 Welcome to the 1878 FM podcast, it is episode thirty-two, three, thirty-three, once again Andy has left the building, Mr Bush, he's not here today but we're a threesome again, he has said that for a while, listen, his excuses are getting, I don't know whether they're getting worse or they're becoming more inventive, he's apparently got a real job and I'll be honest, is climbing snowing a real job? What I mean is he has real hours, he does, what is your, what's yours three do? I think Dave, Dave? No I don't, he doesn't have real, well I mean I suppose technically I do, I do operate in office hours but yeah I think Bush is more, what's the word, committed I think, you know in terms of ydw i'n rhaid wych yn ystod, mae yw'n rhaid iddyn nhw'n wneud rydych chi'n i ddoch. A dyna'r hyn yn amlwg y dyna yng Nghymru, ac yn ymddir cymdeithasio gael gweithio. Mae'n gweithio'n gwirio'r Newden, o'r thysgau, o'r cash o'r gydych chi, ac mae'n wenthyl o'r cyffredin. Mae gyddo iawn jeddo'n melio'n ei wneud. Mae wynau ddaeth. A dyna ddim yn dda. Mae'n d anderthau. Mae'n d jerio'n ei ddaeth. Mae pob. Mae hi ddaeth, mae'n dda meddwl. Mae gyddo i'r bydoriaeth. Mae'n ddaeth a yn eich byd. Mae'n ddafiannau. Gofoddw i chi fan? Mae'r ddafyddio yn 70 quid. It's ridiculous. Prawitisation for you. You can't even call. Its name isn't even Snowden anymore. It's gone by the Welsh name. I thought that was the Brechhen Beacons. They don't Snowden as well. What's the code? I'm not going to muller it. Don't bring information here, and then not finish it off. You know! You've gone half way. No-one wants that. I mean this is breaking news. It is. I was unaware until, you know, just now when we were recording the podcast that Snowden has potentially perhaps changed his name, I've got a feeling this is going to turn out to be nonsense. Well, I know the Brecon Beacons have had to change their energy a few. I was being outraged because of that because English people demand. Snowden is now called E-With, Y-R, space W-Y-D-F. OK. So Y-R, space W-Y-D-F. Fair play to you. That's Snowden. Why with you? And Snowdonia is called E-R-Y-R-I. OK, so it's changed. Fair play to them. I am waiting for the apology. Well, not so much Dave. Dave didn't dive in with two feet, but you very much Mason Holgate. When did this come out, by the way? Is this a recent thing? November. Well, it's not recent then, is it? Snowdonia National Park Authority. You've had months that have changed. Now they've had the things that they used to go. Fair play. I don't like change like that, you know? I just think that when it's been something for so long, you know? How dare it use its Welsh name in Wales? You're right, Dave, you know? Everybody knows it as Mount Snowden, you know? And then they have to go and change it to something else. And then it just means forever more, right? What's going to happen is that people are going to say, oh, well, I'm going to Itwits or whatever it is. You're going to go where? Snowdon. Why don't you say Snowdon in the first place? Well, it keeps Snowdon very much in the conversation, doesn't it? Was Snowdon never out of the conversation? Well, I don't know. I don't know. But I want to know. Andy's climbing Snowdon or Itwits? Itwits. I don't know. It's a question for you. Well, on all the posters it says Snowdon. But I knew I had this information because we missed it some during the day because she had the radio. She had the universal challenges on it. The universal challenges on? No. This was in the car, obviously. You don't have a radio on an universal challenge. That's massive. No. As he told me, he was climbing Snowdon this week. So he had it where. I said, no, and I will be going to HR over it. He didn't like pre-warning. This must have been a thing. He's had planned for months. Well, you say that. You say that in his defence. And unless this is all an elaborate radio rws, is that I don't think that he was aware of it until earlier on this week. Or even back in the last week. It's been recent because he was off. And then he came back and then they sort of said, oh, by the way, this is happening. So I don't think he's known for very long. Oh, well. It's a good job. He's healthy and he's capable to get up. A bike ride will have helped him last week is whatever bike ride he did. Wonder if he's taken a toasty maker up with him? Because that would make good radio. It would. High altitude. What does it do? What's the construction like of it? The structure of the toasty. Yeah. It's a decent excuse. It's a good excuse to go. That's what I'm saying. He has his reasons to become more elaborate, but fair play to him. Fair play to him. But his percentages, though, are, I think, alarming. They are alarming. Alarming is maybe too big a word. But his percentages in terms of his attendance are an area of concern, I think, for all of us. Because he's not stringing two episodes together. He can, though. I don't know what his body's done. He's in the red zone permanently, it seems. I mean, he's almost got his own song in for a week out for a month. And then, you know, filling all gaps are available. You can fill a gap in however you want. He's only going one way, isn't he? We all know, as we've said many times, that he's heading towards that Channel 5 stardom. And a trip up Snowden or Big Ears will only help that. Because he's setting the tone for his future endeavours on Channel 5. He's mountaineering with Bush. It is. And it is. That's my mountain. That's it. The thing is, he's showing the experience. It's a CV building, as far as he is. You know, he's going to go to the body of work. Davieson, is that what they call it in the industry? Yeah, it's the body of work. And one which he should be proud of. Kill him and jarra with Bush. Yeah, I mean, it works. I don't think it's going Everest. You never know. That's what we've said before. Unless it's at Disney World. Or unless it's with Craig Doyle. I think that Craig Doyle on the sleep. Then too, Doyle and Bush. Doyle and Bush. Doyle and Bush. Doyle and Bush. Doyle and Bush. It does, doesn't it? It does very much. It was up there, but there have been a bit of Liverpool one, I feel. That kind of quality. Back in the 80s. Very much, yeah. What was your one called? Dave Cocker and Polly? Wasn't that your famous? Yeah, Cocker and Polly because it was a song. In fact, weirdly, because I heard that only the other day. And it was on and I heard it for ages. And was it Fallout Boy? Do you know what's dead weird, Dave, genuinely? I know exactly where I was when that gag was made on the old radio show. How weird is that? I don't think it's that weird. Well, you say that's weird, but I think my brain works in exactly the same way. I don't know