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How are you doing Brendon? Are you keeping well? You're looking well. I'm looking well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, fair play. I was going to say the same to yourself. Are you drinking the water down and doing well? I am, yeah. Just four kids keep you busy Brendon over and it's it's all good but a fantastic weekend for Donegal first of all Brendon suppose in the DL debate it's it's good when you have three of your teams within the county one and suppose first of all we've got a special mention to the ladies for this young side to actually come away with a victory yesterday and a really blustery of Donald Park and we know how difficult it is down there but what a victory what a confidence boost it will give John McNulty side. Yeah, yeah, new coach coming in as we're talking for this brilliant a set of Donegal ladies that we've had knocking in the door you know having all Ireland and coming close enough and you know the victory against Dublin a couple of years ago and we were balding and it was if Maxie kept going back going give us another year give us a year there had to be a time when there was a change John has come in now great coach opening the victory against Leicks very good disappointing defeat to kill there last week but at home bouncing back well he went into that game without three of his well-known players and one of them being Katie Herron of course huge huge experience without Katie suppose getting that shot before the throw on Brendon any boiled car was out as well so get into that game yesterday and in those conditions West me Tony golf could have buried their head but I was just reading during the day about the game and one of the players that stepped up and a number of them did step up but one of them notably was Katie Douds 17 years of age do believe still playing minor football and that gives you great confidence when when that happens and look you have to you have to allow other players to maybe make that step up as well and give them that opportunity because it is brand as you know it's only on them days you'll know how good a player is and of course the ladies game you know 17 sounds so young but the ladies focus tend to come on that but earlier you know the thrust on the senior acts and very quickly security three points is on white with a goal on the point and six scores across the the score line which is encouraging I suppose work when you look at it you know out of the one nine you know you need a spread of scores but certainly you need your players a couple of players inside definitely register and I suppose they got that mix and blend right as I say just looking at John the last few years you know there's no doubt and he's a very progressive coach in terms of going out and and applying his style of course you're going to take a while to bear down a new team so many ways a good fit all over within the league I suppose within the ladies league as well trying something out and I know he's brought the cold garden back into that defensive role normally plays up front but yesterday she came back into that and that suppose at six maybe a quarterback the college in American football brand but look really really did a fantastic job there by all accounts yesterday ensuring that well look nothing was going to be easily given up every McGinley as well you know your defense one one thing about about football of course as you know is having good defenders you do need your forwards and develop and those as players but I think what John did yesterday was a wee bit maybe just take a look at where things you know you could always make improvements after each game but maybe making things a little bit tighter and once Westmeath came and the last thing you want brand is in any game is to give away goals and suppose that was something that the curtail yesterday and that improved as the game grew the grew into confidence and other players stepped up so great factory for the girls yesterday and listen that was a wee we quarterback reference in a Super Bowl this and forget for going to say some bad B boys you mentioned four there I four and there's there's a couple of me to get the bed there and the tracers like they're running a muck in the house so Lucas and saying and you you get yourselves get the hot water bottle we're down hot water bottle season right get up to bed I was they gave them a wee meant to keep forgetting the park you can mention your kids next week listen the brilliant month of ladies say that's that's two out of three listen they say it ain't bad as the song goes don't go man of course you know we're gonna chat the iron cannon and you know we're gonna round up all the fuck up particularly all stars I said at the start but listen you know away from home you know I've just looked like you can't kill a game away from home yeah you gotta say at any point even four points in it Cavalier decent side you know we're still building so in many ways a lot of learning from it you get out by the skin of their teeth but again it's two from two great start from Jim the thing I like about about Tony go all at a minute you know they're gonna in every game they're given as much as they possibly can and that's that's the starting point for a lot of teams if they're given a hundred percent obviously you know you don't mind if you if you get the fate of you know you're coming from but to go away from home to come away with a one point factory and the conditions you gotta remember the conditions were were you know supposed to were fairly difficult but in a game don't he go all suppose when you look at it Brandon there will be a little bit of head scratching the you know they could have had a chance or two Jimmy Brandon an opportunity maybe he fisted the ball with a bar for me Jimmy had the hard work done on that particular opportunity that he had but look it's easy saying that I'm listening to the boys and them and I seen it then you know it was a wee bit tight you can understand I don't think it was one them ones definitely you were gonna rattle the net but listen I suppose in hindsight if you go on maybe you draw the game you think there was a one in and losing of it as opposed I suppose by a point you know we but like you gotta look at the different players like if you look at the positioning of players the movement and you know Jim is constantly