 And I'm also now recording. So thank you for the reminder. Val, let me know if you can hear us or hold on guys. What were we recording? Yeah, what's up dude? First try, hell yeah. Yeah, getting better than this. Dude, Val, is your voice still gone? Dude, I sound like Darth Vader right now, man. I'm good. I seriously sound like a different person. Bro, how you been? That's why I use the microphone. God, finally, bro. I was about to slap you a couple of times. What's going on, guys? Dude, feeling good, man. I was talking about how fun the meetup was. And I was giving a shout out to our young crew, dude. Freaking Samuel and all the boys, dude. Getting an Airbnb together. Being the most hungry dudes possible to learn this shit. You imagine, man, if we had something like this when we were growing up. Val, I was literally telling the members. I was like, dude, I was blacking out on park benches off Jose Cuervo at 20 years old. These guys are fucking speaking at meetups. And they already know how to trade at 20 years old. I'm still doing that, but with better alcohol, that's all. Well, at least you're blacking out on park benches, but you can trade your ass off. Oh, that's funny, dude. So what's going on? I wanted to, now it's time for you guys to ask your questions. So now we got Bow on. We got myself, guys, hit us with all the questions and topics you want to talk about today. Like what are you, what's hindering your process? What do you need help with? We can show some examples. This is a really good time to ask questions, both on YouTube and both in the webinar's channel if you're a current member. Awesome, man, guys. Thank you for the love, man. You guys see Ergo, Godspeed? Man, he climbed Mount Kilimanjaro. Holy crap, right? No, where'd you post that? Did you post that now after hours or did he? In Maine. Well, he posted it after hours but then we posted it in Maine. I love how someone did this already. That's hysterical. That's Elon Musk taking it to the moon, baby. Look at this, guys. This is, oh my God. This guy, Mount Kilimanjaro. Dude, are you kidding me? That is the coolest. Dude, it's so sick, dude. That is insane. Look at this view, dude. This is not Photoshop. Are you kidding me right now? This is the power of the community, man. If you guys want to hike, now you have a hiking tab. Seriously. How amazing is that? This is the coolest, man. God, that's cool. Next adventure here. Yeah, this is definitely, we're gonna need Elon Musk help with that one there. I think, I've always wondered about, because Elon Musk has teased for two years now that he's gonna actually put a Dogecoin flag on the moon. I'm like, if that fucker puts a Dogecoin flag on the moon and that coin doesn't pump, then it's dead forever. They happy to help her, bro. Happy to help, buddy. You don't want to mess with that stuff. Stick to stocks. Val, got our first question. Can you recommend a decent free paper trading simulator for use in the UK to test drive strategies, thinkorswim not accessible for UK members? I know you definitely have some strong things on a simulator. I think Cobra had some. I think Cobra had some free one, right? I'm not sure. I'm not 100% just with international stuff like that, but what I can tell you, Roberto, is I'm almost daring. Look, I don't use it, so I don't know, but I'm almost 100% at DOSTrader.com. There's no restrictions to anywhere to download because it's not linked to a real account. And we don't have an affiliation. It's just what I've heard other members say they like. So maybe Google that. Maybe check that out to start, man. Yeah, DOS is what the platform that gives up the free ones. Yeah, and guys, just did not get this confused with anything else. If we go to Chart Recaps and Fills, what you would be getting a simulator on is this, a real platform that all of us traders use, but you can practice on a real platform. So if you have to pay for it, sometimes it's worth the money just to pay so you can get a real feel, right? So take a look at what we posted in the webinar. Oh, right here? Yep, yep, start a 14-day paper trading trial. Let me click this link and show you. Oh, cool, there you go, awesome. Yeah, that's probably the way to go, guys, because if you get used to that, obviously not the fake fills that a paper account does, but if you get used to the platform, then once you want real money and you go to something like Cobra, it's gonna be such a smooth transition versus doing a paper account on TD Ameritrade and then you don't know shit about DOS. So, yeah, I recommend that. Yep, so screenshot this link. Maybe, where else can you post it? I guess, is he not a member or is he a member? That was a member, that was a member. That was for Roberto. For Roberto, definitely check that out, buddy. Anything on Slack and Copy and Paste, I think. All right, question number two, let's see. Oh, Davis said, can you guys go over the morning watch list part again? Yeah, Davis, let me show you real quick. So every single day for those who have missed, guys, Alex puts together a really detailed watch list. So like what was on Scans today was AMC, obviously as a low hanger, BFRI, obviously as a day two low hanger. You know, there's OLB, like, sorry, OLB, not OLB. This was a day one play, and then A-R-V-L and then M-V-J-H. So every single day, like Alex is, well the team, but specifically Alex is putting this together so that you never have to go in blind. This is so we can be prepared as a team, as a group, as a club, and specifically just you as an individual because Alex has been trading for nearly a decade, guys. You have to understand that when he puts something on there and the lines and the lines, those are the lines. And if he doesn't want to mess with a short, that might be a good long opportunity so you can also reverse in what's talked about in that list. Does that make sense? I hope that answers your question, buddy. Let's see. Please discuss a bear market rebound. Now, you're probably the king of this, man. You've been seeing 20 years of this stuff, a bear market rebound. Well, what's the question? Yeah, is there a specific question you have in that, Chewy, or just bear market rebound? What does that mean? You're talking about big caps, obviously, like everybody's talking about it. Yeah, we got a bear market floor, it's three days. Yeah, I know, seriously. I mean, I think, like, here's the thing, man. I'll just keep it very simple with like a bear market in big caps is when they're talking about raising interest rates and they're not money printing anymore and throwing it in the market, these are reasons why something would go down, right? Like this is the reason why the market would, at least just if you equate it to a balloon, it just lets some air out of the balloon, not necessarily pop and go to a market crash like 2008, but everybody was freaking out from 480 to when they said 420, thing in the sky was gonna fall. Look, the interest rates weren't that bad. They're barely bringing them on yet. They kind of teased that. This was a little bit of the news with Russia and Putin and Ukraine and stuff. So, I mean, look, the end of the world didn't happen and people realized that now we're back to a bull market. Like it's... What is the question though? Well, he just said, please discuss. So there's nothing specific about it. This is a guy from YouTube? Yeah, a guy from YouTube. Obviously. So, people are too worried about what's a bear, who cares if it's a bull or a bear? It's the same thing, line to line. I can care less if you're in a bull or a bear, it's the same type of process that we trade off. So stop focusing on what's a bear or what's a bull. Focus on the strategies that make you money. Yep. Yeah, guys, that's more of a question for like, if you're truly like a long-term investor, which then you can pay more attention to that, but guys, if you're a day trader, it's the last list. Like this is your bull and bear market right here every day. It's just line to line. What are the patterns? What are the patterns that we teach? You know, if I go back to the sheet that I showed you guys earlier, what is the first bounce? What's the first like, are these in play? Not is Jerome Powell printing money? Like who gives a shit, right? Like is the deaf line short viable today? Is there a deaf line play? Is there a low-ing in fruit play? You know? Like this is your guide every day. Who cares about a bull or a bear market? If you have volatility, you have opportunity. It's as simple as that. So you don't have to worry about this stuff unless you're building like a retirement account. I get that's a different story. That's a completely different subject. Let's see, next question. How does a trader under PDT start out what's the best strategy? Is it still shorting small caps, the number one strategy for that situation? Great question. Now you want to talk about one? Well, a couple of things guys. Are you pattern day trader or not, right? If you're overseas, you can keep trading with trade zero and doesn't have to stop by three trades a week. The only thing that's topping the pattern day trader is the three trades a week. So you can choose to go short if you want using the Venom product. As long as you find a locate or IB, if you find a locate, you're strict to the three. So if you like to short, then short three times a week. If you like to go long, do the first bounce three times a week in and out. The key is if you're under pattern day trader, don't fucking pray, don't hold them pray. Get, make your money in exit, make your money in exit, make your money in exit. Exactly. Or you can split up your account into multiple accounts to get more trades. So you have a $5,000 account, why don't we have two $2,500 accounts? So you have now six trades