 Okay, so this is our traditional DevConf N plus 2 in your city. As always, I have to remind everybody we're now going to see four bits, four great teams of people that are willing to put a lot of work into hosting DevConf. This is still just a first step, a first presentation to make all of us want to go to their countries. It is not a formal commitment of anything, but it's important for us to be aware of the proposals and to prepare ourselves to enjoy being with them. So, DevConf 20 in your city. We know next year we're going to Brazil, to Curitiba, but we have four candidates this time. So, I think I had them here. We have Israel, India, Bratislava and Portugal. Well, Bratislava is not a country. It's in Slovakia, so let's fix it. And to determine the order of the presentation, we will just shuffle them. Okay, so first to go is India. I was requested to just reconfigure my display, X-Render, Output, LVDS1, Leftoff, Display Port 1. Sorry? No, Auto should put them on the same place as I have now. Yeah, and they don't match so anyway. Because, oh, it's HDMI. Okay, LibreOffice. So, it was called DC20, DevConf in the Abla Odepe. Thank you. Hi, everyone. I am Raju from DevInIndia, and we are presenting the bid for the second DevConf in Asia. I have been talking about hosting the first DevConf in Asia for like 2015 or 2016. Of course, clearly, we have missed the boat, but we don't want to miss the second chance. We want to make the second DevConf happen in Asia, in India. So, here's the bid. First question, why a DevConf in India? So, we actually have a lot of different kind of motivations to have DevConf in India, but some of the motivations of the Indian people or the members are one of our famous mentor or DD from India. You might as well know him. He is Praveen, also known as Pirate Praveen. He is a long-time DevIn developer. Just to give a brief intro, he has like, he maintains over 700 packages in DevInMain right now, and maybe Sponsor of the upload has like over 500 and he has like over 100 pending in the FTB queue to be uploaded. So, he does enormous amounts of contributions, and he has been mentoring a lot of us people, a lot of us who have become DDs and DMs are being mentored by him or has been mentored by him. But Praveen has not been to any DevConf, never. So, we some of us decided that if Praveen has not been to any DevConf, let's bring DevConf to Praveen. So, this is our chance. So, it's up to you guys, it's up to us to make it happen in India and let's make DevConf in India happen. Okay, so when you guys would come to India or when DDs and DMs have come to India, how they are treated in India? So, just for a showcase how they have been treated in India. Here's a famous, like here's a happy moment of Jonas and Siri somewhere in the fields in India. So, a lot of DDs come to India around the year. DDs, DMs, DPLs come to India and we host them. We try to host them sometimes and we take them around places. We host them in whichever city they choose to go to. India is diverse, a lot of cities are there. Sometimes we organize Minidip cons in India because the DDs are there. So, let's have a Minidip Conte. This is Minidip Con of 2015 in Mumbai. We had it because Jonas and Siri were there and in the picture you can see three DDs. There's Kartik, Praveen and Jonas. Of course, we are famous for our food. So, we host all our DDs with delicious meals. Let's take a look at the diverse free software communities in India. If you would go to this URL, you will find a map of all the Linux user groups in India. The list is not complete but still has a lot of Linux users listed. It looks something like this. You could see that there are multiple, there are various groups around North. There are like two in North, there are a few in the East and you could see a lot of density in the South. That is where most of the DDs and DMs belong. In terms of activities, the North is not far behind as well. We have not narrowed down on exact venues yet but considering the vast geography, we have narrowed down on particular regions or cities where we could host Stepcons in India. I have circled the regions where we can have it. You could see that we have circles where we can have. You could see a cross in there. The cross is actually on Goa. Some people want Stepcons to happen in Goa and a few people have told me while preparing my bid that if you have it at touristy locations, people won't be at the venue and would be roaming around the beaches all the time. But it's up to you if you want Stepcons to happen in India. Let us know, request that and we will make it happen in Goa. Otherwise, we could make it happen in the hills in the North or at the coastline in the South, up to you guys. There are a lot of diverse options about the public transport in India. A few people raised concerns that if you have it at different locations, would we be able to reach from international flights? We can reach from international flights. There are actually a lot of international airports. You could see that all the greens and blues and the oranges are the international airports. Even in the South, you have a lot of international airports to reach to. So it's not a problem to reach anywhere in India from international flights or domestic flights. Also, particular modes of transport depends on where you are in India. In different cities, different kind of transport is available. And of course, we have the auto rickshaws or tuk-tuk that some people call, which is only found mostly in Asian countries, is there in most cities as well. And we have metros at a lot of cities as well. Food. One of the most important things, deciding factors. We are famous for our food. It doesn't matter if you're a vegetarian or a non-vegetarian, we will have diverse options for you. The vegetarians would have, like, even if they try a new dish for each day, they wouldn't be able to finish or experience all the dishes in India. The variety is so diverse. On the left side, you could see a lot of vegetarian dishes. On the right side, the non-vegetarians