 What is cracklating everybody welcome on into the heat check fantasy podcast powered by Number fire that's right here on the fan dual podcast network and number fire commas today We're heading right on back to Weirfield Village for the second consecutive event at this course this time It is the memorial tournament and it is a loaded field with Bryson D. Shambo Tiger Woods Justin Thomas some guy in Rory McRoy should be a pretty fun event for DFS as well My name is Jim Sonis. I am a senior writer and analyst for number fire comm joined here as always by Brandon Gadoula He is the managing editor for it number fire Brandon This is our final Podcast together for like a decade because I go on vacation first and then you go on vacation So this is I'm already feeling like a separation anxiety. How you doing? Well, I mean it'll be nice probably ecstatic to boot me out of here for next week Well, look, it'll it'll be nice. I Won't have to like deal with Jim's criticism of my clapping before the show I guess I guess we have to clap to sync up the audio and video or something Yeah, and like I asked I specifically asked Brandon to clap Well because he gives these like weak claps that like barely register on my audio app and It's just kind of like it makes me like tense when you don't clap Well, so I specifically asked you to clap. Well, and then you blatantly disregard my my command and you're like no Cal our video producer compared it to two knees clapping, which I think is the most accurate description. He possibly could have given It's terrible Like I mean like you should put that on my tubes down that I couldn't clap I mean, I'm not gonna care like my hair when I do that my hands thing So I think it might be I think it might be the mic Because I clap pretty hard. No, that's maybe you it's you operator error. It's terrible I am sad that I won't be able to like Push Amelia on a grillo on you Against your will for the next couple of weeks like that that makes me sad personally, but yeah I mean, I was right. I was feeling sad and then You just made fun of me for the claps for the just in a row Ably, you know what maybe it's good, but yeah funny you should clap better I'm just gonna like get some sort of device that I can just like make a noise with me clappers Yeah, maybe I'll get one those like things that you bring to like baseball saved and you like swing them together And they clap for you As a person they are a dream come true because I don't want to I don't want to clap myself as a way too much effort Those were a dream come true back when you could go to places with other people but like I Think I need to get you one of those. Yeah, maybe but I mean it is gonna be strange Breaking down some of these fields, you know solo. It's always good to get some of my checks You know Out there and have you tell me why they're not like walking Neiman this week abandoned ship Jim is using sung jam trying to buy low again abandoned ship like it's like, you know, it is a good check I agree. Although, you know to be fair when Collin more cow has started off hot last week I was like, this is the most obvious thing ever. We know how good more cow is with the irons He might be the best iron player in the world right now And I was talking don't put a lot of stock into these recent samples trust the longer term Collin more cow is sitting there. It just Didn't really think about him enough. Yeah, so That's not you got off your collar more cow Bunga Tweet after he won so we got that out of the way But now we're going back to Weerfield yet again We're gonna talk about that in a second But also I should mention even though I am on vacation this next week and then Brandon's on vacation at that We're still gonna have a pj podcast every week. It will just be different couple solo pods in there Brandon's gonna call in from Basically like Russia. I don't know wherever you're gonna be hood. Maybe Mount Rainier at that point. I don't know. I have no idea. Anyway, you're gonna be somewhere You're gonna call in and we're gonna talk golf So you'll still get your takes off But we'll still have a pga podcast every week Tuesday here on the number fired daily fantasy podcast feed So make sure you're subscribed to that different format because it might be some solo shows But we'll still get you your content here in the same feed NASCAR podcast for the all-star race, which is when in Wednesday night is already posted and then a podcast for Texas Which is on Sunday will go up Thursday. It's already been recorded. So sorry I kind of had to get it out beforehand But all those things are available in the number fired daily fantasy podcast feed So make sure you are subscribed so you can hear Brandon and I bicker Once we get back to that in the very near future, but first let's talk about the memorial Which is this weekend again at Weirfield Village Golf Club. It is 7392 yards. It is a par 72 and the big saving grace I would say is that it is finally a smaller field. It's down to 135 golfers instead of 155 That's the good thing. The bad is that the 135 golfers here are all really good. That's scary So although a higher percentage of golfers make the cut. It's still gonna be tough So Brandon when you look at this course, what are you focusing on statistically and were there any big takeaways from last week? Yeah, so I mean the difference in 20 players takes the cut from about 42% to 48% of the guys making it which is still Not half That's problematic. I think if anything Yes, more golfers will make the cut so you can think that you can take more chances But really more of your opponents lineups are gonna have six of six make the cut probably not substantially so because it's still very difficult but It is still very very important to try to roster golfers who have Realistic odds to make the cut and not punt too often. So I'm keeping that in the front of my mind Last week at this course according to data golf comm 41% of the scoring is explained by approach Which is obviously the most of any of the four strokes gain categories. I mean 40% when there's only four options It's gonna be number one 32% came from putting Which is actually less than usual and just 11% of scoring was explained by stroking it off the tee I think that hurts a few golfers this week We can look at Bryson primarily for that although Bryson can club down He can hit he's been hitting fairways at about a field average rate Which is insane for how much distance he has but He can club down. So I don't think that that means don't play Bryson This week, but with how thick the rough got last week and it's going to continue to grow We need accuracy off the tee We need iron play to be pretty nice pretty pristine We can't really have golfers getting into a lot of trouble. So I'm keeping my key stats pretty much the same as I had last Week because I mean t-degree and performance Based on approach is just the most predictive way to play DFS golf So I'm stick with stroking approach driving accuracy stroking around the green just to get out of trouble Bent grass putting and birdie rate. Yeah, so last week we were different because you were looking at accuracy Whereas I was looking at distance. I am changing this week not to accuracy But to stroke scene off the tee despite the fact that didn't count for a lot of the scoring last week The golfers who did well were golfers who were good off the tee coming into the event If you look at the top 20 golfers from last week and look at where they ranked on Fantasy national and various off-the-tea categories entering the event the median rank for those top 20 golfers in distance was 60th The meeting ranked for accuracy was 79th meeting ranked for good driver It was 58th and meeting ranked for stroking off the tee was 40th. So Stroking off the tee was easily the best Off-the-tea stat which makes sense because it's just trying to gauge those things So I did go stroking off the tee and then approach approach was actually a higher Median than off the tee I'm not saying that's more important obviously because approach is always gonna be more important But it kind of shows that golfers who ranked well in stroking off the tee entering the event Did really well during the event So I'm gonna go with stroking off the tee stroking approach scrambling once again given the weird nature of the the roughs and then bank grass putting so again slightly different Stat categories here, but like we still wound up on kind of the same guys last week So I'm not sure how much of a difference that'll wind up making at the end of the day Yeah, I mean I go through the player picks Your two high-priced studs were probably two of my first options So I think with it were not completely different and regarding stroking off the tee not being like overly important last week It it's usually around I think 15 to 16 percent of scoring because there's a lot more that goes into converting Your final score on a hole than what you did off the tee that being said this week in this field at Of course this difficult You need to gain strokes off the tee nobody's gonna win this by being like Decent yeah, or like bad off the tee So whatever it is I think you need basically your golfers to excel or not be terrible in all four categories And that takes out a lot of the value plays because they all do at least one thing poorly And that's why they're priced there and that's why they're not always in contention So except for Brian Harman You know I think contention always in contention man never missed a cut. Yeah, so I think that balance is the number one Way to approach this week. We talked about this for majors a lot too, but there is also more credence going balanced when When you are using golfers in the 10,000 range who are still like world-class golfers And that's the case this weekend because we've got Tiger Woods at 10-6 Maybe you're not into him, but you still have Brooks Kepke at 10-7 Zander Shafley at 10-8. Hideki is 10-9 So even like even when you are saving salary and going more balanced, you're still getting Disgustingly good golfers. So I am on board with you where I want to go a bit more balanced I love the upper 9,000 range this