 This is covering the spread part of the Fandall podcast network Interesting little game coming up tonight to wrap up week number four in the NFL It is a Seahawks at the Giants and a lot of movement in the market throughout the week Which we're gonna break down today to get you ready for this game Ryan Williams stopping on by for this show talk about his insights on this game We'll break down some player props as well to get you ready for Monday night This is covering the spread right here on the Fandall podcast network and on Fandall research My name is Jim Sonnis. I am a managing editor of digital media for a Fandall research joined here as I am every Monday by Ryan Williams checking out on Twitter at Ryan Alexander underscore w Ryan Tough week for your bears obviously, but we were talking before the show like the consolation is you now control the first two picks and NFL draft because the bears lost but so did the Panthers so I Think that it's not it's not the best case scenario because best case scenario is the bears play really well But Justin Fields looked good. He had a good game and played pretty well You saw the guys you want to be the pieces for the future isn't DJ more Cole come out playing well, too So like I know that sucks. I don't know. That's not fun. But like I think there's at least some consolation there, right? Yeah Yes and no The consolation is you know, I guess if you if you put in yourself in that position, right? I think that you know for me I I was a bigger CJ strong guide over Bryce young I think they might have taken Bryce young at the number one pick now Obviously, we're only four weeks in can't see but like Caleb Williams looks so legit So I mean we'll be able to set yourselves up with two chances to go and get a guy like that I think that that makes you feel good The thing about it is is that we have not been able to develop any type of quarterback In my lifetime and you know going further back At that position so it makes you nervous to think okay if Caleb Williams looks to see wait I'm gonna go to Chicago and they just did that with Justin. No, I'm gonna stay in college and More money and wait it out So, you know, we'll see. I think that you definitely have to Make some heads roll Here in the next, you know I dare I say weeks days Because you have a short week against Washington and like an on five start just means somebody's got to go so Yeah Yeah, and I think the the benefit is they have not developed a quarterback But I feel like Caleb Williams in that case might be kind of a recruiting chip for a very good offensive coordinator Where you're like, okay, you know, here's your shot You can you can mold this guy to what you want Come join us and I think that that can kind of work both ways where it's like, okay I mean this is a terrible example But like that's why urban Meyer came out of retirement was to coach Trevor Lawrence and like that didn't work out But like there is that angle of it. So hopefully Caleb Williams can help draw someone in for the Bears You deserve it after all these years. Um, you know, try to find someone it's to leave that franchise But it was good to see fields, you know, some solid plays. Yeah It was it was good to see the offense look like an offense I think yeah gets he saved himself another week or two With how he was designing and calling plays there, um, you know, some questionable things happened in the fourth quarter But I think, you know, you have a lead at home Running the football and trying to you know, not give the Broncos the ball back when your defense couldn't stop anybody Um, what was the right move? It just uh, you know, it just was not enough to be able to bring home a w So tough loss at home But again, you know, we just maybe play for 2024 and let that be the case Again, that's the nice thing to have in your back pocket is to be able to root for that and root against panthers too Uh, see how things play out there We're gonna spend things forward and talk about Monday night here Just so I can get you ready for the seahawks and the giants We'll talk about the movement in this market We've seen throughout this week talk about some player props and much more to get you ready for this game But first a reminder to make sure you're subscribed to covering the spread wherever you get your podcast You can find us an apple podcast spotify Wherever you get your podcast, you can find us if you like what you hear leave us a five star rating on apple podcast or spotify We appreciate those of you who have done so already and of course all these Covering the spread shows do also go up on fan duel tv plus You can get on amazon flyer apple tv or roku Can also watch fan duel tv plus by going to fan duel dot com slash watch and logging in with a fan duel account Watch up and adam's live or watching covering the spread the heat check fantasy podcast all in the same place as well Also quick announcement. 