 So, e'n sgwyslau yn ymweld, yma. Hello, welcome to the final word, Wolverhampton Wanderers 3. Everton 0-8. Horrific end to what has been a horrible year for Everton 2023, but I am delighted to say I'm joined in the studio by Keith Muller and David Feely. It's been a while, but I'm delighted the lads are back. They were poked up malling you yesterday. Yeah, we're going to get into it. Two seconds. We're going to get into it. Yeah. We'll go deeper into the game in a minute, but just a brief overview of yesterday. To me was one of the worst performances under Sean Dight, I think, yesterday. But also, a little bit of context to it. Three games in a week. Threadbin, threadbin. Threadbin squad, they looked tired. They've looked, I'll be honest, I've thought we've looked knackered since the volume game in the cup. We've looked like we're running on a little bit of empty and when you take the quarry out and we have a little bit of an issue. Is that, do you think, that's a fairer session? I mean, he certainly weren't fair to the ball on anything yesterday. Do you know what I mean? And the press and a don't. I don't think the system was the right system, but I think where we were standing after 20 minutes, everyone in the ground was wave one of the evidence section. We were saying it needs to change the system, you know what I mean? So I agree with the tired thing. You know, I definitely do think that they didn't look at the races at all in any way, shape or form, you know? And they kind of just, we couldn't get the ball out of my feels really, you know? On the rare occasion where we did go forward, we need, you know, six or seven, eight chances to get one or two goals sometimes, don't we? Do you know what I mean? And so, you know, we didn't make enough chances and ultimately to kind of to make that difference, you know what I mean? Dave? Yeah, I've been really impressed with, away from home, this season has been up to yesterday, was, has been my favourite season. I do this every year, but it's been my favourite season in a long time. That would have been, we've had seven away wins by the, including the Cup games. In the Cup, yeah. And that's, I mean, we went through Lampard and Bonita and had two or three between the two of them. It's been grim. However, you write what you said about we bit a wall. It was always going to happen with the squad and losing to Corey's been a massive blow, but going back to what Keith said yesterday, away from home, apart from Villa, the first game of the season, and that was the Calvert-Lewin residue thing where he'd been out. We're terrified of losing him and playing without a striker again. And oh my God, this is all going to happen again. So there was a little bit of carryover from that. Ever since then, we've been in at least every game for example, we also went to Tottenham, the previous week, fantastic performance, lost the game. I didn't meet a toffee walking out that ground who had a cob on. Everyone clapsed them off, fantastic boys, is right, gave it everything. Nobody walked off that pitch leaving anything on it. Well, yesterday was the complete opposite. Myself personally, I'm putting it at the manager because the system was wrong. Against a team who were flying, particularly at home, who liked to sit right on top of you, it's like going into a boxing fight and keeping one hand behind your back. You've already handed the initiative in a team with the caveat. You've just both said the tired, the weary, they're out on the feet. What you want to do then is take them back and get, instead of trying, at least if you don't win the game, don't lose the fucking game. And he handed that initiative. And he's right what he said. I didn't meet a toffee in that ground who wasn't screaming to change the system after 20 minutes. We were talking off Mike before about Ashley Young at Anfield. It reminded me. Everyone's screaming. It's not working. Do it now. And he can be pedantic with that. I don't think it came through yet. We have been, even under a man in this whole rain so far, we have been decent away this. Even last time we were shopping away, we still got a steeliness into the jazz we've been in there for a while. But that's the criticism of me. It's subbed and sometimes he doesn't recognise, and find that difficult to believe that he can't see what everyone can see. So therefore, it must be that stubbornness. You could also be thinking there as a manager, if I bring him on too early and they get injuries, I've got nothing to change. And there couldn't be elements of that, you know what I mean? But also, as well, I think you've got to put it in context as well. I've just tweeted about the actual context this time last year, me and him, were that main road? No, not main road. At the Yetiad watching his draw with Man City, and we were still managed by Lampard then. That feels like ten years ago. This time last year, we were still managed by Lampard. It feels like a long time ago. And we made up because, you know what I mean? See, what they have added in that time, I think we'd all agree with that, is the far better organiser. That was the disappointing part yesterday. It looked like they just met each other walking out. It wasn't the same team that played for them. Dana, on own, Dana, at the worst game, individually and collectively, that I've seen bolted and played for everything. The only time he passed, he passed backwards. He never got anywhere near a tackle. I've had a post-on through a couple of times. Absolutely. They were poor. And so, we're going back to him being stubborn. Stevie wonder could see that yesterday. So, whether he's stubborn or not, he's got two coaches, three coaches sitting on the bench with him, going, gaffer, no. You pay me to advise you for this. I'm sorry, no. I was saying to these... Let me just jump in because we're getting on to the game. Obviously, we lost the city the other night. They're better than us. Some people... I thought there was a little bit of an overreaction from some people given their excellence. We're out on our feet. We haven't got our best 11. You need your best 11 on a whole world of luck to be the city. You need your best 11 on a whole world of luck to be the city. You need your best performance. But we come into this one and there was talk of going through a back three, and it might help us and all that. I mean, what did you think to... With the exception, probably a villar away in the cup, which we were excellent at that night. There's that, particularly. We've seen more comfortable in a back four. Even yesterday, when he did go to a back four, we just looked like we had a bit more of a back four. What did you think when you see in a back five? No, the reason that is the case is because the wingers in our team are really important. Really, the winger fullback is really important. The wingers in our team are really important. The wingers in our team are really important. The