 Are Filipinos half Asian and half Latino the internet is still debating this and we're here with the Filipino comedian to try to figure this out Oh, we're gonna settle it once and for all joining us today is Marcus Cardona. What up? What's up? One of the funniest comedians that people may or may not know about yet Marcus, let me just ask you the question that I've seen it on reddit quora, etc. Etc. Etc. Random colloquial Instagram discussions. Is it true that Filipinos are half Latino and half Asian? I'll explain this in the best way that I can figure it out, which is We identify as Asian but are Spanish inspired like a fusion restaurant It's a tasty fusion restaurant. Yeah, dude. It's what happens dude is our Latinos who are Latina girls who are in the anime Filipino we don't know we'll figure it out They identify as Asians Latina in the anime This was sparked by a reddit meme that says I'm gonna watch incanto and turning red they seem fun Hispanic generational trauma Asian generational trauma both beating up a Filipino. What do you think of this? I mean that meme that meme hits dude like it's the that's the that's the common ground in canto between Filipinos and Asians and like Spanish people and Filipinos just in the middle be like we'll take all that pain What side of it was Asian or I guess which side of incanto do you guys relate to? For Filipinos all the same all the same parts for sure We we don't talk about Bruno. I'm like Bruno Mars like what's up. So does this mean since Filipinos exist Does this mean that? Latino culture and Asian culture have a lot more in common than we all think I mean I know that there are similarities Yeah, I think I definitely think that it's crossing over for sure, especially here in New York Half the time. I'm like, are you Filipino? It's just like no, just like a Latino with like wingtips, but it's fine Yes, that's just real but at the same time. I think that luckily Asian culture has moved forward But like we're the we're like the physical embodiment of like the cultures coming together So a lot of people in the middle will find like hang out hang out with us You know what is underrated though the Pacific Islander element because how you know what I've noticed like Sometimes nowadays people are like, hey, are we half Hispanic or half Asian? But the discussion in the past 10 20 years ago was are we Pacific Islander or are we Asian? Like when did the discussion switch to be like Hispanic or Asian? Do you see what I'm saying like there's been a shit. Do you notice that? Yeah? I well I'll speak from personal is it because reggaeton got bigger Because the dancing vibes for sure. I think that definitely like someone found a sample and then mixed it in But I also think that for the most part when they introduced Pacific Islander on tax forms I checked it just because I'm like, maybe I'll get a refund or something. I have no idea But yeah, the argument there is because now I think more people have met Pacific Islanders after like Oh, are you like related to the rock? I'm like, no, that's a Pacific Islander or a Tongan And I'm like nope like Samoan like we all want that but we don't have the height for it Otherwise the Philippines would be crushing in basketball for sure because if we had more Pacific Islander, right I think you guys don't get the full Pacific Islander card because there's not enough Filipino linemen. Yep. No, that's true, too Yeah, I didn't know that's that's that's fair. There's not enough linemen or like I have a quantitative Breakdown of what I think is your median Filipino. I think your median Filipino You mean most common Filipino your most common Filipino And this is in general with the Philippines America. I know it could be different right is 65% Asian 20% No, no, yes, 65% Asian 15% Latino and that puts us as what 80 20% Pacific Islander. Okay, that's fair That's that's fair. I mean specific Islander as in we like identify with Moana and Lilo a lot for sure No, but what about that split Andrew come up with your split between the three and the test is if there's three pie slice Also, I want to see if you have better kumon math skills Actually have another number in my head I think it's a little bit more Asian. I would say it's 72% Asian and then I think it's I think the average Filipino was only 10% Hispanic or let Latino like Spanish, right? Maybe up to around 10 less than 8% 10% and then the rest is a Pacific Islander Mm-hmm, but but then again, what is Pacific Islander because? But Japan is a Pacific Island Japan is not Islands in the Pacific, but I'm saying where do we make the cut Guam, right? If you're Guam Samoan blood, right? You know Filipino Indonesian blood is that possible? I need to split between the three Oh the split between the three. If you could go in a fourth if you want me personally, okay, I'd say I'd say it's like 80 80% 80% Asian I'd say like a little higher on there like no matter what like we're watching Asians are watching k-dramas over like telenovelas like that's gonna be it I'd say 10% Spanish depending on Depending on how many traditional garbs you have from the colonizers from our people. What's up? And then I'd say an equal 10% Pacific Islander depending on how close you are to the water and if you like swimming Also, doesn't it matter how if you have the more Filipino last name or the Spanish last name? Yeah, but also at the same time. It's rare like I have cardons like