week. I think it is absurd how good that range is So I'm on the same page as you normally I push back on the balance approach I will not do that this week before we take a look at the the history here I'm where I feel Brandon I want to talk to you philosophically about how much stock you're putting into what we saw last week Because it's the first time we've seen a double-up event I think like 60 years or something Are you gonna move guys up a decent amount based on what they did last week? Or is this more so a spot where you may look to fade the golfers who blew up and try to buy low on some Golfers who maybe didn't show that well I think ultimately I'm not putting much stock into it because it's a two to four round sample for these guys And I've learned especially with this restart not to care too much I know that this is a special circumstance, but this is a very different field and these like you said at the top of the show These are like all of the best golfers in the world I don't think that there's any significant advantage from having played this Last week, and I don't think there's any significant disadvantage by not having played it so Realistically I don't I actually thought I was gonna come into this and say whoever wins is a fade But it's really hard to hate Colin more a cow based on what he does. It's not like he putted his way to a win I mean obviously he you know made that clutch putt, but we know that he's a great ball striker and an elite iron player So I was hoping to avoid The guys at the top of the leaderboard, but with Justin Thomas, Colin more cow Victor hoblin being so good tea to green I don't really see that maybe some like Ian polter who I actually recommended last week. He just putted a ton I'm fine. Like if we see those types of players and profiles someone who just putted a lot to get near the top I'm fine avoiding those but I would probably avoid those Anyway, just because he was you know boosted by putting I think the benefits of The golfers who did well last week is that they're surrounded by good names Like in general sure we would expect the public to gravitate towards Colin more a cow off a win But will they gravitate to him over John Rom who is 11 for I don't know So like I think it kind of goes to what you're saying because the big reason to fade a golfer who wins is under the assumption They'll be popular But I don't think that's necessarily a correct assumption to make for this weekend Given how good the field is so I think that I'm on board of you where I'm not bumping those guys up But I'm also not crossing them off because they did well this past weekend There's some golfers who I think may have underperformed a bit this past weekend who I Want to get at because I do think there's an advantage to having just seen this course But I think that people will see those finishes and maybe be not as not as into them I think that's that's an intriguing spot for me at least We'll talk about some golfers here in just a bit But first the stars are all out for this week's Memorial Tournament and Fan Duel has big contests to match it If you want a massive prize pool check out the PGA Eagle contest It is just nine dollars and ninety nine cents to enter with five hundred thousand dollars in total prizes and a One hundred thousand dollar first place prize if you want a more flat payout structure Which I know a lot of you do check out the PGA Stinger They're a three-dollar entry fee gets you a shot at one hundred thousand dollars in total prizes 10k to first top 20 finishers all get at least a hundred dollars not a bad ROI for a three-dollar entry So for more information go to fan duel.com or download the fan duel app Eligibility restrictions a plot Let's take a look at past history here at Muirfield and some of this will revolve around last week one golfer Who is not in the field this past week was Tiger Woods not sure if you heard of him But he's in the field this week. He is ten thousand six hundred dollars First time we've seen Tiger in a while while Brandon But wasn't that long ago that Tiger Woods was winning tournaments once again here on the PGA tour What do you think about what's here at ten six? It's a really reasonable price. I understand it because of the layoff But he's in the field for the first time in a long time Everyone's taking notice and of course Muirfield's been quite good to woods in the past 17 start tier five wins in the memorial never miss the cut since 2012 He's made five starts he won in 2012 was 65th in 2013 71st in 2015 23rd in 2018 and ninth last year in 2019 Despite two non-elite finishes in there. He's been pretty phenomenal statistically outside of that 2015 season when the form wasn't quite there overall He's gained at least four point nine approach strokes and four of the five starts at least 7.4 strokes t-degree and three of them when he finished 2013 or 2018 He led the field and strokes gained t-degree and but last 7.7 strokes putting which is not very typical, especially For someone as good as Tiger Woods with the butter. We just haven't seen a start from Tiger since The Genesis when he was 68th and that was back in mid-February when he lost eight strokes putting but like I Usually have been low on Tiger Don't think I'm there anymore. I think that whenever Tiger plays it's because he's healthy. He's focused He's committed and we have a lot of reason to believe that he will be for this event So how are you handling the main attraction this week? Yeah, I think I am okay taking a wait-and-see approach Because we have a lot of I know what you're saying is valid but we have a lot of unknowns with Tiger given the long layoff given the injuries and I think that that is is valid when we have so many good options around him and It's Tiger Woods You know, he's gonna be popular this week on FanDuel. So if we have unknowns combined with popularity I am very okay taking another route and going to Xander Shuffle a Xander's gotten a lot of buzz this week too So it's not like you're gonna get Xander at like, you know, 10% roster rate But he'll be lesser less popular than woods. I think we can say that pretty definitively So I'm kind of okay not going at Tiger this week. If it burns me it burns me. It's burned me in the past. Believe me It definitely has not using Tiger But I think for this week specifically given how many good options we have and how many uncertainties there are around Tiger I'm okay taking a more reserved approach and Watching him this week seeing how he does and then if I have to buy high I'll buy high But I think I'm okay taking a more low-key approach here. What about you? What are you doing Tiger Woods this weekend? I've seems like I like him much more than you do the the only problem is His draft percentage on FanDuel whenever we look at tournaments last week only eight golfers were drafted on at least 20% of lineups Patrick Cantlay at forty one point eight five percent was the only one above twenty eight percent So I think in a field like this. We're going to see pretty flat draft percentages across the board aside from maybe one or two golfers and Let's get one of those one or two. Yeah, so I Think one like what you have to do is figure out how you can differentiate if you play Tiger and I think this week probably more than a lot of weeks Because it's like a major you can differentiate very easily because we will understand Closer to lineup lock which of these studs is expected to just sort of fly under the radar even if it's look We don't play a lot of Brooks Kepke in DFS because you just never know what to expect I know Brooks Kepke has called. He's said he wants to be the casino or whatever run the table whatever it is That response to Bryson He he can win and if people aren't playing Brooks In a combination of Tiger and Brooks is automatically pretty much Like a contrarian way to play it. I'm not saying Brooks will be Under the radar, but we will find by Thursday morning, which golfers aren't getting enough buzz Tiger Brooks can be unique But Brooks Xander can be more unique if Xander is less popular than Tiger So I think that's why Justin has a tendency here Justin Rose Jason Day could be more unique than Tiger no, but like if we're talking about Like I prefer Xander over Tiger straight up. Do you yeah? Less popular than Tiger. Yeah, so why would I not just go Brooks Xander rather than Brooks Tiger? But you don't like Tiger as much as I do. I like Tiger plenty, but I'm okay avoiding him when I know he'll be on 45 percent of roster is that fair? I would say I said the over under at 43 and a half I'd go a little bit under. Okay, you the under all taking the over we're doing this is your first bed of the podcast Okay, well, I got the over on 43 and a half on Tiger Woods roster rate Let's say in the Eagle Contest the big the big $9.99 one Okay, I'll pull a link for you, but yeah, I think I think I'm gonna go over there I think he gets a 45 percent I Would be surprised, but I think that we have enough options where it might be closer to 40 Which is still crazy high. Okay, we shall see we I don't think we've done a roster rate bet in a while This is this is interesting. You sure bets are terrible. This one's kind of fun actually. Oh Boy, I forgot to check. I had Munoz over Grillo last week Munoz. I'll talk about him, but he missed the cut. So did Grillo Neither of them were Joel Damon, so hey Lisa's that let's move on to another golfer who has had an interesting history you won Yeah, I mean whatever I'm where I feel but that's Mark Leishman Mark Leishman is coming off and missed cuts at this exact same course this past week and he lost 1.7 strokes in approach So it wasn't good But I think he could fit the by-low approach for this week The big reasoning is that Leishman had good form prior to that He gained at least 3.3 strokes an approach in six of his previous eight measured events The approach play had been good and he also has good history on this course outside of the missed cut this past week He was fifth year last year. He was also fifth year in 2015 He had a top five in 20 or top 15 in 2016 and 2017 and Leishman's $9,500 it's a loaded range I think that