wingers are really important. The winger fullback dynamic on both sides. Michael Engel has been our play of the season, by the way. Michael Engel has been our play of the season, by the way. But that dynamic between the two, the overlapping, that's why both of those wingers start over Dan's humour every single week because they can be overlapped and then they drop in behind and they do the spadeway. And that dynamic is intrinsic to allowing us to access Calvert Llewyn, which then allows us to access Ducori as a secondary option behind Calvert Llewyn. It's the whole ethos he's built the system on. By going to a back five, you've isolated Calvert Llewyn for a start. Every ball that goes near them is a long ball because your fullbacks are dropping that deep and the wingers are virtually touching distance in front of them because everyone's bouncing on top of you. So every ball you kick out to Calvert Llewyn is up against two defenders. Dawson's a yard dog. He looked like Bobby Moore. He scored the goal in the end. He looked like Bobby Moore because it doesn't matter whether it's Calvert Llewyn better or whatever, it's a thankless task. The percentage, I'm not into it, but you know all that XG thing. If you look at the percentage of how many times you're likely to not only win a ball, what's a foot above your head, bring it down, turn round, wait 50 yards while someone catches you and you have an attempt on goal. It will be minimal. So what you've done is you've basically negated your best forward option, i.e. the fullback winger, algorithm kind of thing. You've taken it out of the game, then that puts more options on the two in the middle who stunk the gaff out because they're getting overran. So every time they've kicked the ball they're not even turning them round that's totally agree with me. The idea was that he was saying he would have three in the middle to match up their three. The problem is he didn't line up like that. We lined up in a 5-4-1 really. So you're still a man short in the midfield anyway. So what really that system should do is almost have it should be a 5-2-3 really. So McNeill and Harrison should have been almost up in Calvert Llewyn. So we were a 5-4-1 and the 5-4-1 meant like you said we're overran. If you look at it should be an arch. But you should be pushing out in order to adopt that system effectively you need to be sitting on or near the archway line so that the forward horns of it, if you will, the fullback horns of it are just inside their arch which then allows the other two to sit 10 yards forward. And now the wingers can get round them. We were sitting on our own area so the three what you get in that system is you get cover. In other words you've got an extra defender for corners or anything else approaching your box. Instead of two centre half you've got three that you're losing at the other end of the path. Well no, because you sat that deep the midfielders and the fullbacks are over on the pass here. If you look forward you're a man down in midfield your wingers have been negated and now there's five runners so having three centre half makes no difference so it's just not working. You've also got to factor into all of that. Systems are systems aren't you? You can sit here and say this is how the system should look like you've got to factor into when you were looking at them players they didn't look the same to you or the same players they were probably married with the flat that they looked like it and they looked like the same agency the same intensity of the team that was playing against Sollam. Well even Brantwight, who's been excellent he's been a great sign of Breveton looked all over the gaff yesterday now that's a freedom Dave he's been excellent it was a free transfer and he played out of the minute since he's been here so I'll give you that he's not no agenda however I think the other thing about it is if you get them staying on Dice I taught them for the first time away from home because you could see, you could smell it we were in this game here we gave two goals away in the first 20 minutes and could have been sent to the shop again and I've been in that ground twice four and five nil in the new place it hasn't taken them ten minutes and he could smell it in the last ten minutes where he put better one a long side Calvert Lewin cos in nothing else that makes them sit back just in case you do get behind him cos one goal at two nil brings a whole different dynamic about the place and I thought yesterday he should have brought Gomez and better one at least that half time and just said let's get a bit of control we probably still get beat and let's just see what happens our crowd away from home would you have left, would you have put better with them at least 20 minutes but you're absolutely right this is like done I think nine games would have had a goal he's not playing well now he missed the city and the other day as well just a similar chances but the other side and I know we have a lot of people in the comments he's not good enough he's a good striker he's not a top level striker but he's a good centre forward but you have to have you can't knock a ball up to someone you have to win the flick on there was an example yesterday and it was in the second half and we'll come back on to the way the game chronologically developed yesterday but they had a free kick in the second half I think it was at two nil the ball coming, Jack Harrison and it was the first man present on the edge of the day he ran after his own clearance he sprinted after his own too much of that goes we knock it up, he flicks it on and he has to turn and run after his own flick if you're going to be a big dad it should be someone there the core eight does it not at home, he better away but at home he should think this fella wins 60-70% of his headers so that's what's got a gamble if we don't have any body Dave yesterday we didn't have any body within 30 yards of dominion right that does it he's 30, 311 he's been playing forever but he's still a capable centre back you've got to make him uncomfortable he's not uncomfortable if he's got what he wants all you make him uncomfortable is you're turning both ways I'm running back towards his own goal that's how you do it he's around the ball it doesn't matter who's playing centre forward that's in my opinion I'm not slagging him for years 3 because I just said to you before we won seven games away from home up to Christmas unbelievable it's been away from home so I've got no complaints and I'll write that one off the same as the first game of the season and you look at the bigger picture the greater good and all that but that was tactical if you're going into a battle if this was Nelson at Trafalgar you use your weapons it's all about granted you need to cover up and to soak up pressure that's fair that's absolutely true but you have got initially if you don't hit people when you get the chance