 Got our agenda pulled up, I don't know if we did this last time, but should we do it just a quick check in, how are we all doing? I can start. I am good. Got away with my family last week for a little Vermont staycation up near Crosbury. Did a lot of cross country skiing, which was awesome, and a much needed change of scenery, so feeling pretty refreshed from that. Hey, Shayna, we're just starting with some check ins. Thank you. Sorry I'm late. I was running late, no real excuse. 5, 10, and 12. I'm just blown away with the ability of kids up here to do things like skiing and stuff. I'm blown away too, and they're my kids. My five-year-old, I've been downhill skiing with her this year too, and she's just amazing, bombing down the mountain without a fear in the world, so yeah, it's great to watch. Wild. Shayna, it's Michael Sherman. He's on the call. We're starting. Oh, okay, sorry. All right, I had to block my screen. All right, bye. I'm glad that was caught on recording. That's awesome. I'm really sorry. I've already said congratulations to Lauren as well, is that? I'm excited. All right, let's keep checking in. Who's going to go next? I can go. My kids, 14 and 12, were at home. They had a winter break for 12 days, and they just start the school today, and I think my holiday will start today. Plus working, right? Other than that, there was nothing new in my life, so everything is smooth and we are still healthy and waiting for the vaccination. I have asthma, but I checked the high risk group. Apparently I'm not in it. So just waiting to hear. So I can go and get my vaccination and be ready for the rest of the year. That's all. Do professors count as educators or is that all like K through 12? Cool. My, my kids. Don't, aren't you, don't you teach at Norwich? Would you count under that? Yeah. Yeah, I teach online. So I'm at home. Yeah, but Matthew will get into that one. Yeah, I heard that teachers are having their vaccinations soon. Yeah. Which is a good news. I have lots of friends who are teachers and they were really anxious and, you know, they didn't know what to do because most of them are like doing face to face teaching. So I'm relieved for them. Now I'm waiting for my turn. I can check in quickly. Yeah. Very excited and grateful to be back for another term. And I've been working very hard with some amazing volunteers for a little, a little city council race, which has been fun. And now I feel like I need a break to get up and some sleep. But, but it's been, it's been great. And just so excited to get to continue this work and some other great projects in this role. So thanks to everyone who, who helped in many ways. I had nothing special to report except I got my second COVID shot. And did not have the, the reaction that I guess 60% of the people do, but anyway, it was easy. And now I'm just waiting out my last two weeks before I'm super immune. Yeah. Flonting it around town, surely. I just got a date for what, I mean, not a date for what I'm getting it, but I'm type one diabetics. So I'm now on the list for March 15th. And I'm like, I had a little party and yeah, very, very excited because I've been very obnoxiously careful. And I probably, I was also, I was like, I'm not sure how much of that is going to change once I get the vaccine. Like my parents aren't vaccinated yet and other things, but I'm feeling really, really hopeful. Yeah. Cameron, have you been Can't complain. Same as always. You know, yesterday was town meeting day. We had a really great turnout and overwhelming margins for the budget. So that is a big source of work that's behind us since now we can move forward with that budget. So I'm really excited. I have nothing personal to share because I have done nothing. And so Work's all I got. We're doing good. Good. Should I kick us off here? What's that? Do you want me to keep us going or you want to take the reins? Feel free to keep us going. Yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, great. Thank you, Jeremy. I can do that. So next up is just to review and approve the February minutes. That Michael sent a few days ago. Has everyone had a chance to just quickly review those and anyone have any suggestions or edits? Okay. I move we adapt the minute. I can second. I got, I missed it. Who, who, who made the motion? It was me. Oh, okay. All those in favor of adopting the minutes. Say hi. Hi. Hi. Opposed. Minutes passed. Right. Moving along. Anyone have anything to share of interest to the group and our work? Any learning, reading, et cetera. Actually do. I've been going, there's a. A couple of different LGBTQIA groups. That came together and held a bunch of forums for. That group. And I belonged to that. So I went to those. And there was a couple, there was like one on aging and housing and racial justice. And they've led to some really interesting conversations. And we had a meeting last night. That was sort of like the culmination of the series that had a couple of our. State legislature on the call. And we sort of talked about. If we had. You know, funding and like funding was not an option or not. What am I thinking of? What are the words? Anyway, if funding was not an issue. What would we be focused on? And. I. There was a lot of insights there. And that report I think is. They're sort of compiling all of that. We'll have a report that I would love to share with y'all. When it comes to fruition, but. I think it was a, you know, I'm not sure why. Yeah. But there's a number of ways we're. Asking the legislature that was there to really support the position that they created in the state. They, I can't remember what her title is necessarily, but I know she's like the equity. Person for the state. Funding that in a way where it can be useful instead of. Just sort of a check the box position. Wifi infrastructure and other like, you know, ways to connect our rural communities and then