researching his team at the minute and you know for me playing players in different positions is the key stature of the man the way moves players about and figures out exactly where they can maybe make make a more of an impact and maybe the other people wouldn't be thinking about it I'm thinking of Keel McGonigal at number six for me that's at the minute is working really well shows intent of what Donnie Gall is going to be defensively moving forward you've got Brandon McCall in that full backline you know you've got a number of players around them then the runners from deep I know Pat or Morgan was missing yesterday but look you can only improve week in week out take the conditions it is February it was it was really really wonderful but very very positive from that point of view to come away from Refland Park with a one-point victory yeah definitely listen we're gonna talk about that some more as I say when we get AK the one and only Aaron Kernan on but after the break we're going to speak with Brandon McGuire been food you'll love till 9 p.m. daily in Sarah's kitchen and there's free admission entertainment every weekend there's bingo every Monday night at halfway house burn food doors open 7 30 with eyes down at 8 30 2500 euro must go the snowball is now 2350 euro 145 numbers or less if you're not in you can't win that's halfway house 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bank all the weekend but we thought we would keep the show wrong because there's so much sport on sometimes we must bank all these but the great Joe Dex has come in here to produce and look after me I think he's on double time tonight I think I ain't double time no no Brendan listen the reason it was great to have you on tonight is because we Wild Back Fair play the organized a charity game and any little angels and of the hospice and you asked me to play and I was like man the playing days are well gone I says I tell you what this is what we do we'll liven up the game because it was a mixture of legends from from the men's and ladies games and it is I'm asked a brilliant crew there for the match and I says why don't we do about a commentary through the Tannoy myself and Park and this is our park noise in studio because ever since then we had a brilliant day bring the city park when you come on to the studio I move about a crack and we'll interview guests and they came off the back of that game that you brilliantly organized our brother yeah well the company take all the credit we the great team there and Thursday Britain we put on a charity team there at the end of last year we're just running small charity events throughout the month so we were just for small kind of local schools and all that there about letter Kenny we're sitting down trying to come up with ideas and myself and David Calderty decided that we're trying to run a charity game and you know make it a mix of the dummy goals 2012 team legends and the ladies current and former players so and you know when we kind of sat in the room and came down with ideas like everybody was thinking it was a bit mad but as you know these charity events how they go once you get the ball rolling Brendan and you start reaching out to people like yourself there I just sent you a text message and see if you take play a part in it and I think you called me five minutes later with this mad idea that you would do that on commentary over O'Donnell Park and you know what Brendan that actually made the day yourself in park were brilliant having the cracks doing a bit of slagging I suppose I've got a good touch myself when I was coming off I'd have to say Brandon was weaboo dubious about some of the stats during commentary I was questioning I was carried about no we didn't have proper teams it's not gonna blame anybody for that but I have poor egg definitely carried the show I'll tell you that I don't know about that yeah just referencing Big Neil Gallar's managerial career it was a he's scratching head quite a bit brown wasn't he yeah yeah he had one of those ponderous luck size if he wasn't too sure what's going on listen he did the business on the pitch today then wait wait a minute I'm just saying they're under pressure at half time maybe that's why he's scratching the head there were four points down you know but listen it was it was a great way I think only I had a bit of a half-flash with me that kind of kept me taking over we were doing a good bit of rambling a second half but I was just thinking Brandon sometimes those wee games you see you know with the best will in the world they can be a bit I suppose they can in some ways we all enter change are coming in and out you want to make a bit of a bit of a fun in the day you know it's more a fun day so listen having someone like Park alone around like that certainly made that happen I really enjoyed it made a great day in the park then after that Brendan the news broke then about your managerial career taking a turn up to the to the very men of Lavey excited about the challenge ahead yeah a good challenge bread one that I'm looking forward to get me to stock and to be quite honest with you right now it's just about getting down there getting to know the players build relationships with them and having the players get to know me as well vice versa you know it's it's only February it's early days but the fixtures haven't been released in dairy yet hopefully we get them the next number of weeks and then we can sit down with the management team and plan our year year ahead and like Lavey speaking to tradition there bread and you know the one two alters one and all Ireland you know ten dairy championships but the last one is getting back to 93 and there's a burning desire there from anybody that I've met in the club you know to reach that promised land again so I'm gonna do everything that I can to get there Brendan looking at the success of slohniel and also of what he screams as well that has to suppose playing your mind a wee bit preparing for for the players for that and suppose there's a there's a massive aspect there within with it within dairy at the minute there they've been a number of really really good sides coming up how you how are you gonna prepare your side looking forward into that when you've got the all-island champions and your champions up this year on their doorstep by the way which I'm sure isn't easy I'm on the doorstep, I'm