like- Or the Manta Ray? Yeah, Manta Ray molds on your back. I mean, as far as like options go, maybe that's like a better option than like the big foamy pad. But still, it's a fixed- Yeah. It doesn't really allow for your body to really kind of get into position that's ideal for you. I've used the Manta Ray. The problem with the Manta Ray is it's molded for the average person. Yes, exactly. So if you're small or big or whatever, and it also places the bar kind of high on the back. It's kind of a high bar squat, which like Adam said, here's the thing about squats, okay? If you do them right with good form and good biomechanics, it's extremely safe. Squatting is a very safe movement. We were born to squat. It's a foundational, functional movement of the human body. That being said, it's also simultaneously an exercise where if your form is off by a little, if you have a little bit of dysfunction, it goes from safe to dangerous. Not a lot of exercises are like that. Like you could do a curl and if your form is a little off, it's not dangerous. You could do a tricep extension. You could do a row even. You could do a lot of different movements where your form is a little off and it's not a dangerous exercise. It's just not ideal. A squat, there's a line, literally a line between very safe and not safe. And that is... Which is what scares a lot of people from doing it. Right. I mean, this is why... If wearing a squat pad is only gonna make you, it's unsafe. Right. So I think that's, again, going back to, could somebody in this room throw a squat pad on a squat completely fine? Absolutely. It's not like it's not the end of the world to do that. It's just, I think I would address why it wasn't comfortable. Why is it not comfortable on my back? There's a good chance. The reason why it's not comfortable on your back is because you can't get in the correct position to rest it on your back correctly. So instead of just throwing a pad on there and moving on and just squatting, maybe look into addressing whatever that is. You also, it also encourages, because here's a, here's something that's very important about barbell squats. If you hold it right and you have a good position, it's not gonna fall down your back. It sits nice on a nice position. I know guys that have such good form that they could literally squeeze their shoulder back, not hold the bar with their hands and the bar doesn't move throughout the whole squat, right? Because it's sitting on something. The pad encourages the bar to roll down your back. That's fucking bad, especially when you have your hands on the bar and I've seen this before where people have tweaked their shoulder because the bar starts to slide down and roll down their back. They're trying to hold it with their hands and typically you can squat a weight that's heavier than you can hold with your hands behind your back, at least in that position. It's actually dangerous. I would say a squat pad is gonna increase your risk of injury, not to mention encourage biomechanics that are not favorable, which is why I never, look, I don't see too many of them though. Do you guys see that many of them? Yeah, it feels like a fad for a minute. It did. Because nobody squatted before. It's a nice little pillow, feels better. And I know, I've had people tell me like, oh, you need to have a lot of muscle on your back to hold the back right, the pad, the bar right, otherwise it hurts and I don't have a lot of, especially women, I don't have a lot of muscle so it hurts. Not true, not true at all. I've had, I've had 70 year old women put a bar on their back and do squats. And these women did not have that much muscle. I just got them to the point of being able to position their body right and have the right biomechanics. And we went really light, of course, but the bar sitting perfectly on the back. I, sure I have more muscle than the average person, but I don't have a shit ton of muscle. I've been fine with, I can't squat over 500 pounds, but I could rest 500 pounds on my back. It's not gonna hurt because of the positioning. I could probably rest more than that if I could support it, right? So your positioning is everything, or at least a major part, I should say, of your ability to squat in a pad. It discourages proper positioning. Well, it's part of this weird thing for me, like when people, like I used to train some clients that wanted them to invent a pad on the kettlebell because it just rested on their arm. And it would leave a little mark sometimes, you know? And it's like, yeah, it's uncomfortable, you know? Like you're gonna build callus. You're gonna build these things. Your body's gonna naturally produce to deal with it. Like be fucking tough. Fuck, you know, that's a lost art. You know, like get rid of the fucking pads. It's working out. This whole movement to make working out comfortable is stupid. It's weird, it's strange. You know what? I was moving and stuff, right? So I've been going, I went through a bunch of books. I meant to bring this. It's the science of bodybuilding. God, it's like a 1970s. Oh, no way. It's a great, I started reading it. Bro, there are gems of knowledge there. Yes, dude. Just on this topic alone, he's just talking about, they were talking about, this is like when Nautilus machines were really coming in and he's kind of knocking them. Just, you know, we've tried to make everything so convenient, nice. And sure, it's nice for certain things, but because of it, now everyone is gravitating towards it and we're losing out on these great movements that have carried us through this much time of lifting and building the body. It's one of the reasons why, this whole like, I gotta be comfortable while I'm working out. It's almost like you're missing the whole