a week. I love that. And guys, remember options in swing trading are like the deterrent to a PDT account, right? Like when I had $8,000 in my account when I was 22 years old versus like 31 now or whatever was 24 is I didn't even know what I was doing but I still had kind of common sense. And I built an account doing the first bounce and also a combination of on really strong stocks and a combination of swing trading because I had three trades a week, my TD Ameritrade account. And then I split up that money into 3K E-Trade, 3K TD Ameritrade and like 3K Fidelity. So then I had nine trades. And then I would still do a little bit of swing trading if I had a really good first bounce average. But back then I didn't know what a stop was. I wish I did. Now I do, which I'd implement but there are ways to get around it and specifically on options. Or you do options. I have a lot of friends I do off with a large cap room with a thousand dollar account and they give me like 300, 400 bucks a day. Yeah, seriously, man. Like options is like the cheat code to PDT. So if you guys are asking, what's the cheat code behind PDT? It's even if you have a small account, I think the answer is options truly. That's why I recommend truly. And we teach that. We teach that. It doesn't hurt till you try it. Exactly. And you're not even gonna know if you like it till you try it, right? With interactive brokers, if you deposit the minimum amount, you can pay for trade with live data. Oh, out of B. Thank you for that information for our guys. Let's see. I missed wish this morning and a few other first red day because I was lasered in on HLBZ short. I can't multitask yet. That's my struggle. So there's no question in there, Edward, to Liz, but yeah, man, like you do, dude, Val earned his reputation and Alex earned or I earned knowing how to trade six tickers at once. If you're just lasered onto one at a time, man, I mean, that's just, that's how everyone starts. You can't look at that. Look what you did, man. Look what you did. The easy winner to tackle a first day mover. HLBZ, yeah. So what are you doing, right? Focus on the multi-day breakdown plays, a little hanging fruit stuff. Avoid the first day shiny objects. Yep. You should never ever pass up a day two play, a day three play for a day one shorting front side. And specifically if it's your only play, like if you can't multitask yet, Edward, Val is a hundred percent. You need to go for the easiest one possible because if you get locked on it or like you're locked on it like a pit bull, you know you're gonna miss out on opportunity costs elsewhere. So that's a really good point. If you can multitask and do them all, that's a different story, right? Cause Val can do that. Val can trade eight stocks at one time and then still have fantasy orders out there and eat a Subway sandwich. It's like, dude's not human, man. He's got clones. What you gotta do is go on the ones that are the easiest plays, not the shiniest object. Definitely. The one you're gonna make money on for sure. Next question, or at least statement. While you have the chart of BFRI, okay, I can bring that up, BFRI. While we have this chart, let's see. I was up on the position but got stuck around zombie hour. How do I avoid this the next time I should cover some after the first 30 minutes of the day? Well? You know your answer, bro. Bro, you just answered it. You're telling me to tell us, how do you stop being a dumbass? Stop being a dumbass. Well, and it's like, Nicholas, you literally just said that. It's like, you're a doctor, then you go, doctor, my arm hurts like this when I reach out like this. Don't reach out like that. Yeah, like dude, you know, you know what you're doing wrong, bro. I stopped myself from, I don't want to say it, bro. Oh, don't say it. You're in the blanks, man. There's a lot of discipline things. This is where you get a tab. This is where you put an alarm. Maybe you have, maybe you set a bunch of like alarms like at 10, 20, 10, 20, 20, 22, all the way, 10, 30. Make sure you get the hell out. You do whatever it takes because you know your problem, guys. You know, put a hard stop. Maybe after zombie hour, put a hard stop in. So if you want to cheat and you want to break the zombie rules, put a hard stop in. So at least like it forces you out. Yeah, man, it should draw a line, dude. Make it visual. I am not going to hold a position or open up a new position past the first hour. Like staple some shit to your, I mean, take some stuff to your monitor. Do whatever it takes, man. Yeah. This is a disciplinary problem when we're not your parents. Unfortunately, you know, if I was your parent I'd ground you, but you know, you sneak out the bedroom window anyways. You're grounded for not covering by zombie hour. So like I said, man, when the zombie hour comes, put a hard stop in. I think that's the best way to do it. Then you can still screw around, but then the hard stop will take you out. Definitely. Okay, I think we have a member question now. I hope we didn't miss any, but what are some of the bad habits you saw rewarded in 2020 that people aren't getting away with anymore? Travers. I like that question. Come to mine. That's a very good question. Well, let me put in some bad covers. Travers, I assume you mean more 2021 though, right? Like last year? Like specifically 2020. Let me answer that. Hold on, that's a good question. So the market's been a full trending up by the dip, by the dip, by the dip works, right? You screwed up and kept on buying more long eventually go back up. Those bad habits may catch up to you when the market stopped going up. Imagine that the market is at the top right now. Yep, doesn't work anymore. So the bad habits is keep assuming that you get build out. You have to use proper risk management. So those are the risk management is what's gonna bite people in the ass ongoing in a tough market cycle. Bill, I'm so glad you said that because I was actually gonna say the exact same thing. I was actually gonna say I don't know about small caps specifically Travers about those exact years, but I was gonna say people who do day trading in big caps everybody thought they had a 12 inch dick, right here. But now it's like, they don't know, right? Like there's some serious momentum drop. Like obviously there's things that can hinder the market. Like dude, this was you could buy anything in big caps and make money, right? So people got a really, really false sense of confidence or even just bad habits. Like they'll never lose and there might be a rude awakening for guys that are not long-term investors and are still just buying all the dips for a day trade in something like Spy or something like Tesla, for God's sakes. We've seen a lot of traders really kind of blow up on Tesla this year or last year. Same thing with crypto, right? People say, I'll just buy crypto, forget about it. I'll never go down. Definitely, I mean, here's an example there, right? GBTC guys, this is the crypto chart for this is literally the Bitcoin chart guys but in stock form because this is an index and a trust that follows Bitcoin, the price of Bitcoin. Dude, look at these, everybody thought they couldn't lose, right? But then what happens? Like reality syncing. Dude, that's a perfect example, man. I love that. Yeah. I mean, we are- Most of the problems I'll bite your ass is risk management. So keep your risk management in check. I can't remember who this was at the meetup. I don't think he was a member but he did say something. And I really, I wish I remember this guy's name and we talked about it for a second. He said, I'm not gonna single him out even if I did know his name, but he goes, dude, every dip that Bitcoin does, I buy it. I've sold like my house. I sell all my stocks. Like I literally every single dip in a grayscale which this is GBTC and Bitcoin. I'm like, look, man, like I love your passion. I love your conviction, but just make sure you know what you're doing, man. I mean, sometimes dips don't bounce back in some fields or at least not for a very long time. So just be careful, guys. Like you gotta know how markets move. And I think Traverse answered the question. I think that's what it was. If you do the same thing over and over and over eventually it doesn't work anymore cause people catch on, I'll just catch on and it'll change it. Yeah. I mean, think about all the guys right before COVID hit guys. Think about all the people that were long to spy for years and years and years and then it just imploded. Now who could have predicted, you know the biggest bull run we've ever seen since COVID? But my God, like think about the investors right here from the spy, which is inarguably the safest investment, you know, in the market. And it looked 340 at 218 people were jumping out of windows until it doesn't work, right? This is what Val is saying. Let's see. Oh, I think Alex already answered this but I guess we could probably throw our opinion in there. Oh, thanks Alex for the link. How does it begin or know if it's a day one, day two or day three? Is day one the first day the chart is breaking down? That's actually a really good question if you know nothing. So let's go to BFRI guys, right? Oops, sorry, let me go to the two day. What does this look like to you guys? Like what does this look? It's a day two. It's a day two, right? Because this chart is really doing nothing. You don't include a day where there's no volatility, right? Even to have some movement. This is not a day. It's not a day trading day. This is the first day a stock is up with volume and a catalyst. There's a reason why the stock did this. So BFRI is a day two. It's the next day and a continuation play if you want to talk about trend going down but this is day one. You know