on the ground road Looks like massive achievements from Glen they've been knocking on the door probably the last four or five years they're beating the final last year there's no doubt about it every every club and dairy is probably studying them inside out because they're the top dog it's like any top team if you go back to Dunneagall just in McGinnis it's only gone to 2012 all the club teams copy that templates you know and most of the club teams now are gonna try and copy Glen templates but I don't believe that's the way to go you have to get your own imprints on the team and you've got to have serious belief in what do you coach and once the players see that there and you take them along once yes you know that's your own imprints on it I believe so I don't think that we're gonna be copying anything that Glen or Slotnation has done in the past there's a good young fast team there so you have to actually see what players you have at your disposal before you go and implement the game plan there and Brenda tell me obviously there's about I'd be up that way listen I know there's about a turmoil in the club which is previous to your time coming in there so in many ways you know you're in there it's like a clean slate and there's a massive buzz about dairy between the Dairy County team and the club all Ireland in there so even though you're going on the very competitive championship there's a huge excitement as you say Lavi I mean the setup there the facilities are second to none so in many ways loads and loads of positives Brenda for you coming in this season to you know put your stamp on it the serious talent coming through Brenton they're very competitive on their age they've got a number of minors there that have played for dairy last year the one now the all Ireland minor you know they've got a number of under twenties that are with dairy that has got very far last year as well and then obviously you've got the two county players that are up at the moment so everything's going in the right direction for them they have serious plans in place that on their age a good structure you know there's a lot of teams there between the football and the Ireland the underage and the Komogi and everything so everybody's trying to you know go in the right direction to get to get to where we want to be like and I think you think they're one of the only clubs in Ulster maybe that has their own dome as well Brandon Lavi oh what a setup yeah as I said to one of my friends there last day is like walking into a top league of Ireland club of solar space you know you just when you're walking into the clubhouse you just see Lavi Aaron's own had she straight in the face and the two doors open up it's brilliant facilities they've got the dome up there they've two full pitches one so you know back in the old tracker days Brandon when I used to stop there and I got to know the boy and he used to let me use the gym and I would jog around the indoor pitch and it was just it was a phenomenal place to be if a boss isn't listening so I used to do a gym session the gym so the setup I know the setup well at your own real spot but sure listen Brandon we'd love to talk to you in as the year goes on and see how the club was going we'll certainly be keeping an eye out it's great they've a done a gall man in there get the experience I'm sure the the Kelly bags boys have been calling on you at some stage down the road hi well look for any homeless where your heart is always been you know and I got into coaching first of all underage with Kelly bags and obviously then I got a serious injury so it took over the minor team and then I played through the senior year John rather than a body of yours and Eugene Mulligan were coaching they asked me would I coach the senior team then and I went in and helped them out you know when I got the balls then for it you know I was always as I said it was obviously coaching on their age so I was but I want to start a coach in the Kelly bag seniors that that's when I knew I wanted to be a coach brilliant stuff and listen we want to wish you all the best and that Brandon and again well done in the charity work there much appreciated by by by so many people and it was just good for myself and park to help right maybe next year try to try watching them a cue see as they as good as me and park they might get a team sheet listen very good very good listen brand great chatting yeah and she will catch up as the season goes on all right friends and thanks friends thanks for chatting that's great that Brandon McGuire there come up after a break one of the steepest talk Ulster football with Aaron Kiernan the DL debate with sister Sarah's letter Kenny serving food you'll love till 9 p.m. daily in Sarah's kitchen and there's free admission entertainment every weekend cabin crew prepare for landing wow that was a quick flight mm never mind Bondi beach barrier reef here we 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with you no problem and we've parked hopefully in studio here he's how you do any keeping well he's a man of stats a man of knowledge you know it just I needed him to maybe sound good you and me both I can still hear that we but if you were sick there I heard you get out of sick bed I didn't make it for smaller fish last week we Parkinson but I heard yeah you sucked it up and go through you know our plus say you're you're you're you're still soldier on even though you've retired yeah at that bed I had to get out and talk a bit of ball I knew you were gonna be there so we couldn't let them down all together but act just the usual this time of year and there's always something going about but thankfully nearly back and the men now and tell me how's the new fine time going there Aaron in terms of let me net that unbelievable career you have with with our mom of cross McLean one and every insight really what's what's it like now these early days of freedom and yeah I'm enjoying it I'm not I knew myself I was very much at peace with it and I don't know that I feel like I do and I'd give it everything I could give and physically like I probably still could go on but I just know deep down I just don't have the hunger to be as disciplined as what I've been for 20 odd years I just I want to get back into doing a bit of giving a bit back to the club in terms of underage coaching and been there to see my kids growing up and developing