 It's a unique hustle, big shit, big shit, big shit, it's a unique hustle nigga, big shit, big shit, big shit, big shit, name another podcast like this. Check it, check it, check it, this is Unique Hustler, it's your boy, E-C-E-O, and I'm here with the lovely, amazing official, Mr. Jamaica, what's going on? None of them down? Hey, man, hey, we back again, man. I got my guy here today, y'all. I feel real good. He been making moves when he left. I thought, I was like, man, maybe he going to chill. I don't even know if he knew that other was going to happen, stuff just fall in your lap sometimes. It's going to fall. Check it, man, Mr. Lee is in the building. What do you do? Man, how you doing, man? Chillin, chillin, man, bless to be here. Man, I'm glad you came, bro. Like, what up, man? You know, where we want to start with Mr. Lee, man? Mr. Lee is a guy who basically, you know, when I think of you, I just feel like, man, you done did everything that a man could do when it comes to producing, to be honest with you. Pretty much, man, pretty much. Like, when that, I seen, I seen when you, when the Drake thing happened, did you even have an idea that was going to happen? I did. You knew it? I knew it for like six months. I never said nothing, though. Man, how did you keep that in? How do you contain that? Just contain it, man. I ain't want, you know, I ain't want to get no unnecessary hate, so I just let it stay. But you know that hate coming, right? No, it's going to come. I knew that I told last night, was it last night? Oh, other night before that, I told Carl Crawford, I say, the hate come with being a boss. No, you're going to get a taste. Yeah, they coming at you. Yeah. No, but I would think that when you've been in the business so long, you don't really get it anymore. You get used to it, huh? No, you don't get it. I mean, when you, if you in the trenches and you never get out and you trying to, you know, help everybody and you doing different shit and you just in that position, then it's easy to get that. Unless you're just going and just getting the clouds, don't look back now. Don't look back now. Man, the hate, the hate is real. Yeah. But I think it's needed. It's motivating. Mm-hmm. I mean, it makes you, it makes you go harder. For me, when I, when you hate, I'm gonna, I'm a couple. If you that person, but some people, they fold on that. Oh, no, that's when you, that's when you know you're doing it right, right, Mr. Lee? Yeah. So, man, I mean, so you knew six months before. Um, so how do the, how's that process? Let me be a little nosy. How does that process go? I know they have to clear it and all that good stuff, but how does that go? I mean, basically I got an email and they said, uh, Drake wanted to use a record and it was an instrumental that I had done and, you know, they put all of the details in and it was to get through all. And the first one I looked at, I was like, uh, what? I looked at it again. I said, is it a mixtape? It's like, no, it's the album. I said, oh, wow. So then, you know what I mean? It is like, uh, we could zoom you in so you can check it out. And, you know, I ended up doing the zoom and listening to the record and I went in and signed off on it and approved it. That's big dog. See that right there? That's big dog. Ain't nobody just doing that, Mr. Lee. I hope you know that. You sitting back calm about it. They gonna please me. They gonna call me out of the top. Out of the top. You first. Baby, guess what? Uh, it's going down. You know, we, yeah, I gotta, but yeah, no, I wouldn't have been there. You, you, you dope, man. I like that. You know, they come with time, man. You know, when you did 30 years on anything, it's like riding bikes now. Yeah. Yeah. Um, was it just an automatic yes or would have been some stipulations? Like if he did something that you didn't like. I mean, it's Drake. Okay. I mean, Drake. Automatic yes. Drake already, he makes tasteful music. You know what I mean? It ain't really nothing negative. You could say about Drake. Right. You know what I mean? So the opportunity was there. I got a number one album out of it, platinum album out of it. So, you know what I mean? It's, it's beneficial for me in my career and just something else I could say, Hey, you know what? I'm out Rushmore artists that I'm associated with. So, you know, it was a blessing. So, man, when you think about the first one that you got, which was, what was the first platinum one that go with platinum for you? Um, I think it was, um, my homies. My homies. Okay. The reaction to that one to this one is a mature reaction. Yeah. The first one you was like, yeah. When you've done it 31 times. 31 times. Yeah. You ain't nothing else to talk about. 31 times. 31 times. Encounting. Encounting. Yeah. And that's, and you never know what's going to happen next. And then you work with all the greats. So, man, that's just, I mean, you couldn't write this. And are you writing a book about it or? No, not, not yet. You know what I mean? Don't get ready to do a lot of content because, you know, I think some recent events are making me aware that I think, um, the way business is being held is a little lopsided. Yeah. And you know what I mean? Being that I'm, I've been in it so long, you know, I have a voice. So I'm getting ready to start releasing a bunch of content to try to make it aware to these kids. It's not even doing this business that you have a voice. You have a position to play and you have negotiation room and doing business. And you need to know what that is. And we said recent events. Can you elaborate a little bit about it? I ain't going to elaborate. Not too much, but just a little bit. Just a little bit. I always got something going that he can't. I really talk about. Do you notice that? Hey, man, that's dope though. I like it. But I mean, under put it to you like this, I think other producers are not really getting in, getting the business that they need to be getting. And you know, I'm going to say something that may somebody, people may disagree. They might agree. It don't matter. I mean, you're hearing this. It's the time now where artists like, I want to, I want to own my masters. I want this and that. You know what I mean? Ray Charles and James Brown, they've been doing that for years. But the difference between James Brown and Ray Charles is that they were producers too. So it wasn't another entity in that, that was creating these masters. And I feel as a producer, it's like you always get a producer deck. And the first thing in the producer deck, you get through the terms. And then the next thing you're talking about is the work for hire for that master, which is signing all of the rights over to that master away. It has to be paperwork to be