Leishman is one of the golfers who makes that tier loaded to me And I think that he's pretty enticing if people are off of him due to the missed cut Brandon is Mark Leishman someone who stands out to you at $9,500 So I don't know if he stands out, but he doesn't necessarily take away from that range Obviously 10th and approach over the past 50 rounds, which you probably said but I didn't listen There you go. See no, you totally have me. You listened. Well the best list, okay? He leads the PGA tour. I think this season in stroke scan approach and he's like top 10 in Adjusted stroke scan approach according to data golf's performance table, which is a very good resource to check out So, I mean he's not just doing that in weak fields I think that Leishman Along with other names in this range just gives a lot of credence to a balanced lineup because This week we're getting golfers like Leishman, Sung-Jee, and you know in the mid 9,000s as opposed to Joel Damon at 9,300. I think that's that's the kind of difference we're looking at and I think that Leishman while I don't necessarily Put him at the forefront of my mind this week he's probably gonna be in my roster shoot because I can load up on a ton of Golfers in this range. I think he's third in this tier to me. So I don't want to overstate my interest But the only reason he's third is because the two guys ahead of him are like two of my favorite golfers in the entire field Paul Casey and Joachim Neiman. I think are just Dynamite plays someone to put Leishman third in this tier, but that's not a poor reflection of him It's a good reflection of how Disgusting this tier is on Vanduul. So Although Leishman over Sung-Jee. Yes, I do. I wouldn't go there. Okay. I think Sung-Jee's a better win bet than he is a DFS play I could see that Sung-Jee Leishman I like Matthew Fitzpatrick fine Paul Casey walking Neiman. I mean, that's five names right there I'd be fine with in my in a cash game lineup almost I am I want to dig deeper on Tony Fino at $9,800 not for a cash game, but for Tournaments you sent me like this Instagram video of Tony Fina like crushing like 383 Yeah, which is pretty fun and like if we're gonna get like angry Fina on angry Brooks trying to like come back on Bryce and I'm all here for it. Let's go. I already put in some some I Bet Tony Fina and like all the majors I Okay As soon as I saw that I was like Brandon's Instagram algorithm is undefeated Let's move to another guy. That's the exact same range is Matt Coucher Not exactly Tony Fina from a from a driving perspective, but he's $9,800 And we know the Coucher from an overall pure golf perspective is a good golfer So what are you viewing with Matt Coucher this week at $9,800? So, you know a lot of stars in the field we probably want some balance to get like four five potentially six big names as opposed to Two or three big names and some long shots So Coucher at $9,800 is in that salary range where he could fit a balanced build He can fit any build really depending on, you know, how exactly you go but since 2013 Coucher's made six or seven cuts at this event with a win and Six top 26 finishes overall did miss the cut here a year ago Was 39th year last week in a much less intimidating field. He was a negative in both ball striking stats off the tee and approach It's a four round sample. We don't put a whole lot of stock into that but Coucher speak to someone who's on a lot of Roster's at a pretty high rate. I feel like Coucher, Brant Snedeker and Tiger always get More love than they probably deserve. So I'm a little bit out on Coucher Even though I don't really play him a lot to begin with so Do you like Coucher you skip past them, what are you doing with him? So Coucher is $9,800 and a tier that I was just Slobbering all over but I have stroked me off the tee is one of my key stats He's 114th in the field in that out of again like 135 he's 84th in approach. So With my process he doesn't sniff anywhere near like what I want from my line ups and again It's loaded tier. So I kind of hope he's popular. I'm not sure if he will be given that Again, like we talked about it is a really good tier Which may just kind of like flatten everything out for everyone But I have no interest in him at all honestly And that's fine of me because like I again, I kind of hope he's popular He's not getting a lot of buzz on fan share right now, which I just checked. He's actually He's after 30 second and tied with him is Dustin Johnson who just dusted a field like a couple weeks ago. So My interest in Dustin Johnson is kind of like like I'm fully distracted up from that Coucher because I'm like Oh, I might be able to get DJ under the radar After he just obliterated he took a flamethrower to a course like a couple weeks ago So I've been distracted and I'm just gonna ignore Matt Coucher and obsess over Dustin Johnson instead Yeah, so DJ is 15 to 1 on Fandalsport spoke to win. I guess we're just hijacking this Coucher conversation for DJ but I don't I don't like the the win odds there but if we find out that Dustin Johnson is just kind of 10% owned yeah At 11-5 like he's the anti Sung Jae where I think he's more interesting in DFS than to win bet Where I think Sung Jae's a better win bet than a DFS play. I can get behind that All right Let's talk here about a value play and Roy Sabatini and Sabatini Doesn't fit the buy-low approach as far as golfers you were here last weekend He finished 17th, but the knowledge of this course could make Sabatini a value play at $8,900 The 17th place finished for Sabatini was his 13th time playing this course He's missed one cuts in the past 12 tries He has played here and he has a five top 20 finishes last week Specifically Sabatini gained 3.6 strokes in approach and that's good The counters that he also gained big time with his short game and that's generally hard to duplicate So I think Sabatini will be an option for me Brandon at $8,900, but that'll be more as a rotational piece Than anything else. I don't think he's a core play for me or a state bowl Does Sabatini do anything for you? I mean we've we've played a lot of Roy Sabatini for quite some time And the reason for that was because he was really good as a ball striker now Over a long sample. That's kind of not the case anymore. His iron play has been like okay and some of the past few events at the rocket mortgage it was terrible, but The the events that are really like boosted his approach play are kind of out of the sample that I really like to look at so He's kind of just a guy Who wears some interesting shirts? I don't really I don't really have Again, this is someone that we've played like week in week out. I just I don't really see it anymore I'm fine bowing out and I Might cap my head-to-head line-ups like I might I self-impose a salary floor at 9,000 unless I punt with one one pick which Gives me access to pretty much anything else I want to do is it Mooneos again. Yeah Predictable he was nine per round in strokes King T. De Green last week. He just makes rounds that you play Brandon To he why I think I have this that he was like 29th in the full field in strokes King T. De Green despite playing two rounds. Yeah So why do you play two rounds because he missed the cut? Because he doesn't always pot, but he's not he's not a terrible putter He's not he's not a Corey Connors guy where he's just spraying it and Corey Connors is 9,000 Like Corey Connors is not Sebastian Mooneos. Don't give me don't confuse that but like It's not Corey Connors. I know what you're saying. I'm just saying I'm just rubbing it in a little bit because I think it's fun personally Yeah, oh, yeah I've won three straight Bobble hats. I'm allowed to talk smack right We straight you definitely didn't win like eight straight earlier this year three straight and five of seven So I gotta I gotta figure something out. No, you really don't that's okay Let's take a look at some current form here actually before we do that. I should mention I don't think I'm gonna cap it at 9,000 for a floor. There are some golfers around 86 87 ish who I like and I'm okay going it's Lucas Glover I'm okay with Lucas Glover and we should some golfers that implied It did I was lying. It's Lucas Glover. I'm okay with Lucas Glover and cash And I think that that might be my floor for cash games I Would if I needed Eric van Roy in 82 I would like kind of give it some consideration But I think for me it would probably be the 87 so we're not super far off there from a floor perspective I mean, I can get behind Glover. Okay, let's move on to current form talk about some golfers. We've been good recently and Nobody's but me not many people have been better at least from a ball striking perspective than Victor Hovland if the dude could putt like he'd win every event by like 16 strokes That's just how disgusting he's been recently, but now he's 11-1 in a really tough field and We know that the short game is not going to be a strength But honestly doesn't matter at this point. What do you see with Hovland at 11-1? so We're talking current form and I actually didn't even know what exactly his finishes have been But since the Schwab 21st 11th 12th and 3rd the reason I don't really care about that is because Finishing position is tied a lot to putting but for Victor Hovland. It's pretty much exclusively the t-degree in play He's led the past three fields and strokes gain t-degree That's Insane and if you if you gave me that I would pay almost any price frankly it for a DFS lineup I know he's playing a lot, but He's young enough where I don't have to worry about that. He's actually been driving to every event. So But he doesn't have to drive this week Like not like planes or I Don't actually know the story. I kind of like the mystery around it So I'm no I respect it like because road trips are fun. I would rather drive than fly Yeah, I don't play them especially now. I don't be around people. I Think that's I think that's what it is, but I like the misty like the mystique of I like the idea Victor Hovland like on the highway rip it off some beef jerky and listen to like Cold play or something like that visual my head makes me like him more. I