 I'm Ken Narayan. Many thanks for being with us. You're the former governor of West Bengal. A question really on South Asia. How do you see relations between India and Pakistan? How can you resolve this history of antipathy or antagonism? That's a very difficult question. But let me get it straight. I don't think that India and Pakistan are on the verge of a conflict or there's any kind of a threat of a nuclear sort of exchange between the two countries. There are, I think, perceptions and difficulties. And as we just heard a few minutes ago during the discussion, that between neighbors, particularly when in our case we were one nation, there are certain issues that have come up as a result of partition. I think time is a great healer. And I would say that the degree of antagonism that exists is much less today than what it is. I've been around for a very long time. So I can speak not really from the sense of history, but from my own personal knowledge that I think that we are at a much better position today than what we were even 10 or 15 years ago. So the one short answer to the question would be saying that relations are not very satisfactory. But I would say the degree of hostility has come down. And I think both sides need to work a little more. Is that because of the relationship between Nawaz Sharif and Mr. Modi? Or is it because the army in Pakistan now has a different attitude? We generally believe that Mr. Nawaz Sharif is interested in improving relations with India. And it's not only with Mr. Modi, but Nawaz Sharif has been Prime Minister three times. And I was around when he was very, we had a Prime Minister by my name Mr. Chandrasekhar. I was then the head of intelligence and I've seen the relationship between Nawaz Sharif and Chandrasekhar. And even then he was very, very forthcoming about trying to build relations. So I think having Nawaz Sharif has been probably a good aspect as far as India-Pakistan relations are concerned. Mr. Modi, like, I mean, his predecessor, Mr. Manvon Singh, I think is wedded to the idea of improving India-Pakistan relations. So I think what I would call the relationship has certain important personalities involved. Yes, we always in India feel that the Pakistan army is an obstacle to better relations. And the stronger the army becomes, I think we in India perceive that as less of a chance of a resolution. I mean, does an organization such as the World Policy Conference, does this have any sort of role to play in improving geopolitical relations? I think, I mean, I tend to fair amount of international conferences. And I think what distinguishes the World Policy Conference from most of them is, I think one, I think they get some of the best people to be present. Most of them are thinkers and therefore they bring to mind, I think, a great deal of insights as to how to deal with problems. Today, for instance, I mean, we found there were no harsh words exchanged. You know, I think there are a lot of things that were said today about East Asia, which I think I'm going to take back. And if I have an opportunity, pass it back to the government saying, this is how it appears that the winds are blowing in East Asia. And I think we, of course, have problems with China of a certain kind. Primarily, I think there are civilizational issues rather than territorial. But I was for nearly six years the special representative for modern talks with China. And it's fascinating to understand how the Chinese mind, 10,000 years of civilization with India's 5,000 work. So I think all this. And the WPC provides, I think, maybe one of the best forms where you can get an exchange of idea and take back something. Otherwise, a lot of people spout things, but we don't have the option to take them back. Thank you so much, Governor. Thank you.