 Hello and welcome to MIPTV and with me as always is Bob Cook from the Manchester Institute for Psychotherapy complete with Davros the Dalek behind him to help us with one of our book reviews and this book review is book review 16 isn't it Bob? Correct yes it certainly is. Yeah and this book is relational TA principles and practice. Quite interesting and from what I've heard from you in the preamble quite an important book in the history of TA. Yes in 2008 the 700th book on relational transaction analysis came out by Lina Hargedon and Charlotte. This book followed 2011 edited by Charlotte Seales and Heather Fowley and they bring together 15 or 16 of their contemporary colleagues who take a chapter each to talk about the principles of relational transaction analysis as they see it. Yeah and as I say it's sometimes called a relational turn isn't it in TA where that research that came from North Cross which was some research about the quality of the relationship being the arbiter of a successful outcome really kind of put TA on a different path isn't it? Yeah I suppose what we had North Cross was a researcher not particularly in TA but he and his colleagues researched and dialogue with many clients I don't know how many over a thousand and they found in this research that the relationship was the curative factor not the approach. Yeah. They would argue they didn't matter whether it was a gestaltist, an existentialist, a person-centered therapist that the relationship is pure you know the relationship is figure. That was late beginning the century early 1990s that decade and you had that phrase the relational turn because many of the different psychotherapy disciplines followed that research really and TA is no different. They were a bit later they started to explore the whole idea of the relational TA in 2002 and then they produced and I say they I mean hard to go to sales in 2008 this seminal book which won the Eric Burnman Award called Relationship TA and then this book I'm talking about here edited by Charles Sills and Heather Fowley really get their colleagues together from the relational school in TA to talk about different aspects different principles of their approach. Yeah and I get the sense of this book it's the important book because it kind of catalogues the turn and the theory behind the turn and more to the point how it's applied relationally. Yes. Because this is very different because if you sort of chart the other schools so if you chart Burn earlier you know late 60s if you like following with Catechsa School, Jackie Schiff following with the Redecision School with the Gouldings going up to the Integrative School with Richard Erskine in the late 1980s and then you know we have the move really to the relational school and reworking the transfers in the here and now so the methods are very different and the focus on the relationship and the transfers and reworking in the present really hallmarks the relational school of transaction analysis in the modern century. Yeah and when you talk about reworking the transference do you want to give us an example of that Bob? Yeah so classic transference, parent-child transference so Clare walks in the room and says gosh when you look at me like that I feel like I am three years old again being told off by you and I feel really young so the sort of classical way of working that in transaction analysis would be often to use the regression to go back to look at the deficits to explore the relationship of the parent and the younger child and what was missing back in the different time zone and the aim would be about looking at deficits and helping the person transform their defences in a different way however you go back in time yes well as to the relational school 2008 about the present time and actually reworking the transference then so what would happen there would be the therapist would say oh I'm actually not your mother though I hear you feel that I am and you have feelings about this actually I'm not let's look at what we can do in the relationship where there could be some sort of change here in the relationship in the moment so instead of staying in the here and now isn't it as opposed to going back to the there and then so very much a kind of here and now approach that's a really good example of the change so the book is relational TA it was published in 2011 a recent book by Heather Crowley and Charlotte Stills Heather Crowley and Charlotte Stills so it's relational transaction analysis principles in practice by Heather Crowley and Charlotte Stills and as I said they put together at least it's quite a big book really it's about 400 pages 16 of their contemporary colleagues talking about all the different principles of relational transaction analysis at a stem from 2008 yeah so an important book I would imagine for a student and also for someone who is practising practitioner maybe who didn't do didn't do that school who's taught a different skill to catch up on the latest ideas yeah and this school isn't easy for a therapist to master because you have to know yourself very well you need quite a lot of therapy you need to know your own kind of transparency you need to know what's being invoked in terms of in the moment because you're going to be using present time and you're going to be sharing a lot of yourself because the relationship between the therapist and client is key here yeah and that will come across I would imagine in the book as always Bob isn't doing this as a sponsorship it's not a paid review Bob's just sharing his love of literature for the audience and we will put a picture of the book and title of the book at the end of this video and a link in the description bar below so that people if they want to inspect it or get a copy and click on and they can go and find it so as always Bob Cook thank you very much thank you