and yeah they said just thrilled to have achieved what I've achieved to play at the level that I played at and come out unscathed as well like I've no injuries worth talking about and so just count myself very fortunate and more than happy to call it a day and at the moment just getting involved in underage really we're just starting to put plans in place and I'm gonna go in and help it under eights and under tens and Tony Macinty has been over sort of the full development of underage within the club and I've taken up that role now and he's obviously still very busy with what he's doing a county level with Slago and as a family as well to deal with and work so yeah I'll get into that as well and see where it takes us over the next ten years or so as a club. Mighty man no doubt and you'll put your stamp on it no marks to come out in them chiseled good luck to yours not no surveyed as well. He's done really well he's kept his hips as well. Is that a dig at me. This is what's going to happen here and you know the hips as you've seen that night in Crosby Glen I've still got a few moves in the dance floor kid you know it. Aaron tell me Division 2. I was never in doubt Brandon. Maybe in my own head I think I still have it but Aaron we're going to start at Division 2 because that's a big one for for us and yourselves. Starless season our man Dunnegal with the two teams was tipped and of course use it that sticky opener to louse louse of course of the great performance last week. He's blew me the way at the weekend we had a very impressive first one against a power cork and then a sticky victory over Kevin. What have you made of them early exchanges? Do people call it right like we did I suppose in terms of it's a Dunnegal and our man potential top two teams in the league? Yeah well even though it is only the second weekend I do see that I think it will be Armagh and Dunnegal out to me as it will come out. I think the fact the cork now have lost for the second weekend in a row they'd be doing great work to try and pull it back because I just I can't see Armagh and I've already gone losing three times and you know over the next couple of weeks but it was week one for yourselves I have to say like literally from two three minutes in it was it was very very pleasing on the age to see that the stamp that Jim was putting on us and I do I'm smart enough to be able to caveat that that weather and a long travel maybe for cork and Joe just by he's been keen and eager and it might have showcased him a bit better late but it was just how you're going about it the different sort of plan and the amount of boys he's got back on board and that there and the buzz that it brings the county I just think it's great I think it's it's unbelievable that the turnaround and fortunes and excitement and personnel and from this conversation that ourselves had last year and then likewise Armagh last week everyone's sort of a bit disappointed in Armagh last week and I always knew loud we're going to be difficult enough to beat I just felt we're a bit more cagey than what was necessary and particularly late on whenever we're playing with a strong breeze I felt we dropped off too much off their kickouts whenever it wasn't necessary and it gave a good team like loud a bit of momentum to come at us and and literally we hung on they could have had a 45 at the end to draw it and it probably would have been a fair result and but got a wee bit of luck got that win and then after a slow enough 15 minutes on Saturday night as soon as they got a sniff and against me they just completely wiped the floor now an awful lot of it was what Armagh did well but again me very young very inexperienced and once the game turned you could just see like there was no chance they were coming back one goal before halftime put maybe four or five points in it and that was it you knew that was the end of it for them but still great that you have the two wins on board and looking like we're heading where we want to be which is back to division one yeah yeah just about that you know you look at those games the two games were sticky away games you know there has to be a thing where the homeside are going to be buoyed they're going to come at you you know the cabin didn't get a go but the three points in the second half on the road coming down the stretch propelled them back in the match and of course we see that a lot you know if the home team if I don't go over at home there they're going to control that game and extend the lead you got to give that thing the homeside that are pumped up and ready to go at you and definitely gal again there from the word I'm getting back from the cabin players because it was a strange enough appointment I thought you know an experience completely coming in they don't Steve you need some of them there from Toronto there's certainly things seem to be moving in the right direction from them and it's done ago we're seeing coming through the physical challenge and the modern game physicality is huge they really put it up they don't even go particularly in that second half well they definitely do then you look at the cabin those cabin players Darren McVity you look at him you know out and out footballer for a number of years now Calvin have a lot of strength and depth and you said Galligan the appointment of him a lot of A's Bruce were raised but look maybe brand that's you know the funny Korean Monah and you know you look at that type of appointment and he's done the right thing he's got a bit of experience and around him as well but from it only go point point of view suppose really you know Kevin came out done he got that stage and look if you're if you're if you're smart about your football you know that's going to happen like you're going to have that they have that home advantage as well but look I think from from the point of view from the goals point of view that a couple of key opportunities that Jim will be looking at this week again that maybe they should have taken and maybe put that game out of sight but look looking at our ma I love our mass supporters because it's just when when louse came to town and look it was going to be a difficult game all right you know but our mass supporters are they're really tough on our math the our math team because they forget last year that you know the Ulster Ulster championship how far they got and nearly it's just