particularly at a ground like that where 85% of the point in any given season come at home we had a similar performance at Nottingham Forest the other week who are nearly identical to them in format they stay in this league because of the points they win at home for the most part and so therefore you're going there with a mindset saying they're going to be on top of us but what you have to do is when you get a chance you have to hit them hard and show them that they can't just be sitting on top of you because if they do you'll get behind them 2-0 and you can also defend when you get in a position like that yesterday it was like he forgot that we had any weapons at all it's kind of that as well but it kind of also shows you're talking about weapons and you're talking about like Trafalgar it's kind of all good what are your best regiments missing in it and I think we missed a Corry and I think we've missed a Corry because he's not going to be on that because he's there to support them and that's kind of what he's doing he's close to them there's an issue with this with the man and the team and the issue is I said this on my matriach and a few people were like well we need to get rid of the man and they didn't look quite that desperate now what I'm saying is it doesn't need to be that desperate it doesn't need to be that desperate anyway what they have to do is we saw this last year it's like having the same situation twice and doing the same thing and expecting different results we lost the Corry when he gave Harry Kane a little tap on it and it was embarrassing and the Corry went for 3 games they didn't have a good move out to play so we had a thing of if he'd lose this fella so it's evident that in strings we've evidently lost the four games he's missed if you include the penalty shoot out against Fulham which again was long ball but if we'd have had the Corry that night it might have been different because David Treffel at night was well full up but we've lost the best way to put it the four games we have on Adam because he went off for our time of being we've not won a game we've not looked Spears was a little bit different but we still started the game in the dressing room we were 2-0 down and could have been Brennan Johnson missed an open goal 2-3 in it but then we got all of it but I think what the manager hasn't been able to do and it isn't easy because we don't have anyone like the Corry what I've said is he's had to make a decision in some of these games if you're playing 3 at the back then why not start with 2 I'll tell you what lads Mr midfield, these want the midfield let's knock it to Dom and get Beto back in it it's a good night against City with 2-1 down Dara Kanji has hated Beto all night he's hated him because he's else he's horrible to play against Don Strip at 1-1 they score so it's 2-1 so the manager should have gone forget what I was going to do let's throw Dom alongside Beto Maglia, he's the ideal fella he's got nothing he's got no pace he's not great on the put you get Beto to get in his face and it gives Calvert Lewen or Beto, you say to Beto we know when Dom jumps running behind absolutely you know what it is and shake it up it may not work I'm not trying to say this is a perfect solution it may not very well work but at least it keeps them guessing and he just didn't work and the disappointing thing with him is he should be someone who gets it now I'm just saying it should have he's tried Jack Harrison it's okay but you still need to have everything else but then you lose the right side if Jack's not there and we've established can't come in maybe if Ashley Young was fit Jack could have gone back there and Young could have just sat in front but he's not there at the moment James Garner's there James Garner's useless there because he's better back there so this to me now coming into this month where we know we haven't got money this is pivotal they need to look and see who can we get on loan he's not going to be like the Corry because there's probably not many out there like the Cories what he then has to be then is that person who plays off the striker has to be either someone who's clever on the ball and can just play a little through ball or someone who can get shots away or something some squads in your who have got players we were kind of saying this yesterday we were looking at the Walls team yesterday look at the Walls they played really well yesterday we helped them they run us off the park we helped them but they run us off the park they run through our midfield on a regular basis I don't mean this disrespectfully but after players I didn't know after those players we both said that so you don't even know but they were quick and they could play that system they could play that system the sort of play so I think the players are there the players must be there whether or not we can buy them right now taking examples you just said about Harrison I wouldn't have necessarily looked at Harrison thought he would fit in our system but I'm not his greatest fan but he's 70% of the time we played and played well he's had a role he's done his share and he remember that West Ham and we were winning the game and I looked at the clock and he used to take him off about 65 minutes he'd swap him every game he'd take out and he remember looking at the screen thinking 85 fuck a minute he's still on the park because West Ham tried to do that pushing out pushing out sit on top here and what he did was he left him on and brought committee on because he's fast the kids got pace not very little else at this time but he's got it and so basically they had to drop back because he was saying go ahead sit on top of us what we're going to do is Jimmy Garland's going to get it and throw it 10 yards over you and now you're in a foot race with this kid who does it 100 meters in 12 seconds so he dropped back and Harrison was getting round the back taking it to the corner winning a free kick taking the clock down the kids going alright I'll give them a tick mark on his box there's got to be someone we've got this whole structure this whole scouting he might not jump out the page yet where you think oh we've got this I said to you about Tuesday all before I would get that kid, pick him up and carry him to this football court and install him in the midfield and say crack on for three years it won't be that type but you might find someone who doesn't necessarily jump out but he fits he's always got someone sat on the bench and he'll do it just a lot just a lot you're right though Dave because it's the thing is is that sometimes you're looking and you go well he's not like the court he'll put his foot on it or he'll give us something else just because if we lose the court he'll be playing for Fulham and then we would have really been fucked by the way no but particularly to Corry who's been in strength everything that's how close it is one man looks at him one