whether it's everybody, but I'm exactly the same in so much as I can go about years and years and I can tell you exactly where I was in the world at the time that either that news was announced or I was having that conversation because I normally I relate it because I drive a lot. So I often relate it to where I was. You know, I remember I was just those set of traffic lights or I was going to that bridge or whatever it was. So no, I'm like you, I do that, but I don't know whether that's a normal thing or not. I was actually coming off the M 56 onto the M 6 after retaining from a job from Manchester Airport when I was on the Caps when I heard that. How weird is that that I still remember that? I was very long time ago. The show's just things, things that they can't remember other stuff. Can't remember something that's all these ten minutes ago. Cough it and pull. You've never forgotten. If I forget it in my book of Dave, talking of things I want to forget very quickly and it'll be a very brief chat. But if another game of the weekend. Yeah. Well, basically, Dave, what we said yesterday. The paraphrase hour show, anyone who wants to watch the hour to spread it out, go by all means go much. Paraphrasing yourself. Paraphrasing myself now, yeah. Was was in isolation. That result wasn't bad. Palace three wins on the run, going there clean sheet, blady, blad. But given the severity of evidence situation at the moment, it just felt like because Palace, it just felt like that was a game evidence of the one it was there for the taking. And therefore a little bit disappointed to come away with only a point. Yeah, I'd agree with you on all of the above. I think things could have been a lot worse. I think is what we're all saying. But yeah, you do look at it and you kind of go, they could have won that. They really could have. Yeah, or they, you know, they should have. Yeah, they should have got more out of that, I think. Positives were to see Calvert-Lewinbach, obviously. And his turn was first class. Yes, it's shame that, you know, he didn't quite get on target for the thing. But that was a that was at least as I mean, this is how starved we've been of any kind of attacking threat. Is that it was encouraging after the drought that we've been through to actually just see that, you know, and give us some kind of hope. But once again, you know, and I sound like a broken record, it just still goes back to effort for me, you know, and I just feel and that's a frustration, same against Palace, same against Fulham, as if they had played to the ability and to the performance level that we know that they can do. Then, yeah, they'd have won that. It's frustrating cos other teams are getting those wins, aren't they? Like we saw, like Bournemouth the other week, on win three, two at Spare's. And we've seen less they come back from behind at the weekend to win. And our games are just flowing by. And I mean, we've all said on this podcast, you know, we might just run out of games. It's not necessarily. We are more durable, you know, with. I mean, in games, I'm picking points up and stuff, but we have had an opportunity. I feel with the Tottenham, Fulham game, the Crystal Palace game, those three games in particular for me. The games have all been there for the taking and everything just haven't. Haven't that actually been? At what point do you think in their minds does this situation become an emergency? Because, and, you know, the reason I say that slightly flippantly, but to me, this has been an emergency for a long, long time. And it just doesn't seem to be that same sense of to know. Do you think that's what Sean Dices is trying to not create? Do you mean that it's not an emergency? Cos I do think that he's saying that, like obviously, like closest to home and stuff. There's been a lot of talk about like bus welcomes and stuff like that. And he's been very reluctant to do that. Cos I think I think from when you listen to him and he talks about just doing normal stuff and not putting pressure on Dominic Arvalunan and being a team thing to me. It is like you just take one game at a time and it's it's that. I, you know, fully understand what you're saying, Dave, because it almost feels like when he talks, it's like he's building up to something like we're going to get to one big game and that'll be the game that solves it all. And it's it's all it's every game, obviously that. But in a way, he's got the experience. He understands that it that it's never over till it's over. You know, I was talking yesterday and said, if we can get to the last two games and we're actually still in it, then that'll be a that'll be a big bonus for me. You know, walls away and and bomber for home. If we can get to those two games and we're either with, you know, it's like it is now or it's in our hands, then that would be huge for it. And I imagine he's probably similar as well. He probably knows that we're not good enough to just pick up wins and get out of it like a like palace half. I think he knows that it's going to be it's it's it's important to just stay in the fight. And maybe that's why games like Saturday is happy to take a point. Obviously going down to 10 men rather than after an hour, after an hour, I think we all felt. And I think it's a it's a it's a universal thing. This that we really should have gone for it. The crowd was back in his. The crowd was fantastic, by the way. Yeah, and the palace were drifting out the game. It was one of them for them. The safe, the that's, you know, the flip flops were officially on. And that might have been the time. But because what are that? What will have happened if they had scored? Then suddenly you go on looking for that other another win. Or, you know, we've gone away from home and we've gained a point on Leeds and we've gained a point on Forest. And I suppose that's the mentality he works from. He stayed with Leicester, who had the home game. And I don't think and then you hear him when he's asked the question about going into the bottom three side, it won't matter until the last day of the season. So I do understand that for him, it is about keeping everybody calm. And that's why, you know, that's why says that he becomes a huge game because that is that is. I think if we are that's a game we can affect. I just think if I think it's heightened because of the two of the three home games. I think if we had like, I don't know, it's just that fulham, so this is going to sound super. But if we had those kind of games left, if they were like the last three, I think people would be calmer going to a good point that we can win. It's just because we've got Newcastle with flying and I know that could go the other