don't know why cold play I have no idea. Don't ask don't ask He was in the final trio last week didn't make it to the playoff I'm not saying that anyone's gonna forget about him But there are so many options where I don't think his draft rate is gonna be prohibitively popular Like this is like a dream golfer T degree. We know that the putting isn't there but He's the same price as web simpson who you can kind of say that this isn't a good fit for web simpson but web simpson's an amazing iron player like Web simpson can kind of fit anywhere Um That's kind of the only like negative I have for hovland is the price Relative to everyone else, but I mean there's no way you can tell me that he doesn't deserve to be priced where he is So how are you handling Victor Hovland for the memorial? My quest okay, so you were talking about the putting like His bank grass numbers. It's a very very very very danger. It's like a 29 round sample. I think a bank grass It's a very small sample and should not draw conclusions from that But I'd rather he'd be neutral in a 29 round sample than bad. He's been neutral Kind of actually above average. I think if I recall correctly I'd rather have him there than actively bad So I actually am not counting the the putting as an assumed negative for him this week When I do that, it's really easy to like him despite the salary Would you rather have more a cow or a hovland at their salary because I think I go hovland personally I think which could be dumb but I Mean you can't really go wrong. I guess. No, you're you can't go wrong, but I think I prefer hovland I like hovland because he's a better driver Yeah, that's probably the only distinction and I mean more cows long-term short game is not any It's not substantially better than right Victor Hovland So I think I would go hovland there and I'm actually okay like we were talking about balance I'm okay having line-ups for hovlands my most my highest salary golfer like if I go a hovland Zander That's gonna get me in that upper 9,000 range as often as I want to be there and I like that a lot So I think that although hovland is High salaried and he is surrounded by good golfers. I'm still gonna be in on him. I think I Think I kind of am okay Just like keep going back to the well because like he hasn't given me a reason not to yet. So why not? Yeah, I mean and he's doing it through the t-degree Game that's really all you want and I think the most important takeaway for me this week is if if you basically I don't know. It's like the top 30 or so of golfers 9,500 or above if you take any of them and tell me that this guy's gonna win for the most part like Aside from a maybe one or two names. I'd speak 95 sorry, yeah, but like any of these golfers can win and I think that it makes a lot of Challenged me now. I need to find someone who you would say no Fowler I Wouldn't be surprised if Ricky won so like I want to get as many of those golfers as I can anywhere below that He's so good T-degree and he just can't putt I mean I'll work on this for us the podcast But you and then you drop down to 94 and go down Speeth Billy Horschel Kevin Strylman Ian polter Kevin Kisner Adam Hadwin Ben on Doc Redmond I'd be surprised if any of those guys so What you said you would be surprised Yeah, okay. Let's let's be real I think the true takeaway here is we listed Doc Redmond in the same stratosphere as Jordan Spieth I am into it. I will not push back on it at all. I love it All right, all right Let's have a Bryson DeChambo because Bryson has been the talk of the town ever since the end of the COVID-19 layoff and Back in the field this week and he is the betting favorite. So let's talk some Bryson How we're viewing him here in the four events Bryson has played since play resumed Bryson has gained at least seven point three strokes T-degree Three separate times the other event he gained just four point two T-degree so still very good And he's converted on that too. He has had finishes of third eighth sixth and first But there have also been some pop putting weeks in there including gaining 12.8 total strokes putting in the past two events and bentgrass is the worst surface for Bryson So I was big on Bryson two weeks ago and that definitely paid off But I may gravitate towards some of the other studs this week potentially leaving myself underweight on Bryson DeChambo this week as scary as that could be so Brandon How are you handling Bryson DeChambo as the highest salary golfer in the field? I Won't talk anyone out of him. I think that the the off the tee play being what it is and again It's not like he can only just launch it He's hitting fairways and he also knows when to club down and hit fairways when he when he needs to He knows how to miss in the right spots and that's a huge advantage that raises his floor. I Mean that being said I know that there's the shot tracker shot link stuff is like skewed but his iron play isn't as Consistent as you kind of want it to be it's been very good I'm not trying to say that it's not but he's okay around the Greens. Nothing amazing and He's been putting really well. I don't think you have to play him and I'm okay, just not really using him because at his price You really have to start digging down into like that Jordan Spieth Doc Redmond range Yeah, and I don't know if the difference between Bryson and Even John Rom is big enough to go from I mean, I should have this example pulled up but like you can get like John Rom and a Banser or like Bryson and Spieth or something like that And I know which one of those two I prefer same because I want to be in that upper 9,000 range as often as possible Which means I'm gonna take every discount I can get and even then the discount from Bryson to Rory McElroy at $200 is significant to me at least Like I'll take those $200 savings and go with Rory McElroy. So I mean Roy's probably gonna win this week anyway I mean, yeah, of course. He has to But I think when I have so many good alternatives Who are cheaper but also have the same upside as Bryson? I am okay taking those savings It's $500 down to Justin Johnson who I'm apparently now super into So I think that I'm just gonna take those savings I think that Bryson similar to Tiger where if he burns me burns me. That's fine I know that there is a decent chance that happens because Bryson's been crazy good Tigers won a couple tournaments. So that could happen and that's okay. It's gonna happen in golf pretty often So I'm okay Taking on that risk and ignoring them because I want the more The lower salary and the other guys and I think that if it means I ignore Bryson in a week where he goes off So be it. Let's move on to your second current form golfer. That's Daniel Burger and burger if you were listening to this Seven months ago and you had said he was 10-2 in a field that has this many good golfers You probably would have like laughed at someone but with the way the burger is played recently justifiable So what do you see a Daniel burger at 10-2 entering this weekend? so he's got Six straight top 10 finishes. He has a win Since the hiatus at the Charles Schwab Just to start since the return, but he won and was third Overall, he's got some of the best You know quote-unquote Recent form in the field if you look back at the past 24 rounds, which does span back into like February But he's eighth in stroke scanty to green. He's been a good ball striker plus a good putter I think that putting sometimes is something that we can gloss over and imagine that it is Completely unpredictable, but it's not the data shows otherwise It's not quite as important or as predictive as well It's important in a specific event obviously, but it's not it's not as predictive as the ball striking stats, which is why You should prioritize TD green play over putting but he's got that like he can do kind of everything His form at the Memorial hasn't been good, but I don't really care about that because he's a different call for right now Then he used to be I think the recent form is just too hard to hate at 10-2 for Daniel Burger So what are you thinking for Daniel burger this week? Yeah, and he isn't played the Memorial in like a long time So I can't even lie. I don't even care. I thought it's not even on my sheets what he's done here previously And I know you weren't saying that But I think that Burger is interesting because I think that if you look at like I love the upper 10,000 range But like it for some reason I need like if I have 10-5 on the table Burger would be a standout over Ricky fowler. I like Gary Woodland But like I would put burger over woodland pretty easily Patrick Reed is always kind of interesting But I put burger over him too. So in that tier, I think that burger is a number one golfer I think the issue that I have is that I'm using a balanced approach in order to get to the upper 9,000 range more often and rather than getting up to 10-2 so I If I get there I get there and I would definitely go to burger then But I'm also not sure if I'm going to get there because I like the upper 9,000 range so much Like I'd rather go with Casey and Neiman than burger and someone in the low 9,000s And that could be a mistake because again, I do like burger quite a bit But I think just from a roster construction perspective, I'm gonna gloss over him But it's nothing against him or his game recently. So more so a roster construction question than burger himself for me Yeah, I mean he fits easily if you do the I mean If you if you punt with one option and punt not in just pick any random golfer But you pick one of the probably five or six Justifiable plays like let's be real in a field this good. There aren't many So if you do that he fits in really well, I still think that if you're okay missing out on Any of the top few golfers you can still put him in In a lineup and I think it makes a lot of sense. He might be underpriced for how good he's been how consistent he's been And I think that we can really kind of trust that this is a change It's not just a recent hot stretch for him. Yeah, so I like dana burger a lot at tend to uh, so long as I'm not Struggling with the rest of my lineup to get him