purpose behind the workout. The workout's supposed to be a little uncomfortable. It's what you get your body to change for fuck's sake. So it's impossible to be perfectly comfortable while you're working out. And if I could invent that, I'd be the richest man in the world, but it just doesn't work that way. It's one of the reasons why I sometimes enjoy working out, even when it's too hot or too cold. It's that whole like, it's I'm uncomfortable right now, but I like this is good. I enjoy doing it. Sometimes you guys ever work out when it's fucking freezing outside? You ever do an outdoor freezing? Those are some of the best workouts, you know? So yeah, the whole comfort thing is kind of hilarious to me. We see these machines with all these massive pads and pulleys and just move one joint. You're never gonna sell me on it. Drop the pads. Next question is, Lewis lifts a little. With some economists predicting another economic crisis in the near future, what would you guys do to prepare or minimize its effect on you and your families? Also, how would this affect personal trainers and what should we do to make it through the hard time? So I agree and disagree with the- Must have listened to Peter Schiff. Well, I do believe that, and we're seeing it right now. So if you talk to any like real estate people that are selling homes and stuff right now, especially in California- It's funny we're saying this because we literally just had a report that GDP was over 4% growth, which is the first time in like a while, right? So I think that we're gonna see the houses level out a little bit. I think that if you're, so I'm in, this is very, like I'm in this wheelhouse right now because of the fact that we're considering buying right now. And I am really torn. I'm really torn on locking up a bunch of my money into a fucking $1.5 million home. Like that's a lot of money to tie up into one piece of property that I could potentially do invest or also potentially sit on and continue saving until we potentially have another slight recession and then buy when things are a lot cheaper. So I'm kind of going back and forth on this right now. I don't think we're gonna see what we saw in, you know, what was it? 08? 08, yeah, 0608 at a time where we, that was probably one of the worst things that we'll ever see and that I don't think we'll ever- Yeah, I don't think we're gonna see something nowhere near like that. I think it's gonna be a lot worse. Oh no, I've heard that for most of the time. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. I think it's gonna be a lot worse. You know why? Because a lot of the mistakes that we made, here's the thing, here's what happened in 2008 or what we did that kicked the can down the road. What did we see? Massive bank bailouts, debt increased and all the bad assets and bad investment didn't get, cause you have to let the market sort itself out and get rid of these bad investments and bad assets. Yeah, they got rewarded for it. They got rewarded and they pumped them up and interest rates got hammered down even more because a central bank tries to, tries to, which doesn't work that way, but they try to prevent bubbles and stuff like that. But what they end up doing is they end up dropping interest rate, creating more fake money or whatever and so we're gonna have a correction and this time we're gonna be left without any solutions. Like we're gonna have to let the market sort itself out. We're gonna have a correction, but I don't think we're gonna have anything near what we had back then and the reason why that is is because of what they did with the loans, dude. Nothing, we had never, not since the fucking Great Depression that we'd seen something like that and that was one of the biggest fucking scandals of our time, of our lifetime that we have ever seen and it is incredibly difficult now for someone to go get a loan for a house. Like your credit has to be on point. Most people have to come with at least 10 to 20% down. Like dude, just 10 years, 15 years ago, you could put no paper documents, you could buy two, three houses and make 50 grand a year, like that's insane. And people need to understand why that happened. It wasn't because banks are greedy, it was because banks knew that they would get bailed out. Right. So it's like going to Vegas with 10 grand knowing if you lose it all, you're gonna get it and that's exactly what happened. The banks lost all that money and then they got it all back through us, right? Through our taxes, but that's not the only bubble. No, it's not. The school one is a big one. You're massive. The school one is a big one that we're gonna see. So I definitely believe we have- And the average American has got like 10 grand in debt. I think we have another- And credit card debt. I think we have another four or five years, at least where we're at, right? Cause obviously different parts of the country are different, right? As far as how they'll be impacted. I don't think the Bay Area is gonna be hit that hard. I think with Google and a lot of these and Facebook and Apple, the amount of jobs that they're pushing and building right now. I mean, there's like Katrina has, you know, the next four years is booked out for jobs, multi-million dollar jobs of concrete and buildings and things that are going up. So I don't think that's, I don't think that happens why we're, so we're not gonna hit a recession like we hit in 2008, in my opinion. I do think the market will correct itself. And I think housing, I don't think it's possible to have a average income of 70-something thousand dollars while the average house is 1.2 million dollars. It just doesn't mathematically add up. Nobody who makes that kind of money can afford those houses. So it will correct