talked about aging in place, which is a big concern, you know, and how that sort of ties into everything. And there was a couple of folks that I talked to who are really interested in like bringing the city, proposals for like congregate living spaces, intergenerational spaces, which I thought was really interesting. So as soon as I have like something tangible that I can like give you out of that, I will definitely share that information. But they were really cool and I'm glad that they happened to me a lot of really neat people. Thanks for sharing that. I can share. I did this Jewish Organizing Fellowship in Boston called Join for Justice, Jewish Organizing and Student Network. After college and I just got, they're doing like an online organizer training program with different like cohorts for like clergy and for like Pittsburgh area Jews. And then there's also like a cohort for Jews with disabilities that I got asked to be a trainer in so it's like a seven week long series and they're providing like the content but then like to like hold the hold the groups and stuff. And there's just like a lot of really incredible readings as part of it both with around like disability justice like that everyone's doing. And then also just around like the state of the world that we're in and so I'm like trying to find like not feel like here's the full curriculum because it's a lot of reading but I'll see if I can find one and I'll maybe share it in the chat later on but it's just a lot of, you know, during during COVID right now like how are, you know, in indigenous folks getting to the polls and responding to, like, you know, there's like articles just about like kind of all all sorts of different stuff is kind of part of like the opening. And then we'll be getting more into like the training parts but I just hadn't read some of these articles and I thought they were really powerful. So I will, I will find one in the chat. Cool. Thank you. Anyone else have anything to share. Okay. Let's keep going then. So let's hear some updates from the various city committees that members are involved with. So I know we've got the police review committee. That are only one or maybe the community, the community fund committee to Michael and anything from the city but when we start with the police, police review. Lauren you want to talk for the police review committee. So I can give an update and Michael flush it out. So one of the big efforts we're doing right now is outreach so there's both partnership with the creative discourse crew for some of the outreach and then doing some other outreach for some groups that aren't part of the creative discourse like victims of violence or survivors of violence and some other groups and so we're kind of in the process of figuring out how to, how to do that outreach to connect with people and do it in a way that doesn't create harm. So that's kind of an ongoing process of figuring out but that will be a big priority of that group where, you know, which kind of intersects with this effort of course. So that's a big area focus and then there's just a bunch of like research and, you know, looking into different policies. And as that gets, I think a little bit more kind of laid out, then it might be worth sharing some of that with you all just to get input. If you know for whoever's interested. I don't think the group needs to do to do it formally but just knowing that you all might be interested in looking at that, you know as that starts to shake take shape for like report and recommendations and like the kind of vision for community I would be, I think it would be great to share with you all for for whatever input you would want to provide. And I think April 5 is going to be a general public meeting so once we get the details on that we can share it. Those are the highlights and Michael or Cameron what else. That's good. Is the committee planning to make some kind of present initial presentation at that public forum for folks to respond to or is it more just seeking perspectives from community folks. We're still in the discovery stage so I think we have no, we've been meeting with various folks. We had Rory, Tivo, the state's attorney for Washington County met with us, and then Ari, what was his last name from the public defenders group met with us last time. And we're doing, we've blocked each of us has an assignment of one or two topics to collect information and send, send questions along to chief Pete. And we're trying to just continue getting information before we start making any public comments so that that April 5 meeting will also be information gathering. Great. There's nothing much to report from the community fund with the passing of the budget all of our recommendations were then approved were therefore approved so you know, we're done until next November. So that's really, that's the cadence you'll kind of lay low until now. Well, yeah, I mean we meet once or twice in the middle in the interim to review our application to make sure that you know to see what what turned up in the years in the previous cycles, previous cycle that might warrant some further changes to the guidelines. And then we meet shortly we meet again in the late summer to set deadlines and to have a plan for outreach to, you know, get the applications out. And then they go out and then we don't do we then it's usually the deadline is usually the Monday after Thanksgiving. And then right shortly after that, within a couple of weeks early in December we meet to review the applications and make make our recommendations. So, it's very intense for a couple of months and then like duty for the rest of the year. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah, Laura. So noting, which we could think about or people could think about before our next meeting so for city council. Usually like March into April is when we do strategic planning for the year so identify our key initiatives. You know, obviously, keeping, I will keep like the project that we have ongoing but if there's, there's anything else that really does shape like where we, you know, put time on the city council agendas and where you know it's both to keep, I think, focused and so staff note can anticipate like what's coming up for the year. So, you know, obviously other things come up but it's, it's really helpful if there's anything we think we might be wanting to work on to get it in that, you know, as part of that process so that it's like on the radar of both the council and staff. Great. I wonder. I'll put this to you Shayna, maybe we could reserve some time at our next meeting to have a focus discussion about what we might kind of pass to the council. I feel like it's the timing is a little bit goofy because we're going to probably be getting the presentation from creative discourses about what their recommendations for the strategic plan should be like, right as you're in the midst of it, you know, so I'm, I'm just feeling like like want it. Yes, I feel like we should probably talk about it and that we're going to come out with these recommendations probably like right after the city council does the time. And a lot of it is like issues that people want to like do work on it. They're not like fleshed out. So I, you know, it could be as simple as making sure that, you know, that space for moving forward with the recommendations of the creative discourse, you know, our C. Jack process are part of our strategic priorities for the year and then like without, and then the details can come later. So I think, but so I think that could, I was assumed would be one of them that like I would be bringing forward so like the way the process works is like different counselors are putting ideas on the table and then we kind of all discuss them together and come up with a set of priorities and you know whether or not that becomes a priority of the council writ large like a lot of it gets captured as just things that are on the minds of various counselors so I'm also realizing I think I think that most that we could. Yeah, and most of the focus groups are going to be completed by over the next two weeks and so before we meet again so even if we don't have the report maybe we should just invite Keisha and and Sue and maybe Tabitha to like just do like an oral report back of like okay here like the top three things that are going to be in our report and so we could just kind of get that on the table and see it. I think that would be that would be great. I'll put that on my agenda talk to them about. Yeah, that would be super helpful. Cameron any other city news to update on other than the election. No. I don't think so. I did. I will share it. I'll email it to y'all. Creative discourse asked the city for a sort of definitive statement that we will do X with the recommendations that come out of this and, you know, that seemed. Not wrong by any means but just we couldn't say with definitive like we can't I don't know what they're going to recommend right. I don't know if all of it could be possible or feasible. Just within our budget constraint, you know, also with our capacity as staff, you know, there's a reason we hired creative discourse so. But I did write so so I wrote something that I think answered a lot of their questions is how we will be held accountable for this work and how accountability is built into the city systems and what that looks like so I wrote that document and sort of asked them to check the language and they were good with it so I will that with y'all that was done today so I'll copy y'all on that email but it's just a statement that says we're going I mean we are taking this seriously this is important to us this is an ongoing process. We're going to act like accountability for doing these things this is not work that's going into a void which I think was the issue that they had was that all of these folks are going to come and put a lot of emotional energy and work into this for us. What are they going to do with it right. Are they going to speak it into the void, or is it going to actually accomplish something so really wanted to as much certainty as I can give that this sort of work will be ongoing. You know the only thing I couldn't promise was the immediacy of everything right. So, I will share that with y'all, but that's I think the only update I have. Okay, so it's over to you Shayna for whatever updates you have to start us off on the creative discourse work. Yeah, so first of all, we're having the meetings. It's happening. It's been so long and then I feel like all of a sudden they're all happening within like two weeks and I was a little bit of. So, thank you for Cameron for mostly for creative discourses for dealing with that. But yeah I just wanted to just kind of do a check in about the scheduling that's happening and then the group, the like the groupings of these groups that has been shifting around. So, and then wanting to talk a little bit about outreach particularly for the March night focus group. And so, excuse me. So, for the affinity groups as you guys have probably seen what was initially going to be 10 meetings is now three is now seven, not three. So, pushing together kind of the folks with precarious housing or financial stress, people with disabilities and young people into having one meeting. And so I can pull up. Sorry to do this beforehand. Just a little bit more of their rationale for that. Actually, I think I emailed over that ration their rationale for for why to do that. And their plans are to have like breakout groups within that, within that meeting. So, how many people come. So just kind of overall like we have all these meetings schedules we have like a good number of people RSVP for each of them creative discourses