have a lot of options as well. So you could see meals from the South and the North, different kinds. On the right side, you could see fishwares prepared in banana leaves or the tandoori chicken, which is famous from India. So food is very diverse and everyone would enjoy it. Finally, we have a few DDs famous in India and this is one of our DDs, Balashankar, and we keep this trigger wherever we promote debon in India. So people find it themselves. You would find it out if you get to India. So give your support for a great debcon in India. Thank you. Thank you very much. We will have the four presentations and then we will proceed with the questions. A minute, multiple screens are evil. Do you prefer to have the notes or to have it? Good morning, everyone. I'm here to explain why you should go to Lisbon for 2020. It's in Europe. It's been in Europe for many times. So it's a good time to go there again. The venue is good. We have sunny and pleasant days. We have tasty food. Plenty of opportunities for social events and you need to stimulate the open software community in Portugal. Where it is, there is an expression in Portugal that it's a baramar plantado by the sea. It's in Eastern Europe, in a beer in Peninsula, near Spain. This is the venue, the scenic view of the venue. The venue is on the top of the hill and everything will be inside of it. Best Engineering School of Portugal, which is under the years of history. Great hall with 300 cities, plus two auditoriums with 100 seats. That can be the main talks. And several classrooms for clubs and for the organization. So, for example, the organization can store their sinks. That's one of the problems this year. Food. We have several options for vegan and vegetarian. And you have very, and you have traditional food from Portuguese. So we have something like Zidá Portuguesa, Carpura Calenjana, Prego, the traditional meal for a snack, Bacalhoconatas, a modern dish, and Pastéis Nata, something very famous outside of Portugal. And some people remember from Cape Town because there are a chain of Portuguese restaurants in Cape Town. You have very good expressos. That's our main way of drinking coffee. And it's called Bica in Lisbon. We'll have several canteens inside the venue where you can choose where you will feed the community. And if you don't like the food, there are many, many restaurants near the venue. Chinese, Japanese, Italian, Brazilian, Indian and vegetarian. The summer will be hot and dry. They're expected to be something like 25, 30 degrees. That's the typical weather in summer in Lisbon. Because it is near the river, this means that the weather will not be so extreme like near Lisbon. There will be very little chance to have a green sky or rain. That's not typical. What you can do for fun time? You have beaches, very good beaches, in several places near Lisbon. You have night markets, bars and discos for the people to have fun during the night. You have many music festivals near Lisbon and around Portugal. By many, I think there are more than 100 by all over the country. So that is on the end in dread, where you can find all the music festivals you can have in Lisbon. And this will be a slightly problem because in July there are some very important music festivals near Lisbon and you have to try to choose a date so you don't conflict. So it doesn't skyrocket the accommodation. Local team. This is the people I've been talking about. This is Debkov. Spa is a DD, me myself. Beth Max. And Rui Pibi is a question mark because you have not yet confirmed. I have other people. I have people from Spanish and Brazilian DDs have many first interest in helping and you have the support of Brazilian delegation to help us. Obrigado. Thank you, Jose. You remember the order we have in Israel or Bratislava next? Bratislava. Israel. Just to make sure, are people following IRC? I mean, because we will need it at some point. So please come for Israel. Okay. First off, I'd like to start by stating that I'm all for second Debkov in Asia in 2020. Okay. So this is Haifa. Haifa is on Mount Carmel near the Mediterranean. Weather is quite like Lisbon, sunny, and people are also, and likewise people are also warm and friendly and also with reasonably good English. And I think you could get by OK with just English. There are plenty of things to do in Haifa on your off-debconf time. You know, you can just look at the view. It's a mountain, so you can just have a look or even look from the cable car. There is a zoo. There are quite a few interesting buildings or just enjoy the variety of the local foods. There are plenty of variety of restaurants of all type and of course the local ones, where you can find falafel, hummus, labneh, and whatever. Downtown Haifa, that's the area near the sea where Haifa originally started from. By daytime there are, well, government offices but also some cafes and shops. By night time, this is the area of, this is the focus of, this is the focus of interesting night life with restaurants and shops and a good place to be in. The venue is in Haifa University. Haifa University is on Mount Carmel itself which means that it's a bit, it has cooler weather with better winds so it's not as humid as, it's a nicer place to be in at this time of the year. And we will be in the dorms of the university. The main talks will be probably around here so it's a walking distance. The main hall has 380 seats. There are plenty of smaller classrooms for about 150 or so seats and smaller rooms. So there are plenty of rooms to use. The dormitories have 2 people per room but also a bathroom per room so it's easier to be in. The university, the computer science department of the university have been very cooperative. They've helped us a lot in connections with other parts of the university and also with other parts of the city, with the city hall and all of that. So there are currently 2 alternative locations. One of them is the Congress Center. Congress Center is located near the Matam Industrial Park, sorry Matam High Tech Park which has many