 بلبعينك أحنا جينة سيدة قبل مشينة والدعاة بلبعينك أحنا جينة سيدة قبل مشينة والدعاة يلدعنا ما تحتلنا بالأرض بجنة ضمة كربلا كما أشهد أن أشهد بلبعين كربلا كما أشهد أن أشهد بلبعين كربلا كما أشهد أن أشهد بلبعين كربلا كما أشهد أن أشهد بلبعين كربلا كما أشهد أن أشهد بلبعين كربلا سلام عليكم ورحمة الله وبركاته نحن مرحبا نحن مرحبا من سيارة الكربلاء يقوموا بعمل أربعين في الأمسفير يوم 40 يوم 40 where the believers are gathered in the Holy City of Karbala to commemorate the 40th day after the martyrdom of Imam al-Hussain be upon him as you can hear the sirens are behind behind me right now hopefully nothing has happened it's probably something minor but today I have with me a very special guest from the UK Dr. Shabir Tijani حبيب ملا how are you? are you good? how would you find the wab to Karbala? it was challenging I was sickness by doing it around so I put the same thing they say whenever there's a challenge there's acceptance hopefully there's a chance why walk this year normally a few days 5 or 6 days so generally what tends to happen I spent the day traveling come straight to Karbala and then I have programs but this year we have 10 days so I came early came to Najaf and decided to do it now a lot of people when they speak about walking they mention when you walk you remember the footsteps of Zaynab and remember the footsteps of the family is that true is it important to remember those steps? absolutely even before we set off one of the first things I said to myself and to my family was when you're walking every step you're taking just remember the footsteps of Zaynab and imagine the trials and the troubles that they went through even when I was sick and not feeling very well that's what kept me going is actually remembering and remembering their patience and their sacrifice I have to ask you because you're a reciter when you come to Karbala you find a lot of rhythms a lot of styles a lot of types of Noah's that you don't even hear anywhere across the world except for 40 now from a reciter's point of view how do you view this? I find it amazing isn't it weird? I think if it was the first time I was here it probably would be a bit weird but because I've become used to it in our own recitation we have a lot of different styles so for me it's very stimulating you listen to it and you join in and you see the way that different communities different people from around the world and commemorate the marks of them and the other way now the thing is a lot of people when they hear the Hussein going on they think it was a dance and yesterday I got a text message after the live show at night there was a monkey passing by after the show I got a text is that music in the background is that something is it appropriate to merge that kind of recitation with أهل البيت عليهم السلام و رزاق well the thing that I would say is that anything that brings you closer spiritually to the أهل البيت I find that it's acceptable and plus a lot of these things that are happening here have been passed through the مراجع and the أولماء and they have been vetted and they have been asked whether it's acceptable I'm sure especially in places like for example we have Iranian mohkibs that go through here and they have the loudest sound systems that I've ever heard and you can hear them from the other side of Karbala and in a place like Iran if this was not an acceptable thing then I'm sure they would have been picked up so for me it's anything that brings you closer to the Imam anything that stimulates your mind in your heart to get closer to the أهل البيت now what kind of things bring you closer to the Imam what kind of things during 40 bring you closer to the Imam of our time especially Imam Alayhissalam so I mean when you go to the Shahr Al-Imam Al-Sayn Al-Islam about Fadil Abbas Al-Islam you remember what happened to them you remember their sacrifice and you remember the fact that actually the Imam of your time is actually still crying and breathing for them and then you take Al-Diyat Al-Nahir which was written by the 12th of the month and read through it it brings you very close but the Imam is grieving more than any of us and our grief is only a drop in the ocean so when you remember his grief we think about our own grief and then remember his grief so speaking of the tear of the eye when you walk to Karbala as you mentioned earlier we always see people who are remembering Alayhissalam having the flag saying about Alayhissalam and also you see the tear in the eye and at the same time you see people smiling when they walk I've seen this a lot from old people to young people sometimes the old smile when they're walking sometimes the old cry and the same thing goes for the young now why cry and have you been have you been through that moment where you smile and then you cry and then I think what I would say is that the walk itself is different for different people the intention the mindset for the walk is different for different people for some people it's purely all grief and nothing else for other people it's a mold to self realisation you put yourself through the challenge through the hardship of the walk you're looking to find the Imam so the walk itself is quite challenging so people find their own ways of coping with that challenge and stress of the walk and sometimes they're with their companions and their friends at different points of the walk they may have different emotions so I feel that's completely acceptable I want to speak about you arriving