established to give those rights away. They're not automatically given away because you own those rights. Okay. But the paperwork, everybody's used to having the paperwork and saying, oh, okay, well, I'm just going to sign this. And it's not work for hire. I'm doing work for hire just to work for hire the master. So I'm not owning the master. In some cases, the composition, which is the music by itself can be included in that work find you don't have no rights to none of it. It just depends on what type of terms you're looking at. And I think that a lot of these kids and a lot of younger people that's doing production and they don't understand that part. They think it's a normal. When you could do something wrong so long, then it becomes the right thing. That's true. You know what I mean? So it's way too lopsided. And I think for me, I know that it is and I've experienced some of it. And I don't think that I could sit around and know that and not try to educate kids about it. I mean, it's not trying to throw a rock at nobody and none of that. It's just, hey, let's make the food chain equal. Yeah. Other people that's collaborating with it. In what way are you trying to give this education? You're going to do seminars? Are you doing just videos and putting it out there? I'm going to do a lot of videos and just encourage people to make sure that you have an attorney and a good attorney. An attorney that's going to work for you, not an attorney that's going to take your money and tell you what they think. You need somebody that's going to actually sit in here and look at the benefits of what you're trying to do in order to move forward and make decisions. And will this be a platform that they can go to freely or will they have to pay to get to this platform to see those videos? I'm just going to give it to them. I don't want to charge nobody for it. But I think that a lot of people will be scared to get black balled or be the bad guy. We're not going to work with him because he's negotiating too hard. My philosophy has always been I could be broke easily by just sitting on my ass. I don't want to bust my ass and be broke. Agree. You know what I mean? If I do one or two and I get the terms that I want, then I'm good. Because at the end of the day, if you don't own no type of percentages in anything, and I'm not talking about publishing just all the way around, when you get my age, then the passive income is not coming. I've been working so hard and doing so many things until now. Everything that I've done 10, 15 years ago is starting to come back into fruition and people starting to use that music. And on top of that, I'm still curing myself. So you know what I mean? You're killing it. Yeah, it's just a blessed situation to be in. But if you don't position yourself, then there's no way that you can continue to exist. And I've seen so many people that were super crazy talented and they just lost the way because they couldn't financially stay afloat doing the things they were doing. Right. And they had the talent to do it, but the business sense is not there. And just the whole thing of feeling like, oh, if I stand up for myself, if I do this, then nobody's gonna... And being led astray by other people trying to tell you what to do and really don't have the education to be able to tell you. I just... You platinum 31 times? I know, that's the longest you've made. Yeah, because, well, I look at people like DJ Chos, he was on here with Black Card. And I didn't know that he was platinum like he was, but not 31 times, but he did a lot. But a lot of times like, man, he underrated. But if he underrated, you hell underrated. You see what I'm saying? I'm underrated, but I'm cool, though. That's what I'm saying. So I'm just... But you're underrated, but it doesn't matter. But when you're younger, it matters. Not really. Not really. When you're a young man and you're trying to... It's business, everybody makes that something that needs to be, you know, make visuality and making music. People are making that a requirement, it's not. Okay. If you're in the business and people are getting music from you and they're doing, you know, and you got a rapport with that, the work is gonna keep coming. You don't have to be a celebrity to make money. I get it. As long as the money is coming in, that's what I would think. As long as the money is coming in and you're paying your bills, you're saving, you're investing, you're doing all of that, it doesn't really matter about the recognition part. Whoever is supposed to know will know because they'll do their research to know. You know what I mean? That's what I'm thinking. That's what it is. Yeah, but, man, when you're young, man... Come on, man. I was 23 years old. The young Mr. Lee is the same as... No, not today. That's a different Mr. Lee. Bro, I was 23 years old. I built a 7,000 square foot house from the ground. Man. Nobody knew who the hell I was. That's crazy. But I was making $100,000 a month. Nobody knew who you were. Nobody knew. Dang. Well, it's a special kind of person to do that. Everybody not like that. I see it on the internet. I know. It can be. Right now, everybody wants to be seen Mr. Lee in a way to where they get their recognition, why they hear like, we want some roses. Majority of people, majority, you have some people who like to stay on the radar. But majority of people, I think that has to do with social media. Social media, make it where a lot more people try to be out in the open and want to be seen because that's how they stay relevant too and keep those dollars coming in. Yeah. Black card, he really, really, he respects you. Yeah, he loved, he loved what you know, you like the mentor, you know, like, you help these guys, man. These guys that always come through here and when I told Sergeant J, they're like, man, that's live, man. I wish I could have, but he wanted to be here. Yeah. You know, like just to hear your voice and talk to you, it's a lot of guys that's out there. And he's another talented guy, you know what I mean? Sergeant J, yeah, he really like you. Like last time you was here, I think I told him I was going to call him and I didn't get to call him. It was like, I wanted to make that, you know, because you never met him, right? No. See, and he was like, man, and he stayed in that studio like all day all night, all day all night and very humble. Right. You know, he like you. That's where it's at. I mean, you don't have to do all the theatrics to make money. Yeah. Yeah. People make things normal, that's not normal. Yeah. You know, and they don't, people like me, I'm an OG, so I've made so many mistakes in this shit. I made bad decisions. I've did a lot of shit. You know what I mean? I'm not perfect. So I'm not