what I mean? Now, what was the other day one on the watch list? It was, was it OLB? OLB is day one. Yeah, OLB, yeah, yeah, this is day one. Look, it's doing nothing, right? Like look at the previous day, like it's literally doing nothing and then boom, it's up pre-market, it's up a good percentage. People are now, it's on their radars, it's on their scans. This is something of interest now. That's a day one play. This is now in play and tradable with volume. Cause when I was new, man, I couldn't figure that out for the first week I was trading. I was like, everybody's talking about day one, day two, I remember eight years ago I was following you on Twitter and I was like, God, that was a day two, what the fuck is that? There's a concept of a day zero two. So you take a look at a, if you take a look at BFRI, there was a day zero the day before and it was inching up. So you really don't count those as the first one. Those are not obvious. Those are the days that the people inside of information people will try to. Volume's your guide guys, volume. Yeah, day zero, I love that. Cause you can kind of get like a wind of it, right? Like if I expand this to a 20 day, you can just tell like there's a little, like what is this little inch up for a second? But this is not a major catalyst day which traders know about, cause this is not really going to hit your scans, right? As you guys can see it's just tick, tick, tick, like it's not really, it's not tradable. This is a tradable day. Does that make sense? But yeah, that was totally right about the day zero and there's, there's hints. There's clues sometimes. Let's go back where we at. Yep. So that hopefully I answered your question on the years. I'm struggling to make my winners bigger than my losers. I find myself in 10 or 20% and win, but lose 30% any advice or tips would be appreciated. Thank you, Brandon. Member. Well, first of all, remember what I said before you get into us to a tree, you have to make a plan, right? Do the math, where the plan includes what? Where you're going to enter, where you're going to exit for the winner in a lot. You've already done your math before and how do you get into the situation? Looks like, Brandon, you're winging it. You're making, you're making trades on the fly. You have not pre-planned your trades. I'm not pre-determining your risk. Yeah, I always like the risk to reward ratio. Sometimes guys on this, it's like if you're, you know, always taking a one to one or even a one to three. I mean, of course your losers are going to be bigger and maybe you hold them longer. Maybe you don't do hard stocks, but as Val just said, when you pre-plan, you say, I really can risk 20 cents here to make 80 cents. That's a big deal, right? That's a four to one, not a one to four. So like, are you guys, you know, chasing? That's always doing revenge trading, not holding a winner. These are all things that are baked into that. And then of course, like it's like, okay, I'm green, I'm going to take immediately. Sometimes you actually have to let a winner like ride a little bit, like for God's sakes, because when you let a loser ride, now you're just, that's not pre-plan. You're just adding to a loser. And of course it's going to be a bigger percentage. Okay, Brandon, you're going to have to pull up some charts and I guess submit some charts for a Saturday session, because this is a very generic question. There's so much details in what you're trying to do. Because it seems like you want to, first of all, your entries may be wrong or your stocks may be too far out or your size could be messed up. So your question is very ambiguous. It's very difficult to figure out what you're doing wrong. It could be a sizing problem, it could be stopping problem, it could be entry problem, it could be exit problem. Yeah, there's so many ways to fix that. Yeah, like David just said, there's so many variables associated with that question. And like I'll show you one. It's like, let's go to watch this today. Why don't you post one of your trades? And then we'll go through it quickly. Yeah, definitely, post them, post them. So really quick, I'm going to give you an example of watch list there, buddy, real quick. So check this out, Brandon. Alex wanted, so as you can see this, right? In AMC, Alex wanted 1750. So if you draw the, actually, if I bring up the pivot point, you'll see why, of course. But if we draw an exact line at 1750, right? Let's say right, like right there. It didn't get to it. So if you're chasing here when it doesn't get to your line, that's changing a plan. So if you're adding by the time you want to actually get a starter, of course you're going to cut it here and it might be 30% versus waiting for this. And then it drops because it's such a better, yeah, risk for reward. I'm not obsessed with that terminology, but it's a great risk for reward, but it's patience. You're always confident on your entry versus your exit. Your exits are always going to be a little sporadic. I mean, me and Val, Alex are still fixing our exits, but you can make your entries precise, man. So like that's another thing, right? It's like, if it didn't hit 1750, maybe you don't trade AMC because that's your original plan. You don't adjust and adjust and adjust on the fly. Oh, okay, he's going to post his TKLF. Good, please do. Yeah, let's critique one. Patience is a huge part of that variable, man. Huge. For when you're in the money and just waiting to get in. All right, let's see if you post. All right, we'll come back to you, Brandon. When you do post that, buddy, we'll come back to it. Let's see. Chano said, if you plan to scale sometimes only your starter pays because the other bullets don't hit whenever you scale to the top and get your stop losses on full size. Well, guys, that's why we only do 30% over VWAP. So that's why you have to really be careful upon where your sizing based on where trend is. If you're shorting up here and a stock is over VWAP and strong, I mean, you don't want to use 100% your size, right? You only want to use a certain percentage that's going to keep you in the game and safe. Alex learned that a long time ago from a really big edge from teacher. Like that's a really good lesson to learn. You can hit harder when this thing is broken down in VWAP or a low hanger, right? Let's go to YouTube. I think we've put, thank you, Addy B for helping us on YouTube, man. That's awesome. I love this. He's answering questions for us. Oh, shit. There's so much commentary. I'm trying to find the questions. Let's see, where did we stop off? One shot, one kill. That's Addy B. The last few comments of the past few weeks. Low hanging fruit and first. Oh, someone asked about this is just personally for you. Do you still trade OTCs or not anymore? If you want to answer that, I think value getting a corn dog is Uber eats to shut up. Guys, what's going on there? Trying to find it. What? Oh, did you lose me? Oh, you guys lost me for a second? I should, what's up? Oh, I was asking you. I thought we lost you. Someone asked about, do you still trade OTCs or not anymore? You don't see me post a single try on it, do you? Yeah, it's dead. They're just not around anymore, man. So there's that. They're going to be blazed, but I don't trade it because the liquidity is not there. I don't have the right brokers to trade it. And I don't touch the OTCs anymore. I have a thousand dollar account. I find it hard to scale because of my small size. What's the key to building up? I find myself being scared to one shot, one kill. How do I overcome it? I don't need to scale guys. Know where you want to get enter. You'd rather miss the trade than be early, right? So one shot, one kill when you have a small account works perfectly fine. Make sure that you want, make sure that the entry you have is pretty much perfect. Don't get FOMO, but when we get FOMO, you're dead. Two options, Timothy Tan, who just asked that question. Number one, if it doesn't hit the 1750 line, you have a small account. You can only do maybe one starter or two bullets. You got to wait for that line or you don't trade. You don't hit it down. You wait for your plan. The perfect entry or number two, we had a guy turn $1,300 and $70,000 with our options course. Small accounts are much, much more efficient if you go the options route. So I wouldn't say worry about scaling in small caps yet until you built that account, to be honest. I think you should start on options. Let's see. If you trade right guys, I don't have to worry about anything, right? But the problem is we don't know what to enter, what next? So what happens in a lot of time, human emotions get FOMO we enter earlier than we think. Yep, okay. You have to be okay with missing the trade. TKLF Brandon just posted TKLF. What is the question? Well, yeah, what was the question earlier? Looks like you made money. I know, I was gonna say, I don't think this is cool. I was gonna say, I thought you were supposed to lose her. Definitely looks like you made money. The question is, how do you hold longer? That's up to you, man. If that was your plan, then you stuck with your plan, that's fine. You did, you know, you covered that VWAP, you thought this thing is a go hire. Most people did think it's gonna go hard, but it went down, nothing you can do about it. The next time you plan better, that's it. This trade to me looks okay because your plan was to cover and you covered and you reshorted that the resistance and you covered the VWAP because you were scared that it might pop up. Yeah, and just because you're dead, but on the table doesn't mean we all don't always have deadwood. You're not gonna capture the top and the bottom. Very few people do. So next time, create a better plan and put a hard stop and then