in I think that's a good way to phrase it. Um So he's not a priority for you. Is that the what you're saying? He he might be because I'm fine if he's like my second or I mean if he's my second highest like most expensive golfer, I'm gonna have Just about anything else I want to do So, I mean he's probably realistically gonna be third, but like yeah I'm fine with that because I think that he's underpriced. Okay. Uh, if I can get back up there I will uh, but I'm not gonna prioritize him over some of the the lesser expensive guys I think that's the way that I'd phrase that so we were talking about uh, the low 9 000 range not being all that intriguing We could have a potential exception there in doc redmond because he's back this week But this time he's not 10k instead. He is down the value range at $9100 which means I think he's worth discussing again The four events redmond has played since the end of the layoff He has gained at least 4.7 strokes in approach three separate times He was at 2.4 in the other and the off the t play hasn't been as consistent as the approach play but He did gain 4.4 off the t in one event and gained 2.2 in another And that gives him a path to upside when you add in how good the approach play has been Redmond's sample on bentgrass is small and it's not great But it's also not hideous and he's in the same range as other heat check ball striking phase like kory conners scottie sheffler so I'm in on redmond this week brandon. It sounds like you may not be uh, what's your view on him at $9100? So he's played 11. He has 11 starts in 2020 And how many of those do you think he's gained strokes around the green? I have no idea two yeah He's gained in putting one two three four five and he's actually gained at least three strokes putting in three of the past six So like he's got The the around the green play is never good But he has that kind of Potential to gain enough strokes putting to have some upside the approach play is almost always good off the t's Kind of hit or miss a little bit more than I would like but right I think for the price If you're digging down He does what you need him to do To make sense in a field this good I'm not really okay spending down on golfers who only pot well because it's not going to be enough this week Yeah, I think that's correct. Um Redmond or conners, uh redmond is 91 conners is 9 000 Redmond I think that's where I'm at too Like I just believe it a little more Like what yeah, I mean like leaving. Yeah, and I think it's easier to see redmond Gaining in the areas where he is weak than it is to see conners gaining in the areas where he is weak if that okay so I mentioned that, uh Redmond's gained like three strokes putting in like three of the past six. Yeah Uh, that's corey conner's ever done that he had like one. He did it like seven He he gained five point one at the sony But he's lost in two four six eight So he's lost in nine of 11 starts in 2020 Yeah I mean I would go redmond I'd go redmond. You mentioned polter as someone who did well last week and someone you recommended I would go redmond over polter as well at 93. Yeah, okay. Cool. We're on the same page there then Let's take a look at what the betting markets are saying for this week bryce and d shambo Is a favorite of andrew sport's book. He is 10 to 1 then you get to jesson thomas at 12 to 1 patrick cantley at 13 to 1 And rory macaroy at 14 to 1 then dustin johnson is 15 to 1 Collin warakawa and john romer will 22 to 1 before we get to hideki matziyama victor holland and web simpson They're all 25 to 1 tiger woods 27 to 1 brooks kepka is 28 and zander schoffelay rounds at the top group at 31 to 1 brandy We talked about A couple of studs so far but from a dfs perspective Who is your number one golfer in this field this weekend? Uh, I think it's got to be rory for the price Look, it's very easy to like bryce in for Assuming what he can do. It's very easy to like jesson thomas based on what he did here last week but Rory for as bad quote unquote bad as he's been everyone everyone's kind of acting like he's Like washed But he's like so consistent and so productive as a fantasy golfer which is kind of its own thing from winning And converting on wins obviously if you're spending this much at 11 8 you want to win Let's not pretend like rory can't win this event. That's Like silly, but it kind of seems like everyone's like yeah, he's not going to win any of these anymore I could be reading too much into that, but it really seems like people are just not thinking about rory enough um so Rory is my number one Because he's such a good tea to green player and I know that he won't gain as many yards off the tea as bryce in but Give me like rory From like 150 versus bryce in for like 110. I still might just prefer rory right now I just haven't seen enough from bryce in like around the greens to believe that he's going to get out of trouble As much as he might need I think goes back to the mora cow discussion that you were talking about at the beginning where like We've seen that we should discount what we've seen in small samples And rory's approach play in the small sample hasn't been great But even with the approach play not being as good as it has been previously He's still finished well because he has so many areas where he can win And like that to me says massive floor and if the approach play comes back to anywhere near where it was Massive ceiling So I think that that's why I also have rory at the top of my list is because the floor is there The ceiling is there like if his approach plays off again, he can still make that cut and he's not going to kill your lineup um It's not going to win you a tournament, but like maybe you can still catch with him And if he does click with the approach play he could win this in a crazy good field I mean, I mean like if bryce didn't lead the rocket mortgage in putting he wasn't going to win like Right I get that yeah, he putted well and he won and that's nothing we take away from him, but to think that bryce in in this field is The must play Because he won the rocket mortgage is the wrong way to think about it. He is a very easy play to justify Because of what he does off the tee and because he is good with approach Even though I prefer some other golfers at the top. So it's fine to play bryce it's definitely fine to play just thomas, but I prefer rory If we're talking about second since we both agree on rory and a greens no fun I might go dj second. Is that stupid? I'm I'm not there um with dj and I I was on him for his win. Yeah What I saw from him was he's going to gain strokes off the tee and kind of keep himself in and that week too He was like 30 to 1 um on fandal sports book whenever we were discussing it. So I don't know if dj's the right Fit this week like his long-term form over the past 50 rounds is probably the worst of any golfer Above like 10 5 even And he can get really hot and I'm like I understand that but I would rather play john rom. I'd rather play patrick cantley So if I'm looking for the number two, let's should we cut off bryce and in jt because I think they're all probably like one a one b one c um, I would look next to possibly victor holland okay I'm gonna go dj Six strokes an approach at the travelers 3.1 at the rbc heritage and the biggest issue with his long-term form has been the approach play Because he's 10th in stretching off the tee even in that bad sample He gained nothing at the travelers. Yeah, and that's the thing like but he's 10th over 50 rounds I know it just was it's it's insane and he gained 5.4 off the tee the week before that uh three pull one an approach so You know, I think that if I look at the long-term sample I like his off the tee play and the short-term sample I like his approach Maybe the approach regresses because he was really really bad before that but I don't know. I think if people are going to be off of him despite having really good performances recently then I'll be in on him I think playing dustin johnson on fandal at A very low draft percentage is a very easy play to talk yourself into Betting him at 15 to 1 on fandal sportsbook is not I think I'm having some of that trickle in Right, but I'm fine if I'm gonna bet. I'm just gonna go rory Yeah, without a doubt So if you're betting a favorite, it would be rory for me. Yeah easily We kind of talked about this before but with so many Just absolute bangers in this field. Are you are you just going balance rosters? Is that your default build this weekend? It has to be especially like once I once we did the 95 and up like if I have to play mark leishman sung jm and paul casey because I can like roster who like daniel berger zander and like holland or something I'm fine with that because this field really drops off to me at 9400 and down and Yes, if you roster lucas glover and he finishes 20th Again, and it saves you a lot of salary and you can spend up for brison and he runs away with it or whatever Yes, that's that's a good process, but the cut odds for these guys Really drops off the win equity really drops off. So I think if I'm building one lineup I'm really encouraged by the balance Although if I just plug in sebastian munio's and pray that he makes the cut and he's good enough to give you a green I can do almost anything and that's encouraging But I think if if I had to say right now, I'm probably not going to do that And I'm going to try to cap it at 9000 with potentially Harris english or doc redmond And then go balance from there if you if you do eric van royne at 80 I don't know if you're I don't know if you're in on eric van royne. I am I always love eric van royne Okay, so he's 82 I can't recommend him anymore because he's just Ruined everything. I don't care He's 82 if you plug him in I can fill a lineup that that brings me the the greatest joy. I have experienced in This entire quarantine. That's probably hyperbolic Um But the lineup that I can make with eric van royne in there I get to pepper that upper 9000 range. I get to use a couple of studs. I like a lot That's pretty fun. So I think that I'm on board with the One lower salary play not munios. Um one lower salary play and