man looks at him a highly played family manager looks at him and says he's a yard dog ship him out someone else comes in and said that's what we're saying so for the law market that's what I'm saying it'll give him an extra weapon and also we can use the court we need it then face 20 minutes we defended or I did have one break where onanna done super to be fair got back and went wangwst and the goalie held him up and onanna done brilliantly and that was the warning for us of like onanna break him he got a corner because we should have defended it was bad but then the corner is cleared and for once we don't stop the cross and that cross was going I personally might be a bit ars and the keeper should do it he just flaps at it but Kilman who's got one goal in his career before against Evan is reacts quicker than that I don't know what track off keeper's doing sliding back a pickford and I like him think he's sand but I don't know how you can slide back and somehow scoop up all where was he going what was he going to do with it I don't know but I thought he was grim yesterday I'll be honest with you I thought it was on I thought it was on we're not the racers at all no not at all but then we did have a great opportunity five minutes after it it was a good move actually Patterson on the right pings it in and McNeill does well Tom makes a great run that you want and McNeill slides him in he's got to finish it I'm sorry he's got to just it was reminiscent of that it wasn't in the same position or even one was across the goal one was at the goal however it was reminiscent in that it was the elite level it's your Ollie Watkins the kid who plays for Bournemouth you know where the balls go it's a lot of different galaxies a lot of the clothes his eyes rallying him buried it twice that Harry Kane mother done that but I'm saying the next level down from that it's one, two, three steps you already know by the second step what you're going to do with it you don't need to look at the keeper no more it's now about position timing and contact that goes in and it's one neither of those two chances neither of those two chances hit the goal that's the better body the one with Tom it's almost like a cross but the difference is because they score their second goal with the same move Wang does put it across because you can see the runner Tom shooting no because he knows there's no runner the goal keeper leaves big if you look at it if Ned's not aged off today we'd have the still on but there's a huge bit of the goal at the near post where he could just smack it in near post but Sa's already fallen before Tom's got to the ball so what Tom literally has to do is just clip it and it goes on and on and he doesn't hit it again like he did the other night with his heel it ends up going out for almost the throw and it's like they're the moments and maybe if Tom and Nick had scored two in his last two he'd have wrapped it in and it's one and then we grow then because it's like we haven't started well but we're back in it but at that moment in the ground was that because we had started poorly but when it missed it you think that was that a big moment or was there still a belief we'd get back in it was a bit it was just a bit we couldn't get out of our own arm so basically that was the first time we'd done it that was the chance, that was the opportunity if you had looked to see the stats Armett Field did not pass forward maybe five times each in the whole game and the three of them when Gomez come on Gomez and James Gomez we started at least the game was gone by then but we looked a lot more friend and money we looked better we looked a little bit more be able to absorb pressure and exert pressure we looked a lot fresher once he missed that chance I was saying to these it was now 2-0 as you said he broke it now 2-0 if you wait till it's 3-0 you can bring it on the cavalry if you want you can bring 50 something lad behind us said I wonder if we could bring three subs and sneak for you know like that wouldn't make a blind but a difference today boys wouldn't make a blind but a difference so what I'm saying is that going back to your point about Carvert Lewin is he was isolated he was a thankless task what he was asked to do all day however if you're going to be in that position 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20 then the Premier League if you don't score at least a quarter of those chances you're going to be in those positions when it comes to the knife fight from east there onwards and that's when the panic start every year we get to the end of it saying never again we'll finish mid-table happily finish mid-table well that's how you end up there I'll also throw another one at you I'm not calling them out cos I don't blame them for what he's done but the last five minutes I've taught them last week Dan Newman has three efforts at goal I know he wants to score if he slides you want to score Dominic Calver-Lunes on a penalty spot betters on a fire post and the kids like to score every one of them cos he wants to make a statement for themselves if I was on loan I'd probably want to do it myself but this is a team game and this is those incidents if we'd have worked out a day with the points how we started in that game having lost Garnagay Gomez was like a shot in the arm booster what no one saw coming that could have carried us on into the new year we got a little break the mindset aspect of it was massive and he didn't try to score and we missed him well that was on the back of Fulham which is then leading on to the Wolves thing where the tactics were wrong we had one arm up our back but the missing your big chance in the first half just it was time to much to say that to be honest with you it was with me like we were getting to 90 minutes and it was like he said it would do us 9 minutes and everyone around said we could bear all night and we could play for another hour because it just didn't look like we were going to score at half time on down a lot somehow evident but like McNeill got up for being slangled again which is massive that was a practice in the early weeks unbelievable sign David next week and see how you get on it was us if we had that card cos there's definitely like conspiracy things but the more the more and more you see it they're trying to make sure they're trying to make a statement with us this season you've been at spares last week and don't know whether you know cos they're in the ground but obviously when you're watching it you see everything and it's 100% penalty it does the same thing it's just the same thing and it's like I'm going to say I think it's that inconsistency of the officiating of some of the games and we've seen it cos you go to much of UC cos you go to games all all the time and it's just that inconsistency across which is really as a football fan who's been going for many many years it's really disappointing that there's that