way. Yeah, yeah. And Man City, they were obviously going for the league and they're hugely difficult games, aren't they? So I think that's why you're right. I mean, I mean, I've said this yesterday that Chelsea game day when we won last season, that day when we kicked off against Chelsea, that day in the Charleston school, we were five points adrift. We were there from bottom, five points behind. So, and that was in May. So it isn't, it isn't dire. It's just, I think we said ages ago, but you're always hoping you're wrong. We were never going to just walk away from it easily where it was never going to be a case where we were going to go, oh, we're safe with four games to go. It just wasn't, it wasn't going to be the case. You know, as we said before, ultimately, it looks like it's going to boil down to who is the most shit out of us, Leeds and Leicester, frankly. You know, and that will, that will, that will, you know, leapfrog itself in the coming weeks, you know, I think. I mean, that's why that has to be a draw tonight, because as you say, we just need to keep that pack together because otherwise, you know, if one of them gets to three points and close themselves to safety, then it's three out of four as opposed to three out of five, you know, and it's a problem. It will be great if that did end the draw. And Leicester had looked at it and go, we've got four points out of six and that's the right way to look at it, but I think for us, if we can come out tonight, a point behind Leicester and only two points behind Leeds, but with that game in hand, albeit it's a tough one on Thursday, then it gives us the opportunity to leapfrog both of those. Cos, let's be honest, Thursday is, for me, Thursday is a must win. It's a home game. It's a home game and we haven't won. We've won one game in nine. The good news is that they're low on confidence, haven't got any gold in them, so, you know, I mean, it's the right time to face them. Absolutely. Oh, God. Yeah, listen, that's going to be a tough game, isn't it? They had a tremendous win at the weekend. Part of it was Tottenham being utterly nonsense, but you've got to be able to put the chances away and you castle with Ruthless and fair play to them, the flying at the. But sometimes you can catch these sides with results like that cos they've got a buffer now, haven't they? They've got the six point buffer and Spares go to Liverpool at the weekend, which is a defeat cos they're record on Amfields as bad as ours. Some newcastle know they've got that buffer now. Do you think they do? I think they do. I think if your newcastle's six point ahead haven't just beat the team who's chasing, it's six one. I think you're thinking. Do you feel like that if it was us? I wouldn't feel like that if it was six point ahead with one game to go. I would still think we get cut. But I know what just what I mean is sometimes I don't have after the Lord Mayor's show when it comes into play as my native. I think you play a game which is there and they'll be welfare on things. I'm not saying they're coming down, or this doesn't matter, I don't think it's like that. It's just think sometimes you get a subconscious thing of you relax a little bit cos you think and it happens it loads of teams. You share all over the show and even have got to be ready. But then we weren't ready against Fulham. So I've been ready all bloody season. No, that is a that is a very good, a very good thing. So anyway, we'll see, we'll see. We're still in the fight. And I suppose, like I said, if we get the two games to go and we're still we're still well in the fight, if it's almost in our hands or we can still sort it then. That's probably you want those to your walls and Bournemouth to be on the family on the beach by the time we played walls, mate, I wouldn't have any words. I mean, look at this way, if you look at the bottom five, we are the form team because we have got three draws out of those. Life, which is better than the others around. We're flying. Absolutely. Let's just say anyway, let's let's let's move it on. Ned, I need you to I need you to be in your position. Hang on, what are you going to do? Crazy. Well, there's basically Dave. We've just invented a new segment for the show and it might be regular, but it's here today because it's much like Bush. It probably like, but we might call it the Bush section, but then but it's about you really. And it's going to be called Viti explains. OK, OK. Yeah. I mean, I feel like I might have a fundamental role in this. Well, I'd say so. I'd say the title suggests that you you have got an important role. So I've just sent you something to the group because that picture will now appear on the screen. And what my question is, and I want some explanation from this is when did you start in the UK version of friends? Does look like friends, isn't it? So I think we have a bit of context. Yeah, let's have a bit of context and a bit of explanation. I have just been sent a photo which I only saw for the first time yesterday, Monday the 24th of April being my birthday. Now I was yesterday, yesterday, yesterday. Yes, sure. Why didn't you give us a head, sir? Why would he because it's not my that's not my style. I'll be honest with you. This is always my my favourite day. The 25th of April is always one of my favourite days of the because it's done because I just feel like there's like a massive relief. I just think, oh, thank God for that. It's all done. You know, another 12 months. It's right. Happy birthday, mate. Happy birthday. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Anyway, so this photograph that you have found and have sent to me, I saw for the first time yesterday, it's sent to me by an old friend of mine who I used to work with in Hong Kong in a bar and restaurant that I started working in when I was 15 years old. And that photograph that you sent was taken a couple of minutes into the year 1990. So the first new years I worked was 89 into 90. So we're talking about in excess of 33 years ago, right? But as you said, when you look back at the the hairstyles and the dress and everything like that, it does look very much like one of those comedic friends episodes where they all dress up in their 80s and 90s carb. So leading on to that, I was just thinking so. I was just thinking you look like John Hammett in four weddings in a funeral. OK, well, I've got that vibe going on, but I'll just want to just we'll go back to it and the guy on your right is your north, your south, your east and your west. That's it. There's a compliment. That's looking like John Hannah from four weddings. I like that. What I would like to know, Dave, is if that is the UK version of Friends, which wouldn't be the Hong Kong version of Friends. Well, whatever, whatever version Dave's in, right? Which which of the male characters would you align yourself with more? Are you a Ross? Are you a are you doing or are you Chandlerbink? See, I feel like with your one line is you're a bit of a Chandlerbink. I think I would have I would have I'd have ruled myself out of Chandlerbink. I mean, I'd have said the obvious choice was Ross, but that's just based on my my marriage history, you know, which is similar to his and Joan Collins. So that would be the obvious. You like to try lots of different things, Dave, for I. Yeah, the spice of life. Yeah, either that or I'm just not very good at it, you know, or somewhere in between. So yeah, probably somewhere between Ross and Joey, I think. Really? Yeah, maybe. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, but without the kind of the smoothest. I meant just more in terms of the mental deficiencies. I was thinking more Gunther, but that's just me. Yeah, well, you know. OK, they're on. Yeah, each of their own fair play. And then the second bit of fit. I mean, I'll be honest, this requires less, less explanation, but it's still going there. So I am about to send you the second one and we'll get your nervous when you send me. No, no, this one isn't too bad. You I mean, you are basically naked in the picture, but hey, how three, two, one. You now have it. Please explain because I've just found this. And I've never seen it before. Never seen it before. So I apologise for not buying it on Amazon, but there you go. Yeah. Oh, OK, OK. Yeah, OK. To it's called Comedy Dave's Book, and it was intended to blatantly cash in on the status that I had at the time in the year 2011 and is essentially a collection of my thoughts and stories over the years. You know, in terms of of of like, you know, what happened, you know, what happened when you went to Glastonbury, what happened when you went to wherever and then sort of padded out with a few old scripts as well. You know, so you know that that now will be. Well, we will be getting this very today. We will be getting this book today and this will be part of. Yeah, we need to explain. Well, do you know, actually, it's it's it's not. I mean, because that will save you some work because the thing is that I can't remember half of those stories in there and I wrote them. So actually, if you go through there, you can almost do a quiz every week for the next, you know, God knows how long. Let's do it. I mean, still available or was it? No, no, no, no, it's still very much available. If there aren't any online anywhere, then I know that my mum has in excess of three dozen in the garage. You bet there's been help. Oh, there you go. For people who were just listening, it's Dave on the book on the front of the book cover and with two very startled faces. Yeah. One is carrying a car. Looks like he's carrying Scott Mills with Dave's head on it. Well, it might be. I don't know. Dave is. Is that actually your body as well? Yeah, yeah, that is me. So Dave's and Dave's got his bills on. So if there's any anyone who wants to see Dave and his bills, get the front of it, but he looks stunned on both. And I'm trying to work out why now I know that there was that there was a life-size cardboard cut out of me. OK, which used to which used to be in the radio on studios for a while. And then I think Alan took it on a gig somewhere and it got it got ruined or defaced or something like that. Classic Alan, classic Alan, but why exactly there was a car book cut out of me dress like that or not dress like that. Yeah, I don't really know. You're looking sharp to be feeb at the spray tan, but you're looking sharp. And I like it. Yeah. It looks good. It looks good. So yes, so that's that's what that's all about. Brilliant, brilliant. So obviously if you're it's good to know the book, the book hasn't been poped by Alan Partridge. Well, you know, I'm going to I'm going to get I'm going to order that today. So we're going to have that. I mean, no, no, seriously, don't pay money for it. I'll send you what you got. Now, please don't don't don't don't spend money on it. And I am I studio coffee? Is there no audio version? No, no, no. Listen, remind me. Texto genuinely text me later, right? You know, off the air and remind me. And the next time I'm around at my mum's, I'll pop one in the post to you. OK, I mean, OK, well, yeah, that does make sense. Short off for both of us for both of us next time I'm at my mum's which means he might go to his mum's like 20, 24. No, no, it's fine. She's she's only seven minutes away. OK, I can get there any time. OK, fair enough. I watched this. This is just a different this coming to me. I watched nobody the other day on Netflix with Bob Bowden. What is nine? Do you want to show? Better call show. I bought them back. Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. Which was a mad film. Oh, yeah. It was great. I enjoyed it. OK. I did say halfway through to me, Mrs. Like this is basically home alone for grown ups. Have you seen it? No, no. It's a bit. Have you seen it, Dave? No, no. So it's a bit of a mad film on a great segment so far. No, no. I really just wanted I wanted to hang on. Is the Dave explain label in finished now? No, we've moved on because I don't want it. We don't want it. We don't want to blow everything in the first episode. Do you believe that this is a regular thing? Yeah, and the book is going to give us lots of content for that section. So I'm very excited with that. I don't know, but I just want to because you've watched Paddy's basically. I don't know because Jonathan Ross still doing it. Someone else does a film night. It was Barry Norman for years. Barry Norman's still doing it. He's not still doing it. Shut up. Is it still called film 86? Film 86, it is, yeah. Just film films in 1986. I remember some great films in 1986. Top Gun being one of them. Yeah, now I don't know if you'd watched the film because it was one of them where you put a film on just by. I will give this a go and like him, it was totally the opposite of what I thought the film was going to be. It was mad, but it was entertaining in a mad way. But it was very much home alone for grown-ups. I just want to know if you'd watched it, my thoughts, but you probably could have asked me before we'd done this. Because I like the fact that you just look like you're looking through me. Is it? I like the risk of using a wanky word. I like the organic nature of this conversation and, in fact, this performance, you know, where it is, what it is, it clearly hasn't been rehearsed, you know. And sometimes you'll respond and go, yeah, yeah, I know that another