penalties that have beaten them you know so look from an our point of view as well Brandon like you know two ones out of two the first one wasn't pretty the second one as as Aaron has indicated they smelt a little bit of blood and they went for it so that that has to be very very impressive from from work here in McGinney sitting there at the minute they're looking like they're in a position to go back up as well so look that's I'm really looking forward to that game I know we're looking ahead there but both sides you know we'll not worry a bit for man I will just no no no definitely not listen Aaron you know you talked to the players last year and obviously Pat was brilliant again at the weekend you know Brendan McColl I think is one of the most solid defenders in the country they Steve McMenaman back in this is a few injury problems he had a huge game Ryan McHugh's absolutely flying it's if that year off has rested him and Park was talking earlier Ryan about Cue McGonigal at number six and how well he is playing as well and he likes to care in Thompson McBurdy and of course Oshin Gallon being Oshin Gallon so a lot of pluses Michael Langan back as well Aaron listen a lot of pluses he's mentioned looking from the outside and Darygon you can see the general momentum of the team of course the turbid stepping up for use at the weekend in terms of freezing that what about what about the main man who nearly was the word in him well Ryan's back in training with him at the moment so he is but he just hasn't made actually either in the matchday it's what he did get back in for one of the McKenna cup games I think it was maybe the very last one but didn't see any game time so yeah he just needs to get his fitness back up and I'll say Aaron probably it could be a two-way sword that he's putting a bit of responsibility in that they're on the likes of turbo and hitting the free kicks and at the same time just making Ryan know that they get back in there you're going to have to work for it so I think it'll be win-win for him he'll have a fit and a very hungry rear-need back whenever that happens it's a really good thing isn't it? Well they've been cheekier and can ask you to use practice in poundies but I would like to think it is something down the lane that yeah it's going to be called a priority. All joking aside that sounds like a big deal. I can't take any more heartbreak. That's only good Darygon but basically you're seasoned, hinged on a couple and I'm thinking to myself you know and as much as it's a weird and such a hard thing to recreate particularly in training it's such a strange thing but really it changes your season you know from a another what-off kind of campaign and I suppose the general vibe about the beginning you still got to say that things progressed in many ways I think you can play devil's advocate can you with the whole situation? Okay you can I suppose you know yourself from a goalscorer that all of that is down to confidence too and you can practice all you want but the pressure that comes on you and those big days with the crowd there and maybe a miss psychologically it's tough to deal with in terms of I suppose you're talking about Giza or where we're at they're just there are times where there's frustrations that we do feel that there's certain stages we just step off and we have teams on the rack and we don't go for the throat we don't finish them off and what I mean by that there is said the Galway game a couple of years ago like we get a free kick to put us one up a times up and an unmass we just all retreated the whole way back and gave some of the best footballers in Ireland just said there's the ball go on ahead so shaving come up the field and the wall stop the feeling killing me the kicks the point goes to penalties in my opinion whenever it's championship football and this isn't being naive or looking about like football years ago championship football and winning championship teams there's an aggression there's a cutthroat there to them they go after things you do not give the best players whenever the game is on the lane in the opposition the ball and say come at us and gives a bear shot because we did it then right we did it against Galway then we got beaten penalties we did it against Derry and just the final last year as well probably in the league opener yeah we were treated against Derry and that was the final and gave them bit of a momentum got the draw we did it over in Carrick and Shannon against Galway again last year and got off with it because Shane Walsh missed the free kick and then against Monaghan same thing in the championship we dropped off after kicking a free to put us one point up and next thing they go up the field McManus kicks through Glazer penalties again so that is only one small tactical change that we keep seeming to stick with but it's costing us dearly small margin so that's the type of thing that has become a frustration and the loud game last weekend a counterturb it's got a free kick to put us two up with four minutes to go but we were playing with a gale so ice I'm standing at the game going right well just get good man to man here forced him long the ball is gonna hang in the air and let's smash the ball get a break and try and pin them in same thing though we were treated everybody back to the middle of the field loud walls up the field kick a point and next thing is one point in it and you're looking at your watch going these boys gonna pin us in there for the last three or four minutes and that's what happened and luckily again this time we got away with it we're there missed the last 45 and we got a one-point win so so just a wee small thing pork so that has been frustrating people and what you're trying to say really aren't is that that's down to management really that's you know some things when you when you look at those situations in those high and tense championship matches yes the league as well but is that decisions that are made on the line well it has to be because if it didn't work against Galway two years ago and then it didn't work three times we did it last year if you're letting players make these calls and it's costing us daily well it doesn't say a whole pile phase of management then to know so you would have to think that it is something that they're talking about discussing I just don't see it working and to be honest with you like I seen