high tech companies but is also closer to the Railway. But the thing is it's not in the university, it's not the nicer place on top of the mountain but it's more accessible in that location. The other alternative is a new campus of the university in downtown, again more accessible but it's currently still under construction so at the moment we can't really tell when it will be ready. Okay, so well we hope to see you in Haifa in 2020. Thank you. Yes, 2 additions? Yes, can you please go to the microphone too? One point is that all the companies you saw on the High Tech Park are potential sponsors, especially when it's in the same city and they might send part of their employees and their students. Also Haifa hosted Wikimedia 2011 and we already have a letter of intent and goodwill from the city hall and they will be happy to have another open content or free software event in the city. Good, thank you. And we will now have Andrei Shadura. And now for something completely different. Hi, I'm Andrei and I'm going to tell you about Debcon in Bratislava. I presented this idea very roughly at Debcon in Montreal last year so I'm going to shorten up the introduction a bit. So why have Debcon in Bratislava? Well, after having so many Debcons all over the globe this may be our first European Debcon. Bratislava is a small but nice city, well-connected part of the EU. Good wouldn't be a plentive attraction to round. So let's talk about progress. We've got two primary venue candidates both located at the same university campus close to the city centre and really close to each other. The first one is the recently built information technology faculty called FEED. Modern with good equipment. The management are willing to host Debcon but it's a bit expensive and the cafeteria isn't big enough to accommodate all participants. So if we go with this option we may need to use facilities of other faculties. The next candidate is MATFIS a faculty of a different university much older but because of this we may get it for free. The management is friendly to the conferences and they've hosted some but there are some accessibility issues which I believe are solvable and we may need to check the technical equipment is suitable for our needs. The downside is that renovation may start next year but so far there's been no news. I will be meeting the faculty management shortly to find out more. The campus belongs to two universities there are multiple faculties so quite naturally the student accommodation is very close to the potential venues. There are three options of accommodation accommodation is very cheap because during summer most of the students move out so they're happy to offer rooms to external people. Here are some ideas for the day trip. Now risks. If MATFIS closes for renovation we'll need to deal with fees and the bill may be too high for the value we're getting but hopefully not. The next issue is the team. A couple of people signed up for the core team and there's an organisation which also may help us but the people who signed up haven't been active yet so I need to make sure they engage more. I've tried organising local Deben meet-ups I hope I can get more people involved that way. Hopefully there will be many deaf students in Bratislava so we can test the venue and hopefully grow the team. That's all. Thanks for watching and see you in Bratislava. Okay, thank you Andrei. I would like to ask to one delegate from each team to come up if there are questions to be answered and for people having the questions please ask them now. Again, the venues are in the first stage of preparation some of them have already been but we can expect things to develop a lot still so please go to the microphone and please sort this out yourself. Yes, hello. A question in particular concerning India I understand that it's in summer it's rainy season in many parts of India so what is that the case and what would be possible or good dates for India when you... You asked about the summer, right? Rather, okay. It depends on the season and by the current dates it would be the end of summer and the start of monsoon or rainy season so depending on where in India we are the possible dates preferably should be by end of July and within August. That would be the best time. To commence and one question about India I think you should decide on the location and not we because I think the location depends a lot on the local team I think you should make it up and not us. About Bratislava and the same thing I'm a bit disappointed that N represented it last year and still doesn't have a team now I think that's not so good we really need teams and the questions about Portugal is poor you said July is the festival season why they not choose another month? August is the most expensive month in Portugal and July I think in the last two weeks in Portugal you are not competing with other music festivals in Lisbon. We could also make it in June or September. Yes but that will be class time so maybe the rooms will be not available I need to check. There was one TAPCON I've been told afterwards that the organizers were concerned about my safety in the country I would like to know any concerns about safety of attendees both in general like wars going on with Israel or something or specifically for LGBT people? Normally it's not an issue as for LGBT or similar I don't consider this a problem in Israel wars in Israel are not that common as you hear in the news just look at the statistics yourselves Does the same question applies to me as well? We don't have any security concerns for LGBT people there are many Indian people around so you will not have any issues regarding your safety or stay anywhere we will make sure of that I particularly consider one of the safest places in Europe so I don't think there will be a major problem with that what I don't recommend is to leave items unattended because there are reports of some stolen goods from time to time so I think there should be no problem It was requested for me to put the list of the cities it's