then Kind of a mixed a more balanced approach from there I think that is going to be my go-to build for this week I mean it makes a lot of sense because again None of these golfers who are 95 or above are guaranteed to make the cut And you can kind of say that Any week and be like, well, I don't you just play all the $7,000 guys because they'll be low owned like You can like nitpick that conversation, but One of these golfers down here making the cut and you really have a process for it So I'm gonna use really good t-degree To unlock pretty much five world-class golfers like elite golfers is It's just a very simple decision And that is what I'm using against you in the bobble hat this week. So good luck Which golfers have had odds that have shifted since things opened I think the only golfer whose odds of lengthened is tiger from 25 to 27 on vandal sportsbook Which was it's like noteworthy But some golfers whose odds have shortened patrick cantley from 15 to 13 Dustin johnson from 17 to 15 zander schoffel a from 33 to 31 gary woodland I mean, I I think I know he wasn't I know he wasn't 33 a year book to begin with but Um, gary woodland 45 to 37 abraham answered 50 to 42 jason day and tony finau 65 to 55 kevin strillman 75 to 65 walkie neiman 75 to 70 and then bunking on from 120 to 100 So we talked about kevin strillman entering last week as someone who had Good course history and had come off a second place finish and then he finished seventh last week He's $9,300 and it's in a tier we don't like i'm still not super drawn towards kevin strillman So i'm guessing the betting odds is just like a course history play I'm not in on him. Uh, but is that something that you are gravitating towards or no I mean, he's 30 second and strokes gained off the t 29th and approach over the past 50 rounds Uh, because he's gonna hit fairways here. Yeah, um, I don't know if I don't know. I feel like my spreadsheet's wrong, but I guess according to fantasy national over the past 50 rounds He's 132nd in par three scoring, but second in par five scoring. All right um I'm sure Well, it's probably because par threes are more centered around short game And his short game is not good Yeah, I just mean I wonder if like if they adjusted for field strength what his par five scoring would be but I don't I don't hate it. Yeah I had I wasn't really drawn towards him because like again the guy is right above him or so good But it's I mean it's that it's that like situation Am I good with kevin strulman at 93 or do I find a way to get 200 to get to mark leishman or sung jam Or 300 to paul kasey, right, uh, which lower salary golfers have odds to stand out to you? Uh, none so Uh To kind of give anyone with relatively short odds I have to make it like 9500 or below We have some jam and kevin strulman Both at 65 to 1 jordan speed 70 to 1 billy horse billy horse when mark leishman 75 Ben on is 100 to 1 so is kevin kisner adam hadwin's 110 Ian polter's 120 But there are only two golfers below 9000 on fandal and who have odds better than 150 to 1 to win on fandal sports book And that's sep straka at 130 He's 8500 and shane larry at 140 who is 8900 so If your process involves kind of matching up odds win odds and salary going to be a little bit of a tough week Although I mean sum jam at 6500 Or yeah 65 to 1 and 9500 Would help out a lot. Yeah um Yeah, it's it's weird like it's weird to recommend golfers who are 250 to 1 to win But like I feel like that's kind of something we just have to embrace this week because the field is so good You don't have to lower and What like you don't have like you don't have to The risk at all instant as much as I left sep straka a guy doesn't need to win 8800 dollars No, he doesn't Yeah He needs to make the cut. Yeah What are your winnings cut odds? Uh, probably a lot higher than anywhere else because I his t degree games very very good Um, I have him at 58 which is significantly higher than anyone else in this range This price range so well look look I place probably more EVR than anybody same same The joggers ttp baby Weather for this weekend things are going to be kind of windy actually on thursday winds will start around nine miles per hour But we'll increase to 15 miles per hour by noon The golfers in the early wave will have a slight advantage Uh, but everybody's going to deal with some kind of wind there No wind at all on friday So I do think there is some credence to stacking early t times on thursday and hoping the wind gets wild on thursday afternoon I don't think it's a must but it's an option the wind is pretty calm saturday before picks back up throughout the day on sunday So if you're on 13 miles per hour, the final group is rounding up on sunday I don't think you need to look at wind splits Uh, necessarily because I don't think it's high enough for that But there is at least some thought to giving preference to golfers teeing off earlier thursday That's what I would say about the weather for this weekend But let's dive into our player picks for the memorial tournament starting off in the upper range brandon Who stands out to you on faduel for this weekend? So rory's my number one I don't think you can go wrong with pretty much anyone in the top, but I'm also okay if I start my lineup soft salary wise with victor hovland at 111 You couldn't really design a better daily fantasy profile than what victor hovland's given us With the amazing t degree in play. He's always in position for birdies. He's just so good at ball striking that the floor is elevated The chipping is still a little bit problematic and I mean One of the reasons I don't like to watch as much golf as I think Some other I mean I watch a lot of golf But when you see him chip from the rough and stay in the rough you think that he still can't chip Chip he hold out for your nerves. He holds out after that. But like I mean, which which is it? Either way, I'm fine. Like I said starting my lineups with hovland if I have to I think we do a lot worse I'm not worried. Obviously. We don't have to worry about the travel Um, but again, we can't really go wrong with any of the top tier and I think I would rank the top Rory Jt Bryson can't lie I got rory 1 dj 2 It's going to double down. Let's do it. Um, maybe the no travels are negative for hovland Like maybe he like gets some juice out of these like road trips. I don't know Well, if he doesn't do well, if he doesn't do well, it's going to be because he didn't drive the car exactly There are no other conclusions to be formed. So Just you know, make sure you check back on this My favorite high salary guy is rory macaroy because The form since the end of the layoff has been okay But I think with all the shiny objects at the top end of the salary pool We could get a situation where rory might not not be as popular as usual and that's a good thing The main blemish for rory has been his approach play since the end of the layoff And he's actually down a tenth of a stroke there in three events, but He's making up for it. Uh, because he's making up ground off the t He has been lights out around the green which is kind of what rory does and that could make his finishes unsustainable Given that around the t play is not as Sticky, but the flip side is that if he gets his approach play back on track He could go back to dominating so even with the recent struggles rory is 21st in the field and approached the past 50 rounds He's third off the t. He is 17th and scrambling So I am going to actively try to be overweight on rory macaroy at 11,800 dollars I don't think he's a must play for cash games because I don't think anybody's really a must play for cash games in such a good event But I think he's someone i'm probably going to use in cash games. Uh, what's your evaluation on rory? um, I think Based on what he can do t degree and Even though he's not the best putter. He's not been abysmal putter. Um, I think that gives him the highest floor over the long term nobody scores more Fandal points compared to the field that he plays in then rory more cow is actually second um I don't think that rory will command quite the attention that he deserves with bryson and jt there. So For me, it's rory. Uh, number one this week. I feel good. You can never really feel bad about plugging in rory macaroy All right, who else do you like in this upper range? Um, just about everyone. So i'm okay saying daniel berger at 10 2 and really honing in on him because I think he's underpriced And if you're okay playing Guys like daniel berger You can spend up for a third fourth stud depending on what you do with the the rest of your lineup Someone like xander. I didn't really mention john rom, but I think he's a great win bet a bounce back Played pretty well on the weekend. Um last week I think everyone's just over john rom and that's the kind of spot that we should probably dive back in on but daniel berger Not someone I really played a lot. Uh, that's been bad because he's been so good with those six straight top tens But he's really good. Like I said, I talked about it already, but the t degree in game has been really good and the putter has been Helping him reach high end. But also It's a good thing to be a good putter and I think that sometimes we look at good putting and say well, he's bound to regress He can still regress to his baseline, which is probably just a plus putter. So that's the difference. So Uh, under 10 and under 10 5, I think berger just opens up so much and it just really gives a lot of credence to a balanced lineup Like regression is not to zero strokes game putting regression is back to their like their true talent level And it's also not. Yeah, it's not it's not regression to negative. Right exactly I mean, unless you're But for john rom, I know what you're talking about. I know you're talking about but then I had sad thoughts about every golf We like except for zander schovley because zander is a good putter Zander is my second high salary guy and he did struggle off the tee last week And part of his 14th place finish was good putting but the longer sample on zander says we should be ecstatic about using him At 10 a zander rakes 19th or better In all