Kerry doing it yesterday against Monan and you see this an awful lot is as soon as a team scores a goal now they'll all drop off so Clifford second goal yesterday and Kerry all dropped off the middle of the field and within 30 seconds Monan waltz up the field and Jack McCarrick kicks the ball over the bar and I'm wondering to myself what is the point in you dropping off like because teams are now too good at this they've got use to you dropping off they'll just carry the ball up the field away that someone comes in looking at the shot off so therefore it's a total waste of time so can we just not change that that's just my point is and try something different they're going to go up to field and score anyway so can we not try and pin them in you know or try and force a turnover instead of just giving top in the county players the ball yeah yeah iron listen brilliant stuff iron last couple of minutes just I have to ask you about this dairy dairy juggernaut yourself yourself and why pick them to be league champions this year a very out of sorts newest type to run team like dairy operating really in another level completely controlled the game and they're going to take a bit of stopping they are and we also talked about that we felt there were probably two forward short maybe I've gone on to be ultimately all airline champions and I know it's maybe early in the year and a big call I think they're only one forward short now because what I've seen of Cormac Murphy last weekend in a short period of time the games a draw and he literally takes on the whole carry defense by himself beats them all until the dragon down that just showed brazenness for me it showed self-belief and someone who was backing himself and got into a dangerous area got found but yesterday he took it to a whole new level all together and two points off his left one off his right and just so direct so busy and no turnovers from any possessions that that he had and I just thought he was absolutely brilliant and definitely someone who's really going to add to them come somewhere they definitely are like in terms of physically they're just a bigger and more developed than that throne team that lain out yesterday but to me they look like a team that's on a mission they look very much like with Mickey Hart stamp he put on throne whenever he first went into them where he wanted to win every competition he went in because that's where you get genuine confidence and self-belief so they have come up from four three two they're trying to win division one now they've done their back-to-back ulcers and they're going to see themselves as being genuine all-erland contenders because of genuine silver it's been able to pick up along the way so for me now the first round game between yourselves and them it's going to be the one that I think is really going to kick off kick off the summer because my brother and dad went to yourselves and them in Celtic Park in 2014 in the first round and moments is Dunnegal is going to win the all-erland and I was like oh I think they're they're done you know they've sort of been over the hell as a team and they just felt that there was a spark or there was an energy bit Dunnegal even that early in the year that they were going to have have a long season and I think that is the game that is going to bring out the best and and McGinnis and this Dunnegal team as well it's one ready I'm looking forward to yeah indeed unless we can let anyone in the league when it comes to Celtic Park we're going thumping my I mean all three of them are in the Dunnegal boys it's coming we're going to get there I probably can get nobody remembers the league are we branding you know it's kind of that's true we can let there anyone in the league right there I fancy you can have that Aaron listen great chat to you my man and we'll be catching up with you as the season goes on always great to talk sir pleasure top man Aaron Kiernan there the legend that is after a break we're going to speak to another legend Niall Cleary of Sipanta and Dunnegal I didn't do this all too early to honce I could lower belly talking to a push to just go no luck to current say take the fall I just bought a change a sure wishy there no slurrowing a part of that I guess not a lot being chunker egg nukenty I guess Bartish occurring the uderos I guess the core glory a how in toss it in vain Aaron sale it a chance I hate It's way to 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The DL Debate with Sister Sarah's Ladder Kenny, serving food you'll love till 9pm daily in Sarah's kitchen. And there's free admission entertainment every weekend. Yes, welcome back. And I'm delighted to say, in studio, we won't lay... I don't know, you don't comment on it. Iron Curtain was all about goalscores here, right? You don't sound the mainer. Now, it's clearly great to see you now. I was just saying, off air there. I mean, what a season, what a career you've had in Stuller having, of course. Donegal and Satanta. And I was saying, I've never heard of joint managers that both played. How did you manage to cope with that throughout the season? And obviously you cope brilliantly because you made history in Madal away and won the Ulster. Yeah, it was like this, but we needed a way to guarantee that we're both going to still be on the team. So we'd say we're happy to take it. You're on, you're on. Kevin was kind of manager last year with Gary McGurray and the two of them. And he wanted to play a bit, you know, he's still at that stage. So he asked me to kind of come in and give him a hand this year. So we managed it. It gets tough like in the big games, you know, in finals. And then when you get to the Ulster and that, it gets tough to make decisions. But having Gary on the line was a big help there. Yeah, and Gary, of course, some experienced manager himself. How did that, did you just need to go to him and say, right, Gary, we're going to need somebody strong on the line to relay to, to, to be part of this. And the fair play to Gary, because that can't have been easy for him. Then he's still kind of involved, but he's, he's not the manager. But of course he's a public role. He wanted to take a step back, but he hardly missed a session like on here. But no, you just kind of go for the matches like, and you have a big chat. You go through all your scenarios, everything. You think you cover everything. There's