level of incompetence and inconsistency in what is supposedly the best league in the world isn't it? The best height league in the world The best height league in the world Be sure to deal tonight with City Slam's thingy about 10 minutes after a ball it's just nothing We do it, we do it thing the same tackle it's a book on the media Go to the Man United penalty day got the other week there's no I'll still take you back to one of the first ones we ever had Michael Keane at Brighton they had five minutes to look at it still I'm like I'm done keep it, keep holding it I'm done with it I was a big thing for I'll be honest I thought I stupidly thought they won't be able to be that blaze in any word it's almost not like they're doing what they're doing playing it's not the technology it's the people interested it's like the city fan the other night against us the referee gives a corner the lines went 50 because six city players jumping it's a pen now in the ground it's a pen but when it's the more I watch it the less of a pen it is because if you're blocking a ball you can't jump to a ball like this he's blocking his face I'm sorry I've got to say that once you take the intentional stroke deliberate out of that real book everything's a penalty so now we're itch I agree with you if the rule I've said for ages but I've said for ages the easiest way then then we all know and we all go doesn't matter whether he meant it but the rule isn't that the rule is it's deliberate handball is the rule and you get the skeleton on sky trying to hide behind because he was an awful referee for years going it's a modern day penalty why the fuck does that mean no mate because it's a modern day penalty when we're dragged to the floor that's just nonsense how can you have a modern day penalty that's nonsense it don't matter like Michael Keynes at Anfield putting his hand out of the book deliberate handball used to be in that you were seeking an advantage that's what the the influence, the implication from that sentence was supposed to be was that you were trying it like Rodry last year he was trying attempting to seek an advantage well on Alice body position you do not seek to keep an advantage by doing that because that's what you try to protect your face you were years ago the reason my handball was brought in and no rules change of course they do everything my handball was brought in was the difference the goalkeeper from players that's why it was brought in so if you're a goal and you can catch it but I can't knock on the hand that's why it's brought in you've messed with it now you've got the situation where they're just looking and slowing everything down and going that ball was going wherever it wasn't going in the goal he's given a penalty for this that's the penalty that's a block of jumping you can't jump through the air there's no player can put themselves in that ball if that's the case every time there's a corner and someone leans on someone else you've got to start giving them for that as well because it's tantamount to the same thing why didn't VAR look at the Trotnam thing when I'm not in the shade getting ragged on the feed I'm watching the commentator is like that's a penalty isn't it you were interested in the brightness but anyway that speaks to Jerry Mandarin and an agenda this is what I'm stating a non-involved person an independent person from a third nation in and said no context tell me what you think that is there look at the first case, look at the second case give me your opinion on it both are a penalty or neither are a penalty maybe even during the matches stop calling it stop calling it the official and the person's name you know, such and such is now going to look at it it's not the technology it's the people I knew on the Friday when I've seen you do VAR whilst we'd have an issue to mess because Michael Oliver who's got a full agenda with a full agenda against that absolutely that's not good enough if you're going to introduce technology it has to be to the benefit of the greater good of the actual game itself the wide game we didn't even talk about the goal mess thing the file for Dominic Alderley that goal might have set down on a different path when you look at it in real time there was no file because the lines weren't looking at it and the referees were looking at it they didn't let it go I see in the show again I'm watching on the show, it's showy so all the players are protesting at it so I said to I went that's a file do you know why? because they slow it down and it taps them but the reality is that isn't context if I go like that's a key that's not context the referee seeing the context of it real time until it becomes net ball and you can't actually touch anyone you've got to be some sort of element of physical contact that file had gone on in that game five times it had gone on in that game but because we scored a goal from it I'll say this if they just scored a goal from it it doesn't get given so what I'm saying is it's the inconsistency of it it's literally all I know in the ground is how long it takes and as soon as you've ran over to the thing I looked at it and said it never go over and changed it's garbage but I must stress that isn't the reason why we lost yesterday the referee wasn't very good yet but it's symptomatic in that we're scrapping for everything and that was a what then players have magnificent on the day that's an easy ground to lie down and die at Tottenham so that one must be fair they use their stadium in a similar way to Forrest they've got an ammo and they apply it and it's been relatively successful for them under a various couple of managers now very good so they're getting the maximum reward for the limited squad and system they've got next to there half-time you're expecting us to change the way because we got to half-time neither team had really done much to be fair but they would look the better side and they were winning I was expecting them to take Michael Geyn off and go to a flat back four maybe get Gomez on try to get a bit of control we both said like get Gomez on and better on we were just saying that what made me not do though is because at half-time I said all seven subs are running up and down so if they weren't they'd be in there getting the tactic and I remember saying to him no one's coming on here so we're just starting again and we come out and it was the same they were all over us they get the second goal Michael Geyn's got to do better what a swang run off on and they did Cofsky and Patterson daily with Cunhaire in the middle should have sheen him off he was behind them too when that ball came across and you get to edit them daily poor and matru nildan sometimes him and Clark Cofsky the one where he pushes out and tries to win the ball and the kids are saying and runs through he's badly slow so sometimes stop that don't do that it looks great if you do do it and we can break so he's got