itself and level out and maybe dip a little bit. So the way I look at it is this, and this is what I tell Katrina is like, we won't buy a house or a property that we're not comfortable with either one having for a minimum of 10 to 15 years or that we plan to keep forever. So that's kind of how I- So you arrive the storm. Yeah, because in, if you look at real estate over the course of the last 100 years and you look at it in blocks of 20 years, it's always a smart buy, always. Cause even like, even if this is the peak right now and it crashes and we- Yeah, you give it 20, 30 years. You give it 15, 20 years and it will be back up above that again. So as long as you can hold whatever you're doing and you have the kind of money and capital to sustain a potential recession. So that's where we're at is like, okay, we're gonna put a very heavy down payment on a property that if we were to do this like that, that if I do lose $200, $300,000 in equity in the next three to five years, I'm not shitting myself and freaking out because I've got more of that down. Here's what we need to remember, cause we forget, we always forget when some shit goes down. In 2000, before 2008, 2007 looked incredible. They had projected houses being built, commercial real estate was being put all over the place. People, businesses were exploding. You literally had interviews with some of the top economists and they were saying, no, everything's fucking awesome. The stock market's exploding, real estate's growing. Everything's looking good. There's no signs of any type of a whatever. Then 2008 came and exploded everything. So we gotta remember that because we can definitely get ourselves into a situation. Here's the deal, this is the way I look at it. Do we have a shit ton of debt that's out there right now? Are there bubbles and are people spending their money a little wiser? And the answers to those are, yes, there's a lot of debt out there. The average American has got like something like $10,000 in credit card debt alone. School loans are ridiculous. Those start to default. We'll see what happens and they will. They're gonna start to default at some point. And then, I forgot what the last one was, but here's the thing that's kind of saved us a little bit is the incredible power, the decentralizing power of technology. Most of the jobs and shit that have been added since 2008 are these, what do they call the gig economy jobs? You know, Uber and Airbnb and all these businesses and stuff where it's super decentralized and shit's getting so efficient because of technology that it's kind of saving us a little bit. So I think it's gonna happen. You're gonna see a big fucking shakedown, huge fucking shakedown, and you're gonna see even further decentralization as big pillars of the economy, big old pillars, crumble and never kind of come back again. The way I would protect myself is two different ways. Number one, have some liquid cash. That's always good. And then also hold on to something that historically or have some asset that historically is held as value, which would be gold, silver, silver, or blockchain, like Bitcoin and stuff like that potentially could be, well, there's more options now and it's really just about not putting all your eggs in one basket. I mean, that's just like a smart thing to do. Like with some in real estate, some in... Well, that's how I feel like as I've gotten older, like that so, and I was just actually talking about this last night, it's funny we answered a question like this with my buddy, financial advisor buddy. And I was like, man, I wish, you know, I knew what I knew now when I was in my mid twenties because when I was about 25, I had about $300,000 in equity in my house. I had a decent chunk of change. I had my 401K, I thought I was living the life. I thought everything was so great. And so I was spending and doing things like I was. And then I literally watched it completely turn and crash and then be the opposite to where my house was a hundred grand upside down. And I remember being like, motherfucker, like if I would have just foreseen, like cause at that point I was so young and everybody was high fiving and buying more houses and buying more houses, I was looking to do, get my second house at that time. And I remember like not being wise enough that it's only a matter of time that it will come back down. It always does, right? It always comes back to the other direction. It's just a matter of how much. And it just so happens to be that when I was out living the life was the time that it came back down the hardest it ever has in our lifetime. So I don't believe it's gonna be there again, although I will be, I am prepared for it now. Like I mean, I have my money market savings account. I've got my checking account. Then I have a regular savings account. I have my- Yeah, the liquid is important. There's stock market crashes. Right. Assets lose value. And then I have stock. And then I also have- The dollar loses value. Bitcoin. And then we're looking at real estate right now. So the way I, and then I, you know, I won't overextend myself on anything. So, you know, this is just the wiser me now. And I'm in a better place financially I am today than I ever was as a 25 year old kid because I learned from that mistake, you know, now going forward. So I think the way you protect yourself is you diversify. You don't put all your eggs in one basket. I wouldn't heavily invest in Bitcoin. I wouldn't heavily invest in the stock market. And I wouldn't put it like what I'm talking about right now, which is put all of my money into one big expensive place. So that's where we're back and forth on. Oh, do we get like one investment? I'd be willing to just sit on it and let that, you know, weather you through all that kind of stuff. But as far as like the personal training goes, I know that like when that recession hit, I was actually running a boot camp. I know that a lot of people are freaking out. Like nobody's going to buy personal training again. Like where are we going to get business from? Like you just, you really have to be comfortable with the fact that you have to be flexible and you have to understand that, well, now I have to, I have to evolve. I have to like provide something new, something that's going to stand out. Like there's always opportunity in those situations to actually make money. 