 Business interoperability, the strength we possess as a country. My journey to at least two states in each geopolitical zone of Nigeria. A simple answer keeps ringing a bell in my head. Have we really explored our comparative economic advantages in our diversity? Yes, you had me loud and clear. We do have strength as a country. We are yet to fully a nest, which is business interoperability. The goal of a sustainable successful country can be achieved if firstly the social needs are catered for, which are the food, clothing and shelter. According to mass law, the primary needs identify fall into five groups. Psychological, which is breathing, food, water, sex, sleep, homeostasis, excretion. Then the second one, safety. We talk about security in terms of body, employment, resources, morality, the family, health and property. Looking to the third, love and belonging. We talk about friendship, family, sexual intimacy. We talk about the fourth one, esteem. Serve esteem, confidence, achievement, respect of and by others. Then we look into the fifth one, self-actualisation. We talk about the morality, creativity, spontaneity, problem, problem-solving, lack of prejudice. Acceptance of facts. This informs the basis of people's need and what we can offer as a country. So we talk about food, which is basic. It is a known fact that food is essential to life. Niger as a country has what it takes to feed our citizens without importing from other countries. What we lack is proper handshake. Though it comes with its own challenges. Clothing. We produce raw materials and only concentrate on exporting them. We need to start improving on the indigenous fabric production plants. Invest more in improved fabric designs or designers at reasonable rates. Then we explore technology. We need to take advantage of technology innovations in payments and communication to bridge the gap between producers and consumers. One important thing to look out for is costs. One of the greatest challenge doing business in Nigeria is cost. There is need to understand the strengths of the target market. What is obtainable? What you can offer and are affordable the solution is. It is right time we think as a communist and relax on thinking as a capitalist. We may define the opinions but I am a strong advocate of communism system of business and government. As all parties will always be in a win-win situation, growth is faster why everyone protects their investment. You are talking about community. How about economic and social justice? Can the government please provide enabling environment? The only way to grow the economy is by engaging the citizens, those that are business minded. Everyone should come together and do something. Consolidate relevant partnership both locally and globally for local benefits. So in both lies on the table of government. No matter how enterprising and individualized, we see subjected to the policies or the system put in place. If the system is not encouraging doing business is frustrating. I mean we just highlighted earlier on that our leaders in government don't respect women or don't take care of women. To me that's 50% of the workforce who are going to be demoralized. We also highlight through Tolu the fact of security which you touch based on. I know that problem. If you look at those two topics that we've touched on today, we're bugged, we're in trouble. Because these are two crucial elements that we need to thrive as a country. And all government, I differ from you a bit that capitalism can't work if the government was neutral and provide a fair playing ground like you mentioned. Fair playing ground mean they should be the judge and give everybody equal rights. No oligarch monopolies. Yes. They should cut down on monopoly like American did with JD Rockefeller back in the days and stuff. You understand. And provide and enable an environment where everybody follows the rules and regulations. If you do something wrong, you're punished for it. If you do something right, you're glorified. If those little elements are not there like we've mentioned, if women are not giving the Jews like you've mentioned and security is not there like Tolu has mentioned, we are not going to reach our full potential. And that starts from the leader. That starts from our people and from what we've seen and what we've read, we're in serious trouble because our Senate and the House of Rep think 50% of the workplace are useless. Women. Are you sure? That's true. You have made a very valid point. Because another thing again, although that will lead you into your own conversation, the idea of we respect working together, let's see the uniqueness of every aspect of this country. There is something or there is a kind of business or a kind of way of mannerism of doing business or a way of livelihood that is pertinent or that is relating to certain cultures in this country. How can we harness that for our own collective economic roots? No, we are having a... So I have to come in a little bit there. So when I say business of communism, let's say for example Leki Toget. Let's say the shares were opened up to individuals to say we want to do this Toget, we want to construct this road. But for us to equip the cost of this road, we have to do it too. And it is open for every individual to come and contribute. Now, one thing it does is everybody feels for every Tofi that is being generated have a share. No, for people saying don't pour water on the road because it spoils the road. They know immediately that road spoils are affecting my share. Automatically I will protect my investment. So it's not just about some seller people or we can say cabals set up the business and say either it is profit or loss, they make their gains. I am the one paying or I am not the one paying, they make their gains. So looking at it from that perspective, you see everybody wants to protect his investment. By the time you allow people to participate in the business itself. Now, looking at it from an under perspective is where you see iron skin. You see iron skin being produced majorly from the north, from Zarya, from Kanu and is being exported out of the country. And you see the same iron skin being needed in Aba to produce bag and shoes. But these Aba people are not having a proper handshake because of the buyers that we have. Traverse sentiment, religion sentiment. And you see them being importing same raw materials that we produce in Nigeria. Importing from another country and sell to produce their own goods to sell to the country. Then you take advantage of the kind of handshake we have in recent time to say lake rise. Lagos state doesn't have land for farming, enough land for farming. But they see opportunity in KB states. I'll finance this plant, I buy off. It's an handshake, you understand. It's all about government. Just like you said, if the government are ready, we can actually have the handshake and we can actually secure ourselves. Because I know how the lake rise we are talking about beyond just the money and the land. There is value chain, there is logistics there, there is branding, there is OCs and stuff like that. So there are a lot of businesses. That's patriotism. Exactly. And you have it. There is no cost of landing. There is no cost of saying you are importing and you have to pay for clearance. You have to pay for cargo and all those kind of things. No, they overcharge and make it ridiculous. Do you understand? We have to value our own. We have to value our own. Exactly. We have all these things. Nigeria is a great country. We just need to value our own. Looking what government should make great enabling environment. Openness is Abdul. Stay with us after the break.