a Spanish last name And then I have four names like Spanish tradition Christian like type 5 But I wouldn't say that that it's like just because the name and you know I knew a Filipino growing up from Eastern Washington. His name was Khalid Mohammed I think and he was from Mininau. Yeah, he was a Muslim So, you know, I mean, it's not there's even a lot of variation depending on when you yeah Once you want yeah, once you go to the islands it varies. It's it's like a brook. It's like a New York Borough, it's like a Filipino but not yeah, it's funny because on a lineup if you got Filipino comedians You could have like a Jose Rodriguez and then a Patricia dingless on yeah on the same bill and you're like, ah, they're both Filipino My question is when it comes to the rise of it this whole Asian wave that everybody's talking about Asians are coming up Asians are representation representation Do you feel in your heart that it includes Filipinos are Filipinos still benefiting from it? What is happening? What's your opinion? I definitely think Filipinos are benefiting from it, especially if there is a black audience I'm gonna be completely honest But I think there's like a crossover like within like that like with depending on which Asians you are caring towards like the younger Like hip-hop oriented or like the traditional like business Asian because like there's two different like specters of like that Like that's real talk Asian Asians who wear suits at the club or Asians who are still rocking out with their chains and like everything out going elsewhere I think yeah Filipinos are definitely involved there I think that if you have an Asian party and there isn't a Filipino There is less chance of karaoke or more fun happening Same thing with like other Asians being there like if you have Cambodians there might be a fight what like they just increases the odds Are Filipinos still the coolest Asians or have they been supplanted by South Koreans? Dude Koreans dude. There are Filipinos who are auditioning for K-pop groups who have learned Korean gotten the skin bleaching got the context dyed the hair I dyed my hair. It's fine. This isn't a Filipino inspiration. This is K-pop for sure But I do think yeah, I'm still I'm still a hundred percent like proud to be Filipina I still rough out but I feel like and this is just anecdotally It's not to say like Filipinos like it's just growing up Filipinos were like undoubtedly the coolest Asians because they were also the Most Americanized most hip-hop. Yeah, they played the most basketball They had like they had all the markings that when you were growing up in like the 2000s when you're like a kid back then you were like yo Filipinos they were the most involved in hip-hop rappers any rapper that came out you thought was probably Filipino and then in the past like 10 years it seemed like just the media from the Korean side and the East Asian side just got so much better But in a more fobby different way, you know what I mean? Yeah, like Filipinos are still the most coolest Americanizations from what I know Yeah, as far as I know, I think it's just because we're just easier to communicate with because if you go to a Korean hype Beasts you'll get shut down anyone. So I think that that might be the interpretation I still like you know, I do think that no matter what all the success of every Asian like Filipinas are in that like group But when do we get to like rotate to the front of the group? We don't know. We'll see Right. I'm moving on. This is another thing I pulled from Reddit. By the way when I'm pulling from Reddit I'm saying Reddit slash Filipino American Reddit slash Filipino Reddit slash Philippines What is going on with the ongoing internet beef? But potentially IRL beef between Filipinos in the Philippines and Phil Ames What are you aware of this because I actually wasn't super aware of it until I just looked it up Yeah, no my algorithm told me that my cousin had beef with me Yeah, I think that no matter what like again, I think it's it's definitely an ego pride thing And there is like a soul sense of pure a Pino which Filipinos love Bringing that up which is like even like we have phrases for like half Filipinos like mestizo and stuff like that to differentiate like the tears of it and then There are black Filipinos like APL from like black eyed peas and like, you know, there's a whole tier system But within just the beef between Filipinos and Filipino Americans I think that it's Filipino Americans like losing touch with like the language like a lot of us don't speak the language as well as we could And obviously like people in the Philippines get offended by that. But at the same time, I think Filipino Americans We like to rep the culture as much but not in the same way that Filipinos and the Philippines want us to so when Filipino Filipinos see us being like, oh, we're Filipino American like doing the culture and like wrapping as much as we can It's like seeing someone cause play a culture That's how I that's how I've interpreted it and I see it from like especially like watching those TikToks and like people being like Anyway, these Filipino Americans like that's the entire vibe that they give Between the beach which side are you on you reppin hard for a philip gang? Are you more with team? You see both sides. I see both sides like I think that for the most part at the same time I don't think that Filipino Filipino