in Karbala the first time walking and then we'll talk about the security and then we can talk about the rest so security is extremely tight as you'd expect and the service if you look at the local people who serve the Zawar it's just mind boggling that they give everything they have in order to provide food provide shelter for the Zahireen but when you have 30 million any security force in the world they're doing a great job but I don't think it's possible to manage all of these people with one security force so let's pray that everyone remains safe here and pray that there isn't any problems because this year it's more packed than I've ever seen it yeah you're telling me this year is more packed than last year and what's interesting about this year is that not only it's a regular but it's a Friday as well so it makes us hope even that slightest chance of hope within the heart it's a Friday but insha'Allah we pray it could be a very special year this year and what's also interesting it's a lot of people have arrived from outside cities some guy telling me that his uncle walked from Kuwait all the way from Kuwait to Iraq non-stop and he would stop for rest but never got a cab never took a car never took a ride that's almost 890 km so it's huge now speaking of your first experience when you walked did you see the massage places I saw yeah were they good places yeah I never stopped for one but I saw what they were doing to me it looked quite painful so I didn't actually stop now but every few steps every few poles you would see people massaging feet massaging backs الحمدلله they really take care of the zawar here الحمدلله now if you want to talk about it during regular seasons there's a big difference absolutely yeah but there's one difference that really brings the one closer to and that's the emotion that's found in the air although across the year you do get emotional with the Imam it depends on the occasion you're there but if you can compare a couple of things about 40 to the rest of the year well I've come in different times I've come in Shaaban so for me then it was a completely different atmosphere everybody was having a good time I've come in first Ashra for the first 10 days it's not as packed but again there's a lot of sorrow and grief in the air and then Arabain is just something completely different Arabain is just people just so many because of the Ahl al Bayt millions and millions and millions of people and you just bounce energy from each other and obviously the shrine is just a magnet which pulls you all in it's just amazing to see so it's a completely different feeling to different times of the year but Arabain for sure is probably the most intense time I'd say yeah why it's just the pure number of people number one, number two like you said there's a different feel in the air you just feel nothing but grief and sorrow and everyone else is in the same mood you see the shrines everyone is flocking towards the shrines it's completely different to anything else I've ever experienced now as a doctor do you have fear when you eat from a more kid or do you have fear that if you're sick where are you going to go I was sick this year you bring meds with you or do you just rely on the meds here well I didn't but luckily my wife did actually a saving grace but yeah what you have to do is just leave everything in the hands of the Imam there's nothing you can do you have to stop and eat the chances of problems with the food is the same with both places so you just pray that everything's okay and just continue tell us some medical tips if I knew that I would have used it myself but I guess the main thing is to stay away from meat so that's the first thing I do what kind of meat and in general the other thing I try and do that's something difficult for the Arabs stay away from dairy milk because sometimes not pasteurized properly those are the two main things the two main things that are served in the Mokib is meat and dairy so the only thing I usually have is tea and then shorba so that's kind of a staple that's the only thing I eat that's it that's probably why you're sick yeah probably but الحمد لله رب العالمين the other idea that I want to talk about is the atmosphere that we're seeing in the screen right now when someone from abroad you know you can't live here due to occupation but for someone living in abroad and he's not able to come and view what you're seeing right now what would be his feelings well what I would say is number one you'd be amazed at the intensity in the air you can't feel that from the TV screen it's just nothing but pure raw emotion everybody's chanting and crying and reciting and you can't feel that from a TV screen and also it's kind of when you're in Karbala just the feeling the air that emotion that you feel in the air you can't get from the TV screen what I would say to them is that just look at how many millions of people come every year if it was something that they could get from a TV screen they wouldn't be coming oh yeah oh yeah oh yeah that was a very good point you made but insha'Allah we'll continue this but after this short break we'll be back very shortly after this short break respective viewers welcome back I hope you enjoyed that short report live exclusively live from the holy shrines of Karbala during the great 40 program you know everyone here is gathered under the banner of لباك يا حسين لباك يا مولا what's the title of the album released on the first of Muharram