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Do you think that movement in seahawks favor is valid? Yeah, I think it's I think it's valid. Um, even with them going on the road here to the meadowlands geno's return To the meadowlands, uh, we might add Um from his time at the jet so always a fun one to talk about jim. I'm surprised that i'm bringing that up to For the first time. You're right usually always on top of that. Um, but you know without say quen barkley Being here in just the way the giants have been playing at it You know it makes sense that when you're looking at you know trends and things of that nature like daniel jones has really struggled In games that are not played on sundays. I believe he's oh and 12 in his career when you factor in Thursdays saturdays sundays and or i'm sorry sunday nights and mondays Um in in games that are essentially in prime time straight up. So, you know that all being said Yeah, it makes it seem like that seattle Um should be favored here. They are getting jamal adam's back on defense. It looks like as he practiced all week And you know, I think they just are are the better team as it stands right now But this is a home game for the giants It does feel like you know that plus one and a half we could get some tricky things if daniel Jones is able to lean on his legs and probably get some of these guys involved darren waller being one of them The the line is not one that i'm willing to You know kind of put my hat on at this moment in time right now If you had to tell me to pick either side, I would probably lean the money line Um just in case uh, you know some kind of weird stuff happens like we just saw on sunday night With the jets and the chiefs But I do think the 40 47 and a half uh on the over total is a little bit interesting, you know Even without seguin barkley, we got some playmakers on the seattle side of the ball We got a giants defense that gives up, you know Some points in the seattle defense that has given up some points as well earlier to start this season So if we can get you know a little bit more out of daniel jones without seguin being there just with them Having to do a lot then I feel like we could get an ugly match up here that ends up leading itself to points Yeah, so 47 and a half is the total right now over is minus 105. I've got this total at 45.5 And I think that I get why that's there. I also you know It is one of those games that has that feel of like it could get gross and be high scoring as a result of that So I think that does make a lot of sense. I cannot believe I overlooked the gino revenge game against the giants Not only is it the revenge game against the stadium revenge game against the giants. I dropped the ball there I'm so happy and excited about this game. Now. Thank you for reminding me ryan of how sacred this game will be I I had seattle favorite by two and a half in this game And It's partly like the giants do get a downgrade for seguin That does matter both in terms of their passing efficiency and their rushing efficiency but more so I think just like I think seattle's offense is pretty good and I'm pretty skeptical of the giants offense now the counterpoint there would be that neither defense They think the the seahawks defense is not great by any means either but Right The seahawks look good for most of last year. I know they tailed off down the stretch But they played well this year with I know that title lock and a dk neck half have played every game But they've been in and out of a lot of those games like they miss stretches of different games The seattle offense has still been good had them projected to rank 11th entering this week after accounting for injuries on Each team so that's not a bad offense. Whereas the giants were after accounting for the sake one injury See here. They were 20th. So Defense definitely does favor seattle. I I think to me I still I feel good about them when I got it gotten with seattle. I know that for sure I think if I were betting it now, I would still feel okay with the seattle money line at minus 126 But I think that the market has moved enough where I'm probably out there if I had not gotten it previously But it's an interesting game for sure. Now. Let's talk here about some player props second string game with no say qualm barkley and Matt brita played a lot of snaps in week number four Not a lot beyond that though. So any player props you're eyeing here for a giants and seahawks on the giant side of things Yeah, the giant side of tank The giant side of things the giant side of things tongue twister makes it really tough To you know have any, you know credence or mare I mean the backfield is just absolutely, you know a charge and like the names that i'm seeing for the backfield for like The or the Detroit for the giants is like I didn't even know these like very bright will is still out there You know, it up Matt brita It just these are not names that you you want to bet on and even from the blood receiver court, you know I would love Jayland highlight Jayland hi it to be able to get going a little bit more this guy's just got big play potential low for him But they haven't you know, he's not been able to uh You serve derrius slayton as of yet is that he field target? I guess derrius slayton is a little bit interesting It is surprising to me that he has the favor The most favorite odds of any wide receiver to score touchdown I do like