is now sending out the confirmations to the folks who had signed up and you know making sure that everyone knows what to do with the project and things like that which is great. And the only one where we are where there's like not really enough people signed up to have it be what was envisioned was this was this third, this meeting where there's the three groups coming kind of coming together. There's not a lot of RSVPs and just like not a lot of breath within those RSVPs. So, for the, like young people cohort, I think they said they've been doing a lot of outreach but that they are feeling like a lot young folks are just really tapped out and really, really zoomed out I suppose and so, but they want to you know, checking in on if we should do more concerted outreach there. And then I've gotten so on all like the emails and stuff that's been going on from porch form and things I've been putting like my phone number on the bottom are going to be like, or it's on the, I think it's on the, on the form. So, I think a lot of calls from folks were saying, why are you doing outreach for people with financial stress and housing and security if you need to have a computer to be able to participate in the call and like to be able to sign up for the call. And it's like, yeah, you're like, yep, that's, that's real. And so talking with creative discourse on Monday. Another suggestion was to have flyers to post around town. And so just, you know, recognizing this meeting is just next week. And so I drafted the flyer that I touched the email, but that sues here. All of these things are like, 54 different emails so I'm sorry. Can't remember all of this. The response was like, um, you know, like having the directness of inviting people to join without having to RSVP, but like putting the zoom link the phone number out there in such a public way would open us up for like zoom bombers or for people to participate in the RFI is being part of those groups like we would just have no control over what that could be which could be really awful and really disruptive and and so the, you know, suggestion that Sue had was like, have people call a phone number or email someone to ask for the information to join the session. I, so I was going to do this yesterday but I just was feeling really stuck with how to do it and I wanted to crowdsource from you guys about how to do this. So that was two things so one for changing around the groupings and the timing of these meetings does all of that make sense is anyone have any questions with any of that. Just tell me again the housing housing disabilities young people and people in financial stress all four of those. There were three groups so it was people financial stress and housing insecurity. It's still its own was what no that was like going to be one. And so it was those three people experiencing financial stress and housing insecurity young people and people with disabilities are now like all going to be in one group. Okay. Yeah I haven't had. I haven't had any response from the, the youth contacts that I reached out to. I will try again today. So I don't, I don't know if it's because I don't have relationships with folks and they don't trust when I'm ringing. So, yeah, I'll just try again but crickets. I talked with Matt McClain who is one of the three people who works with students doing stuff outside the school. And he he was right before school break and so he said well wait until the students are back in school. So you may get something this week or next week. He's on the agenda now and he'll talk with the two who do off school off campus internship for learning and then he has some other position within that group but anyway he said it was a good idea and he'd he'd work on it. Maybe something will happen. And he'll get, he'll get back to me but I could call him and let him talk to you directly if you'd prefer Jeremy. Yeah, I mean, you know what I mean is if he needs to talk to somebody that's fine but really, we just need him to promote it with the young people he knows and get them to sign up through that form. So we don't, we don't need to have a lot of like steps in the process if he can just, if he's clear on things and can communicate it to whatever students he's working with and get them to sign up and I think that's what we need. Okay, well, maybe I'll be a little proactive and send him the form and say he can distribute. On it, you know we're having people RSVP ahead of time, but we're just for this one I think we're just going to have people signing up until the very last moment. Yeah. And Shayna if you want to put my work phone number on the flyer. If you don't want to hand out your for anybody's personal numbers please do that. My number is a public number anyone can call me anytime. And then you, I mean, this is like all the logistic and then would you like write down people's numbers or emails or just give them the zoom or the phone call information like right then. Yeah, I could just, yeah, I could do that. I don't have that zoom information so if you said, oh yeah. And, but yeah, I can just give it to them right then. So that would be amazing so okay so put out put out can't like call this number for the information to join at this time. And I can just put that on the flyer and then. Thank you, that'd be amazing. And then for the flyer and I, and I was just going to, I was going to bring us back to like another way and to Bethany church, not a stack but like a few. Um, like was, yeah, is there anywhere else that would be particularly helpful I really want to do this today if possible because it is less than a week away at this point or a week away at this point. And so just, um, should I print off extra stacks to bring to you guys to distribute or any other place that would be particularly useful. I would recommend the senior center because there are some who who are