four of the key stats and looking at for this week Just in time This is the only other guy who ranks in the top 20 and even three of those stats and zander doesn't at all four and Last year at the memorial at this exact same course Zander gained 4.7 strokes off the tee and 1.5 around the green So although he didn't do well in those categories this past week He can beast out in those categories at this exact same course. So I think zander is like 500 ish dollars under priced for this event at 10 eight. So He might be the guy I turned to most often of any golfer in this entire field. I know that might be A bit hyperbolic or might be overboard given that I do like some guys who are cheaper Maybe I should make them my core place and rotate in these studs, but I just think he's underpriced What is your evaluation of ya boy zander schoffley? Yeah, I mean at 31 to 1 there might not be a better win pick on fandalsports book than zander according to data golf In this field, he's I think 14th and adjusted strokes gain approach in 2020 and 9th off the tee Which like think about that this field adjusting for the the you know the fields that these guys play and that's insane He is very underrated and yes, he's not always in contention Which is scary because I track zander more than any other golfer. So like I'm always aware of like where he is But I think he's a great dfs play. I think he's a great win bet And I really have no issues with zander. Um, I'm gonna go back to him Alrighty, let's move down to the mid range then who stands out to you there Abraham answer at 99. Uh, I think that uh, he kind of fits that Like we've forgotten about abe answer. They have an unfan chair. I'll tell you that. Oh, no, sorry Um, well, that's surprised. I mean it's warranted. Um, he's tied for first with tiger Oh, wow Okay, I think it's justified just saying that but I'm just letting you know in general abe answers not been at the forefront of everyone's mind But it's a really good price for someone who's top 17 off the tee and an approach over the past 50 rounds he was like that Can't fade a few weeks ago and that's always silly for someone who's For as good as abe answer is he's not Bryson like he's not like it's different. Um But answers finished top 14 and three straight starts since the return Uh, because of really good iron play. He's really accurate. He's a really good driver And I think people don't really think about that He could probably be like 10 3 10 4 in this field and that would make sense Uh, but for for 99, I think that abe answer is to stand out play. I think he's a cash game play for sure Um, I think he's a good play for tournaments. I have no objections to abe abe answer. I think he's awesome. Um, It's another reason why this tier is good So let's talk about walking neiman also in this range neiman played decently decently well last week at this course But not enough to gain attention from the public Which I think is a good thing for if we're talking about dfs because we don't want to be popular Neiman probably won't get that Uh, he gained 1.4 strokes off the tee and 4.1 on approach Just lost around the green to push him down into a 31st place finish Which is actually the worst finish neiman has had at weirfield He was sixth in the memorial in 2018 27th last year and then 31st was past weekend and all together neiman ranks 28th off the tee He's 15th in approach and that's in addition to being actually a plus putter on bentgrass So at $9,700 neiman not my favorite golfer in this tier It's paul kasey and we'll talk a more more about him in a second But I think that neiman is another name to add to this list. It's it's answer. It's neiman. It's kasey It's leishman I think finau is interesting too. Uh, there are a lot of good names here Where does neiman stack up for you in this range? um, he might be Third okay for me behind answer and sungjae. Okay, um, but I mean He was 18th in approach last week. His only struggle was really around the green Um, and I think we can probably buy in to the the idea that neiman's baseline as a putter at least on bentgrass is Close to zero. Yeah, like I'll take it's not wildly negative and that's what we've wanted for a long time Uh, he virtually never ever ever loses approach strokes And that is something that gives him a floor in ceiling So for 97, he's just another golfer who fits the balance build seems safe As safe as can be uh for someone priced here who's not elite So neiman, I would think third for me in this range. Okay, I think I put him second behind kasey Uh, talk about sungjae someone you had higher on your list than neiman Yeah, so 200 savings, uh from neiman And technically better win odds on on vandal sports book the current form pretty spotty. I get that. That's why his price is low um On really both sport vandal sports book and vandal But in won the honda classic Was third at the arnold palmer, uh, you know, february into march since that return finished 10th at the trial of schwa, but then everything kind of Just went into the dumpster. I missed the cut at the rbc heritage 50 the travelers 53rd at the rocket mortgage 63rd last week at the the workday charity open Hasn't gained approach strokes in any of the past four but gained off the team three of them We've actually I went back and it's not that uncommon for someone as good as sungjae like and specifically for sungjae He's had some like cold streaks with the irons and it will snap back all of a sudden It's very hard to predict but at 95 in this field I think that That's the right kind of chance to take because you could if we find out that sungjae's just forgotten about Um, he's 25th in fan share tags. That's going to be enough where he's not drafted on enough teams to care about significantly So I think the upside's there for me. Yeah, I think Like I said, I'm there from a win bet perspective. The reason that I'm a bit colder from a dfs perspective is that Like if I bet him to win and he stinks he burns that one ticket But if I have him in dfs And he stinks and I have five other guys who hit That's concerning. Um, so with the the approach play being colder I am more okay betting him to win than I am for dfs. I think that I'm still going to get him in dfs because Like the odds he gets a top 10 are better than a lot of guys in this range But the odds he misses the cut might may also be higher. I mean not in your simulations, but like yeah Realistically It's just it's crazy to think how good sungjae is and has been and now we're like we can't really trust the guy I can't trust him at times But he's not going to be a core play for me. Whereas walkie neiman paul kasey will be If that makes sense It does. Yeah. Okay. Uh, so let's talk about paul kasey I've mentioned him several times as being my favorite guy in what is a loaded range and It's hard to settle on just a couple of guys like but I think that kasey is at the top of the list for me Because he's someone who stands out both with his ball striking and his putting He ranks eighth in stroking off the tee and sixth in approach and bank grass is the best putting surface for paul kasey He is 25th there over the past 100 rounds and kasey doesn't have any recent history on weirfield, but He's played her six times before so he knows the course Most recent was 2016 and he did miss the cut there, but he has all the tools necessary for a top 10 finish So I am good Labeling kasey as my favorite golfer in this tier. He didn't make that list for you, brandon. What pushed you off of paul kasey? uh Partially that you had him written up. Oh I thought you'd listed like him as like your favorite guy this tier though Yeah, so in I like I like em neiman an answer more uh, the thing that pushes me off kasey is The uncertainty. Sure. I don't think that paul kasey needs the golf every week Or every other week to feel like we know what paul kasey is He's very good Tee de green the if you want to talk about win equity Like it's there statistically. Yeah, the conversion is not always quite there I think that there's some safety but he's like The putting can be bad enough where I don't feel particularly safe with him And I would kind of think that sung jay's Tee de green game is Makes me like him more. That's fair Uh, kasey's not great around the green. So I I think that's like fair and sung jay is so like I I mean generally Um, so I get it. Um, I just like kasey more. I think that the Ballast wrecking has been so good for such a long sample It was not bad in his first event back from the cova 19 layoff. Uh, so that's not a negative So I think that's why I wind up going there. I think kasey's a cash gameplay and a core play for me in tournaments, too Look, he's he's a really underrated driver of the ball with with a combination of distance and accuracy He's gonna probably hit a lot of greens in regulation. It's just comes down to whether he makes the putts I like paul kasey a lot and he's just again another reason why I like such a balanced lineup this week. All right, let's move down if you do have to Force yourself to roster some cheaper golfers. Who will you use when you have to do that? I think doc redmond's interesting, but we usually cap this at like 9,000 I think there's someone at 9,000 who's interesting. That's harris english. Uh, he's finished top 20 and five of six Starts the exception being a missed cut at the trial Schwab He ranks only 60 second and long-term approach play, but has gained their Three of the past four before he tested positive for covet. There are holes in his game Which is why I don't really want to recommend too many inexpensive golfers this week because they all have issues But at 9,000 I think he stands out in this field Kind of a lot compared to Anyone else really in this range. Yeah, I almost said harris english my player picks So I'm on board with him 9,000 Checks a lot of boxes, which is hard to do like we talked about how everyone In this range has to have a glaring hole. Like you said he has holes, but like he's not Hideous anywhere, and I think that's a good thing at least based on what I have So I think that that english is someone I will use for sure I mean if this course plays