 and welcome all to another excellent edition of a market update at 2 p.m. with me David White here at TFNN. So what do we have going on right now? Well, we're down, say, what is it, 17? Let's get it right here. 17 and a half points on the S&P cash. Dow's down 37 points. Nasdaq's down 68. And we've had a real bull battle, bear battle today. It seems like once we get down somewhere around the 395 on the spies, selling dries up. Above that level, we have massive amounts of short selling. So we'll see it's a little bit of a trench warfare today as we go through it. We're waiting for earnings out after the bell for a handful of stocks. I don't know if they're going to move the market that much, but we do have a few. Probably the biggest one is Salesforce. And of course, a lot of news about activists getting involved in that. I have my own opinions on it, but they bought Slack and that's become a disaster for them. They've done some other stuff. They certainly have thrown a lot of money at ads trying to keep the stock price up, but giving away a bunch of board seats. My guess is that the current CEO, the only reason he's been there for so long is he had a couple of friends at CNBC and they always tried to make him look good no matter what was going on, especially over the last couple of years when everybody did extremely well in the cloud services. And they didn't do much of anything. I think there is a problem with their business model, but a bigger problem with their CEO. And the board seats are probably the first step at getting rid of any off. And you know, when you look at it, it's just hard for me not to think that Kramer giving them a lot of softballs over the last five, six, seven years has been the only reason why he's still hang on for a few minutes and back with the really big stuff. The reality is that navigating financial markets can