let your winners write down, maybe like, or cover only half and then hold half. Yep, I love that. That's one of the cool things about hard stops guys is if you make money on the first trade, so you short right here and then make money, the next trade you take right here, you can go, look, I'm gonna cut it for break even with a hard stop because I'm not gonna lose any more money. I've already made the money of cushion or I'm gonna sit it down for low fantasy covers and see if I get it. You're playing with very, very strict rules and a very strict P&L like kind of code with these hard stops that you, like when you hit that first trade that makes you some money, I'm not saying go be ballsy, but you can be a little bit more confident if your hard stop is set to risk break even versus getting those covers that you want and that can arguably build the muscle of holding a winner longer because it is a muscle, right? It is a muscle. Do you recommend clearing the chart of all indicators except BWAP and support and resistance lines, keeping the chart clean of EMAs, et cetera? Oh yeah. Well, it depends, EMAs make you money, if EMAs make you money, you can leave it. Leave what is on the screen that makes you money. The rest of the shit is just to try to impress people how smart you are. To judge out the more shit you have on there and the dumber you are. Yep, and you can also break it apart Fox and Bear. So like the person who asked this question. So like this is all we use for day trading for the most part, arguably, if you want to put the pivot points because it's a day two, but if I'm doing like a really big cap long swing, I'm going to do RSI. It's the only indicator I like because here's what I'll do. Like you can even see it kind of coalesce with like let's go to the spy chart on this recent dip. I loaded the boat right here. When this dipped on spy, I have like a 422 average and a couple of counts because look the RSI was super oversold that day in that moment. And I liked spy. Like that was something that I caught really nicely and I still actually have. So again, like it depends on what you're going after. Big caps, long-term swings versus day trading. It's very different, but like Bao said, man, if it makes you money, keep it for God's sakes. Yeah, but keep it simple. Like don't overthink it. Do it worse. You remember guys, you can have multiple charts up. You don't have one. You know, one with nothing on it, one with something on it, someone with more things on it. Bao, didn't you trade for like 10 years and didn't even know VWAP was a thing? Like you didn't even have VWAP on your charts for God's sakes. No one told me VWAP was a thing. Yeah, dude, you were able to do it completely blind. Like think about that. Oh my God. That's crazy. Remember guys, you guys keep thinking that you have to put everything in one chart, man. Do you have five charts that you want on one ticker? Yeah, yeah. So what you can do, guys, just give you kind of like help there. Like if you wanted to do like just say spy is the chart, you could do spy in every single one. Obviously it's going to be different because I haven't input styles or anything. But dude, you could do like, I swear to God, man. If you say this is OLB this morning, you could put a 15 minute chart for trend. You could put a three minute chart for death candles. You could put a one, it's a lot. But if it helps you and you could put EMAs, you could put a horse up and put whatever you want. Just put up your charts, man. Multiple charts, nothing wrong with multiple charts, multiple time plans, do whatever you want. Even multiple execution units on DOS guys, if you want to like be really quick through your fantasy orders and your stops, you can open up multiple montages. Like there's really ways to keep you agile. Each LBZ volume starting around. Let's take a look. Yep, it's coming in a little bit. I hate charts like this that just seem bottom out and they're just really, I just, you can't milk too much out of this chart on the short side, man. I just, I can't stand charts like this for day trading. How could, this is a good question actually. How come some mods use a two minute chart candle versus I forget which MIC video, but it was recommended to use odd numbers? Again, it's just preference, man. Personal preference, what makes you money guys? You guys are too rigid, man. Stop being too rigid. Like, oh, I need to copy exactly what this person is doing. What percentage are you doing? That's not the point. The point is to learn the process guys, because it's going to be all different. Whatever works for you, because your strategy is going to be a little bit different than another person's. Your personality is going to be a little different. You're going to hold things longer or shorter, but you're going to have different sizes. So don't be focused on the little minutia of shit, the difference between two minute chart, one minute chart. Why don't you try them all and see which one works for you? Definitely. And just a quick general rule of thumb, ET617, is a one minute chart is for scalps technically, a three minute chart is more for confirmations to see the stuff moves clear, to see the depth candle, that's what I like. And then a five minute chart is for trend, and then a 15 minute chart is for super trend. That's technically what they're designed for, but when you are new, you don't know what works for you. You try them all, have multiple charts up and see which one works best for you. Definitely, definitely. I realized a long time ago, man, I just could, I hated a one minute chart personally, and I just never want to use even numbers because they're like multiplicative and a derivative of each other, right? So I only believe in the odd numbers, but again, man, if you're making money on a two minute chart, who am I to tell you stop doing that? You might discover what you like, just you gotta play around, guys. You guys don't shoot enough darts. You try to copy, you guys gotta find your identity, man. Everybody's different. Not everybody's made to be a swing trader or a scalper or a channel trader. You're gonna find by doing. Yeah, you're really gonna start liking because you do it, you identify with it. You go, I actually tried that. It's like, dude, my best friend in the world, right? Now, here's a funny example, right? With girls and stuff. My best friend in the world is 17 years that has never been with another woman and he married his high school sweetheart. And guess what? Every fucking FaceTime, he's like, dude, I wonder what it's like to be with another woman. I'm like, yeah, no shit, Sherlock. You've only used BWAP your whole life. Like, I was like, yeah. That's okay. Don't learn that from top shit. Don't learn that from me. That's a terrible habit. That's a terrible analogy. That's a real terrible analogy. But the point is, man, it's like you gotta learn by doing what you like, right? All right, just try, guys. The thing is when you're new to something, try something you don't know. How do you know you don't like shorting until you try shorting? How do you know, you know, you know, just try different multiple charts, simple like that. Definitely. This is the one profession that you can, you can have an orgy of charts and no one's gonna be mad at you. You can bang out 20 different positions if you want. If you bang out, dude. Exactly, bro. You could really find the curvature you love in these charts. Oh my God, man. Sonny, good shit, I'm getting divorced. You know what, man? Sometimes a max date of loss is good. Ha ha ha. Weird smash, man. Sonny, you haven't hit enough child support yet. That's the ultimate max date of loss, man. Let's see. Any more questions, guys? Hopefully you can hear me better. I just realized there's like this thin layer on this computer where apparently the sound comes off and I still had this like invisible tape that I just ripped off. So hopefully you guys can hear me better. I could, this is quite a trip, this. Yeah, okay, cool, you guys. So it'll be like this every time now. This fucking thing was invisible, but I just saw it randomly. Guys, questions, do you have questions? Post them right now. Do you have any questions? Let's get through these. We're here to help you guys learn. Do not be shy. Be like Samuel in LA, man. This guy came up and said, I'm here to learn it. I love that kind of personality, man. Get in my fucking hot tub every day. Ha ha ha. Hot tub time machine. I'm cool. There's enough dudes in the house. There's enough dudes in the house. All right. But you know what, man? I love it. The thing is when we went to the meetup, there must have been like 10 young guys under 20, which is Samuel and those guys, right? Yeah. And the rest are like, well, older age. And the young kids just took it by storm. So thank you, Samuel. Thank you, all the young guns, man. All the old guys were scared. They like sidled their way over and whispered a comment. Like, dude, get on the mic. You're here to learn, man. Yes, yeah. Yeah, I'm covering. I'm making some money here. Thanks, Alex, for answering that. We'll answer as well, guys, because I'll read out the question. If I short before SSR turns on, I can cover during SSR, right? Yes, yes, you can. So check out the videos on SSR. We have some tips on there. SSR is sometimes they hit the SSR on the dot on purpose to turn it on. So be careful about shorting at the SSR level. If anything, you want to cover some there, just in case it bounces right off. See, guys, I literally just went to the window right here. I typed in SSR. Don't make the mistake I did earlier if you have something typed right here and you click something and click search, no results will come up. But dude, SSR. Hey, guess what? We got videos on