always stuff to crops up in matches that you're not, but you try and cover as much as you can. And then he knows, you know, we've chatted it through. He knows, right, if Brendan gets injured or if this happens or whatever, this is what we do. So there's a lot of planning and meeting and stuff involved in it. So, but no, it worked out well in the end. They'd get really tough in the, in the big games. You know, when you're under pressure in a game and you just can't concentrate on playing and making decisions. So all the decisions on the match days then were kind of left to Gary. Yeah, yeah. And I was just saying to you, now in terms of when you're playing in and you see some kind of tactics, are you thinking then, because you're watching your man or you're watching this litter, are you thinking, I need to relay that or you just have to get on with your game or what, you wait the half time or what? No, definitely at the start, I was trying to think with a manager's hat on as well and play. And I was like, God, Jesus, if he's going mad over there, can we move him? What do we need to do? Do we need to, you know, but just as the year went on, I realized you can't do it. So you just chat through all those scenarios and you leave it all to Gary then on the day. Like the odd time, you would see something very obvious, you know what I mean? And you might make a call while you're playing, but nah, mostly it was all the decisions were left to Gary on the day. It was more, to be honest, it was more coaching mean, because we were doing mostly the coaching, the training during the year, like that kind of thing. And Kevin's role going back in the goals, like he was brilliant at it in many ways, I suppose that his ability out of the field seemed to help him in terms of being able to sweep and come out. Exactly, very clever hurler, very skillful. So he's made for the goals. I don't know why he didn't go back in a couple of years earlier, you know what I mean? Because he was kind of struggling out to feel a little bit to keep up with the training and that. And he was really kind of bonus for us this year to have him on the ball and in the nets. And he's just a lot of experience there. It's the same as watching Dunnegal there yesterday with Luke White in the nets. Like when you're a goal, he can come out and take the ball and give you that sense of security. It's a massive plus. So he was definitely a big plus for us this year. Yeah, and just on yesterday's victory, I mean, I just, going away from what we were chatting, they make you a can last week. You know, he's on about players missing. And, you know, I think Dunnegal, the defeat they were at home last year, they really overpowered us, you know, and I thought to myself, we're going to, now I know they were missing players, too. But the scoreline that had surprised you, 222-13 away from home. I mean, Division 2B, as we know, it was the division for years, Dunnegal, would get in, they couldn't hang out. Now they're seasoned in there. But, I mean, a way of victory like that there, it was a phenomenal start, you know? Yeah, it's probably credit to what Mickey's built over the last six or seven years, you know, when Fancy's come in and whatever it was, he must be there six or seven years now. He's really built a good, strong panel there, brought through a lot of young players there in the last few years, and looking lots of ways, it was the ideal game to get Wicklow in a little bit of disarray at the moment. Manager stepped down 10 days before the league. You know, they won the Niki Racker last year, but they can be a bit like that, you know what I mean? It's like, as if they didn't fancy going up to the Christie Ring, and the challenge of that, so most of them just didn't commit this year. It was the ideal first game to get, you know what I mean? Even though it was down in Akram, but ideal first game to get, and those young lads, a couple of lads making their debut here in the current cornerback, and a couple of the young lads, you know, it was just an ideal game to get. And yeah, good performance, 223 is a massive score, you know, one by 16 points, I think, that nine or 10 score, so loads of things to be pleased with. Yeah, McKinney, Manly Match five, Gilmore, one nine. Just look at Darlin, we've seen it last night on there, and you see that no football teams, I think, not to say they can't get hammered, but you can get a team and set up defensively. You can't do that in Hortland. We've seen some annihilations there last night. It seems to be, you know, if a team goes on a bit of a run and goes up a division, they better be ready for that, because there seems to be a massive step in some of the leagues up there, and I suppose we're done a goal, you're always thinking 2B, you know, unless you really bossed it, you know, should you, is that what would be your feeling now? 2B is a good place for us at the minute? I think it's a good place. I think, yeah, it's very competitive, like it's a league where you really need to, like that first win is big, because it gives you safety net, it gives you, you know, you're maybe not going to get relegated, because even if it goes to head-to-head against Wicklow, you have to head-to-head against them, so you're guaranteed, so then you can kind of relax into the other games. But, yeah, very, like I'd say, the rest of the games will all be, you know, a couple of scores in it, but still, you know, they've been in 2B, they've been to a final in 2B last year, they'll probably be, you know, looking at getting to a final again, and they won't be overly disappointed if they don't get up, but I'd say it'll be all about the championship for Mickey this year, though. I think I get the feeling he really wants another Nicky Racker this year. Good luck. Looking at the grass roots as well, a lot of development happening around the county, and I suppose it's getting other clubs to start a hurling team, and I suppose that's been a challenge now for Donnie Goll over the years. Probably has, yeah, like I'm up here 10 years, so I've seen a big lot of work gone in and under, even now you look at the county team, it's not just Burt or Satanta anymore, every club is represented, I think nearly Bar, maybe, Bar, maybe Bali, Shannon, don't have anyone on it, but the rest of the clubs are all represented on the county team, so obviously Cairndonna, Eunan, Burt, Satanta, particularly