to have someone around him who he can give the ball to to try and go forward with it and he commits to that thing and they seen it coming they literally saw it coming from the next post goal and just turned them on this is one of the things we're going to have to address every time we've lost the first goal of season we've lost the game we've lost, we're sitting here on New Year's Eve we've lost 50% of our games and that's a lot from 2020 but we shoot ourselves in the foot we're two nildan then that's the moment to change it that bit about I think we were lucky to be two nildan no we were we could have come out two goals, two goals we were lucky to come away that bit about the drawing games you walk out in a tunnel I was tall when I was a kid you walk out in a tunnel and you've got a point so before you go and try and win the game make sure you don't lose it that's how you get forward and you build on that we don't we are either one it's a juxtaposition of either success or failure there's got to be a middle ground and if you look at the teams who invariably survive in this league they get a lot of draws particularly away from home better teams and find a way that's been I've been impressed by Dice I did not want him anywhere near my football club I'll say that with my hands up but he has been impressed at the organisation, the fitness and the system that on paper we have not got the best squad at all we have not been very thin so I've been impressed to say he's got a lot of heart of them but I also thought at Bainley that was kind of his methodology was there getting a point thing digging yourself out of an old thing that was I weren't watching Bainley very closely I'll have to say that but I assumed from the general chatter around him that was kind of because he wasn't ripping up trees he wasn't going away winning trees and pores so with the ads recognition to be clashed with jobs like ours so I thought that was a given I thought that came with it with yesterday then was it just a case of no Ashley Young, no Garnag Day no Adelaide Fore and a bad day at the office and also tiredness maybe we had played Wolves in a game where we've had one game a week away and we might have been close it might have been we think about the spares in the city games we put a shift in both them games we put a shift in the other players and it's the same players going out there's no kind of relief form there's a lot of games to come but it's still the yesterday then just gone like full tiach arall sy'n gion nach we've seen today Dwight McNeill's partners put something on he's obviously been ill he's doing so but Dwight McNeill hasn't looked a shame the last few games and no bleeding wonder so I'm sure the manager maybe have just gone yesterday I'm starting with Anna Tanjume I'm starting with Anna Tanjume you know what I mean this is what we're doing because these lads are kind and what we'll do is Dwight McNeill after 50 minutes whoever after 50 minutes we'll put these on for some fresh legs lads go and do what you said before get out there sit make it difficult for these to play just grind out the first half as he likes to call it the feel of it let's get in at that time let the Lord if we get a chance plan to take it obviously but not in silly and then fresh in it this is the most Premier League games he's ever played most James Garn has ever played in the season Premier League O'n Anna's still young and Nathan Paterson I'm not saying Coleman should have started but maybe rather than rip the formation up going fresh in the team because we are this was always going to be a heavy month and we've shed on the channel coming into it do well to get 89 points this month we've got 12 ok the last three have been horrible but you're right we could have got you know Dan's humour's a midge he's caught away from getting us a point in the space it's the goalie on it he's unlucky on two of them he lit his head up on the other side don't equalise us against city who knows with 15 minutes left who knows until they scored they were very impressed and Fouldin's musted he can always do that always do that and then yesterday if Dom levels it up at 1 do you know also to that is another point Gomez has been like a free hit no-one expected them to play for Evan again he came on a top and looked like the player from three years ago even yesterday and Man City as well he wasn't bad midweek 20 minutes or whatever it was he looked our most effective midfielder so we got that for nothing no-one that just literally dropped in your lap that wasn't in the plan so I think that's symptomatic to the fact that I'm going to go to Palace next week but I think he might do and he's not the type to do that he would normally play his best side we've got a week off next week that's why I think he will play his best team I think he might just say I might do what you said and then Jimmy did our Aston Villa in the other cup game for the first half and then rolled the subs on with your better players to get it over the line because otherwise it's like an elastic band you can stretch it so far but it might break and we've already got Garnagay going to the African Nations and if one of those Spine players does get it we're now in trouble for Aston Villa because we haven't even got full of them away what would you do with Decore because obviously I know to go on day by day and I know he was close on Saturday I'd give him half an hour at Palace I was going to say would you just leave him for Villa and go because I know by the time Villa rock up you're ready to go but I think him himself it's been a few weeks now I do believe you'll see you want to win if you can possibly win but it's more important that we don't start losing league games because the problem with now right now is the other teams are starting to win games where they went but we're in a fight with Luton now at the moment absolutely not in a forest too as well no we'll catch them what I mean is right now for me the way I'm looking at it in my mind is it's us and Luton there needs to have you now there needs to have you now I think Luton even though we still think teams will beat them you've got to match them physically and they've got a decent winger and a decent centre forward and Barclays being playing I think Towns are more important than Barclays I keep saying that because he was always decent everywhere he's been he's a grafter and he's got a little goal in him now but I still think we're better than them we have to fight like that and the important point is that we absolutely want to win a trophy if we can possibly do it but the first thing is don't set fire to the house we're going down here and we've got to be in this league no matter what happens we've got to be in this league so I think that's going to be his focus his primary focus so I think he might give as long as he says it's fine but I need a little 30 minutes in my legs I think he will give