in that situation. Um, you'll also get folks put up the flyers in the bus stops and like the parklets downtown. Awesome. My other excuse for not doing this yesterday was it was so cold that the time was it. But I think I can do it today. So, you can use yesterday for as an excuse for lots of things. Okay, so I'll try to, I'll try to do that and hopefully we'll have a plethora of responses and we'll, we'll have to be turning people away at the doors but not if we're not going to, that's not going to happen. So, this will be great help putting them on today I can help you I live in one pillar. You just need to give time frame to me then I can at least come and hold your. Hold it and take it. Yeah. It's up to you. Just let me know. Yeah, I was going to do it around like 430. If that works. Well, go print them at 430 and then. Yeah, so maybe like 445. Fine. Whenever you want to email me the place and the time I will be there. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And then I also, we were going to your daughter had some connections to some students that we're going to reach out to two and I think that was more for recruiting for participating in this but I didn't know if you'd also reach out to them about coming to this meeting because coming from the youth would also probably be really awesome. You For our focus groups or this meeting you mean for the for the youth focus group. Yeah. Oh, no, I didn't mention I can. Yeah, this to I was just thinking about one creative discourses was saying another place to go for youth is the basement. Oh, of course. Yeah. At City Hall. Yeah, they are actually we've been letting them come in work technically close but they do come in so Okay. Great. Thank you for your creative discourse updates, Janet. Cameron, you were also on that call on Monday. Was there anything else to share, or do you maybe you wanted to share about how the first focus groups went to The first focus group was with general staff that were not public safety oriented and I've talked to quite a few folks. And that is no one reads my emails so a lot of folks were missing the context I think of what they were being asked to do. I think a lot of folks thought it was a training so surprise surprise. Um, so I'll I've one of my learning steps from that was to I'm going to go to the police and fire guys verbally tell them what is happening and what is expected. To say that went really well. My staff is really excited about it. I feel a lot of them are very invigorated by the conversation. I also had some action items come out of my staff. One of them being. We have a translation line that's paid through the police department. So other folks and other departments don't necessarily have access to that translation line. And we're probably under serving communities that we don't even know we're under serving. Because why would you go into an office that you know isn't going to be able to talk to you. We're working I'm working right now on talking to the school to see who they use, and maybe either asking them to piggyback on that or expanding our contract with the language line that we use for police department. That's available to everyone. So I'm looking into that what that means and what that would look like for us, but as an immediate action that came out of that that we're just going to go ahead and do so. That was exciting for me. I think also, there was a lot of folks who've never thought about this before in the context of their work. And, you know, I have received no negatives. So that's really great and I'm really myself so. Yeah, looking forward to hearing what happens in the next one. That's a great outcome about expanding translation services. Yeah, we're excited. I shall move on then to a fundraising discussion. Lots of what our topic here is so Shayna do you want to. Yeah, the context here is that we, we needed more funds for doing the, the compensation for participation, and excuse me, and so I reached out to the grand tours to who are supporting this work and they were like, yeah, it's part of the project like that makes, of course. And so that's great. And then that means that we don't have funds right now to pay for the second round or like the next round of the contract with creative discourses. So knowing that you know the next fiscal year is coming up, you know, in July, but like that there were a couple of other steps that we were going to do between now and then. And at the last meeting, you know, Michael was saying like, I feel like we've really hit a wall with with grant fundraising, and like that there's not a lot more options we can probably go back to the same groups that we have applied here, and we're still waiting to hear back from some grants as well, but that Michael, I was kind of saying like, I think we're going to need to do more individual fundraising and like reaching out to folks in our communities. And so I just know we had done this, like, six months ago and it was wildly unsuccessful. And so just wanting to like have it like, like, how does this sound for folks like should we slow like, yeah, just having a conversation about it because like, do we need to slow down our timeline do we need to just to rely more on the city budget do we need to do more like direct one on one conversations rather than like holding fundraising events like, especially now that we're going to have like kind of as you talked about Jeremy we're not like more specific things to fundraise about. Should we just hold off and like not even fundraise until we like, have the response from creative discourses and slow down in that way but um, yeah, just, is there any other fundraising next step, but mostly we've we've we can use the funds for the stipends which is great. I wonder about how, like, if we could do a little test run with some individual outreach like it's a very tangible thing to be like, can