going to ever present myself that way. I don't, I don't have animosity with people that I have bad business with or if things taking place and I didn't like it. I'm a type of person, you know what, you might be able to do one thing for me that can catapult me in a position that I was trying to get to and I just needed that one little thing that you can do. So I've never been that person to do that type of stuff but as an OG it's for me to say, you know what, yeah, this is what I did, it was wrong, I shouldn't have did this. Don't do what I did. Yeah. Be better. Yeah. Be better than me and underneath me. Yeah, yeah. I never do because to me I feel like nobody can do Mr. League better than Mr. League. No. Exactly. Man, even on how did that crown, what was that last when we was a GMT and then we we hadn't really just have 11 came out. Yeah, 11 out. I got to check it out. Man, you're crazy with them. I'll be sitting back just like, that's Mr. League something else. You're dropping them projects so quick. Those projects are like eight years old, 12 years old. Really? That's why he can drop it so quick. But he, you know, I mean, he's the perfect person. Yeah. And I don't think it's not a track that I can build that Aldi can't wrap on. What makes him different? Like, what makes him this, this guy who's so productive, like, that can just produce like that? What, what, what does that love do that you have? It, it translates to other people. Yeah. You know, it makes people want to get in and trenches with you and dig in. When you hear something, when he's rapping, you can feel every emotion. I believe it. Yeah. And him being so talented as he is, how comes he hasn't blown as he should have? I mean, I think he's in the position that he need to be in right now. Yeah, that's a good question. To me, that's what I think. Yeah. We debate about it all the time. Hey man, we have a real debate. He love it. He love it. I do the same thing with it. I just feel like he's doing something that's so special until he, it's normal for him, but it's not really normal. Yeah. Yeah. And you have to always just walk through that process until you get all the way to the end of it and then when it's time to cross over to something else, the timing is going to tell you when it is. Wow. Man, I sit back and look at what you've done and look at what he's doing together. I played it for a couple of hours. I thought they were rapping at first until I put that on. When I put that on, that's the one I said, look, man, when I put this on, I'm letting y'all know, y'all, Texas, hey, we got something going here. And I don't know if y'all already even know. Yeah. I heard what you got. I heard what you got. Not you too. But listen at this, you know, that combination is serious. You know what I mean? Yeah. Man, it's one, on that crown number 10, it was, it was just, it was like a church song vibe on the first song, I believe. That's my favorite song in the first song. And I asked him, I said, man, how did y'all, how did y'all come up with that? You know? I just made the beat and I sent it to him. You know what I mean? I love sending tracks to this dude because he'd be so excited about it. Yeah. You know what I mean? And it's just, for me, that is the most important thing that he can give me. I don't, the money, I ain't trippin' about that money, man. You make me happy to be a producer when I'm doing music with y'all. Y'all both just dope, man, and the relationship that you guys have. Yeah. It's uncommon. Like, have there been anybody else that was so easy for you to work with like that? Nipsey was. Nipsey was like that. Yeah. Nipsey was like that. Pimpsy was like that. Scarface was, he's like that, but he's more of a, Scarface was more of a mentor for me. He was a, he was a person that could challenge me better than, than I, than I thought I was. How, how so though? How, how, what did he do to make you feel that way? He wouldn't, he wouldn't accept me being good. He wouldn't accept nothing that was good coming from me. If it was good, it wouldn't enough. So he would, he would push back. He would push. Hey man, this is dope. I mean, one time bro, we was in, we was at the Enterprise studio was working on Last of the Dying Breathe facing went to Atlanta and he came back and we had this song too. It was jamming on us. And this nigga came in the studio, bro. It got, walked on the board and pulled all the faders down. Really? He didn't even want to hear it. Like man, do that shit again. That ain't it. Because you know you can do better. Yeah. We was pissed off and man, we wanted the gang back in the neighborhood. She got down. I said, this motherfucker, man, you really did this shit, bro. Just came in and shh. Like whatever. Yeah. Yeah. So man, that's good. That right there motivates you. See again, another way to push you. Yeah. I guarantee he doesn't do that every single time. No, but I mean, you just not going to you can't be around that dude and be average and be good because he ain't gonna fuck with that. He never did a bad verse. He's not ever going to do it, bro. He never did a bad verse. If that song don't have a vibe, man, we've done beats four or five times but it wasn't there. It was dope to us. Yeah. And to the average listener if they hear today is dope. But that just wasn't the details of everything that he wanted to feel out of that track. If it wasn't there, it wasn't going. I don't care if it's one little bitty thing. If it ain't there, it ain't going. And that's the funny thing, sorry, but in any business that you're in, it's like you know what you're looking for. Like a regular person listening to it wouldn't know all the details. Wouldn't even hear all the details whenever it come across but we only hear what he's saying and that's it. So all of the fine tune that he's doing, we're not hearing it, but industrial people, they're hearing it. People have the air for it and stuff like that and they know, man, he's a genius. Yeah. But how, but which song sticks out to you the most with Scarface that you done? Which one sticks out the most? Man, it was one called In and Out that we did with Devin on it and it was man, it was so many. It was another record that we did. I think it had a red man on it. Okay. That was real dope. Yeah. Looked in my eyes was another one. Yeah, that was, that's a bad boy there. That's a dope record. You know what I'm saying? Like, he even with that record he wanted, he challenged us to do the record. So he pushed you to get to that point where you were at. Yeah. And that was kind of, maybe Pimp. Pimp kind of was like that, you know, as soon as Pimp hit a record, if it's the one he going to go, if it ain't, he ain't. He ain't even going to rap. I'm not touching it. When is the time