 What resources or tools do you often use to keep yourself up to date with the current happenings in the industry? Well, ethics and publishing is a huge deal. So COPE, which is the committee on publication ethics, that they've been a great tool for me just to learn the ins and outs of ethics and publishing. And the International Society of Managing and Technical Editors, I've been a member for about a year and a half now. And they've really been a fantastic resource because it allows me to connect with other members of the field. And it just gives me an opportunity to see what new trends, new innovations in the field and see what other journals are doing that we could potentially be doing. That's what we gave, yeah. I think of the networking opportunities that these conferences offer are amazing. And CSC is also one of those really good conferences. But I think CSC is more on the copy editing and then more on the publishing side. ISMT, really beautiful managing editor group together. Right, it's a completely different field, really. You're managing editors or in technical editors. It's such a specific area in the field of publishing, it's just nice to be around other people who kind of understand what's going on in your world and can give you advice and suggestions on how to do things better or just give you fresh ideas. Yeah, yeah, I remember my first ISMT meeting, I heard someone say that finally I have fellow colleagues who actually understand what I do. Yes, people say that all the time, yes. I don't have to explain what I do because if someone from the outside asks what I do, it's so difficult to explain your job because a lot of people don't even know about it. That actually surprises me. Yeah, I have to admit that when I first took the job with ASGE, I was a little unclear as to how an association and a societal journal ran. So it's a great learning opportunity and it's been just really wonderful using that as a resource to connect with other people and learn so much about the field. Someone who's played a major role or been a great mentor in your career so far because they always say when you're sticking up your first job, it's not about which company is about having a good boss because that's where usually any personal experiences of how your career's happening so far. Yes, actually, speaking of boss, I have a fantastic boss. Her name's Deborah Bowman, she's the, she just had a title change which is fantastic for her but she is the managing editor, senior managing editor of clinical publications for ASGE and she's just been a fantastic guide through this whole publishing world. I've definitely learned a lot from her during my time at ASGE and I think that together we've actually done quite a lot of new and innovative things with the journal and kind of pushed the boundaries of what people expect from a scientific journal. Any advice for people who are interested in getting into STM industry as a career or for other early career professionals? Just really learn as much as you can about the field. You wanna make sure you're doing your research. Like I've mentioned before, ethics and publishing is a big thing to be familiar with and I would say just keep on top of new technology, new trends, what's the next thing going to be in the field so you have something to bring to the table when you do get that first position. I would say it's good to be, you've hit kind of an area that you have an interest in. If you have a math background or a scientific background you might wanna gravitate more to a journal or publication that relates to that field but just really read all you can. You really wanna make sure that you, like I said, you're up to date on anything going on in that field. If, for example, I work for a medical journal it's great to take a medical editing class, maybe read, just even online read some of the things that, new innovations that are going on in the medical field that you're interested in. And really just make sure that you are kind of building an eye for detail. That's always important if you're gonna go into scholarly publishing.