100%, there were lots of businesses that made a lot of money because of the downturn in 2008. Like dollar store businesses exploded in 2008 because obviously they have inexpensive product. Walmart had one of its biggest years. Yeah, so be adaptable as a personal trainer. So if you're a personal trainer and you're training one-on-one clients, that's a high-end, low-volume business. Economy crashes or goes down quite a bit. You're not going to get as many people spending a lot of money on personal training. Boot camps, group classes. Statistically speaking, personal training is an incredible career to be getting into over the last 10 years and right now. It's been on the rise. It's continuing to grow. The last 20 years. Now what I know I saw back six, seven years ago and a lot of what I think what connected all of us in this room together was that I saw that the fitness space needed to evolve and change or I needed to evolve and change within it. And look at what we do right now. Like, so here's the downfall of getting into training right now is during hard times. Is that it's still a great job. It's extremely competitive. And so back in the days, maybe you could be one of the five trainers in a gym and it was really easy to pick up clients because you're one of the five trainers where that doesn't exist anymore. There's so many. So it's a very competitive market which is now forces us to level up. And what we've done now, which you know, this is a business that I felt like we had to do with the current state of being a personal trainer. And it did, we did have to sacrifice not making a lot of money in the beginning. We do provide a ton of free content but that's just it. We're in this, we're in a uber world now where everything is way cheaper and easier and a lot of trainers were still hiding their information behind paid walls. And that's silly because it's too easy and too easy and accessible to get free information now on Google and YouTube and podcasting. And so the real mission was for us to be able to out produce content that is more valuable than what was being paid for out there right now. And then once we had done that, we would obtain the audience. And now with the audience, now we have lots of opportunities to monetize and make and grow and scale, but we had to first take that sacrifice of, you know, working our asses off to put all that information out there to gather the audience. And so I believe as a trainer, you're in that time right now. You're in a time right now where it is an awesome time to be a trainer because I think that the industry is still growing and I still think, and we're in a health crisis. Everyone's getting sicker and fatter. And so absolutely there's a need for you but there's also a lot more of you. And so it's competitive. So you can't just do what everybody else is doing and you can't just follow this follow suit. And I think we saw that. We saw so many trainers all mimicking each other and you still see it. I still see it with all these mastermind groups. They're all fucking teaching each other to do the same shit. And it's just a hustle. And it's like, that shit might make you a little bit of money right now, but the long game, it ain't the long game at all. So yeah, I think if you're gonna be a trainer, you've got to be a forward thinker and seeing like the writing on the wall when it comes to content and free information. And you've got to be providing that because- Be adaptable and learn how to work for yourself. Here's another one. Like if you're working for a big, expensive gym and you're a personal trainer, training high-end clients, like prepare your, like be able to adapt and also side, bringing some side income from running some stuff on your own or be prepared to have to do that entirely. And just be adaptable. The businesses that can move, that are nimble and that are not afraid to adapt, are the ones that survive. The ones that are afraid to adapt or are so tied to their own self-belief that they're gonna, no, we've always succeeded, this is the way it is. You're gonna go the way of Blockbuster. You're gonna go the way of some of these businesses that just, they just were two, their egos were too big for them to recognize- It's crushed. That the change is coming and that you just gotta adapt. I mean, do you think if you went back, do you think if Blockbuster could go back in time that they'd still be out of business? Of course not. They'd go back in time, see the writing on the wall, be like, hey guys, we need to sell these assets off. We need to be smart, whatever. At the time, it might've looked like, oh my God, Blockbuster's laying off all these people because they're changing directions, but they would still exist, whereas today they're gone. So you just have to adapt. I think health and fitness will always exist in some way, shape, or form, but you may not be able to do, if shit goes really fucking sideways, I don't think you're gonna be doing $100 a session personal training. You might do these big group classes or something like that. To me, that is what I thought was on its way out. Not that they'll always be the rich and