that you've seen that happen? I mean, I was been in the studio with him before he listened to the track and even with me when I first met him, I was working on the track, and everything. So I started the track off and he was feeling the way I was starting it off and he looked at his face and he was like, man, what is this nigga doing, bro? This is like, just chill out, just watch. He going to come over with it. Just wait. Yeah. And, you know, I came over and after the session was over, we talked and he was like, man, you dope. Yeah. Dope, man, you know what I mean? We've been friends ever since. But at first initial meet, you got to, you think this boy hard? Yeah. So, you know what I mean? I always like to be pushed by people. A new artist can come in the studio and work with me and tell me, hey, man, I think we can do it better. And I'm going to go and try to do it better. Yeah. I like vibe like that. I don't like a yes man around me. I don't like people that's not going to push me creatively. Well, you should love LD. Let me just say that. Some people like you would, and not saying you would, but some people in Caliber would say, you know, like, who are you to tell me? Because you've been doing this so long. Yeah. A lot of people like that. Don't get it wrong. If I'm thinking if I'm convicted with something that I think is dope and you're not following what I'm telling you, then yeah, you might get that. You know who I am, right? Yes. True. You got to trust. You know, you see all of this shit I got right. So you need to trust my ear. Because sometimes I just get ahead of time on things and people not in pocket to receive what it is. And you've had, you've had those cases come on across. Yeah, all the time. It's records that I've done four or five years and present times comes up five years later and the record's out and it's right in with the time. Is that why people hold back records so long? Sometimes they'll do just like you said with LD. He did it eight years ago and so forth and he's just now releasing it. No, it's his beat. But you're beat. Your tracks. But you know how sometimes you have it holding and I hear people say that all the time or people come in and say well I did a feature with XYZ but they haven't released it and they've been holding on to it. Yeah. Get Throw was like that. Get Throw was a three-year-old record before it got released. Is it because it just wasn't that time? I just see that. I think people are timid to explore things when they're new. You know, if you look at Get Throw, Get Throw was a rock guitar rock track. You know what I'm saying? So you're looking at a rock guitar and 808s and different other things going on that probably wasn't really being done at that time. So you know, certain people just, they won't get it right in there so they'll sit on it because they don't really understand the trend. They may not want to be the first person to go out there with it. Wow. So when Drake took it and slowed it down what was that all about? Just the feel man. He had to put his feel to it. That was his feel. Yeah. So and he already, you know, him and Lil Jay and them, they already, you know, they moved together already. So that was easy for you because that was family. See, I'm just looking at it from a point where I know it's a family or any deal because you got history. You know, you guys been working together you and Lil Jay and them for forever. Oh yeah. Without Jay Prince and Rappel, that is no Mr. Lee. That's right. So that was a no brainer and I know Jay Prince had to feel away when he's seen that because that's a connection. Yeah. I mean, it just, it just goes back to great things that we did. You know, Rappel life. Yeah. We did a lot of great things and I think a lot of things go unsaid and unheard when it comes to that. But you know, I mean, we did a lot of great things in Rappel life. What was, what was, when Jay Prince would get on the track and he'd say, oh yeah, you know, what, what, where did that come from? Do you remember the first time when this first start to happen? He had been doing that shit way before I got there. Oh really? You got there? Yeah, that's his calling card. Man, don't forget me a bang out the ghetto boys. You gonna get something, you know what I mean? That all year it comes with a lot of things behind it. Oh yeah. You don't know where you might get a check, you might get a check. You might get a check. Get checked out. Shit, you don't know what's coming behind that all year, but that's his trademark. You know what I'm saying? I used to, I used to crack up with dudes sometimes talking about that. I would come around and mimic him and shit when he used to do that. But you know what I mean? That's his thing. It's all year he's the only person that can pull it off. Man, did you sort of respect the book? Have you read it? I've read some parts of it. You like, when you steal them through, you know what? I've been on the audio part of it more than anything. Yeah, that's me. I do the same thing. I ain't gonna lie for some reason on it, but it kind of make you lazier. Yeah, but I'm born not dyslexic, so I can't read it. Okay, yeah, so just sitting there meditating on it, you gonna be like, you're frustrated and just... I'm coming to stick out with you and Jay Prince that you remember like, wow, man. I mean the very first time I seen him. You know what I mean? I was in the compound working in the studio that a big chief had set up for me and he had some speakers and all of that shit and I was in that vibing. You know what I mean? I was doing my thing and all of a sudden I seen somebody open the door and he's like, hey man, can you cut that music down a little bit? I'm like, yeah, I cut the music down and by the time he walked away and I thought about it, I said, fuck, you know what I mean? So that's the first time that I met him and then, you know, we had a couple of situations where he entrusted me to work at his studios and pretty much run him, had a conversation with me and asked me, you know, could I come in and do the work and all of that stuff and he entrusted me with it. You know what I'm saying? So he's always been a person to look at the drive that you got and he, you know, he appoints people in the positions that he think they can handle and deserve. I mean, and I was blessed to be in a situation where I was just around everything and they trusted me to perform in a certain manner and I did it every single time. Yeah, and to be able to be entrusted like that and to be in that, because in the moment you don't know, you sometimes can't see the picture from being in the picture. In the moment, you just going through the process of the work but the demeanor of you and him, for me, I understand management. Yeah. So I understand it's a good trait to have the way y'all demeanor is dealing with people. I'm more outgoing. Like I get frustrated fast and I might cut you out. That's not good. You know what I'm saying? But I've learned over the years to control that dealing with the people that I've dealt with to be in the positions in places that I am. So I get it. I understand it. But then I'll be like, nah, I want to push the buck. You know, I cut up a little bit. I'll be trying to pull it back. Yeah. But the demeanor of to be humble and to be conservative comes off better when you're dealing with a lot of people. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I like that. I like that. But I still like to push a little bit. You know what I'm trying to do? So what's next for Mr. Lee? Like, I want to talk about Slim too. Slim, the way you guys came together and start processing things, you know, because y'all did some work together too. What was that like? I mean, Slim was a person that was emerging and he was about to get his major deal when the man who hooked up, we had did a record with a little Kiki and Slim called a big unit. Okay. And once that transpired, then I mean, we just came became a team. Yeah. I mean, and me and his brother, Rayface, we were all tight. You know, we were still tight. Yeah. And we just, we meshed together, man. We started a whole movement. That was really when my sound really became a sound when I started working with Slim. Yeah. So you, you was working with Slim to you. That's just another phase of Mr. Lee. It was already a sound to us. It was a Texas sound that came with that Slim Thug and Kiki with the records that I started doing, the sounds that people are using. That was, you know, I pretty much that's where that's when it started taking place. That's when I really just stood up and emerged as as Mr. Lee got to remember when I was a rapper like I was being mentored by Enno Joe, Mike Dean, John Beto. It was great, motherfuckers around me every day. Yeah. Yeah. Killer Collion was there during that time, too. Killer Collion was part of the stuff with the outside. Yeah, that's right. And J-Dog, did you get to work with J-Dog? Yeah. Riding on foes. That's my record. That damn J-Dog. J-Dog the truth, man. That didn't play. No game, boy. He was, he just had a way that he came across that made you feel the streets. Things don't realize that. So I loved the way that them boys never forget those times, man. Those are staples in time. And I think that's something that we, you know, as people who consume the music, we have to, we have to hold on to that. You know what I'm saying? I can go put something in like you done already made and it taking me back to a place. That's what, the consumer, that's how I feel about it. You know what I'm saying? To a specific moment. You know what I'm saying in time. So. You always ended up in the right place the right time to work with the right set of people, it seems. How does that happen? God's plan. It ain't about me. It's God's plan. I did ten years on the run making platinum records. That's great. Year after year. You know what I mean? So again, you know what I mean? All of my imperfections and everything that I go through and done and haven't done. You know, it's destiny is destiny. You know what I mean? You can't stop that from happening. And you work with anybody that don't have to be like big artists? No. Yeah. Do you feel like Mr. Lee is where he's supposed to be? Yeah. I can see it. I mean, it's just dope to see you in this place, man. I wish for everybody who in music to be able to get and accomplish to be where you're at. You know what I'm saying? Because I think that would be a great fulfillment for anybody that's producing or doing music, you know? How did you end up like, you work with zero and you work with slim? I know at first they had differences because Pimp put it out there, you know, and everybody knew about it. How did you end up working with both of those guys? Or was it during that time? It was right after. You know what I mean? Everybody grown men. You know, if we have problems and we have disagreements, but you know what? We always seem to turn things around and we always work it out. That's what it takes. A short amount of time, a long amount of time, whatever it is. I mean, when you are maturing, then you understand that. You know what? I mean, I can't even iron these differences out. I can play my position to this point. If I'm going to have a point where I'm going to stop and not be involved in different things or whatever it is, you know, we always been able to sit down and really just iron things out, you know what I mean? Or work through things and find out where whatever it's going to be. It always end up in a positive motion. You know what I'm saying? So it was always a beautiful thing when they did get back together. They started on records. We used to get back together. They were there when they got together. It was a job. And I knew that. So what sticks out about Zero? And I have to ask you that like when you was working with him? I mean, Zero, a lot of people don't know Zero's a producer and a singer and a rapper. I believe. And I can tell that. So when you're looking at all three of those things, Zero don't really need nobody to do no records. He can do it all. He's super talented. He's crazy talented to the point that I think he doesn't get enough credit for the talent that he has. I don't think that he gets enough credit for the groundbreaking things that he do. When you listen to new artists like Larry June, you hear Zero in there. Yeah. But Zero, Zero kind of built it that way. It seemed like even Jay Prince, I mean, it seemed like it was built almost in a Celtic fashion. I'm being real when I'm on the outside looking in. And I'm saying when I seen Zero into this day, when I think about Zero, I think Zero is one of the dopest artists, but I think he got his own people. I think he know it. You see what I'm saying? Like the way they built him up. Yeah, he know that. But, you know, I mean, he can stretch out as far as he want. You know what I mean? When you got a comfort zone like that, and it's that consistent, there's nothing really to talk about. That's part of some of the things that I be expressing the ideas like, look, you can't look at the masses. You got to look at the numbers. Yeah. When I mean numbers, look at the money. Yeah. And look at the consistency of the people that are dealing with you and that are supporting you. That's dope. And that's how you do it. Who would you like to work with? Other than all, other than people you've already He's worked with so many. You know, you don't have nobody out there that you're like, I could work with him. I'm good. You just done it. But you got to think about it. Everybody who we've asked that question here on this platform, who everybody said. Drake. And. He already. I just got a record with the baby and Buster Rhymes and T-Pain. Did you? Yeah, and it's going to come out later this year. And it's going to come out with one of them situations. It's just. Wow. You said the baby Buster Rhymes and T-Pain. Yeah. Man. So people, people already know what it is when they see the tracks and the way that you come in with it. You can suppress it, man. You know, I mean, I could do all of the, all of the promotion, all of the social media, Java and all of that. I can do all of that. But at the end of the day, man, the talent going to stick out regardless. Yeah. I mean, I'm 30 years, man. 30. 