 Question is from Parker Glesner 6.6. Despite you guys not loving machines, what is your favorite machine and why? I think we need to clear that up first. Yeah, we do. It's not that we don't like machines. Machines have a lot of value when you inject them into you a well-planned and programmed workout. It's just the reliance on machines or the That's all I do is machines. It tends to be the problem. Free weights. A couple different reasons why free weights are better overall. Free weights form to the body. Machines, your body has to form to the machine. Machines are typically designed for someone who's about average height, average limb length. Even though the seats adjust and the arm lengths adjust, you get a tall guy like Adam on there or somebody who's a little bit shorter like Doug and some machines just don't work well for them at all. And I used to encounter this with clients. I put them on a machine and it just didn't line up well with them. The other thing is that free weights tend to some of the best exercises you could ever do for your body are the free weight ones. I have yet to see a deadlift machine, a squat machine. There's very few that are I would even put in the same categories as squat. That being said, adding machines can be beneficial. Yeah, they have their value. But yeah, when you're in a fixed position and you have these machines that you're on a track, you can only get really good at going on that specific track. And so the carryover for me has always been not quite as substantial as me doing that same exercise, but now having a lot more variables attached. Because that's just more things to consider when I have to move in multiple directions. Right. And now adding frequency and volume and changing the angles. Machines can be awesome. If you see me working on a gym, because I usually work out in my garage and my garage is mainly free weights, if you see me in a gym, you'll see me using mostly machines. And a lot of that is because I just don't have access to machines, so I like the the novelty. My body responds well to throwing them in. Every once in a while, I want to have access to them. I use them quite a bit. As far as favorite machines are concerned, I mean, I have one machine that if I see it in the gym, I'm gonna use it. The pullover machine. Love the pullover. Not a lot of gyms have them. I was wondering what you were gonna say. Yeah, I haven't seen that in every gym. That's one machine that if I see it in a gym, I'm gonna 100. I love it. I love the feel of it. It's better than a dumbbell pullover even. I don't know if I have a single one machine. I love machines and being the bodybuilder, one of us. I mean, they were used a lot. My core training was still free weights and compound lifts, but I did a lot of the auxiliary work. I did a lot of these focusing on little details and small muscle groups. I think I have probably a favorite machine for... There's not a lot of gyms. Okay, so I'll go Sal's direction. A rare one to see. I get really excited. I love and I'm so pissed. In fact, the gym that I go to on a regular basis got rid of this machine and there's a rear delt fly machine that you lay face down. Oh, I know what you're talking about. Oh, that's a great one. I fucking love that machine. And why I'm partial to that because rear delts were a major focus of mine when I was competing, really just brought out my back and my shoulders. And there's not a lot of machines that are designed for the rear delts at all. And that was a phenomenal machine. Can you say that cable exercises are machines or is that out of the category? I would consider it a machine, like a free motion cable machine. Because it's all... The thing about that, though, is it gives you a lot of angles. If you were going to use that, then I would have to... That is because if you were going to use that as listing what we think is our favorite, I use a free motion. I'll tell you that the most. Yeah, I use a free motion. Cables the most. Cables because you can do so much. Like a little pulley row is a staple in a back workout. A lap pull down tends to be a staple in a workout. So cables, if you put cables in there... Oh, I love cables. And when I train clients, if I put a client on a machine and if we're considering cables, machines, 99% of time it was cables. 99% of time. That was the machine that I would put on. Another great... And I don't know if this falls in this category. I like the seated row... I mean, excuse me, the T-bar row, chest support machine. And the reason why I like that is because I deadlift so much. And sometimes my low back is a little fried from deadlifting, but I still want to hit my back and keep the frequency up. And so an exercise like that lends itself really well because I can still load it good. I can still train my back really hard, but then I'm not crushing my erector spinae at all. You know it's another good machine that you never see anymore. And I know, I think you and I have talked about this before, Adam. I think this was a favorite of yours too. The lateral machine where it was... There were metal arms and there were handles that you held with your hands. And it was like a circular cam and you came out and did laterals. That one... I don't know why I don't see those. I think because people don't know how to use it. But I love that for shoulders. Absolutely one of my favorites. I still... I love the reverse hyper. I consider that a machine, even though it's plate loaded. But to me, I get such a great feeling all the way up the back. My entire posterior chain, I can feel get involved with that exercise. So I'll supplement with that every now and then in between deadlifts, in between good mornings. I think we could all go down the rabbit hole here. Machines are great. I think the reason why we've made that point on this show, and that's why I wanted to clear it up before we went on this tangent that we've all started on different... There's a lot of favorite machines. And machines have definitely value. The problem is a lot of... The average person that is either listening to this show or that we would train, gravitates towards machines in fear of training free weights and compound lifts. And they don't have... They don't spend a lot of time in the gym. The average person is going to work out two to three days a week, 45 minutes to an hour. And when you don't have a whole lot of time, you want to do the most effective, best, most functional exercises. And that's free weights. Now, if you're in the gym five days a week, and you're doing every body part two, three times a week, and you're doing all these different exercises, well, now machines have a lot more value. Now you're looking for more angles. You're looking for different types of tension on the muscle. You're looking at hitting certain muscle groups and not exhausting another side, like the example I gave the T-bar rows. So you're trying to compliment your... So that's... I like machines to compliment all the big compound lifts. Where we hate machines, or I think we talk out on them a lot, is replacing them with those. Don't ever... And that's when we have to be careful when we explain stuff like this, where we talk about the value and how great this machine is or that machine is. It's not great if it replaces a good free weight exercise or a lot of the free weight or compound lifts that we talk about on the show. It's incredible. They're incredible to compliment all those movements. So no matter what your favorite machine is, even like a dumbbell pullover, well, dumbbell pullover is great and Sal loves that machine, but I guarantee it's not great in replace of a deadlift or a row. Now, those are staple movements. That's a great tool or a great thing to incorporate to compliment the big compound lift. Totally.