 My guest, Reed One, O'Larry Wadjou Mui Li, is a young business magnate from Lagos, Nigeria. He graduated from Gay Tree Polytechnic in Shakabadi, Oregon State, with a degree in business administration. O'Larry Wadjou is the founder and CEO of Rabmot Automobile Licensing Agency, an online vehicle documentation company that exchanges the narrative of automobile documentation using the path of technology to make it a seamless process for all car users in the country. In 2021, O'Larry Wadjou founded Rabmot to provide solutions to real-time problems in the automobile industry with the ultimate goal of expanding its reach to other African countries. As a young entrepreneur, he is passionate about using his company to make positive impact on humanity. O'Larry Wadjou is a creative entrepreneur who is dedicated to combining creativity, innovation, and business expertise to create a stress-free experience for car owners. He is recognized as a pioneer and leader in the vehicle documentation industry and is committed to using his platform to advocate greater inclusivity in business. He joins me now as we dive into documentation for car owners and other issues. Welcome to the show, O'Larry. Hi, Dustin. How are you doing today? I'm doing very okay. I trust that you had yourself a restful weekend. Yes, obviously. I had a weekend and I'm happy to be here as well. Okay, let's talk about car documentation because you will agree with me that somehow, aside from the fact that it affects some daily lives of just people on the road, it also somehow affects the business and the process of doing business and how it is impacted on daily activities. Specifically, let us start this way because most of the times we go on the road. It's popular we hear, where are your particulars? As it is, that's the normal thing we get to hear on the street. And most times we try to avoid the road safety guys, the VIO guys, and other road transport officials by the day. But what are some of the challenges people encounter in car vehicle registration and what solutions can provided really? Basically, I feel like for someone to actually make up their mind and say, I want to acquire a vehicle, they have intention to really start a vehicle. But when you have to go through the horror of stress, it's just to get your documents shut down, to get discouraging. One of the problems that people encounter when it comes to vehicle registration is the hazard from the teeth that you have to go through. So trying to, from the queue to your precious times and all of that. And you have to spend money at the same time. So it would help if you felt discouraged, like I have to go through all of this just to get my documentation done. And people take action steps to use maybe a roadside agent or an authorized agent and put it like that, which also delay this whole thing and make it so discouraging. So when you see people don't feel like, OK, they don't want to renew what they do, they actually looking for a solution, right? Something to give them a stress-free experience and which is one of the things we are offering right now to make sure that people get to renew, register or anything else to do with their vehicle documentation, which is, right? And some of the solutions to that is by providing an online registration and renewal, whereby the booking goes to a particular person. Put in the information on all of that, take it from back in and this thing can be done under five minutes, right? You go to your website, you slot in your information that is needed for the particular documentation you want to do and the process commends and you receive it as your doorstep. Imagine how stress-free that can be. It saves you time, it saves you money, you can send to every other thing, right? Why is it to get to register your vehicle paper legitimately? And another thing, talking about legitimately, a whole lot of people get to really understand how this thing works and no car owners owns a car and they don't even know what those papers are holding back. You understand? And which is really, really distracting. Some people ask them, do they really know what vehicle license does, what road is it all about? They don't. So I think there should be a way of advocating and that's what we're trying to do right now advocating for the inclusivity. To let you know that yes, you can actually know your documentation and what this thing stands for and yeah, basically, those are the solutions we're trying to provide alongside to counter the problems. Okay, before we get into the crux of it as it is, let's talk about this documentation per se because most people haven't really shown what documentation they really need to have. Before we get into the grace period, before one can register, we knew that documents yearly. Specifically, very quickly, now let's just walk at a quick pace. What specific documentations are car owners supposed to have so they don't, for victims, to the authorities like the VIOs and the FRSA? Okay, so basically for the car owners, for you to be able to apply the rules successfully without any issues, you're supposed to have your driver's license, which is number one. It's key. There's no way you can drive on the road without your driver's license. That's more like your international passport that gives you the part that you can actually go. It's not like your access card, right? So apart from that, when it comes to the documentation side of your vehicle, your vehicle license has to be up-to-date. Your insurance has to be up-to-date as well. Same as your road ordinance, right? And your approval ownership, right? And allocation. These people that I just mentioned have their specific rules to play. And I'm going to break it down so that everybody can actually understand. So vehicle license is more likely, you know, the model of all vehicles because it's the one that's heavier than one, right? That shows that, okay, your vehicle is registered legitimately