30. Who have you really got a black car? Steve Oh, I know you work with him, but producer wise younger guys who have you kind of, you know, helped to, to understand the music. I really can't say that I've done that. But I think indirectly, if I've, I've touched a lot of people, you know, because I'm a loner. I like to, when I'm in the studio, I'm working. I'm not, I'm not, you know, really going to get in the studio with a bunch of people to do everything. So I never, you know, never look at it to like, okay, this is a person that I did, but I know that I've influenced a ton of people in and outside of the south and Texas and everywhere else. I've influenced people all overseas and everywhere. Yeah. Yeah. That's why I can't wait for you to drop these tips that you're about to do, to educate because you're going to touch so many more people. Yeah. Yeah. I'd be to breakfast, man. What's going on? We're getting ready to give you back up. That's what I was saying. You kind of them pulled up for the holiday. I'm rebranded. I think you pulled up for the holiday. You know what? It wasn't good enough for me. Really? No. It was dope. It wasn't good enough for me. I stopped. I was like, this is not what I want. I want it to be better than this. So can you give us insight on what you're going to do to make it better? Some of the content that I'm talking about, the tips that giving people tips, I'm going to do some viral video stuff, some interviewing. Okay. And different things like that and really brand it out. So you're going to set it up to where it can be. I've seen the, I think it was the ATM mini. You got the same thing I got. I got one in there. Yeah. I said, man, he working. Oh yeah. I got to have it. You not using it? I don't even use it. I mean, with the little control on the phone and everything, I'm switching back and forth from taking the camera. Yeah. All of that. I got to get used to that. It's just dope. I'll be just, I don't want to mess nothing up. I know you can drop all the Lord thirds and do all the stuff. Everything. But I just, I don't know. I get set in my ways. And that's why I feel like I feel like I needed to fall back because I wanted to be able to fully use all of the everything that I have in my possession. Yeah. What I'm doing good. You know, really trying to have it out of being great on everything that I do. That's what I want. That's dope. That's what you're supposed to. Right. I think when I talked to, was it, who was it? It was that old boy. And look, what's it? Rick Ross. Freeway Rick Ross. He was like, his secret is to go get the best people to work with so he can be the best. Yeah. I don't forget that. Like that's what he seek out because you can't do everything yourself and you can't know everything yourself. So he search out the people with the knowledge to know what he needs to know and put them in place to make himself great. Yeah. So you're interested in a documentary or do you? I've got one. I've won an award on my first documentary that I ever shot. I shot it in 2019, but I decided to add some more parts to it. I guess I need to look it up and do it. Where is it? I don't even, I haven't even put it out yet. Aw, man. That sucks, man. And that's a documentary on your life? Yeah. That's, I need that. There's so much that I didn't get the chance to go into the details in one hour. So now we're going to do like four more. So we're looking at about five to six part series. Yeah. And this is a lot of deep stuff. You know what I mean? So I'm going to go into detail on that. How are you, how are you? Can you film it yourself? Yeah, that's what I was asking. I have one solace is doing a lot of the filming. You know, shout out to him. He really taught me a lot of things. I started editing my own stuff. Yeah. You know what I mean? I learned a lot of things from them. So and then I just, I'm a TV junkie. So I've been watching a lot of things. Yeah. Especially when you watch documentaries to see exactly how they do. It's like, you start to be interested in it. And then you start to look at them like, okay, they messed up on that. No matter how big that documentary could be. Yeah. Like, no, I saw that mistake. Yeah. Yeah. You start to pick up. So you really pick you anyway because I can tell just by the conversation and the music. Yeah. It's very detailed and we ain't making no mistakes here. So we got to try to keep doing it and then you just revamping the beats for breakfast. So at the end of the day we see a lot of critiquing going on here. How deep in a documentary did you go? Like, did you do like a lot of interviews of past acquaintances and family members and all that? Yeah, it's great. We didn't go too, too deep. The crazy thing about it is the day after Nip got killed I started filming. So they caught all of that emotions and, you know, it's real super fresh. Yeah. So we went through that. We started out with that. Then we went back into where I started it. I started in the church where I played at. Yeah. I started doing some film in there. Chronicology and right through the lines of everything that we were doing. So, man, I'm just, once I looked at it I could look at it every day. It's so... Emotional. Fluid and entertaining. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until, you know what I mean, it was a really dope situation and we went in and we submitted it to this film festival in LA. And they loved it. Wow. Wow. Before anybody could even see it. I know. Anybody see it. But he won. It's dope. How long? Because you say you have to break it up. But how long is it now if you had to put it all in one? It's an hour. And then with other parts if I was to do kind of everything else it would be about six to seven hours. Wow. That's... Because, you know, we're on the cover being on the run, cover when I was a Rappelack, cover when I started with Slim Thug. And then it ended with the current stuff. Yeah. You know, so you're talking about 30 years. 