it. Boom. Tosh, do you own any trousers at the meetup you were wearing shorts in pretty much freezing weather? Dude, I hate pants, bro. I really do. I hate clothes in general, man. I wear the same fucking thing every day. A shirt, shorts, and converse. I hate clothes. I hate them. I can't stand them. You are a nudist, bro. Dude, I wear a robe 90% of my life, bro. If I was skinny and had your body, maybe I'd be the same, bro. I absolutely hate clothes, bro. I'm robe gang, baby. Like, dude, I'll be naked if I do it. Lucky you, lucky you. I had to put clothes to shower. Alex was dressed like a ski trip with Dan Bilzerian. That's so funny, dude. I'm the only guy fully clothed in a parka in a nudist colony. Yeah, seriously, David. This is like how I wish I could dress 24-7. Oh, man. Sammy was rocking the skinnies. Who else, man? Like, everybody had their thing, right? I was cracking up, man. You guys are too skinny, man. OK, I can't do it. Alex had the puffer jacket, man. He was going down the double black diamond on his snowboard, bro. He had the big old Dior on. I love it. He came from New Jersey. He's cold, man. Yeah, I know. People ask me, they're like, Tasha, you're cold. I'm like, dude, I live in Arizona, bro. I used to all that. Dude, the only reason I dressed up was like, fuck. There's going to be cameras there and all this shit. I show up everybody looking like a dirtbag. Bow's like, I got to look good for this shit, because if George snaps a good photo, I'll put this on my bumble from up. Dude, seriously, I'm like, shit. Oh, man. We're just ourselves, man. I dress the same way every day. I think Bow does, too, unless he feels like there's a photo off. And so does Alex. Like, you got your style. You got your, dude, it's no different from what you like trading. My dress style is exactly like my charts. It's simple and bare. Like, it's, you know what I mean? You got to do what feels comfortable, man. I thought it was so cool how you were actually the same in person as you are in the webinars and in chat. I think we all are. Was that me or Bow? That's funny, man. I know people think when they meet us, like we're different people. I'm like, dude, the guy that you are hearing right now is exactly who you're going to meet in person. Let's see. Any questions? Oh, a question. Salman, what's up, buddy? What was the small cap market like before March 2020? Dead slow, or is this just a cycle? Or it's just a employee. That's pretty specific. It's very specific. No, dude, it's been on fire forever, man. It really has. The only time it's ever been slow in my trading career, and I'll never forget it because I almost shit my pants thinking there was never going to be a small cap again, was when Brexit ran. And Alex, if I'm not mistaken, what was that seven, six years ago near the drys days? Dude, Brexit happened, and I couldn't find the small cap to move for three months, dude. And I was like, great, now I got to go back to construction work. Like, dude, it was crazy. There was nothing moving. Outside of that, before COVID, when everybody established like, hey, we're going to bring all these new people in the market and throw money in, summers used to be so frickin' slow, dude, we'd have to pile drive. We'd walk all over each other for one play. Now summers are actually quite active compared to four or five years ago. So, dude, I'm telling you right now, man, you guys are spoiled these days, dude. You don't know what it was like like back in the day. This is a lot of fucking action. So what happened was the market's pretty damn slow, and we thought we were pretty dead until the pandemic happened. The pandemic happened, dude, the volume went out to bonkers because people were at home trading. Yep, and what's so cool about that is like, now, now, dude, every 17, thank God, because it's going to give us volatility. Every 17-year-old kid has a Robin Hood and a chance to, now they know how to invest in the market. And a lot of people who are stuck at home, I know that part of life sucked, but people learn the market. Now there's all this money that, and once you kind of see how the market works and the efficiency of it, they're in it, dude. They're intrigued. Like a lot of money's here to stay. I think it's really cool, man. It was a huge opportunity for people to really understand the markets and the convenience and thank God for things like Robin Hood. They made it so even a 16-year-old could understand it. And now they'll probably gravitate and mature a little bit and be like, OK, no, they lost all their money back. Yeah, they mortgaged the house on freaking AMC. But that's what it is, man. Yeah, man, you guys got to still be educated. But the beautiful thing is people are introduced to the market in such a heavy fashion. I think a lot of that volume that came in is here to stay because people realize what this vehicle is. It's unbelievable. It's extraordinary. Where the fuck else can you click buttons and make an easy $300 a day, dude? I'm sorry. Where can you do that outside of the markets, dude? Yeah, you don't touch. You can be a nubless monkey and do it. You go, girl. The passion is here, baby. Holy shit, man. You guys should have seen it as a person, dude. It was funny, man. We were too passionate. We were fighting over each other for that microphone. Did anybody set up a folder or another way for us to send pictures for the meetup? Oh, sick of that. Can please DM Alex any photos that you have for the meetup? We need to get some. Please, please. Any angles, guys, post them all. We'd love to see it get different perspectives. We have our photos that are coming. But that'd be great to see member photos as well. Can I give you my money to trade for me until I become consistent? Peter, I'm sorry, brother. It don't work like that, man. On a scam group? Sure, dude. You could go, yeah, give us your money. We'll give you a percentage that not here, dude. We teach you how to be, like, self-sufficient, buddy. But that's hysterical, man. I hope you're half-kidding, but I really do. Holy shit. Happy to answer, Salman, definitely. I'm pretty sure you probably could trade better than us. So the only difference is we believe and trust the system, guys. If you guys start to believe and trust the system, they're worse. Seriously. Hey, Tosher, are you buying real estate in the metaverse? Dude, ad-edee, no, bro, no. And the only reason why is because there's 10,000 metaverses right now, and I feel like there's going to be 10,000 more. And I just, I don't know, dude. It's a crapshoot of crapshoots. I know I'm not. Yeah, you guys are talking about buying fucking that metaverse. You don't even have a fucking apartment of your own, you know? No, this dude's good. This is ad-edee. He helps us a lot. This is not some random shit. OK, I'm just saying in general, guys. I see all these people buying shit on the fucking virtual reality shit, they don't have a car. They're living in a parent's basement, but they own fucking land on the metaverse. I'm like, bro, man. It's like buying a fucking, a JPEG of a fucking burger and you're starving. You can't fucking eat. My favorite photo about is the meme where it's like a college dude with like 10,000 beers on the floor and stuff. He's like, oh, I just bought a board. He just bought a land in metaverse. Have fun staying porn. He's like, bro, you shit like you can't even afford a sandwich. That's the thing that boggles the mind, man. I'm sure there's there's lots of millionaires on the metaverse. But, you know, like, shit, that that goes away one day. Who knows? I'm just an old school guy. I'm old school. Yeah. So guys, the first thing to do is you focus on fucking what traditionally makes money once the moment you make money. You can you can then start to take that money and start dabbling in other things right now. What makes money is trading stocks the way we teach it. Yep. Yep. Absolutely. And putting your money in certain vehicles, it's like, Addy, I would never like I just have no interest in that metaverse stuff and crypto stuff. I just really don't spy is proving itself for 100 years, man. If I'm going to put my money anywhere, it's going to be here. Like, like, I just I go with I'm conservative and I'm very old school by the book like that. Maybe because I'm 31, I'm not a 17 year old. I don't know. But, dude, I go like, dude, more above the number one rule, don't lose money. Rule number two, don't fucking lose money. Like, you know what I mean? So I don't know, man. Crypto can make people rich. It can make people broke. There are certain vessels that make people rich. Garen fucking tea. So, you know, about you should tell the low hanging fruit porn star Samuel. He didn't even tell it the first time. Yeah, I have so I have so many porn stars towards me. Dude, we had to stop in mid sentence in the crowd because they're trying to rather kids. Look at me. The parents are like, no, no. Dude, everybody is like walking into the orgy or something. Dude, the fuck I remind me, Samuel. What was I talking about? Bro, the funniest moment I think I've ever had without a long time is we're at Fogo to Chow for a mod dinner, guys. Like, we had our moderators and stuff. We finally got to meet some people like I literally never made a audio and stuff. Dude, Claudia has given me like a 50 minute discussion. I think I know it is. It was how to level up properly because some of these guys are talking about fucking that strategy. I'm like, dude, it's like, if you fucking fucking if you are a virgin, you decide to fuck a porn star for the very first time, you will have traumatic sexual traumatic PTSD for the rest of your life. OK, level up properly, guys. That's why my first my first sexual experience was with another virgin. None of us knew what the fuck we