like the Filipino Filipinos who are vlogging and like uploading like tick-tocks about this They haven't been to the state so they also don't understand the situation or if they do go to the states They just see the Filipino dominant areas like the Bay area or like maybe like they go to New York one time It's interesting man I always thought this was interesting because like the Philippines is such a huge English-speaking market a lot of people high English Literacy, I mean, that's why sometimes when you call tech support. It's actually coming from the Philippines now Not just India. Hello. This is Kyle Hello, my name is George. How can I help you and then I'm like Chase Bank Call, please take a time to take a short survey. Yeah, so they speak really good English, but And nothing's like blocked. They're all on their phones. So it's a huge social media market So on all these posts about Filipino American things You can see a bunch of comments from Filipinos from the Philippines and that's not like every Asian market, you know Because a lot of other Asians like Chinese from China They're not maybe it's not as big of a market to be speaking leaving comments in English on Instagram same with like Korean So it's like you kind of like you guys get to communicate with your fob counterparts like directly Yeah, which is interesting like what's it like being able to talk with the with the fobs because I guess for other Asians We unless we're good at our mother language. It's hard to yeah Yeah, I'd say it's it's fine because at least you get to see how up to date They are on slang because I've definitely seen like some comments been like. Oh, they just learned Riz. This is great But at the same time I think that even though we have like commute like we can like communicate clearer I think that the viewpoints are so separate that even if communications great like the viewpoints are so Misguided because again like Filipino Filipinos want to see themselves represented in America But they want someone who just came fresh off the boat and is out there like repping Versus like someone who grew up in America has a completely different experience from overseas and then doesn't necessarily represent what they wanted back home All right, let's play this What can you guys unite on how can Phil Ames and Filipino from Philip the Filipinos and the Phil Ames Unite on things and team up. How can you guys benefit from each other? Okay, so one We can benefit off food. We are the biggest spokesperson for Filipino food That's like the one thing every food like there are no hateful comments in a Filipino food section unless it's like family members And that's out of love but I'd say like Singing like no matter what it feels weird because I'm like these are the big stereotypes It's singing and dancing no matter what I've never seen like a Filipino like Roup I've seen like a million Filipino flags Go underneath and emojis underneath every singing dancing of a Filipino and also not fully Filipino 1% Filipino We'll claim that shit. We'll be like, you know, that's ours. That's our team Would you marry a Filipino woman like from the Philippines like a kind of a fobby? Yeah, but is that is that what? Yeah, I would right now. Okay. Yeah, I would but like how like what's the green card situation? What are we doing here? It's love but also am I being bought I was just like, okay But yeah, no, I think that like there's enough within the culture But also at the same time I think that it would also be a lot of me like it'd be very wrong comm ask as a relationship Where I'm teaching a lot about America and Philippines, you know, if Netflix wants to throw me a show about this I'll do this Really would like to see manga in a saw which is Jollibee's owned other like chicken and rice chain Make it to the US, but they're gonna not have to call it manga in a saw They're probably have to call it like Manila chicken or something. Yeah. Yeah, you gotta you gotta change I think that that could be a good they could be with the garlic rice and then they're just a chicken thigh Marcus, I don't know if you knew this but a Filipino food sometimes gets a bad rep kind of based off How it looks or like how texture? Yeah, and like, you know, there's it's not the top Sorry to break the news. It's not the top Asian food, but what are What are the the tie is killing I don't even know if Chinese is I Maybe but um What are the top Filipino dishes that that you think could cross over more into America that could be more popular in America? Like we know Lumpia is good. Yeah Let Sean I mean roast pig. No one hates on roast pig But except the biggest like everybody everybody eats roast pig, but I would say Lumpia's are a superior egg roll I'll give you that but like what else I'd say Palau book which is it and it's not Filipino spaghetti. There's a big difference It has like as texture as crunch. It has seafood and chicken I think that's another weird combination because as soon as you start mixing the meats people freak out about that I'd say yeah, Palau book definitely up there Would you get a Jollibee's? Yeah Yeah, can allow which if this is for like the pickled people because this is coconut vinegar and everything like that Can allow it with seafood like that's like a ceviche that should cross over for sure And then even like just Filipino paella because I'm like again Spanish influence. I'm like it's there But just like no, we