one. The approval ownership already like when you hear the name approval ownership is the people that satisfy that have that. I am the owner of this vehicle. My name is my information, my address, my phone number is on this vehicle. It shows that it's helped me claim the ownership of the vehicle, right? That's the purpose of having a proof of ownership in terms, right? Another one is the road ordinance. Road ordinance doesn't suffocate. It allows you to apply the road that shows that the GIS or the PROs have actually run its tests through your vehicles and shows that your vehicle is road-worthy. The vehicle can actually apply it without consent issues or damages or accidents on the road. You know, putting yourself at risk and also detract other drivers on the road. So that's the purpose of having a road ordinance certificate. Then also we go into insurance. Insurance is another free share document that you have to have. Like every car owner has to have insurance. You may wonder what I need insurance for. It's basically, you know, for your purpose and other people on the road as well. All of this, you know, stress. For example, you have a collision on the road with another vehicle and you have a third-party insurance. You don't have to worry about the other party. The insurance company comes in and takes your order. All you just have to do is fix your car, right? Then the insurance fix the other party. Take care of the damage, right? Another thing is, when you're talking about insurance, they also have compressive insurance which is more like, you know, the premium part of the insurance and the owner of the vehicle and also the third party. So these are the things that we have to consider when we're talking about, you know, putting documentation in place. Then I make mention of allocation paper as well. Allocation paper, our plan is through by, you know, letting the officials on the road know that this particular plate number is dedicated to this particular vehicle. So without allocation paper, like I said, allocation paper means this plate number is allocated also so and so that all these make up vehicles and model and, you know, all those things come to it. You know, having your car's information like the engine number, the chassis number, they make the color. So it's actually like one for one. You understand? So that's actually how it works. And those are the necessary documents that you should have on the road in Nigeria. Well, good to know now. So let's talk about registration and maybe renew up because I know it's done like yearly for most of the document, but is there like a grace period for car owners and what exactly, or when exactly is the right time to get or start the process of vehicle documentation renewals? Okay. Basically, when you purchase a vehicle in Nigeria, there's no grace period you are expected to register your vehicle immediately because without registration of vehicle you could see yourself on high risk one. So, you know, you're open to penalties, right, by the officials in the sense that if anything happens to your vehicle, right, and is not registered, how do you expect the police to not be traced if the vehicle has not registered? How do you expect them to carry out their investigation and all of that? So that's the reason why it's very crucial you register immediately you acquire a vehicle. And when we're talking about renewals as well, renewals does not have a grace period. Immediately it's expired, you're expected to renew. It's even advisable to renew your vehicle license or vehicle documentations in months before the expiration date of few weeks at most so that you can be on the safer end because something about, you know, vehicle documentation is. Let's say for example, yesterday was 24th of March, right, and my documentation started yesterday 24th of March and this morning maybe you're taking the kids to school and you pass through with this camera because your vehicle was expired yesterday. It doesn't mean that the system will overlook it. Immediately you'll be fined if you pass through the vehicle and the system also does things like it automatically regulates. So if it's discovered that your vehicle has expired and you're yet to renew, even if it's just an hour, right, even if in minutes they go, like it expired and you pass through the camera, you'll be fine. And something about, you know, getting a fine is it will find not just one particular fight, it will find your road and that's 20,000 an hour each. So that's more like a 60,000 an hour fine when you can actually renew your papers with less. So it's actually like, you know, putting yourself at risk and also getting you to spend more because after paying that fine, you still have to go and renew your documents. So it's advisable to renew before it's expired. That's the most stupid way to expired. Okay, still talking about licensing and licenses really, for instance, I'm a valid driver in the country. I have been certified by the authorities, by Legos, Legos Drivers Institute. I've gone through the training and I have my license from the FRSC. But if I travel abroad, can I really drive is my national driver's license valid? Okay, basically, like the name implies, right, we call it national driver's license. Which shows that it's basically within your country, right? That's where it's valid. You can use it to drive anywhere in Nigeria, right? Without nobody stopping you. But when you are going outside of your country, you are expected to have what we call IDPs. What does that mean? International driving permits. Which shows that you can, you've been driving your country, satisfied by the official, so you can be expected to drive abroad. So this is another license entirely that will give it to you here in your country before you travel, right? So when you get to wherever you are outside of your country, and you show them automatically they allow you to drive or even rent it by plane, right? But