were doing. Dude, Dan Valzerian's first sexual experience was with a whore. So it's just like different stories, man. So I was like, you know, man, if I if I first expect some experience with someone's experience, I may not have sex again. I know it's like, you know, I'm, you know, everybody has some sort of insecurity. What the hell it may be, right? So when it comes to that kind of department, same thing with trading guys level up properly, you guys are trying to slay the fucking dragon and all you wear is a loincloth, right? You need fucking proper protective gear. You need to learn how to stroke that sword correctly, man. I could give you a big old sword, but you don't know how to use a sword. You're fucking to stab yourself. Stroke the sword. You know what you must learn to stroke the sword correctly, guy. Can I stroke the shield instead? Dude, I was cracking up. Because David Bobby, who knows David Bobby, our wagyu specialist, bro. He is exactly in person, as I thought. He messes me on Instagram, dude. He was talking about those freaking lake extensions, three inches. Apparently, because I think David Bobby said he's like five, seven. He messes me on Instagram today. He's like, bro, I'm going to go get one of those lake extensions. The next time I see you in LA, I'll be five, ten. He's five, seven, yeah. He's being jealous. It's just, I was cracking up. That's the funny shit I've ever heard. Level up properly, guys. Level slowly proper. That's why Boxers, MA guys, they don't send a young kid out to fight Mike Tyson right away, right? Oh man, Jake Paul's fighting retired wrestlers, dude. Yeah, so what you do is you beat up the easy stuff first. He's like, you know, that's why, you know, I teach you guys to trade the easy stuff. That's why I call it the low hanging fruit. I'm not telling you to go fucking climb a fucking giant great oakwood tree, redwood tree, to pick the acorn on top of that fucking tree, you know. Get the easy shit in the bottom, man. If Ben Askern was the low hanging fruit for Jake Paul, this is not a coincidence, guys. When you know what you're doing, you know what you're doing, but you got to have the clear path. Like you got to pick the right opponent, stock selection, right? So for long as the low hanging fruit is the, to me, as long as unfortunately, right now the stocks are going down. So what you do is that every stock has a bounce. So you stock the first bounce. The first bounce is the same as a pair ball and move up. Every stock has to bounce. So you stock the support lines of stocks that bounce. But yeah, be very careful in this market, though. They fucking go down like A-R-V-L and never fucking go back up. They go back down like B-K-K-T. So it's very dangerous being along. But you know what, man? There are times when being along for the past 12 years, it was fucking great. You could be an idiot and buy every fucking low floating goes up. So now you're crying that you can't make money going long. So now the shorts are making money, right guys? It goes in cycles like that. And so what happens is, you know, if you can't make money going long, why don't you learn to trade short? Paper trade, figure it out. Even if you do not want to trade short, knowledge of being a short seller helps you become a better long-sided trader. Definitely, definitely. And guys, like one of the number one things we teach, right? It's like, don't long on day three. Like day one, day two, this is not a good long. You should know this by the momentum drop by the third day, three day rule. Like you should know this. This is stuff that you learn at MIC. This is stuff that you learn. It's not day one. Oh, it's 3.30 already, shit. I lost track of time. Oh, shit. Yeah, we only have 30 minutes, if that. Oh, shit. I gotta fucking not get into traps. Bro, cut those fantasy orders, man. Yeah. You go, girl. Yeah. Yeah. Because I cover the shell, like what time is it? Oh, fucks. Maybe it's a good time. Time goes quick on these letters, man. Knowledge is about to reach to this computer, man. Get your order. Yeah, I am. So the 3.30 rules, you know, ma'am, don't step yourself into strong stocks. Don't open, don't want to cancel all open orders right now. I did OK today for a slow ass day. I'm just going to cover up what I got. Yee. Hey, yee. Yeah, look at this, man. Look at this dumbass shit I'm in, right? So age, so I didn't lose money. This stock, I'm actually only down 78 bucks, I mean. But to me, that's a loss today because I've been on this no-glue streak. I was up this morning, so I gave it back. Stupid shit like that, yeah? So that too makes a bad trade. I lost track of time. I'm OK with it. I only have five and a share short left. 1,000 shares short of 378 or some shit like that. I know, pal. This is why I hate these charts, man. I was saying it's like, man, they're just like, they inch up because there's just, it doesn't feel like it can come down. I hate these. But they're tempting. They're so tempting to hit. I know. I get it, dude. I get it. I'm just trying to cover up and get the hell out, you know. Yeah, man, it's crazy. It's crazy how fast the time goes on these webinars. You look up and you're like, oh my god, it's almost over. Yeah, we have fun. So we're talking about real shit. So what's up, guys? What's up? Guys, questions, questions, questions. Hit us with your questions. Bow's got a lot of energy today. This is where you want to have questions. Sometimes Bow's too tired. Yeah, because I slept like freaking all week, man. Oh, man, that's awesome. Remember, I remember my old slept under Chinese New Year. Oh, yeah. That was like, fuck dude. So that was a sign, dude. That was a fucking sign. Bow's like, dude, I woke up at 2 AM to shower because you can't be dirty for the Chinese New Year. I was like, dude, I thought I was superstitious. I was showering at 2 AM. I was like, that's some shit for you. I saw Alex online. I was like, what are you doing up there? I was showering. He's like, are you all right? What the fuck's going on? It's like I'm washing my ass for the New Years, dude. You got to be clean, baby. I'm fucking showering at 2 AM. And then I'm laying in bed at 3 AM, waiting for the market open. Next to that, I overslapped. Bow, I say this with love, dude. You're my absolute brother. You're a nut, dude. Every day is the life of some new version of a movie. Oh my god, man, it's so cool. It's anxiety, guys. Anxiety levels is the killer in life, right, guys? I have that, too. So do what fucking makes you OK. Superstition is rituals. This stuff is all about anxiety levels. Bro, we're like baseball players. We're so goddamn anxiety all the time with our process and rituals. Like, dude, give Alex a blue solo cup, dude. And he will literally trick his brain to lose $50,000 that day. I'm telling you, man, we're set in our ways, bro. I'm the same way. You can't change the rituals that work, man. Superstition is shit, dude. I'm telling you. I don't know what to add. It's all about managing anxiety. So whatever it takes, man. Bro, I'll never forget the story where you bought a brand new $5,000 laptop. And when I first met you, you tried to sell it to me because this first two trades on it were red. I was equally superstitious. I'm like, I'm not buying that fucking curse laptop. Dude, I gave it away to someone, man. Fuck, I couldn't take it anymore. It was a curse laptop. So I gave it to my friend to put it on eBay. And a year later, he goes, I can't sell for some reason. It's like, it's like the fucking, like one of those fucking Stephen King novels. Like a lemon car, dude. It's like everything about that car is just bought. Oh my God, man. Tried to sell me a freaking laptop or either the first two red, two red trades. I'm like, I don't want that shit. Give me red trades after that. I didn't hear it though. You're red trades. Good thing I didn't fucking lose money the first time I moved into a new house or something. Oh my God, dude. That would have literally like gone back to Vietnam if that was the case. He got a move. Raoul, have you ever, like what's the worst case of superstition you've actually given into? Like, have you done that? Have you like moved? Missed it. You're like, I'd rather not say. Do I pick my house numbers very specific for reasons? Like, you know- Oh, I did too. I did too. I'm big in numerology, man. I only pick eights, dude, because they're money. Yeah, well, I'll wear a shoe going on, man. I went up one. You know, you know, weird we are, guys. Which is a bunch of weirdos. Tosh, whatever the moon, dude, whatever my moon shaman says, I just follow like a goddamn sheet, dude. You would think I was following like a, like a freaking farmer pump. Like a moon shaman pump. Now, do you pick the direction of your house? Dude, oh, I have one. I have one, man. Better than the laptop. Dude, I, so I bought a house. And I like, for privacy, I put up something that blocked the front door, right? Because I like privacy. Next, you know, I'm like, why am I losing money, right? And so somebody came to my house and did a Feng Shui thing that, dude, you're not supposed to block them. So I fucking demolish this whole fucking front entry of the house so that can fucking like, so it can be open. And the other thing is like money can, you can't have the front door aligned with your back door because money will flow in, money will flow out. So I fucking, I re-raised. So I basically tore down the wall in the back yard to move the fucking door over, shit like that. So this dish is shit like that. Dude, I get it. I, apparently I just heard the last week and now I keep my freaking toilet seat down. I live alone and apparently you can't have the toilet seat out because in numerology, or what's the, dude, apparently money flows out of the toilet