the list of the countries The presentation Haifa had a pride parade for the last 12 years so LGBT issues shouldn't be a problem that is true for the rest of Israel as well there might be a specific neighborhood in Jerusalem which might be a problem but we just don't do a day trip to that specific neighborhood not a problem for the rest of the country I can add a little bit to that from two different points of view I lived in Israel for over one year at that time the first time I went there it was a high time for security concerns it seems we were all very worried but once you're there things are just as quiet as anywhere I mean, yeah, there are some attacks you cannot foresee them but people live normal lives same applies, for example well, for narco-related violence in Mexico I've never seen anything, I've lived all my life there and so, I mean, I strongly recommend everybody not to fall prey to what the news say about well, the general security of a country a country is huge so, yeah Hi, can you explain about to get visa to enter in your country and about Israel and how it works to Muslim enter the city it's okay, there is some difficult okay, I put a list in the bid of visa requirements I'm not sure I'm not exactly sure but when I think of it of countries with DDs or it's mostly India and China that are required to have a visa again, to talk of my mind I'm not exactly sure as for Muslims Haifa has a large Muslim community it shouldn't be an issue the visa requirements for India are usually like most of the European or American nations most of them have visa on arrival or they have e-visa you could request an e-visa for around 60 days some countries like I think China China and a few African countries require visa if you would just do a search on the web you would find Wikipedia map of visa requirements for visiting India it's fairly easy, it won't be a problem I didn't check the visa status but Portugal belongs to the Shagon space I expect it to be very similar to what it was in Heidelberg this question is for all the teams but particularly for the Indian and Israeli bids I didn't get a good idea of what the local teams were going to be from either of your bids how strong are the teams? who are we expecting to have? I think the team has the time to run a deb-con because it's a big job I would like to add it would be best to have at least some four people dedicated to it absolutely right now we are three that's me, Lior and Talat we get some help from the university and we should be able to get again, once this is more substantial again, towards deb-con we should be able to get to enlist other people from the local Linux and FreeSoftware community which we know very well in the presentation I showed a map of the FreeSoftware user groups a lot of user groups are quite big and you might have seen a large density in the southern part also the user groups in the north are pretty big as well the one in Delhi or the one in Pune or Mumbai are big as well Do any of them actually know about this bid though? Are any of them actually aware of this bid and has anyone committed to this? I have mailed it to the Deminindian mailing list I have also asked a few DDs and DMs about it in particular and most of them said to go for it we have like five active DDs we have around eight DDs some of them have retired we have like three DMs right now and a lot of them have been contributors so the team should not be an issue hopefully As I have started to prepare the bid while I was here I don't have yet a strong local team I have been contacting people contributors from Portugal and I have been talking with people around to get help from experienced people from other depth confs to help me and I think it could be a good opportunity to create a community of open source in Portugal because there are users but there is no, I don't know any Linux user group I don't know, there is no strong community in Portugal so this could be a good opportunity to create one I just want to add to this during the past few days I have been harassing Raju and Jose to make the bid so I mean they have not yet assembled the teams having user groups is not enough having people that would be interested is not enough you have to get a commitment but you have time to get that Just to add one thing one of the first things I have done when I was trying when I got the idea of doing a depth conf in Portugal was to contact my management teachers that are responsible for IT department and they are in favor of it so I count to have some help from the university to prepare for preparing the conference More questions or are we done? Oh, please, please It's probably too soon for this question for all of you but a difficulty we have had with this depth conf has been transferring money into Taiwan has been quite slow and painful How difficult would it be for Debian trusted organizations to move money into your countries and are we going to need to set up local organizations if we are going to run a depth conf? You might not know the answer to this yet but it's something to start thinking about As Portugal belongs to European Union I don't expect to have problems transferring money from inside Europe We have organized quite a number of mini depth confs in India and we do have local organizations that could be made as a trusted organization for depth conf so that should not be an issue I believe that it is not an issue from my initial research into this but I am not yet sure I think this will be the last question as we are close to running out of time I let up, we have a free software association in Israel it's already got money from abroad and sent money from abroad so there is bureaucracy but it's completely possible Okay, you know the people even if you don't know personally Andre I can assure you he will be happy to answer to your questions They are here, you can grab them well, if you are not opposed to being grabbed Thank you very much for preparing this work and I hope to give you metric tons more work in the near future Thank you very much