without that, you can't be able to, you know, drive with a national driver's license. Unless maybe there's a document or there's something that back it up, right? But apart from that, like on a base, you're not expected to drive on international driver's license. How close is your country? Okay, let's talk about this documentation across country right now. Can you register, say for example, your car in Lagos and you relocated to another state and you are doing renewal. What documents are renewable outside them where you actually had resided? Okay, basically let's use for example someone in Lagos and the person registered is already in Lagos, right? And you maybe through work or something you would transfer to Pooja soon to to restart for a while and you need to register or renew your records, right? The one that's actually you know, that can actually be renewable is the route ordinance because why route ordinance is a federal paper, right? It's actually a regulation one particular template, right? And also insurance as well can be renewable. But vehicle license might actually be a very major problem for you to renew another state, right? If they have to renew it, they have to go through a stress stress by imputing it freshly into your system, right? But it's actually advising to renew your documents in the states where you register because if you actually registered in Lagos and you renew again in Appuja, automatically the one in Lagos database will still remain invalid. So when you come down to Lagos and you want to come and renew that same particular vehicle, it will show you that you still have a standing whereas you've been renew your documents from Appuja where you reside during the period of time. Okay, so that's a concern Ridwani, you will agree with me, if we are in the same country, all of this cannot be centralized. We're talking about online application right now, online process and so how come maybe, I don't know if it's the part of the government or the part of licensing agencies, how come these things cannot really be done just like you had told me, these things can be done from the comfort of one's home. But why does one have to still go to a particular place to register because for some reason you're not in that particular state again? Okay, so basically how it works is, so these states actually use different rules, right? I feel this should be a major concern like you said where the government can actually regulate these things. It basically happens in the licensing industry, right? Because each states use different, you know, platforms right? Like Lagos state use auto rent, right, while Appuja and some other states use DRX. So DRX has their own database, regular license also has their own database, right? So if I'm under auto rent by Lagos and some other country that use auto rent, some other states that use auto rent I can be able to renew my documents without stress, right? But if I go to where DRX is actually functioning they have to be like, you know, put it into their system freshly. So I think there's a way you need to be regulated but when you're dealing with, you know, the licensing agency like Rapmort we make sure, you know, we follow suit because we are actually in different states, right? We have Lagos and all that. So first we know that your vehicle is registered in this particular state. We don't stress you to go and start a renewal. We just send it to our branch but okay, renew this and send it to us in Lagos. If the client is in Lagos, we just make it stress free. You don't have to go to that stress yourself. We do the open and make sure we give it back to you at the appropriate time. Alright, as we run off now I'm read one. What are the ways, if there are I mean, of validating or confirming one's vehicle documentation you've done, let's say for instance I come to you as a licensing agent and I want my documentation to be renewed. There are ways I can actually validate or confirm online very quickly to note that I have valid documentation as in seamlessly. Very quickly, please. Okay, great. There are actually ways of confirming this documentation legitimately. So there are some platforms you can go to. So for example if someone renews a license and you need to validate it is legitimately, all you just have to do is just go to verifier.autoret.engine verifier.autoret.engine and you input your license plate number there. This will bring out the details to show that yes your document is registered legitimately. It's expired until today. It was renewed until today. There's a few information about your car because you don't have to put all your information out there on a open portal like that because someone can just grab your license plate number and you know get your information. So privacy and order. So it will give you few information and you will know that this is my very good actually referring to and also to confirm your information as well as the portal for that as well which is Ask N I I D ASK which is Ask N I I D Ask N I I D .org. So you go there and check policy check your policy and you choose single instead of leads. Then you enter your plate number as well. This will give you the rundown of your information. So now you can confirm your insurance. We are completely out of time. I guess we might need to bring you again on this show because there's a whole lot to talk about when we discuss about road wardeness transportation and vehicle documentation in the country specifically in Lagos and of course other states and that have fallen in line too. I must say a very big thank you . You read one. Mui Li is the CEO of NASMOT Automobile Licensing Agency. Many thanks for the useful insight that you have provided on the show for today. We do appreciate them. Thank you so much for having me and glad to be at the show as well. Alright and that's the size of the show for today. My name is Justin Acadonia. Many thanks for being there. Bye for now.