tough, he's six than bogey avoidance He's fourth in this field in greens and regulation games again Those aren't adjusted for the fields that they're playing in but that's still pretty good. I agree My first lower salary golfer is lukas glover And it's kind of just a given that glover short game is going to be an issue But his approach play has been so bonkers recently ever since play resumed that it hasn't mattered He has gained at least five strokes an approach in three or four events Since the end of the layoff he gained three in the other Even though glover has lost strokes around the green in all four of those events And he has lost strokes putting in two. He's still in a top 25 finish each time That's how good the approach play has been for lukas glover. He is 34th and strokes 35th and stroking off the tee He's going to strike the ball well if he can just stumble into a couple of good putts He's got some pretty big juice for 87. So I know It may seem like his ceiling is a top 25 finish, but If he happens to have a good week around the green, I think everything else is so good Where he could have more upside than that. So I understand the reservation But I don't think it's entirely something that should push us off of it If he had I mean it's around the green play isn't just something that you kind of lock into right um he almost never gains there and While we still want the recipe to be approach play number one and then like off the tee Give yourself a chance to make some putts We see golfers Not like these golfers who are amazing ball strikers have lukewarm approach play for like a round or two and their putting can't save them and then they miss the cut and I think a lot of these golfers who make the cut can separate and kind of climb by putting themselves into into position a lot I think this week we don't have to take the risk as much So while I don't hate lukas glover, I just I really think that I don't want to have to dig down here. I mean, I don't know why you're not assuming They're just going to gain 16 strokes an approach again. It's not going to matter, you know if he does if he doesn't like if he's like okay He might easily miss the cut because Yeah, let's look at everyone else at $8,700 and his baseline is higher from the from those But you don't have to play anyone at 87 and still and you can still feel like an amazing lineup And a lot of different variations of lineups I'm going to look. Okay. So we're both good with the idea of one cheap option. Yeah Why not Sebastian Munoz Because luke is a glover is better He is $7,300 So $1,400 in savings Which is the difference between no, no, don't do that So it's 11 for John rom and Patrick reed pat reads straight up a banser straight up over John rom But Munoz, okay 450 to 1 to win. I'm not recommending to bet him to win. Although I have a lot of features This seemed pretty dead But Munoz missed the cut last week and he just got tanked to the bottom of the the salary pool I mentioned this already, but he's 29th and overall strokes gained t-degree through two rounds Compared to everyone else's four rounds per round. He was ninth and t-degree Among golfers last week. He lost 4.4 strokes putting to miss the cut He's not a great potter, but he doesn't always he's not quite as abysmal as that would seem I think that if you're punting with one play Munoz makes sense. I did it with Carlos Ortiz last week. He made the cut, but Joel David didn't Um and Justin rose was a train wreck, but I like the idea this week of either a six-man balanced lineup or Spend down with one spot rather than spending down with like two or three. I don't think that's the right play this week. Yeah Um, so I have six finishes on my sheet for the six most recent tournaments just so I can see Finishes, I know you dive in deeper after that right Munoz has passed six cut cut cut 28 cut cut Yeah, sounds like a I'm barking out like a football like cadence Yeah Nah, I've used Munoz a lot of those times. He's been cut. So like I'm generally in but at some point you Gotta make the cut Yeah, you do So I'm gonna go Glover instead I'll pay the 14 hundred to get to Glover Okay, I mean Look, I'm not gonna fight anyone sure and I'm I'm really only recommending this in small doses But sure for how good he it he was teeter green last week He easily could have made the cut and he would have been proud. I think he was like 83 last week. Yeah, something like that Orteez is 79. I think that Munoz is 83. I believe orteez was 76. Okay. Yeah close enough. Whatever Oh, no either way It was something you'll know who is 79 who I'm pretty sure missed the cut I didn't use him, but I had him on my like tracking thing because I was curious didn't do anything So, uh, my lower salary guy who I want to use as a you know punting option is Eric van Royen Not as cheap as Munoz, but I like what he does more because if I want to live in that mid 9000 range I've gotta You know find someone super cheap unless I'm going super balanced. I think that Eric van Royen fits that He's 8200 and that's because his win odds are all the way out at 250 to 1 Probably not going to win it kind of like Munoz But he can make a cut and push for a top 20 Van Royen's approach play has not been great in three events since play resumed But it hasn't been bad enough to ignore that he's 35th in the field and approached the past 50 rounds He is also 23rd off the team. We've seen van Royen light it up against really good fields in the not so distant past So I am down to buy him 8200. I think that van Royen fits that really well Are you still going to use him or has he burned you too many times? I think he's tempting. I mean He was 8th at the PGA last year He was in contention at the WGC mexico when he finished 3rd He just doesn't pot. Yeah, and at a certain point. I mean you want to talk about Sebastian Munoz his finishes For van Royen since his third cut it's cut 58 or something like that Cut cut 21st cut Yeah, and it's because he just hasn't potted. Yeah, I mean his irons haven't been great, but You're you're embracing a lot of risk down in this range um And you could be embracing risk with eric van Royen have him make the cut finish 25th, but you Really wanted to gem in like Take a think you know take your pick of an expensive golfer Hideki brooks tiger and like Those guys can still miss the cut. Yeah So I feel like the right play is to minimize the amount of times that you really spend down on golfers who are like 40% likely to make the cut but you said van Royen's 58. So we're we're swimming in money, baby That's the long term. Yeah, that's the long term. Uh-huh. Yeah. No, that's that's that's fact See the simulations are only fact when I want them to be fact. I just want you to know that Yeah, I got you win picks for this week. We're gonna go one at 60 to one or longer One i'm gonna include any anybody you want at the top end because I think it's a good enough field We can do that. Um, I won the bobble hat so I get to pick 60 to one or longer I could Be a dick and pick Sung Jae But I'm gonna pick Joaquin Neiman at 70 to one. I'll let you have your Sung Jae. That's okay. I like Neiman more Actually, I like Paul Casey more. Yeah, just kidding. Yeah, no, sorry. I need to stick with what I said Paul Casey 75 to one. He is my win pick of the longer guys Yeah, Casey's actually first among those guys and win odds in my sims. So good pick. Good job. Um Uh, so if I can go anyone I'll go with rory Okay Although I think some really good bets include john rom and xander. Yeah, um, I would agree Depending on what the number is because xander's 20 some places in like Yeah, that's true. It's enough to make me think he's 31 on fandal sports. This is why you bet fandal sports book, baby Uh, okay. Who do you have for your long person? Sung Jae Sung Jae, okay It's a term we'll use in MLB DFS for like if there's an opener. Um, anyway, long boy. Um I think I'll go JT. I know I mentioned I like DJ more than JT But when it actually goes down to it, I'm picking JT Um, Justin Thomas. You're picking win picks. I mean, yeah 15th off the T second and approach six and scrambling Like what what more do you want? Uh, so if I can go just straight up with no salaries? No odds tied to it. I'll go JT over the other ones if I can't ever worry, which I can't Yeah, um It could be silly not to pick Bryson, but yeah, I think all things considered. I have rory, uh number one Yeah Some is thick with it. So you have rory and sun j I have JT and paul kasey. I feel like I picked that combo Several times I don't know how far back your win pick spreadsheet goes But I've definitely picked that exact combination at some point in the past I was actually trying to find it because both names populated when I was typing them in Yeah, so it's definitely happened at some point. Uh, any final thoughts for you, Brandon before we close up for this week Uh, you need to get six of six to make a run at the top of a tournament. Um More golfers will make the cut so it might feel like you can take more chances I think there's merit to that but in the same breath You're not guaranteed that your stars make it. So I think by Raising your lineups floor you actually have a significantly better chance of Getting six of six through even if the optimization doesn't actually work out that way. Yeah I saw max homo like apologizing because he didn't get lineups at six to six and like it's amazing Um, so yeah, bless you max homo Um, but yeah, I think getting six of six is is key Which is why I know that I was talking about lukas lover and eric van rooyn But I am okay with a balanced approach where your floor is 9091 like a harris english or doc redmond type But i'm also okay dropping down for one This is not a week though where i'm gonna have multiple golfers below nine thousand dollars in the same lineup I don't think that this is the kind of week for that personally. I think that's the number one takeaway Alrighty, that is all that we have for today. That's all we got for a couple of weeks now brandon I appreciate it. Uh, good luck to you this weekend. Where can people find you on twitter? 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