time. I just feel for the segment to go somewhere. It wasn't a segment, it was just a question. We don't know the segment. The segment was quite, I was quite clear with the segment. It was called Vitty Explains. Just make an idle chit chat while the podcast is on. No, I'm just asking you. So where's this going then? It's coming to questions from. So that was just a random thought. Yeah, just come back into me because I want to know if you'd watched it. Do you know, do you know that this is so relaxed that maybe you should be part of Sean Dysh's backroom staff in order to make sure that the players aren't only burdened at any point by the intensity or the severity or the calamitous nature of the position that they find themselves. Yeah, absolutely, absolutely. OK, let's get into some. Fair enough. I just wanted to know. Sometimes things come into our head. I know the question. Hello. There you go. All right, but you tell me what randomness have you got. I'll be having a segment called the random section now. I don't don't fall out because I hate it when you do have a sort of mini. Yeah, but you do sort of you do have these sort of mini domestics and it just makes me feel awkward. The thing is, I'm just laughing at the idea. I'm just droffing. I haven't seen this film. I don't know. OK, let's move on to the mouth. You come back into my head and I was thinking, yeah, how am I going? Dan B, one of our premier members says, Jens, if you could be another person for one day, who would you be and why? Andy Bush. Why? Cos he gets more leads than any of us. OK, fair play. I'd like to think seriously that you've about this. Or stay on my relaxed vibe. I don't know that. What do you want to be, Ned? No, you should be me. I should be you. Well, no one wants to be you. No one wants to be you, Ned. You don't even want to be you. Don't be. I listen. Don't be nasty to that. No, no, no, no. It's not nasty. I'm just telling you. It's a fact. Who would you? I don't know. That's a tough question because that the there are many people for many different reasons. So it's tough, isn't it? No, it is. It is to single it down to one person. Well, just if I face one that comes in your head, it doesn't have to be only that person. Do you know what? I'll tell you who I would love to be right now. There's a guy. There's a guy on social media called Niall Harbyson who lives in Thailand. He's an Irish guy and he looks after sick dogs in Thailand. And right now, I was thinking, I'll come with you for a bit. Thailand off we go. Do you know, as soon as you said that he looks after sick dogs suddenly, the whole tone of the conversation just got so much more wholesome potentially, you know. Cos a minute before it, my mind myself, where I'll be on. Yeah, I see where it's. I took you on a journey. You took me on a journey, very much like Tiger. Sick dogs and, you know, you know, he's living his best life. Fair play, you know, just for a. I'll be honest, that wasn't that wasn't where I thought you were going. It's fine. Dave, have you got anything other than wanting to be in Bush for a day? What was it? Tell me the question again. I mean, I know. I'll be honest, there wasn't a very difficult question if you could be another person for one day, who would it be and why? I mean, it's very broad, isn't it? Yeah, that's a difficult one. I'm going, I'm going to Sean Dyche. Oh, OK. Did you set this up just so you could say Sean Dyche? No, Danby. Danby, to be honest, it's me. I just couldn't think of a name. I just said Danby. Erm, no, I'll go Dyche just to do a little bit of different training until Nathan Patterson is very good. OK. Oh, talking of which, by the way. Sorry, and before we completely dropped football. Yeah. Is it what must you think when you're Nathan Patterson or indeed what do you think is maybe wrong with Nathan Patterson? That's two managers now that totally haven't fancied him. It is. Blampard didn't then did. And then he never really he wasn't convincing. I don't think in terms of because I think they get bogged down, Dave. By the the she I think some managers would look up Patterson and go, you've got the potential to be a right back for the next 10. Well, you know, extra months of years and I'm going all in on you. You're playing every week. And I think Frank did that at the start of the season. And then and he started brilliantly and then he got injured. And then that was it. He was he come back and he was you. And then he got injured again and then Lampard was gone. But you're right last season when there was opportunities to play him. He just he swayed them, didn't he? Totally. It's almost like they want to coach them for months before trusting them. And I just wonder if that is doing the same thing for them. I don't know. I don't know. But I think I think from from Nathan Patterson's point of view is that when you when you have been, you know, bought to be the future in that position clearly, and he will know that and and and, you know, he will appreciate and understand why Seamus was getting in above him on the Dutch because, you know, as I say, the situation situation that we find ourselves in is that I shall obviously needed and wanted his leadership and experience and and whatever. But to then have Seamus out and to then be passed over by Godfrey, who's not a right back and then Holgate, who really isn't a right back, is that's got to make you question your position. Surely. And this is why I think we've lost a lot of good plays in the last few years or players have lost their way because they just sort of fall down the cracks of every manager we get. Don't we? You know, you know, and and and Holgate's probably one of those players as well. And obviously Tom Davis is one of those players and stagnated, haven't he? Players who have left the club without playing enough games or have overstayed their welcome or whatever and players we've lost like Vlasic and they have all they're all victims of the same scenario, which is a manager comes in and he needs to do a job immediately. He doesn't fancy somebody or they haven't been fit when he come in the door, so he's not willing to wait for them. And and then they what happens next? Do they find themselves they find themselves off the team? Like they said, what are they thinking? So do they immediately think, well, this fella doesn't like me. So there's a summer coming up. I might need to be looking elsewhere. And that this is where this is why the club again is where it is because there only is it lost good talent due to selling them on. But it's lost good talent through the lack of development and or a manager coming in saying, well, I fancy Mike this fair instead of viewing. And it's it's