isiah Hodgins a little bit in this match up Seattle has been one to kind of give up big plays. I think jamal adams being back Maybe does hinder darren waller's outlook a little bit So I think there has to be somebody especially if i'm expecting this game to get to 48 points if i'm expecting The running backs to not be able to get going. I gotta lean on somebody and so asiah Hodgins He's four to one to score touchdown his receiving props You get him at 23 and a half receiving yards like And he's going to be out there on the field a lot So so I do like that on the giant side another thing that i'm looking at here Which kind of surprised me a little bit when you're just looking at okay There's no sick on barkley like what can we maybe predict? Uh daniel jones is rushing outlook to be so rushing yards for him is that 35 and a half I absolutely love that um on prime time games. He's actually you know had some decent Rushing totals in his career. He's actually only scored one touchdown Not played on a sundae. Um through the ground, which I found very interesting Um, so when you're looking at his anytime touchdown prop I still might be able to dabble on that just a little bit But he is you know only you're only getting a one to one there plus 100 So I think the books have got that appropriately Yeah, the 35 and a half is interesting because if you're missing a good offensive piece You might be more inclined to lean into The quarterback rush game I think most teams want to avoid that when they can but I don't think the giants can when there's no Safe one barkley. So we've seen jones be very adept at that He has just the one touchdown would have the second that was the the game where he tripped The turf monster game that was in prime time. So that would have been touchdown number two But couldn't quite get there. I agree with you that the the anytime touchdown number is Sportsbooks know what they're doing. Um that on that number 35 and a half I think if you want to get in a daniel jones, that's probably where I'd want to go And I think the hajans one too. The 23 and a half is not bad for him Especially if we kind of assume a trike wolan looks like he's fully healthy again And he'd be more likely to get slain than hajans. So I think that is also pretty interesting We've seen darin waller's numbers come down a lot. I can't Buy in yet at 49 and a half. Um, but like maybe if they keep coming down in future weeks I can get in on a waller and get some props there Let's talk about the seattle side of things where they're pretty healthy They've got dk mech half good to go for this game title lock. It's good to go The running backs are you know working in tandem kind of the way they thought so What are you seeing on the seattle side of things for tonight? Yeah, let's start on the running back side of things and just talk about ken of walker here Who's been the guy that's kind of you know separated himself in this backfield? From from zack charbonate the rookie and his his number comes in at 64 and a half on Russian yards. Absolutely love this number. They've given it up to the number one back The giants defense that is to number one running backs in the backfields every game this season so far So you enter in ken of walker here if seattle is able to get that lead On the road and lean on i mean we know what they want to do. They want to run the ball Whenever they can I do like the receiver props, you know across the board I mean dk mech f going against a man coverage defense A lot's going to be talked about that. He comes in at 65 and a half But even tylo lockett who comes in at 52 and a half He's kind of the forgotten child and we know that tylo lockett has these boom Games that just kind of exists out there in the ether when nobody's kind of thinking about him And so I love getting tylo lockett at 52 and a half I do think there's even some merit at jackson smith and jigba I was surprised to see his line come in at close to 30 29 and a half for him I think this is kind of like one of those games where you kind of maybe see him get going a little bit Just to give the rookie more reps in a favorable matchup So he's a guy I definitely want to keep my eye on but I think right now it starts for me at tylo lockett His over On receptions is four and a half. I'd be willing to take that be willing to take his line And then i'm definitely looking at getting some action on ken of walker even a tylo locket I think plus 160 anytime touchdown is nice. He's got six red zone targets on the year Which I believe leads the team if i'm not mistaken. So you love seeing that From from a guy like that and we do have some tight ends on the injury report No, if ant is banged up Well disley's banged up and so instead of go to go into cody parkinson. Let's uh, let's go to uh, tylo lockett here and and Hope that helped that reach the evidence for us You get cody parkinson on the on the stream just so like we can see his hair But then don't throw it to him, you know, get him get him on the fields We can see the hair but then throw elsewhere 52 and a half for locket is really good I'm kind of surprised by that number and also the four and a half you mentioned