you contribute so we can sponsor so we can be hearing from people like here's what, like it's a very real thing for people to help and to like help ensure that people can participate and that we're hearing from people and I don't know if people would be interested in something that like as individuals or not. I feel like the previous one was more like we have a process fun process. I just get excited about. So, it seems worth trying to maybe do a little bit if we all identified, you know, three people that we know that we think might be interested to see if we've got traction and if we're getting traction and it seems like more effort and if we're like it's falling flat we could like regroup the email or something and we just like. I don't know I would just be curious like I think it's a kind of easy pitch and whether or not exciting to people I don't know but um, for now and then but then I yeah I overall still think like we'll have better luck with bigger opportunities once we're a little bit farther along and have more specific things to be. I think it's exciting to people like even though like expanding translation services like that's like a very tangible thing that might cost money that could we support that kind of stuff that but I don't know one idea. I agree with that I think that the effort to try to get people to come to another zoom meeting. And there are just too many zoom meetings going on and I think the most effective way and everybody who raises funds says this is you go to individuals. Because they're using your relationship with them to, which is a trust relationship basically if they if they think that you're on the level with them, then you'll be able to get contributions. I would suggest what I think Shayna was getting at if everybody if each of us chose three people and send that list to Shayna so that we don't have duplication. And, and then, you know, make commitment to contact three people. And, you know, in the next, I don't know if we can do it in two weeks, but in, you know, within within a month anyway. We can see what comes of that. And if it works well then we just to, you know, continue on that three more people and stuff like that. Because we're not asking for tremendous amount of money for this. But if the idea is that we're using the money for this this the stipends to have people participate or if we're starting to use it to launch projects I think that that's a far more convincing line and we need to hire a consultant. Well, and so this is this is a, so we can use the grant funds that we got for the stipends. So we're, we're actually we are good on site I mean that's right. But I just think that pitch because I mean anything that we don't have to use the grant for we could use for creative discourse or the other work so to me like saying like you can sponsor one people or two people or three people with $150 like I feel like that picture be easier to make and so you know and it's just like, yeah, great. And then freeze up the money for other purposes from the grant. That makes sense to me, and then right and then we can circle back on this conversation after we have the proposals and see if there's additional funders or whatever to to ask to support that work. Okay. I can commit to doing that. I commit to doing that. Does somebody, maybe it's whoever, or if somebody thinks they would have time to like write up a few talking points or if there was like a little blurb follow up with the link to how people can contribute. That would be super helpful. But put in the. Yeah, I can, I can do that. But feel free to make it your own because also I'm not not a writer so. Shall we move on to recruitment updates any anyone have anything to share on that that front. I have tried to socialize this through contacts at the Unitarian Church, particularly in its racial justice group. I can keep kind of pushing on that I haven't heard from anyone saying yes, I'm yeah. So that's, that's all I have to report on that front. Does anyone have any other ideas about what other channels we might pursue to recruit folks. When I spoke when I spoke with Matt McClain I also mentioned that we need, you know, we were looking for young members for the committee and he said he'd keep that in mind too. I'm also just wondering if we can flag this for Keisha and Sue to be like, if there's anyone who is really awesome. Like if that's going to be a breach of confidentiality or if it's just like a. We think you should reach out to them like a person. Yeah, at the end you can always ask them to just be like hey, you know if this is work that you're interested in continuing with the city they're always, you know, you're welcome to put in an application. Pitch it at the end, could ask them to do that. Yeah, makes sense. We don't have to. Okay. My computer just lose screened of death. I don't know what's going on. Any other thoughts about recruitment for today. Well, send that email to one to Keisha and Sue. All right. So moving on to our kind of catch all other businesses anyone have anything else to raise for the group today. I did. I did note that the website has been updated. Thanks Cameron for making that happen. So we are current. Thanks. Thanks for running this efficient meeting. Awesome. The agenda was there. I just read it. I'll just say I just put in the chat what I've been putting at the bottom of the invitation, so I've been like blasting out to everyone. And I think that is helpful language for free to snag it. Thank you. Donate $15 today to stipend one participant or $700 to sponsor a whole focus group. And I'll say we have gotten to donations in our PayPal during this time. Oh, cool. Sorry, I should have said that during the fundraising update. Cool. Well, I think there's no other business that's that takes us out to the end. All right. Appreciate all y'all. So it's moving. Okay. Thanks all. See you soon.