30 years, man. That's a long time. If you ever had to do to play your role. Oh, if you had to. Yeah. I don't know. We're actually doing a TV show on my life now. It's called PWA. Okay. What does PWA stands for? Well, it stands for Yeah. Because he did that too. Yeah. So, you know what I mean? That would be a dope show. Yeah. It's going to be about my life, about my business on the run. That's dope, man. All of that kind of stuff. So we basing it off of that. And we developing that right now. I got an adult team that I'm working with. Shout out to Ivy and Carmen and everybody else that's working with me. We've been developing and getting ready for this. So it's going to be something major. You have a lot of projects doing all at one time. Yeah. Yeah. How are you able to do all of these? Manage everything. Right. You know what? I want to own my stuff. So I want to be heavy on me and not heavy on nobody else. I like it. You know what? I say I got my great grandfather's documentary and movie that we are about to do. I'm actually going to be in San Antonio and I'm going to be great. Okay. I'm going to speak about him inventing the plane and all of that stuff. So, you know, I'm so, man, I'm so, my purpose is so great right now. Man, it's a dope thing that you embrace us like you did, man. I say thank you, man. Yeah. You know, just humbled the fact that you, every time I call you pick up the phone, you're always available for me. That's dope, man. I don't say that. I just call who I call and God give me who He give me. I always say that, you know what I mean? When I look at producers, God might not give me this other one. He gave Mr. Lee and that's dope. And he got 31 platinum. I can strut my stuff. I ain't like Mr. Lee. I can't hold it and contain it. I got to let him know my guy is that guy. Yeah. Get it in. Yeah. Getting it all the way in, man. So, man, we definitely want to share what we got here for you, and we just love you and appreciate you, man. And the thing I wanted to give this to you the first time you was here, but I told you that. Man, I always, people, that's what we came in and do it doing. And it was 15 we gave out. Yes, last year. Yeah. And it was just a dope. Carl just got one. The people who really just stick out to us like, man, we can't see this guy not appreciate him because we are podcast, the whole game for us. Yes. So I'd like to read your award. Okay. We here at Boston would like to present Mr. Lee Roy Williams, AKA Mr. Lee, in recognition of the many years dedicated to the music industry, a legend, record producer, making platinum and gold hits after hits. 2022. Man, I like it, man. That's dope, man. Thank you. Yeah, man. Like I said, the game, that's the game changes that we're able to touch people and we're able to acknowledge them while we're in the game. Yeah. And that's what we wanted to do. I mean, that's what it's all about. Yeah. I mean, the money is money, but the appreciation and the thought is everything. I tell people that all the time. Like I said, you wanted to dope is that sitting in that seat when it comes to what you do, everybody else have to learn, have to have to, you put, you definitely deserve to put a class together to help these youngsters because they need it, man. I want them to, to be able to see the fruit from their labor. You know what I mean? There's a lot of people that got records that's bigger than me, bigger than any record that I've ever done, but the residuals from that work is not matching. It's not matching, is it? And it's a reason for it, but they have to find out why. What happened to the music, man? Where are we at right now? We're just at a show and tell. You know what I mean? It's a show and tell. It's about, you know, it's about social media stuff. It's about social media stuff now. It's about being able to look a certain type of way. You know what I mean? But it's, I'm like, look, man, I do. You know what I mean? My logic of looking at things are so different that maybe it's because I'm older. But you know what I mean? There's a lot of things that I feel like these young people spending money on and blowing money on and they're not, and they're in the moment because I've done it. Man, when I was younger, I found myself looking at what I was doing and I realized like, damn man, I'm walking out of this house. At the time, I was staying in a one bedroom apartment and bro, I was spending like $15,000, $20,000 a day. Wow. Just doing stupid shit, buying jewelry and doing all type of, dude, I was in this apartment driving a 600 Mercedes. Wow. And then, and I was like, man, what am I doing? And I remember that, that night I came home. That I was with you, man. And I just totally reversed that, that thought process and that's when I built my house. At that time, I think I was like 22 years old. Let me ask you something. When you think about that, what you just said, it brought something back to my memory. Like, to see young Dolph when he got killed over at that cookie shop to be in a Lambo or whatever, you know, this nice car and to be in this certain setting just kind of on your own with the rep. How do we, how do we, how do we try to change our younger people thinking when it comes to how they move, man? It's about the energy that you give out. You understand what I'm saying though, right? I totally get it. I mean, sometimes you can be in the hood and not be in the hood. You don't have to be in the hood to be in the hood. You don't have to be there to give to people and facilitate them. You don't have to be there all the time. You know what I mean? You're a regular person. It's just kind of like the Nipsey thing but in a different way. It's the same thing though. You know what I mean? People, we want to think that we can be in our neighborhoods and be safer where we at, where we came from. But that's just the opposite because you got so much, so many people that's looking at you that couldn't get out of that situation and that's hate, resentment, all of these bad energies that are surrounding you and sometimes you are so oblivious to it that you don't even see it. And you feel like, oh, I should have to move this way. This is my hood. But yeah, you got to move that way. It's just, I didn't think about it until I said it. The house similar it is. Because they both were in their own city or own town where people knew them and like I say, when they look at them, you're looking at these people are celebrities, man. Dolph was an independent artist that was a millionaire times over in the neighborhoods still. Yep. Nipsey Hussle was a million times over. A celebrity in the neighborhood. Just there. Yeah. You can't move like that. After you move so far up. You can't. It's just like the president doing his term and then getting out of office and