an endless cycle. And Paterson seems to be another another victim of it. Certainly with Seamus coming out to side. I mean, don't get me wrong, I would not drop Seamus Cullman for Paterson because Seamus has been in great form, but you would have thought the next thing would have been to get Paterson up to speed and get him into the team. And it's really strange. OK, we'll move on. Richard Parr. I don't know that's one for Andy. We'll ask Andy next week, Richard. David Edmund says back in black or back to black? Both great albums. Mm hmm. Which one? Back in black. OK, I've never listened back in black for me. OK, listen to you this. Elizabeth Kirkman, hello Elizabeth says, where is your favourite place in the UK and in the world and why? Oh, well, Elizabeth, I'm hoping that I haven't found my perfect place yet. And that means that there is more exploring that needs to be done. That's a shout. What about in the UK? Is your favourite place in the UK? Probably Wales. But I do want to go to Scotland. I mean, and that's perfect for Elizabeth, but I do want to go to Scotland and have a go right at the top of Scotland because it's somewhere where people don't be being so far in Scotland. I've been to A, Dundee, Glasgow, Edinburgh. I've been in Gretna Green. Yeah, there is some lovely place like Boko. So I'd like to go right to the top. Right to the top. Then OK, John a Groat. Well, well, Peter, I mean, that that links me on very nicely because this genuinely isn't a set up. You don't know this, right? I am not aware of any tricks here. Let's come from a little bit of a question. So there you go. Go on. Well, there you go. And this just shows that this is all true, is that literally three nights ago, I booked my hotels for... I'm going to go and do what they call the North Coast 500. That's what I want to do with this. Which is very, very much what you're talking about. That's what I want to do. It's something that I've heard about before and I've never done it. And so one of my best mates from college lives in Edinburgh and I was talking to him about it when I was up in Scotland in February, if you remember. And I said, I'd love to do that. And he goes, oh, I've done it before. He goes, me and my son did it a couple of years ago. He goes, I'd be able to do that again. I said, I'd love to do that. Anyway, so what we're going to do is we're going to drive the North Coast 500 and we're going to do a combination of camping on beaches and whatever and then some B&Bs as well. Six nights, three nights camping, three nights B&B and go and do it clockwise up the West Coast along the top, back down again, back down to starting and finishing in Inverness. That's exactly what I want to do, Dave. But it takes a little bit of prep, doesn't it? That's the thing. You've got to... Will you be putting a request in for leave with HR that weekday if it's six days or you're finding out that there's Wi-Fi in your B&B? I think I might be having to pull a bush, so to speak, that week. I might pull a bush. Pull up in Scotland, do you know that one? Yeah, Scotland is lovely to be fair. Being to Inverness never being... I think Inverness is the furthest north of being, I think. I think it'll be a bit further, but it is lovely, St Andrews is lovely being over there. Being to St Andrews, yeah? Yeah, it's nice there. It's lovely. Nice place, lovely. What is yours? In Deffo, Wales is Deffo mine in the UK. Deffo. But I haven't been down, like, down to Cornwall, which looks absolutely gorgeous as well. Orlando will be for me at the moment in the world. Oh, in the world? You're right, I hope that all the places I go to. Orlando's great, but it's definitely not the best place in the world. It's a brilliant place, but it is built for British people. I like to be entertained. It's quite interesting when you hear about Florida and how awful it is, but the experience we've had of Florida are utterly amazing. But it's like Americans just deeply despise the place. I have been to, like, St Augustine in Florida, but it's all part of the same thing, isn't it? But Americans, like, they hate it. They hate Florida, but no. There's lots of places I want to go. I want to go to, like, Norwegian fjords up to Tromsø. I want to see the Northern Lights. I want to go to Japan. I want to go to Canada. There's loads of places I want to go to Canada. I want to go across Europe on trains. I'd love to go across America. I'd like to go across America on the train. America's difficult to go across on the train. Now I know where America is now. And it's a bit of a thing. Canada's a place to do trains. There you go. So that's a good question. Mark Cotton says crisps in a sandwich or to the side? Both. I mean, I think that the face of Thailand is crisps. No, I do a bit of both. I have a crescent of crisps on the side of my plate with my sandwich, but then I'll also get some and then put them in the top just for a bit of added crunch and you press it down and you just get a bit of texture and crunch. It's not something to do regularly, but I can see the versatility in it yourself. Very much so. It's like Ben Godfrey of food. A bit, a bit. No, because I think Chris know what they are. I don't think Ben Godfrey quite knows what he is yet. I know, but if you start putting them in sandwiches, Chris might start getting a cob on with you. I think we were made for that. But he can do the job there. No, I don't. And they do enhance it. I would say, yeah, you might be made for it, but you're enhancing. I know, but aren't you, but isn't the point of like Chris to be a little side dish? Aren't you only you should have a sandwich with a nice filling in it and then have the crisps as a side dish? Suddenly then, what is your side dish if your crisps are in your sandwich? That's the question you've got to ask yourself. I'll be honest, I don't ask myself that deeper question. I think also we need to think about regional variation here and for anybody listening in the East Midlands when Peds said get a cob on, and that's he's not referring to another type of roll, which is what they refer to in the East Midlands, which would then be confusing again as to what getting a cob on is or indeed getting a cob in isn't, you know. But we have said cob here in the pack. You get a nice cob from the bakery years ago, which did used to be like a tougher barm cake. Cob was always like the one that's a bit harder. You've got, yeah, you've, like, if you think of it like Evan and Defenders, you've got like Mason Holgate was like a barm cake, where it's like you look at it. It's a proper barm cake, isn't it? Yeah, he's there and shrugly, and you've got Ben Godfrey who is shoulders like a proper hard barm cake. The fuck going