famous. I was gonna say, I could play devil's advocate to that because I actually increased my rate substantially. Yeah, but you're, again, you're talking about- You're Justin Andrews. You're also the 1%. But that's what you have to think in those terms. It's like, how can I survive? There's somebody out there that has money, how can I get their attention? Right, and so you just have to think differently. Now, did you also hedge your bets though and also do boot camps and stuff on the set? There you go. See, that's a very smart strategy because I've always told trainers this myself. I've always told them, look, you got the low volume high dollar and you've got the high volume low dollar. Probably, if you wanna be safe or whatever and have a nice mix, it's smart to do both. They both feed each other. You might have clients in the high dollar low volume that eventually are like, I can't afford this anymore. Cool, go to my boot camp. Then you have some boot camp people that are like, ooh, I want more personal training or more one-on-one. Cool, come hire me as a personal trainer. If the economy explodes and people have lots of money, cool, you've got the expensive one. If it goes down, you've got the less expensive one. So you've got that kind of nice buffer. No, I think it's beautiful. If I was a trainer right now, I would be doing high ticket clients only. So the only ones I was training in actual person, I would be charging top dollar for those people, which I wouldn't expect to have hundreds of those clients. You just need a handful of those clients that are top dollar. You need like 10. I would be running some sort of a class, whether it be a corrective, kin stretch type of a, Aldoah type of class, you know, like it's spin on a, like I like the idea of boot camps. I just don't like boot camps. Right, right, right. I always use them as feeders. I always use group training as a feeder to my personal training. Right, so and then on top of that, with the world that we live in now with social media, is I would 100% have some sort of a virtual business, whether it be virtual coaching, virtual programs. Oh my God, if you don't have that, you're- Right, programs, virtual coaching, and then classes, and then high end one-on-one, you could have a very, and what's nice about that, it allows, it gives you the full spectrum, right? So if I have somebody who just, they can't even afford $150 to $250 a month for boot camp or for court, for classes, they can only afford 50 or 100-something dollars for some sort of a virtual- You have a drop-down option. Yeah, you've got a drop all the way down to the virtual thing, which is obviously the least valuable because you don't actually see the person in person and help them and be able to correct them or whatever. So that's your bottom drop for almost everybody. And then you've got a group class setting where people that want the one-on-one attention but can't quite afford your 150 to 200-something dollars an hour, so they're not gonna be able to pay that, so they take the class, and then you have your, like you said, Sal, you use that as a feeder because sometimes you're gonna capture some of those people that are gonna be like, hey, I want more one-on-one attention. I obviously have all these issues you keep pointing out to me in class. Can I see you privately? And so they all feed each other. And then when the people, you're really, really high-end people, you correct all their issues, you fix them, you get them in great shape, you either set them down in your group classes and you keep them in or you drop them all the way down to a virtual and you stay on top of them. That's exactly what I did. Right, and you just service the fuck out of your people and you'll make it through this time right now. Yeah, the people that won't make it are the ones that are just so stuck in the way that they do things. They're like, no, this is how I've always done things. Those are the ones that are high-end. Yeah, I would never just want, I would never, not now, not in the time we have now, I would never just be one. I wouldn't just be running camps and trying just to scale camps. I wouldn't be just smart. Doing private, trying to scale. Well, knowing what we know now about internet marketing or just providing value through new media. God, I think every personal trainer should create some free, highly valuable guide which are kind of like short books. They should figure out a way to capture emails and they should provide a valuable newsletter or something to these people every single week or month or whatever and grow that list. And then you have this captive audience that you can pull from. But you're also providing a lot of value. That didn't happen 10 years ago. Nobody did it. Today, I think in 10 years from now, you have to do it. Today it's an advantage. In 10 years, you're gonna have to do something like that. Oh yeah, again, it's we're in the Uber world now. They're creating the demand for that. You have to do that in order to keep up. So it's still cute. Speaking of guides, we have a bunch of free ones ourselves. If you go to mindpumpfree.com, you can pick a guide that suits your needs. So we have some for like building your legs, guide for building the chest, guide for fat loss for how to do high intensity interval training. They cost nothing at all. They're absolutely free. Just go to mindpumpfree.com. Thank you for listening to Mind Pump. If your goal is to build and shape your body, dramatically improve your health and energy and maximize your overall performance, check out our discounted RGB Superbundle at mindpumpmedia.com. The RGB Superbundle includes maths anabolic, maths performance and maths aesthetic. 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