thinking he going to be in a regular crib in the neighborhood with no security. It ain't going to happen. You can't do it. You can't do that. Wow. I mean you got to, once you pray for something and once you strive to be in a certain place, you got to look at what comes with that. You're right. You got to look at that. You got to look at the responsibilities of it. Like for me, I'm just not getting in tune with how I do business now. It's even being honest about how I feel. I used to get on bullshit with motherfuckers when they, if a person did some crazy shit to me, I would just sit and let them do it. And then I'm going to push the button and do what I'm going to do. And when I do what I'm going to do, they're going to be the victim then. You know what I'm saying? But now I'm looking at it like, you know what? It's up front. I'm just going to let you know about this right now. We're going to get past it. That way, it won't be nothing else that shouldn't be done, you know? And I'm understanding that business and personal shit is two lanes. But that works better when you're done. You're supposed to be that way. I've said it in the last interviews here. When I used to do business with Jay and, you know what I mean? Jay was a person that, his family oriented and rappelized. But when it's time to do business, you ain't the homeboy because business comes as you do. You business, business. You know what I'm saying? So I'm going to negotiate what I want. You tell me, we're going to come in the middle of it or if you don't express what you want and you sign whatever you sign, you made that agreement. It wasn't that I say, hey, you need to do this and yada, yada. No, it's business. You sold your hour. Yeah. Pretty much. You sold your hour. But like I said, when I thought about what, and I'm going to touch on the dog thing a little bit more, Dolby. Dolph. Dolby was at his hometown. Dolph was at his hometown. The great, I don't know if you remember him, but he was one that was that in his own hometown. The great who? He had a son. All my life, I hustle just to get that money. It was a guy. He was a, he got killed that. I think it was at the Waffle House. But all these different cases, man, where now you got some that wasn't, but there's a lot of time. Do you think it's better to leave where you from and, or to stay in your own neighborhood but move a certain way? And never go back and visit? Well, you can go visit, but you got to be careful. Yeah, you definitely got to be careful. But I mean, it's just a certain way you move. If you're a millionaire, you can't live amongst poverty-stricken people. That's right. How? You can't. You can't be in a, in a place and, uh, you riding around in a $200,000 car and a person is striving and struggling, trying to get in a $5,000, $10,000 car. You can't, you can't surround yourself with that type of, in that type of situations, because it's a lot of things that's going to come with that. Now, unless you build up your whole neighborhood too and bring them up with you. No, it's not, that doesn't work that way. But that's the mentality, that's what's getting people killed. That's right. What's getting them killed is that nobody wants to learn how to fish. They want you to, to catch the fish, clean it, cook it and give it to them. And feed it to them. Yeah. That's what they think. Yeah. Well, if you made it in and I used to hang out with you and yada yada and now that you made it, I mean, you ain't coming back and getting me. But they're not seeing or struggling that you did to get where you was at. They're not seeing them nice where you couldn't afford to buy food or your lights was off and you trying to strive to be great. They're not experiencing none of that stuff. And, and what you say amplifies when you talk to them. Yeah. So if you say some, like it don't even have to be that bad. You could say, Hey, man, I can't do that for you right now. I mean, you got to, you know, move, you know, if you say anything like that. Yeah. That's pistol action. They already, because they already made because they already didn't make it and you did. Yeah. That's, that's what's going to happen. You know what I mean? But at the end of the day, it's like, I've come up with situations where I've had to make decisions that were best for me that left other people in unfortunate situations, but it was business. Yeah. A lot of people took it personal. Man, you, you did this. Why you didn't do that? Oh man, you just left leaving us hanging. No, bro, at some point in time you have to fend for yourself. Yeah. And sometimes you have to be selfish enough to understand that you have, you can't be good for everybody else if you're not good for yourself. There's Mr. Lee guys. So Mr. Lee, thank you for coming on the show, man. I know already, how can people get to hold to you on that? I always say this on, they got to see that beats for breakfast and all the other stuff when you revamp it, I'll be on it. I mean, it's Mr. Lee 713 on Instagram, Mr. Lee 713 on Twitter, producing Mr. Lee on Facebook, Mr. Lee 713 on Snapchat, Tiktok. You know, if you tap in, I'm going to tap back. I got a question. So how was it? Because he was on Breakfast Brothers, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was. We interviewed Ricky Bookall. Yeah, yeah. So that was a cool thing. Yeah. How did you enjoy it? How was it? It was dope. I mean, Ricky is a real dope, dope guy, man. He's real genuine. And, you know, anytime he called me for anything that he need, I'm always be there. I'm so proud of what he's doing with his restaurants and I've seen what he did and where he came from with that. You know what I mean? So I always admire Ricky. Because Ricky, you know, he strived to do the best and everything that he does. He does, definitely. And what they more, what they more waffle, they more, we can't eat them right now because we're on our little diet. Chicken and waffles. Yeah, but it was the red velvet. Yeah, that's the one that got her. Yeah. Yeah, it was soft, too. Yeah, you'll be famous when we're ready, man. Thank you so much for coming on the show. We love you, man. I appreciate y'all. Man. And we're going to definitely, we stay in tapped in. Whatever you're doing, listening, trying to figure out which way Mr. Lee going to go. We going with him. Yeah. Man. Say, man, it's been another great segment of Boss Talk 101. And we have. Mr. Lee, we here at Boss Talk 101 would like to present Mr. Lee Roy Williams, aka Mr. Lee, in recognition of the many years dedicated to the music industry, a legendary record producer making platinum and gold hits after hits. 2020. Thank you. You're welcome. Wow, man. We're passing out these roses while they're here, man. No. It's the most important thing, man.