seat. I'm like, the shitter dude. Maybe it's your girlfriend, bro. That's like her way to put the toilet seat down. She's like, that's bad Feng Shui, bro. Alex is like, I'm coming with you guys. Fucking Feng Shui. Close your toilet seats and your accounts are gonna start exploding. Fucking. Oh shit, I think we missed some questions. Okay, going back real quick. Tosh, is your stop always high of day or does it depend on a percentage of exposure? Brother, it's almost never high of day unless I'm close to, so like I'll just give an example, right? So this is a really random example, but if I'm shorting near the lines at the top, near the high of pre-market, then it will be like a high of day or a pre-market break. But what if I'm way down here and I'm just looking for a VWAP short, I might only risk to the next resistance level. So absolutely not, be careful with that. Just because you're shorting here doesn't mean you always give it to a high of day or a pre-market break. Sometimes it's way too far. So be careful with that. It's very much dependent on the chart. All right, there was that question. If I wanna start learning but haven't saved enough yet to pay for a membership, what YouTube videos should I watch or what is a good point to learn? So the best way to answer that, brother, is not which YouTube videos I should watch, all of the fucking videos. You go to YouTube and you say, I need to watch every single video in this library until I can afford a membership, every single one. Oh yeah, watch the videos learn and then in the meantime, save. That's how Tom, I'm moderator, Tom Diesel did it, right? He drove Uber at night while he was studying and learning. Uber at night afforded him to have his trading account. Yeah, and dude, he watched every single video we made, man. Like there's not a video. He was down to 700 bucks, guys. So we made a video on that. Down to 700 fucking dollars. Now he's like a significant trader. Hell yeah, hell yeah, hell yeah. Work ethic, guys, work ethic. It's not which videos, it's all of the videos. The more you watch, the more, you know, it helps, that's it. Thanks, Edward. Love it, dude. Thanks for the support, man. I was just coming out some crap that I was holding for a while now, so. Okay, last question on YouTube. Can you tell beforehand, by looking at day one, two in pre-market, if a stock is going to bounce around VWAP or pick a direction and go? So, GJ. Yeah, if I can, I'll be a billionaire. I know, I was gonna say, dude, we have private islands. The best way I would say on like, here, I'll just give you an example, like on OLB today, buddy, is on stocks that are usually like really over VWAP, they sometimes they have a tendency to keep going, but sometimes they don't. Like the reason why I want to bring this up is like, they're like, if we knew we'd have private islands, right? Like people thought this stock would remain strong and continue going, and look, they got dumped on. And then sometimes something's where review up and it blasts up. So, you know. Playbuyer's percentages, this is why scale in and scale out, cause I don't know. So I take some before, I take some after. But if you have a higher conviction rate of what it's gonna do, then you don't need a scale like I do. I don't, I'm a nervous wreck. I don't like to take some early, I take some later. Yeah, scaling. There's just no way to know exactly where to get into. Seriously. And if you do, then you, then it's pre-planned and you cut it if you're wrong. But there's no way to be like, oh, it's only going here and it has the potential to go here, I'm gonna be a billionaire cause you would be, you'd never be wrong. But this is where pre-planning always comes back into place. What's this? How would I exaggerate what happens to them when they leave the stocks? That's apparently what happens to money. Guys, any closing questions? We have 20 minutes, but we'll probably wrap up a little bit before the close. These are great questions, they man. We've covered- Let me update you on the small account challenge thing. Oh yeah, Bell has his relatively small account challenge. Right guys, we don't do that bullshit where it's like, what can I turn $2,000 into? That's just a marketing scheme. But Bell did a PDT account. What can I turn 25,000 into trading relatively small? What the average trader would trade? Look where it's at. It's low and this account, I played it safe pretty much, made 1,500 bucks. So I'm pretty much double the account, not gonna win. Bell, and when's the last time we talked about this? Two weeks ago? Dude, this is sick. Maybe three at the most. The thing is the past week, I barely had any money of 900 bucks, 700 bucks, but all added up. I had no losing trade and no losing days, not gonna win. I didn't attack the big, I didn't trade KSCP, I didn't trade DWAC, I didn't trade any of those risky stocks. And what's cool is like, if this was Bell's normal account, not like this experimental account, he'd wire out, because look at where the money is. You don't need 50K in the account, like wire out, bring it back, bring it back. I might wire back out to like 35 or something. Just show that, you know, it's like, who the hell knows, right? Definitely. I don't like seeing that money in there because mentally it gives me a cushion and I hate those cushion games. But who knows? I'll leave it in there as long as I can. But notice like this only traded a month on this account and doubled the account. So at this rate, if I just made 20 grand a month, it's a great fucking, it's a great year for the $25,000 account to make that every month, right? Not gonna win. Dude, it's the year of the ox, right? No, it's your year, right? And I'm telling you, I did this as a realistic thing to show you, I have another counter-trade too, but this account, you know, you can look at it and it's like, dude, this is something that you guys can aim for. This is something realistic, so. He did this account guys to show you that it's really more your fear holding you back than anything because dude, he very simply turned a $25,000 account double in one month using actually really relatively small size. I don't compound, this is not a compounding account. I'm not one of those guys that's gonna fucking try to make a million dollars on this account. I wanna do this as an educational thing to show you that, you know, realistically you can make a great supplemental income living off of this. Yep. Hell yeah. So take a look at this. If you just make it $200 a day, it's 50 grand a year doing $150,000 a year. So at my rate, this is gonna make hopefully $250 a year, knock on wood. Dude, well, let's see what it does, right? I mean, for $25,000 to $250 a week, it's very realistic. I'm not here to make money. I'm not here to risk. I am taking a look at, from a standpoint of a normal guy working in 95 that has an extra 30 grand that he wants to learn to trade and how many grow that 30, 25 grand, right? Definitely. Now there's actually- This is not me trading. This is not me trading a $30,000 account where I'm gonna be aggressively trading knowing that I have a bunch of bank grow in the background. This is me trying to put myself in your footsteps. Now someone asked, how much money are you risking per trade on the small account challenge? Oh dude, I am. Fuck man, let me show you. Look at this. This account is like peanuts. I'm not even trading much. I'm being very careful with this account. That's extreme peanuts for you, man. That's what I'm saying. So I mean, when opportunity comes, I'll hit it harder when it doesn't. So this is a small account. This is the account that I'm gonna show everything. See what I was saying? Edward, how Bao's super comfortable with trading multiple positions at once? A new trader cannot do what he just posted. Like you have to build up to that. You have to get used to handling so many positions in a single day. In a single day. So there's not much money, but it adds up. And when there's opportunity, there's not many opportunity, right guys? So when there's opportunity, I can size up more. But right now it's just, I'm just doing like 500 share bullets, dude. Definitely, definitely. Look at the results man, one month. This is, I mean, dude, this is more money than I made. Like I mean, do you imagine you make a thousand bucks a day? That's a fucking great job. But this is supplemental income. Love it. I love it, man. Hi, Balintosh. Can I have your input on a trade? Since OLB kept making pre-market highs, low flow, five times flow rotation by the open with a catalyst. I was looking for a dip to get out at the opening, risking those lows for a bounce toward high of day. So we'll pull up his chart and we'll pull, oh, and we're already on OLB. Notice I have a three minute chart guys. So it might look a little different than this one, but this is a one minute. But yes, yes. It looks like about right here. I'd have to link it up with a one. I don't have a one, but how do you want to go first? What was your question? Sorry. Since OLB kept making pre-market highs with where it's low flow, flow rotation by the open with a catalyst, I was looking for a dip out of the open, risking lows for a first bounce. So it's basically us critiquing. He bought on a dip, but then took a loss on it. I mean, dude, some of this shit doesn't work out. So this is my OLB trade. I was literally just gonna say the same thing now. It's like not every dip is gonna work. So I'm short of this shit and then I fucked up. You know what I mean? Shit like this one. Some of these places just too fucking hard, dude. Yeah, like this was a loss on the short side. Like that was a loss on the long side. This was flat most of the day. You had to guess the direction. And I'm like, that's fine. I don't need to