want real paella. I'm like, okay. Have you tried this paella? So Filipino paella, or is it fire? sweet swap out That's actually yeah fire. Yeah, we just mispronounced it Last but not least I got to break down, you know, I had to say this And we were supposed to do a video with AJ Raphael years ago called the five or seven types of Filipinos But then we're gonna need to do it for like every race So we ended up not doing it because I didn't know how people were gonna take it I had to think of archetypes or all these different things and so things What are the different commonly seen archetypes of Filipino Americans? I just starting off the one off the top of my head. I got dancer the choreo dancer Maybe b-boy. I know the b-boy crowd. They don't like the choreo crowd the choreo crowd They don't you know what I mean, right? We got them Brian Puspos is and like everyone is a jabba walkie majority of the jabba walkies are Filipino Those mask off flat noses But um, yeah, that's definitely up there for the hip-hop one. I definitely have also Played in that role for sure. And that's also you know how to b-boy or do choreo. Yeah, I used to yeah I'm like, I'm I'm I'm gonna evolve into like one of the older Filipinas Yeah, I feel like a lot of hoopers at least amongst the guys a lot of guys who play basketball Pretty a lot of hours a week. Yeah, there are I've never seen more jerseys of Kobe than in the Philippines and same thing with LeBron But it's mostly Kobe in LA. They're all LA Lakers fans. Um hype beast. Yep. The hype is for sure man Definitely in like shoes. It's always gonna be a flex. I'll say this it We're just like time out the younger Filipinos older Filipinos the Tito's their hype is essentially you never see like the brand flex More than those ladies But instead of like ALD it's like what why oh, yeah YSL The Christian guy. Yep, the Christian guy the guy and this also crosses over with singing Filipinos because they got good somewhere And it was the choir Would you say the singing choir church Filipinos are even generally speak to Golic better too Yeah, they do because they have to learn they also don't learn the the Tagalog songs for like the choir Yeah, yeah, I feel like that there tend to be a little bit more Filipino. Yeah, yeah for sure Like but that's like that's like the out like it's like oh, can can you dance? No, I can sing my way into God's Like heaven, but also pain like that's it. That's like the vibe Oh, I remember I was in LA and you'd be at a restaurant and then during like Some to like a Filipino with a guitar and a Filipino singer would walk into even a Mexican restaurant Yeah, start singing all different types of songs, but even Feliz Navidad in Spanish But they'd be Filipino and they were just spreading the the gospel in the holiday cheers Yeah, it's it's more approachable than like do you have a moment to speak to Jesus and I'll sing I got a group I got the old-school hip-hop Tito who he used to DJ maybe DJ the wedding maybe DJ'd for Snoop Dogg Warren G He might have a graffiti book. He probably can MC a little bit do some running and he definitely is like the leader of the one Headphone on one headphone off constantly talking Well, I don't want to forget about this Filipino the nerdy geek Filipino that is more like Anime for like the Comic-Con Filipino like when I went to Comic-Con and even I've been to anime con believe it or not And there were so many more Filipinos than I thought like they just like Filipinos are in the subculture Like hey, like these were some collectors you may be I'm not a collector, but I get it I get it But also I think that's its own brand flex because I'm like yo, I got the official Yu-Gi-Oh look I got the I got the Pokemon first edition. It's one of 400 Now by I also I also see the nerdy Filipinos that's definitely that's definitely up there We see you guys and thank you for making white women accept us easier Is there any other ones that we're leaving out like cuz you even have some different archetypes within your own family, right? Yeah, yeah, I'd definitely say within the Filipino community like right now We have like the ones who don't claim that they're good at singing or dancing sort of reject Yeah, macro stereotype or they're the ones that just sort of like hey I know that this is like a big thing of our culture, but I can't like fulfill it They're like the elves who can't make toys. They're just like they're part of it I'm not singing Mariah Carey at like and everybody else like karaoke. Yeah. Yeah, and it's it's it's unfortunate But it's it's like, you know, they're still there good for a good vibe and also Filipinos who can't cook Those are the big three that are being like kind of like we're like support groups are being started because I'm like I'm supposed to be good at one of them, but I'm not good at one of them. I'm like, alright But I think that they're like no matter what as long as like you're happy to be like within the company of Filipinos But also at the same time being a person who just Includes everyone. I think that's also another thing of Filipino culture is just hospitality because even though these are separate groups Every group kind of like will try to like expand to like include everyone. I would agree with that. It's not like this group It's like, oh, I'm the hip-hop Filipino. Oh, you're the guitar Filipino. We're beefing. 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