on? No, sorry, I retract that. I've taken Mason Holgate. Michael Keane is the barm cake, soft. Nice, nice and soft and fluffy. And then you've got Ben Godfrey who's the cob. There you go. What's going on? I don't know what happened there, but I don't know. Adam M says if Evan went under, what would you do with your Saturdays? I wouldn't do it. If Evan just ceased to exist. Just went, just went. And on the far side of my shirt, it's a real possibility. If Evan would know, what would you do? Would you go and watch football or would that be it for you to think of football? I don't know what I'd do, but I don't know. That's a tough one. I am like useless. I am like a really, no, I am like a really useless person. Like I don't, no, I don't do anything with my time. Yeah, you are bad with your time. You don't use your time. I don't do anything, like to some weekends, I just don't leave my house. Are you getting to the... And it's not even like I just don't do anything, I'm not. Are you getting to the stage? Do you think you'll get to a point where you think I actually have to start using my time to do things I want to do? Like having an epiphany? Not an epiphany, it's just doing stuff. Because if you're saying the things I like to do aren't really, they're not really things that I think you can just do on a whim in this country. Like I like to explore and I like holidays and stuff. There's a big lot of this country. It's not like on a day though. Like you can just go on a saty and just go, I'm not one of those people who you see pictures of at the top of Snowden ironically. Like a cosmic scouser who's just had like an epiphany about their life. Just loads of them in Liverpool. I find it dead weird. Lads in the late 30s and early 40s. Yeah, because they probably realized that. No, but it's weird though, it's weird though. I just find it weird. Or they're trying to get to the top of Snowden in a Land Rover with a big snorkel on it. Like I just... No, that will be weird. That will be weird. I just don't get it. Okay, so you don't know what you do? No. It's the real answer. Dave, if Everton didn't exist, what? Well, I mean, for starters, it's just like an extension of the closed season, isn't it? You know, it's that same empty feeling that you have. A half past four on a sunny afternoon when you're just thinking, well, you know, you sort of automatically go to have it, you know. What would I do? I don't know. Did you watch all the football? I think I would eventually, yeah. Yeah, I think I would, but I'm not sure that I would do it straight away. Yeah, yeah. I think that there would need to be a period of full action and cleansing and reassessments and rebuilding and all those other constructive words. And then and only then might I perhaps think about. Well, I mean, I suppose it's one of those things. That's what it's, you know, it's trying to rebuild yourself after something has sadly died. It is a it is a thing, though, isn't it? Because you do. Like it's subconsciously you you tie to that timetable in your weekend darkness or like like this Saturday, Everton won't be playing and it'll feel in one respect. You think, well, they can't ruin me day. So that's good. But in the other respect, you kind of think, well, there's no game. You're just waiting for point of celebrities, aren't you? There you go. And then obviously I define that and it is weird because you think, oh, be lovely and relaxing. But like, even with like, with like Zach's footy, I don't think there's a game this Sunday and I'll get up and be like, well, it's not relaxing because there'll be other games on that. You'll be what? No, no, but I mean it. No, but even I even find it in like we laugh and say in air. I come and thought probably because I've been in the crap. Can't wait for the season to be over and the season finishes. And then the first ones are right. It's sunny and you go, ah, no footy. After about three, you go, when did he start playing friendly? I don't have that feeling though, honestly. Yeah, it's the vomit down that much that I'm just like. It's getting less, but it's still there. So I don't know. I don't know. Maybe we'd all be fine. I think I think what I think at first it'd be weird. Then you'd go into that thing of like you just do other stuff because that's what you do. You're fine. But I think I would watch football. But I think I'd watch it. You'd never be that much invested ever again. No, you just watch it and go. That was a good game or I'll go on. I'd probably go around if I'm around. I'd also be a bit annoyed. Would you be in the world? Yeah, but we just come up and shut up now. No, I don't know. Train, track, I don't know. No, Scotland with Dave Vitty. The Dave Vitty, looking for bush. In search of bush. On a bike. On a bike. Cubby. It Cubby don't want. Favourite place on the world says Jake Thompson. What? Yeah. I mean, we're getting we're getting more narrow cast. We are very specific. This one, Jake Thompson, your favourite place on the world. You know what he ever beat on the world? Can't get on the world. Never be in the world. All the bitch. By the way, that's something that really pisses me off actually because everyone gets it wrong. And they do. Yeah, they kind of say, yeah, this this this letters come in from from Bob in the world. No, it's not in the world. It's on the world. It's on the world. So up, you've got a favourite place on the world. I don't know. Tresheroeks. Is that the world? No. OK, fair enough. I don't know West Cable. West Cable is lovely. She's all right in here. You've got, you've got hickories there at the leafshows. Which has, which has that little weird bit of the water. It's a little bit of diamond. Psycho drop. There's an actual house in West Cable that was in Grand Designs. An actual Grand Designs house. It doesn't surprise me. No. Hoyle. All of them. All of them, placers. All of them, placers. All of them, placers. 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It was like, I'm going to be coming here next year to watch. You know, just on the stadium and stuff, you know, I know you can't get up here all the time, and of course you've got work and stuff like that, but would you consider getting a season ticket for the stadium so that, you know, and obviously not going on a match by match basis, because it will be a huge thing, it will be a huge moment for everyone at Football Club and obviously a lot of people want to feel part of it, so is that something you'd think about doing? It's something I would think about doing. I mean, you know, I had a season ticket in the Paddock for years and had to, I didn't have to get rid of it, but I did get rid of it a few years ago just simply because I just wasn't getting there enough, you know, my daughter lives with me down here, and so that's a sort of major responsibility of weekends and stuff, and it was getting the point where I was only getting there, you know, a couple of three times a season and, you know, to be paying £300. 