by Shabir T. Jani welcome back very good to have you now I know you've prepared some Noah's for us that relate to our minds so we're looking forward for that but before we get into I want you to comment for the people that couldn't make it this year you know so they can feel the spirituality of being here but yet at the comfort of their home so it would be good if we could have some inserts as well as doctors comments just looking down at the screen I'm sure we'll have some views of the shrine itself from inside the shrine but as soon as you go in well even before you get in you just see a flood of people when you try to get through the gates to get into the shrine sometimes you can't even do that but as you can see in the pictures there's mokibs that are passing through you see that they're actually separated with barriers so as they're walking through you see those strings on either side of them and then there's a platform where the reciter is standing and each mokib has their own flavor their own way of recitation each language, each culture has a different way of doing the grieving and from each and every single one and physically you feel filled with grief and sorrow so for those of you who haven't been able to make it may Allah give you the visitation and may you especially get to visit during the time of because these sort of mokibs you don't get at any other time of the year you only get it for arabain so this year normally what happens is that you get the mokibs on arabain night which is actually tonight but the mokibs this year started from last night and the reason for that I think is that there's a lot more mokibs to go through the hara so that's why they've had to spread them out a bit more so my recitation was last night with a Tanzanian mokib but there's mokibs that have gone from this morning from earliest like 6-5am through the day they'll be going through the night until tomorrow morning so it just goes to show you what sort of emotion there must be in the shrine and to be honest with you because of these mokibs passing through they can't get inside the shrine it's very difficult especially tonight if you don't get into the shrine earlier before maghrib but before you you won't get in unless you talk about the mokibs where you can get through but otherwise you won't be able to get into and also the mokibs that are going through this year they've estimated because last year they were on 730 mokib so sorry 7000 800 and something and from them you got the mokibs that come in and the mokibs that serve and also it's it's amazing it's amazing how we can think about it you can't imagine can you you can't imagine can you may your mom protect them all and keep them all all safe because obviously with the world the way it is at the moment and the persecutions of the loves of the Ahlul Bait you know this is insha'Allah we pray for the safety insha'Allah insha'Allah I mean hopefully everyone is safe from the world because honestly when you love your mom unfortunately people have looked at it as a way of if I love this person I'm going to be in affliction you know there's harm going to reach me but at the same time you're loving an individual who sacrifice everything he has for you and that's what we need to think about now if you can bless us with a few verses from which poem you're returning it's called On Our Way it's regarding the walk so this was actually written specifically for the walk so insha'Allah because this show is more about the walk to Karbala I hope the listeners at home pay attention and get a feel of what it's like insha'Allah اللهم صلى الله عليه وسلم صلى الله عليه وسلم صلى الله عليه وسلم صلى الله عليه وسلم pinch لكن الله سبحانه وتعالى will create a nation and we are that nation a nation to cry for him so from that day onwards ببي فاعت متزهر صلى الله عليه وسلم had been praying for us and still prayed for us until this day for us so far قيمة هد pray that is the reason we were made created to cry for hosay on that day we come to his aid will not stop in service to his alims this is our call to everyone raise up your hands and say as one لبك يا حسين كربلا يا حسين we want to see your dome soon step after step my life tomorrow we're happy to face any trials the aching limbs the burning joints we'll be there in a little while we're yearning this is our call to everyone raise up your hands and say as one لبك يا حسين كربلا يا حسين we want to see your dome soon we start to shake right to the bone speechless we just look on in awe we can control the tears that flow standing in bay نول هدمان between our bus and you hosay this is our call to everyone raise up your hands and say as one لبك يا حسين اللهم صلي على محمد وقال محمد look for recitation you know when to hear the actual feelings of what the za'ar goes through with the ones who are home who haven't seen kربلا and then they reach kربلا it's very emotional at the same time thank you very much for joining us tonight it takes dedication to do what you do and insha'Allah may Allah give you the world to continue serving Ahl al Bayt in the way you do thank you very much once again thank you very much for tuning in hopefully insha'Allah we can learn from individuals like Shabir from individuals around the world to serve Ahl al Bayt and to always never forget the Imam of our time and I would ask thank you very much والسلام عليكم بربعينك أحنا جين السيد تقبل مشهر والدعان بربعينك أحنا جين السيد تقبل مشهر والدعان يجب عننا فاتح لنا في الأرض وجنة ضم سربلا