him a half an hour just like he did at Villa in the league cup game and brought him on last 20 I think there might be that and then start against Aston Villa because if we don't beat Palace we've got another week off in the interim before we go to Fulham I believe as well we've only got one home game in January you've got Filler on the 14th Fulham on the 3rd and then there's an FA cup game so we might do that and I would also if you're going to have Dan Jumer in the squad he did play him at Doncaster and he did play him at Villa as well in the away cup size he needs to play he might not start him but he needs to have a decent shout otherwise there's no point in him being in the short he's going to go back I didn't think you were able to do that but you can cancel it if the ball goes open to it but then that'll three off I think you might see Robin and he has done this in the other game because he was playing Ashley Younger I think you might see the opposite of that I think Ashley Younger will come back in he might be back till Villa but Seamus has only just come on yesterday he looked I wish he was 25 but he looked he's such looked a bit off yesterday that's why that's why but he would have been magnificent to have the way you've used Young this season if it had been Coleman he was fit he wouldn't have got to send off with the other fella and Michael Enco dealt with Salah as good as I've seen any haven't played he's been fantastic so I think those breaks and the minimal amount of games whereas this has been like a cram concertina effect of the previous month I think that will help us that will assist us and the Calvert Llewyn thing about listen let's work on calmness the last three steps before you address anything within the penalty box let's just review that and let's spend a week, ten days, four nights let's just nail that down and both of them in fact let's nail that down because let's be honest we need him on a run day and let's work on a little spin the coin and let's have every day or every other day let's have 20 minutes at the end of each session where the two years are playing together and let's just see if we can spark something let's just remember when when she got it in 85 and he looked at Andy Graham that's never going to work because you both want to play the same position blah blah blah oh no look at us now 15, Andy doesn't play until the autumn and we romp everything because you can actually do it if you put the work in I ain't saying that these are in that level they are definitely not at that level but he done it with Chris Wood and Ashley Barn exactly, precisely so I think that if it was me and I was in charge but if it was that's what I'd be looking at because it gives us something like what you said before about the other crowd where they've literally got that many strikers they can play three and just adapt something at the end of it and we haven't got that once we bring our first two subs on we basically know what that did so we need a little bit a little soup son of something else you know what I mean now we do is it important to remember even, obviously do you like to fuck Christmas up let's be honest you get to Christmas and go we're going to ruin a bit for you now because we're going to lose games but is it important to remember we've won eight Premier League games this season we've gone into the second half I think it's important to to remember that we've all witnessed this team can play and without the points deduction we wouldn't be having the types of conversations we're having now so the points deduction has made a significant impact on it impact on it and I'm sure it's probably in the players minds as well but you know the last the last kind of two months we've been playing some great football you know we've been within the constraints that we've got we've been better away from home away from home than we've been but you know they have been performing hopefully we've just hit a bit of a rut and the break that's coming up may give us the chance to get our first 13 back click on again 100% because we don't have what the cities have got what Liverpool have got where they've got three or four players for every position in some places of these teams a whale class and that's the difference apart from forest forest movement they just turned it around again themselves but it gives them options options but change it's happened though over the last couple of seasons we've always said that last season we haven't got much past half past 11 we've been saying that for the last couple of seasons and we really haven't and I think it's that type of thing that the club needs to approach really it's like what do we have to bring in if it does get injured or if McNeill gets injured or who we've got to kind of bring in the goalkeeper and that's I think hopefully get through Thursday get a win out of it and look to to use the break that's coming up to refresh the players you know I think as well with the maximum use of your own assets and therefore like I said about the better thing but also if you're going to keep Dan Duma by end of the hole for Dan Duma don't just have we've had the loans evidently used in the last even before Angelotti got here it's honest to God there's too many people at this football club there's too many coming and going you literally should lose your job but bringing people in on loan you literally do as much as us three here you've got as much and you're taking bit money from a club what's just been penalised for overspending it's counterintuitive as well it is it makes zero sense in fact it makes opposite of Dan's sense the complete opposite of sense so that if you're going to have them find a role for them if there isn't a role for them adapt your system so you can bring them on where you can make a floating role maybe if you can't play a 10 play a body in midfield and look to go behind Ducordi if Ducordi goes at the second let him go to third and just roll your sleeves up a bit of pace at least get every last drop out of that bottle you see what I'm saying to you that's what I'd say to them this is a marathon not a sprint and he just said maybe if it's a bit of a wall that will happen in a marathon you've got to get your head right know when that happens and go to your reserves of strength and of commitment and desire and mindset that's going to be crucial because honest to God if you thought last season's relegation battle was bad and the one before that this ground on the horizon brings a whole new level of jeopardy what the other teams in this struggle have not got that sort of Damocles hanging over their head it's only us so that brings an added pressure so you need to see that coming and have some sort of some sort of plan in place that if the roof does fall in we're going to do this and it speaks to the players that he's got a plan it is bad but he's thought about it we're not just getting in trying to