 I've been going to jail all my life. It started off at the state prisons. And we could go there like every weekend. So, but then other than that, just growing up as a kid without a father in the house, you know, I didn't tell, when they talked about your father at school, I didn't talk about mines. And, you know, I just kind of kept that to myself again. But how did that make you feel? As a child, if you can remember. I imagine it was kind of, you know, embarrassing. I didn't, it was like, it was something I didn't want to bring up. Yeah, we on boss talk, one on one, one on one. Yeah, we going to talk. We want to take it back to when you were growing up, young Larry Hoover. Junior. Junior. Tell us what it was like growing up, growing up without a father. Or should I say? Without a father in the home. In the home. And how much did he still play role in your family, although he was locked up? Well, I'm going to say he played a, he still played a big role in my life because between my mother and my grandmother, I was always able to go see my father. See, it's a lot of kids that end up in situations like I was in, where if the relationship with the mother is not good and she don't deal with the father and the father's own. If she doesn't deal with the, if it's a bad relationship between the father and the father's family, then that puts a strain on the relationship. But I didn't have that problem. My mother would take me to see my father. But you can only go visit him once a month? No, no, he was in state. Okay, at that time. So I've been going to jail all my life. It started off at the state prisons. And we could go there like every weekend. So, but then other than that, just growing up as a kid without a father in the house, you know, I didn't tell, when they talked about your father at school, I didn't talk about mines. And, you know, I just kind of kept that to myself again. And how did that make you feel as a child, if you can remember? I imagine it was kind of, you know, embarrassing. I didn't, it was like it was something I didn't want to bring up. You know, by the time I realized, I think I got my times mixed up, but by the time that I realized he was in jail, actually, I know I wasn't telling people that my father was in jail. They just, I had nothing to say about father's. Because I heard your mom said something about, she used to tell you all that he was at the zoo or something like that for a while. He was at the zoo for a while. He was at school for a while. So pretty soon it was like, he in jail. He in jail. What about you? Did you play sports or anything coming up? Yeah, I played. Was you any good though? See, that's the part right there. Okay, you know what? Uh-huh. Yeah, yeah, give it up. Give it up. I played baseball. You thought you was white? Yeah, that was little. Yeah. No, hey, hey, I wish I was white. Hey, that's what my son played. Hey, that's what the money at, man. It is what the money at. And Carl Crawford was over there too. He been over here. I gave him a tough time, but yeah. Then after that, I played basketball. That's one of the times where I wished my father was there to give me the courage to just go out there and, you know, not letting nobody talk me out of my game. It's easy to say that, but my dad was there and he ain't talking out of no game. You know what I'm saying? No, I'm talking about keep the other people from talking me out of the game. But what I'm telling you, he never came to the game. And he wasn't locked up. I'm talking about my dad was a not locked up. He didn't give me nothing out of here. You know what I'm saying? But from the understanding that we have and it could be from the separation. There you go. I think my father- He probably would have came. He might have came to the game. Well, maybe my daddy needed to be locked up. And then he probably would have came to the game. Yeah, because it do make you think different when you go through stuff versus people who never have had to go through that. It make you think deeper about things that you, it really make you understand the things that you really should be loving on. You understand what I'm saying? Yeah. Versus you just out here doing whatever, taking life for granted. See, he has to go through these situations through, he has to live them throughout. That's right. Just telling them about them or what have you. So at least from where he's at, he says that he, you know, he wish he could have been there. Definitely, definitely. Yeah, we on boss talk one on one. One on one. Yeah, we gonna talk.