for locket over four and a half receptions Is only minus 102 So I think both those are super intriguing looking at the target numbers so far this year Four tylo locket he left that week one game For a pretty long amount of time But that since then 10 targets week two seven targets week number three We know he's a very efficient player catches everything that goes his way effectively He's had two one and two deep targets in that time and locket as you said does lead in red zone targets He has six which is 38 of the teams red zone targets so far this year So I think the locket in general is probably under priced across the board as far as the markets go So I think if we're of the of the ones we talked about so far Ryan the locket markets are the one that definitely grabbed my attention most Yeah, I I absolutely love locket, especially if he's you know, I just from you know The chatter and things that I'm hearing like just people are on mech out for today And it's not wrong Jim like that's not what I you know take but when we're talking about you know odds and when we're talking about You know, uh being able to to reap when the field's going one way I think you know looking at locket definitely has some uh some favorable Some some he's going to pay off in a favorable way if he hits Especially when the gap between him and mech half is as large as it is like mech half is awesome But like the gap is a little bit larger than you think it might be or maybe deserves to be there Any other props you like uh for tonight's game ryan? Yeah, uh, I think those are those are really the the main ones that that i'm thinking about I do think it's interesting, you know, like no affair the tight end position I just wanted to talk about because yeah kopey parkinson is that you know Plus 550 for any time touchdown like if for some reason I don't I I didn't know to the extent of the injuries I just knew they were both on the injury report, but like it will disley ends up playing He's plus 850 to score a touchdown like I think that's just having a Little skin on that because the odds are just you know He's sitting out there with eric gray and laurence kager You know what i'm saying and like we know that they're going to you know be be somewhat involved Because they they've earned some 12 personnel from time to time. So I do think that that's interesting there. Um Other than that. Yeah, there's nobody else in the in the rushing market that I'm looking for Um, I do think so we and we saw this last night with with patching my home So we are getting road quarterbacks throwing interceptions Um at you know a kind of crazy crazy right here to kind of start the season and so gino smith I believe is plus money to throw an interception, of course, you know We want to talk about his return in a positive way because But uh plus 116 to kind of throw an interception here against the defense that you know plays man But can't be aggressive at times with martin gell and other side like I do think there's some interesting merit to take that I mean my home's just through one two should add three last night. So, uh, you know gino plus money I think we can be willing to take a shot on that I feel a little betrayed ryan you would do this, but you're right. I think plus 116 like, you know My wallet may not be betrayed, but you know, that's okay. Uh plus 116 for gino to throw a pick is not bad at all Other one that caught my attention when you're talking about um disley plus a 50 The good thing with that is if he's inactive you get that back you get your shake back So that's one thing to remember With will disley but also jake bobo is plus a 50. I find that's somewhat interesting um bobo snaps Across the first three games 24 percent 25 percent 41 percent did score this past week I'm not taking that but just I find it interesting that uh jake bobo is out there He and disley both kind of interesting uh based on injuries for tonight's game That is all that we have here for today on covering the spread breaking down the seahawks and the giant spots We are back here once again tomorrow morning ryan will be with us to take a look at the futures market We'll have to my stock bangles again. I don't know. It's been a rough go I had the bangles money line yesterday, which did not go great Uh, we'll talk about futures market and then i'll give my first look into week number five as well All right here on the same podcast seeds So go search for recovery in the spread wherever you get your podcast hit subscribe And if you like what you hear leave us a five star rating as well Don't forget check us out over on vandal tv plus uh ryan You can find him on twitter at ryan alexander underscore w It was a pleasure having you on here once again for today. Enjoy monday night football. We'll talk to you once again tomorrow Absolutely likewise jim see you tomorrow All right, and i am on twitter at jim sonnis j i m s a n n e s You can also follow fandal research at fandal research want to thank you all for tuning in for today Good luck to you with your bets for tonight. We'll talk to you once again tomorrow This has been covering the spread right here on the fan duel podcast network