figure it out on the roof and it looks like you're clueless and that's when you lose the dressing room it's got to be we go into this new year with clear ambition certainly, definitely ambition but also a pragmatism an element of ok it could work out this way I looked at our fixes through March and April and there's four or five winnable games but we might be in the bottom three by then so if we are I don't want to be but we may be because look where we are now we might get points back as well that's another thing we haven't discussed that might also happen but you've got to have it in your locker and say if it gets to a night fight well we're ready we've already got this and what we'll do is we'll tinker with this we'll go three up front for the last 20 minutes and losing the game is losing the game you may as well lose a 3-0 as 2-0 and then goal differences of all the teams Forrest and the team below us and not going to touch us they're not going to score enough goals so write that off so you may as well lose four as lose 2-0 throw an extra striker on and go three at the back but actually one of your fullbacks is a winger now do you see what I'm saying if you have to take out I don't know I'm thinking outside but I would have it and I would have three, four maybe even five of those up my sleeve to say because teams who were playing will say these are terrified you've got that new ground you've lost points you've gone back towards the pack to be able to take it back to them put it back on the tone the 16 games to go we won eight already if we win another eight we're safe now and out that's it don't get me wrong it's a big ask when you win you're a we'd be 11th if it wasn't for that and we'd be looking going we'll win eight in the second after she's won it's the same team it's just not necessarily because if you're adding three or four of those draws you need to actually win eight you'd win six, five or six of them and that's far more doable to be honest so it's incremental progress we all have ever won seven games and lost all the rest which would be crazy but we did we've got 37 points I don't believe in any universe looping of getting 37 I don't think I really don't know so therefore that's what we have to look at we've got to go 18 games, seven wins that's what we have to do we can easily win seven games we've got Sheffield united at home we've got Burnley at home looping away will be tough but so what there's those kind of teams fall them away we should be going to luck be old then borm it away will be a tough one but it's a bit there's a lot teams like the Wales we could beat them to if we played a month a month earlier we would have despatched them two weeks earlier the problem was the availability on the night he went long ball and we hadn't been going long ball he adapted it I kind of understand it I've got over it now I had a cob on at the time I've let it go because it's the bigger picture like I said before to me not everyone will agree please don't be getting on the comments about it but to me everything is about that ground and the detention of a Premier League place because all these kids well everyone said we wanted to win some if you think these party about us not winning trophy wait till you see what happens if we go down and that grounds there it'll be like the jubilee and New Year's Eve and we're on New Year's Eve all at the same time we've got to remove that from the equation as hard as that is to say by the way and I don't enjoy saying it but that's got to be the first priority so let's do that and then from then new owners whoever they may be and then you can sell the dream you can sell it to young ones you can sell it and that's the positive it's minimal positivity by the way and it's not nice to having to say that again and repeat myself but it's better than the alternative and the alternative is literally the bitter end so let's not even entertain that thought and get the maximum out of the squad the maximum out of the coaching team them upstairs have got to start shaking their leg what you said before about the low market horses for courses square pegs for square holes no El Gazi's not El Gazi definitely not El Gazi but just Cuckoo left field choices again Dan Duma if you're going to keep them and I'm not mind keeping them find something for them to do find a role for them to do find to be useful but the next one has got to be fit for papers even if it's in a single system if you can only play 4, 3, 5, 1 or whatever it is if you can only do that if you might have a chance well I'm saying to you he's got to be ready to fit in on a given day and not just say oh well we'll give him 5 because he won't have to 5 games for him to be able to get up to speed let's leave it there let's have a look at the stats because we were talking about Wolves' evidence so here's the stats from the game Wolves 3-0 12 shots to 10 for Wolves 6 on target for Wolves non for evidence 0 for evidence and the problem was we had too much possession we don't like possession ah sweet spots like between 36 and 40 is that a win spot that's a missed home shots 10 shots on target none if I went home when I was a kid and said to my dad how many shots you'd have to take 10 how many were on target none so he'd say so you had none that's what he'd say you know the goals means the target the match was the one where Dwight McNeill smashes the post from 25 that was on target that's kind of target it's a frame but a couple of inches and it would have been more well he can do that for us it's also what we were saying in the ground yesterday and what we discussed today there's only two between 10 obviously you know your maths is 10 two different types of shots but they get like five goals really hard and we got none so the finishing was completely off just thank god both goals were special the one we had picked but just passed five minutes later I screamed he said it was this loud he did I swear it I was screaming I was still screaming you he was still shouting I was screaming it's me now it's over let's leave it there listen big thanks to Dave and Keith I need to just say well the big news big news we've got a single out in February the first it's called let the music it's out on the back of the single which got a radio to playlist which did really really well so if you're into our music or if you want to hear what we like well it means check out our new record apparently it's really good it's really good the fan that is I'd like to say Aia Tymigrando to Australia, Coco Jean love you baby and Happy New Year let's hope 24 brings us a much happier and calmer year than what we've had in 2023 it didn't begin great with that 4-1 home the feat by Brighton and it ended with a 3 no the feat at all the bookends of the year were great but it is hoping 2024 is much better and Premier League give us our points back 100% do it right now I'll do it now Thanks for watching see you later