 I think we have done a really phenomenal job of convincing our institutions that IT's role is to keep the lights on, right, that for a long time that's how we got resources for different infrastructure needs and the technical aspects were kind of the leading that led the conversation for us. And I think we are more and more realizing that we've been too successful, right, and that now the institution is increasingly understanding that there are more academic focus needs or more business focus needs that they don't really perceive IT as being a partner in helping that happen and now with the evolution of cloud services and alternative sourcing strategies, how many mark how many times have I read marketing material that starts off saying you don't have to go to IT, right, we can do this directly with you, IT doesn't really have to be involved, you know, nine times out of ten that tends not to be true but the fact that it's a selling point to me has been one of those demonstrations of how successful we have been in the past of convincing our institution and ourselves that these are our roles and we're not really the partners in these other areas. So what occupies my headspace a lot is thinking about how do I do that better, how can I also infuse that in my organization and how do we prepare those next generations of leaders. I still smile when I say that phrase, right, because I still think of myself as one of those young leaders, right, though the gray on my beard starts to say otherwise.