make money on every single stock they trade. But like, I can't hate your thinking brother. I mean, this was a pretty big stuff at highs. So like, I don't love the dip that you bought, but again, I mean, you bought pretty much at VWOP. If we go back to the chart, I think so. You bought a little over VWOP, but you bought on a major dip on technically a strong stock that wasn't total backside yet. So what can you do? You can put a hearts up. And if it doesn't work, it doesn't work. You're not gonna win every trade, you know? Sounds like a good plan, but day one gappers have been getting crushed lately. It is what it is. And that's the other thing guys is the market is cyclical. So like if you do see everything getting crushed and like maybe know that, you know, that is something to take note, you know? I'm not super bullish on a long side when things are getting crushed. And I'm not super bullish on the short side. When Bao was saying, like he said at the meetup, dude, Bao, what was that like one month timeframe where if you shorted, you were dead. I totally forgot. You mentioned it. You talked about it. Yeah, there was the low flow period where everyone was fucking making a ton of money about pumping everything low floater. And just went, yeah. You know? So it's like, that was a period that every level two got lag because there's so much volume in AMC and all that kind of shit. And so anything that fucking, anybody that fucking pumped shit went up. So during that time, you notice I went long a lot during that time. Cause I was like, fuck me. I'm going to prevent myself from killing myself going short, but no long. So I went long. There's a lot of times remember a deviation from move off. I talked about that a lot, a lot of those stocks trapped. And so I went long. I made money during when people were blowing up going short. So you have to understand like sometimes it's good for short. Sometimes good for long. Dude, and that lasted a month, bro. So like sometimes you don't know how long the cycles are going to last. But if you notice the trend just be a little bit more on edge, you know? And specifically during that month you have to be a lot more on edge. I mean, dude, me and Alex were looking at each other like, bro, maybe don't short for a month. Like it was crazy, bro. It was really crazy. But there also are times where like Travers just said day one gappers are beginning a little bit crushed lately. Take note of that. Just take note of that and be maybe a little less aggressive or maybe even look for a better entry. You know what I mean? Preplan everything, set your risk and that's the best we can do. It's the best we can do. You're not going to win every trade. I'm glad that was helpful, man. I think we discussed that as best we could. Let's see. So that was that question. I think, let's see. Tosha in your trading room, do Alex bow and you keep updating about what you guys are trading. Dude, I'm telling you like look at the main trading chat, man, seriously. Like all you have to do is scroll through this guys. This is the whole open. Like this is the whole market day, right? Like you'll see scans. You'll see watch lists. You'll see charts. You'll see commentary. Like, dude, we're not a one man show that like if bow doesn't show up, there's nobody else. Guys, we have moderators. We have the three of us to help. Like bow's commenting all day. Like in the morning, we're growing a world like, dude, I'm telling you, man, it's a hands-on group. Yeah, Salman, I think you'll really like MIC, man. I'm telling you. Like we don't phone this shit in, dude. We really don't phone it in. And even on the back and even on the customer service side we try to do our best. As a company as a whole, man, we put together all of these resources so you guys have a very seamless experience, you know? Obviously there's rules. Like, you know, be respectful and keep a business in the main trading chat, you know, each day and then maybe goof around in after hours. But, I mean, that's a few rules, you know? It's for the members. As the bow chose on the subway sandwich, you're right over there, buddy. No. Dude, I know Samuel probably knows that dude, I was dying at how much pizza you were eating at the meetup. I didn't know someone could eat that much pizza. I was eating so if no one fucking talks to me, leave me alone. Dude, we were literally giving presentations and talking about leads over me. He goes, man, I want some of that pizza. Like, he couldn't even wait until we stopped talking. Dude, I'm just trying to get people to talk to each other, trying to have people share stories. I don't want people to line up and just talk to me only. So I think it did well, you know? Forced people out of their shell, because people are shy, you know? So trust me, we're all the same. Definitely, man. Val, I got one word for you. Ivermectin. Hey, yeah, if you want. I don't know if there was a pick without Val with food in his hands. Seriously, that's so funny. I'm glad you guys enjoyed it, man. Couple more minutes. Guys, literally last minute question, we only have 10 minutes left. Can we get a quick chat about how we define a stock? Is trading thick versus thin? What are the main factors to identifying implications? Dude, that's awesome. I didn't see this pick. Oh, that's awesome. This is the young group, dude. This is the young crowd right here. Jay Trego, we got the twins. Dude, this is crazy. Alex is going skiing or snowboarding, man. Got the puffer out. I love that jacket. I'm dressed like I'm freaking going to Miami. And Val's dressed like he's ready to go on a Tinder date. We were dressed so different. All three of us. Oh, shit, where were we? Do you want to talk about that? Stock trading thick versus thin? Pizza. Thick versus thin? Well, a quick chat on how we define when a stock is trading thick versus thin. What are the main factors? The main factors, volume, man. Like is it skipping up? Is it launching? The thing is thick and thin. I wouldn't even ask that. Well, it's very obvious, right? If the number of volume going through but the stock is moving at penny to penny, that's thick. It's thick as hell. If a few shares spikes up huge, then you know it's thin. Definitely. Yeah, just teleporting up, skipping up on air. So the float should indicate that but sometimes it does not just like MDJH. MDJ supposedly has a million but do 10,000 shares barely budget in the morning. Yep, yep. So you can tell, man, mostly with the volume and don't rush in, right? Like don't rush into a stock that's trading very thin because you guys might get obliterated in two candles that might teleport and then teleport again and then circuit breaker halt and then teleport again. You guys don't know, right? So I mean, look, it's not a bad question but it's a simple question. You can really tell based on just the volume but also it's something I really pay attention to, right? Is the rate of change of the stock? Rate of change of the price of the stock? Definitely. Acceleration, if you wanna fucking... Yeah, acceleration is really the correct term, I'm sure. Thick and thin is really... That's actually coined by another chat room that just lasted the test of time. It's really just what's the acceleration and the potential in range on the price moments? Like that's really what it is. It's acceleration, I love that. And price potential. We think though, I mean, we might have a question for... This is how you know if it's thick. Still to this day, I think that's the best front meme there is or give. All right, I'm down to D-Wack. D-Wack? You trading D-Wack? Yeah, baby, I'm playing, yeah, I'm a king. Dude, this share is small shares for fucking around. You're not, dude, I love it. Nice, nice. Hit it right here. Not on the educational account. Too risky. Seriously. Now you guys stay with your low hangers. Yup, the slow, the educational account gets the easy low hanging fruit plays, guys. That's how I'm building this account. I'm avoiding the risky place. Tony, we'll make this the last question. How come sometimes low floats move super thick and larger floats can skip through prices? Is it because the float values are using, I'm using are inaccurate. That's very possible. Dude, there's more. If you think that they have to report their real float, you're joking yourself. If you think that they have to report their real dilution, you're joking yourself. They can hide shares. So you guys, you'll take a look at the girl, they're wearing makeup. You think the girl looks like that in real life without makeup on? The same thing. Yeah, seriously. Dude, I can't tell you how many times over the years, man, literally, like, dude, dude. Dude, Val, you're right, man. How many times over the years did we trade a stock and you, me, or Alex lost or some of us lost and we go back and we're like, oh my God, dude, it was a two million flow. I thought it was nine million. Like dude, it happens. Or today, Alex went along on MDJH because it's like one million shares that there's no dilution in the filings. And look what happened. Boom, walked down all day. Someone is diluting this. Someone is diluting this while you know it. There's many ways to hide this shit. They don't have to report these things. They reported later. They can hide it in so many different ways. And this is why, guys, this is why, because you don't always have all the facts or maybe you even have wrong facts, this is why you use a freaking stop. Because if you don't use a stop, you're going on bias. You're going on, oh, dude, it's guaranteed a three million flow because fucking Finbiz said so and I'm convicted. No, dude, it might be half a million flow. Like you gotta have your stops, guys. Please. The way I base it on the flow, guys, how thick the stock trade.