200 quid or whatever, 200-300 quid a game just seemed daft when. I know enough people at the club that I can always, I can get hold of tickets on a pay-as-you-play kind of situation, you know, and just do it that way, which makes more sense, but that said, I do miss my seat, I think as much as anything else, I miss the whole community aspect of that, you know, the people that you sit around are important, and they become the match for you, you know, and when you go and you sit somewhere completely different, it's just not the same, you know, it's all part of that community thing, that catching up with people that you sit around you, who are all part of your circle, so I would be tempted again, but exactly how that will look, I don't know, but it might be something whereby, I don't know. Yeah, because it would be completely a different one, and as you said there, the people around you, I mean, for all of us, the people around us will be different. Do you know the thing about the other day, it did it, we talked about it, we've done videos about it, we should have had more videos, but that's another story. We've done videos about it, mean you have a conversation about it quite regularly on and off camera, it did hit me the other day when I stood in front of it though, and I was looking, it did for the first time, almost like a reality of like, I'm going to have to leave my house a little bit earlier, that was the first one. The second one was where the hell am I going to park, now it did hit me, I was like, this is where we're going to come to go to match. And it stinks? And it did stink, it did stink the other day. To be fair, it wasn't as bad the last time I went, it was terrible, but it was mad just looking going, but it was sunny, it was freezing. But you're in the shadow of the stadium, it was freezing. It was just like, jeez. But yeah, that reality of like, it's built basically that's where we're going next year to watch everything weird, dead weird, such a weird feeling. I can't wait. Generally go out. No, no, it'll be good, it'll be good, but it was a bit weird. Like the last couple, jezdi says if you could be reincarnated as a cartoon, CGI or animation character in movies or games, who would it be and why? Jez says he thinks he'd be told in Mario Kart racing around while micro dosing seems like a good way to live my life. Abbi Tron. Micro dosing even. Who? Tron. Tron. Yeah, Tron. Okay. You're aware of the character Tron, you look a little bit. Tron is in the bike fella. Yeah. The bike fella, yeah. It was Tron, yeah. That's Tron when I was looking thinking there can't be two Trons, I'm not having this. So you've been Tron. That's fine. That's fine. Why would you think it was two Trons? Just because the way you looked. You were looking at me, it's like you give me that stare as if to go. I don't know whether he knows who Tron is. I don't know who you're doing. Still don't know who you're doing. It was in the 80s. The 80s, wasn't it? Big Tron. Big Tron, okay. There you go. Dave, have you got anything to weigh in to you? No, really. But I don't want to feel like I'm not taking part. So for that, I'm going to attempt to be part of the cut. It's not really my world to be honest with you if truth be told. But I'm going to say Super Mario. That's a show. You could have been anyone you know. I mean, you were a child once. Surely there was animation. Yeah, this is true. I mean, yeah. Even back when I was a child animation was. It was there. The round of the thing. There is a, you know. I'm interested to know who Bazaz is because I'm pretty sure Bazaz older than you Dave. I'm older than Dave. So therefore, you know, it's not what mine. I think I beat Drake when I unshotted. I think he's quite cool. I thought you meant the rapper, though. Not the rapper. I wouldn't be very good at rapping, to be honest. Although I can rap on me in Christmas presents and birthday presents. Other rapping is available. I bet you're really good at rapping. You strike me as being one of those people that's very meticulous. And do the corners really well. Do the corners. All the bits that I let go. Make the ribbon. My rapping is poor. I think I want to be poor because of that aspect. People, the score can't be asked. Just like last tape on it. Do you know the best thing to wrap stuff up in? And I think it's often ignored. It's actually. It's overfoil. Absolutely. Because it naturally just holds. Goes the way of the thing. You don't need to. And it will wrap itself around anything. You don't need to tell a tape or anything like that. I mean, it's good in one way. It's good. It looks like you've, you know, samities and stuff, people's lunches. But it works and you write this minimal. I think you could accessorize it. I think if you got, you know, those little sticky sort of Bowie things. Right? A few Davids on the top. Throw a David on the top. If you go and stick a couple of those on, you know, and then it looks a bit more, you know, like, you know, you can get away with it. What if you get slightly confused and you give your daughter a Chris butty for Christmas? Yeah. Well. Times are tough. Times are tough. Absolutely. Thank you. Interesting. Very interesting. Like that's the questions. I mean, it was a bit random. But this is what the real is random as you saying, have you watched this film? Cut the three of it in there. I like the fact as well that you make a sort of excuse for the fact that that section may have felt a little bit random as opposed to everything else that we've put out. It was so well-structed. It was so well-structed. Push going up Snowden was so well-structed in that conversation. Looking for the famed shop at the bottom with the Evertonian. I believe so. That's what he said. I'm still waiting to find out where that is. He said I'll dig a bit deeper. When are you digging deeper? What you're saying is you don't know and you won't know till you get there. Yeah, that's it. The digging deeper will arrive on Thursday when he's climbing it, won't he? Basically, that's what he's saying. Classic bush. Classic bush. Right. Anyone's Joey? It's him. He's Joey. He's gone there. Right. Nice one, Dave. Thanks, boys. That's the end of it. We'll be back next week. Thanks for listening, watching and everything else. Like, subscribe, share, comment, do it all. Do it all. But always. Wrap your presents in tin foil. See you later. Do it safely. Exactly. Bye-bye.