have all done a pile of work underage, and that's come into fruition now. But no, there's definitely working on, I see Korma Carton that's involved in the kind of development side now, and I see a role advertised for a hurling coach over in the Gael Talks, which is great, you know, the hurling in Ghidor underage, and a bit over in Dunlowe as well, so it's definitely growing all the time. We're actually lucky because we have eight senior clubs, like if you look at other team, or other inter-county teams at the same level, Tyrone, Raskam and Slago, you know, they're far less, they've only three or four senior hurling clubs, so it's kind of, I know it's only God's a big county, but it really is a credit to the work that's gone in the clubs at underage level. So what you're telling me in a couple of years, there'll be a few Davanis floating about Ghidor again. Hey, I played for Burt, one of the old stuff, which you might like that now. Yeah, so you're doing Joe Boyle, aren't you? So you have a bit of hurling in you somewhere, right? Well, my mum's from Galway, you see. She was in the hurling sites at the school with Brendan Lansky, and you have to be at a certain age to remember the great girls. Yeah, but it's probably a thing that football clubs maybe be a bit hesitant about taking hurling in to be thinking, but really, like in a county, when push comes to shove, if you're playing hurling and football, unless you come from a really hurling family, you're probably still going to choose the football, so it's only going to benefit, like the skills and things like that. Shaw McVeigh, that andrum tie-in, which he doubled, but that's not going to only speak for unans, we embrace it. I know there's some silliness in some situations there now, but unans certainly embrace it, and certainly this season, you know, Tauron, Derry's the big one coming up next, Slago, you know, you've plenty of derbies in there, you've London, Roscommon, but those three games in particular, you know, certainly get, are exciting for fans, and particularly with Derry, the benchmark now with Derry coming down, that'll tell a lot about Donegal. Yeah, that'll be a big test next week, and in fairness, they've done really well against Derry in the last, don't need to play them last year, but the previous couple of years, you know, it's been a score in it, just didn't get over the line, it's been a few years since we've beat them. Derry are good, like did a good win again, against Tauron on their new management, Derry had a good win there at the weekend, so yeah, it'll definitely be a big test next week. Donegal yesterday, you know, played well, lots of stuff to improve on, and they'll need to improve that, like it was the first round of the league game, there's lots of mistakes, sloppiness, but you can't afford that next week against Derry, you know, it'll be, it'll be, Paul will be taking away from you straight away and put it over the bar, you know. There's a couple of brilliant victories in Derry, of course, with Satata on Derry's soil, on your way to that epic Ulster victory, your dinner dances next week, Richard Powers coming up, you've invited me along as well for the crack. Yeah, yeah, Richard Powers, we're looking to go for it. What's going on right now? We've been invited, we've been invited, if you could take it first. Oh, yeah. There's a free dinner, there's a free dinner, we'll definitely be there. It's an open invite, we're looking forward to it, Brendan, very lucky to get Richard Powers this year, 8 All-Irelands, you know, he had his leg regual last week, you know, it'll be interesting here, what he has to say, you know, the Kilkenny lads are really good with their time, coming up here, Cody was up last year, and Richard Powers this year, yeah, and then we had the both... You should pull in the stars, you've some contacts, boy. Oh, I'm telling you, we're flat out going. And the village. And the village. I can't have stopped there at Richard Powers there, you know. Well, we are gendered, X Donegal, full forward, Superstar was going as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then we thought it was Murphy, we're like... Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's such a letdown, isn't he? He just does the 8 All-Irelands more than me, but I don't... He's counting. But listen, what a season, I suppose, you know, we're down the last couple of minutes. Yeah. But each step of that all-star victory, the three matches, underdogs every time, you know, what a season for you, trailblazing, and of course, no, there's always has to be a first, you know, one can ever match that or take that away. Yeah, yeah. And Satanta have done that in Donegal at intermediate level. Yeah, I know it was class, like, you've kind of time to reflect on it now, over the last January, like, when we weren't doing any hurling. But no, it was class, with that first game, you know, really, the 12-week break, so you just don't know how that first game and all-star is going to go. And you know yourself in sport, once you get that bit of momentum, it can just drive things on. And when we get over the Dairy Champions, just gave us a lot of belief, because we'd played Carrickmore before, we'd played, you know, Lispelog, played all these teams and competed with them, either won or lost by a couple of points. So we knew we were at that level, and then just on the day, you know, games are won in moments, you know, Carrickmore getting a goal or Josh getting a goal against Middletown and then against Carrickmore, kind of just the perfect final, just played well from the start. A little bit of a blip in the second half, but, you know, pound it out at the end then again. So, yeah, unreal year for the club, like, and everybody involved at club, so really looking forward to celebrating on Saturday night. Listen, I'm looking forward to it. I can't wait. There's going to be, you know, the way the keeper is a big thing now, the keeper is moving out and, you know, playing now. The manager is actually playing, and managing so it's a... This man, we'll get you a job at the bar or something like that. The other side of it, will you? Certainly. Well, thanks so much for coming in. I want to thank my guests this evening around the time here. That was a brilliant show, pork. Thanks so much for coming in. Joe Dexford, producer and head of sport, Oshane Kelly, and we'll speak to you all next week.