 What kind of karate is in Cobra Kai part 3? Just when you thought we couldn't rehash the topic enough We find out new ways to geek out about it Now I do want to say two things before we start the first being that this video is the third in the series And I'm not going to rehash the debate in my previous two videos in which we sit out to determine What style of martial arts do the Cobra Kai Miyagi do dojo's practice? I delivered my analysis in the first one and we got tremendous feedback from viewers and in the second video I returned to that analysis while taking suggestions in the consideration You may want to go check out those two episodes first before going forward and I've listed them below in the description The other thing I would like to mention is that this video might contain some minor spoilers If you have not seen Cobra Kai on YouTube premium and if you haven't go do that right now and then come back There are two seasons currently available both are fantastic and worthy follow-ups of the original films If you'd like the karate kid and the show is right up your alley and that's a alley with an EY In the first two videos I had determined that Cobra Kai was depicted as some version of Tonksudo and that Miyagi do karate was based on the Okinawan art of Gojiru I'm not going to list all the supporting clues again But I will say that both of these seem to have been confirmed in the recent interview William Zabka who plays Johnny Lawrence was asked what style of martial arts were in the film and he said that he was Trained by Pat Johnson who was also the referee in the film in the style of Tonksudo And that Ralph Macho was trained in the Okinawan art of soft style defensive style I think he was intended to say hard soft style, which is the literal translation of Gojiru And if that isn't enough then we see a shot in Cobra Kai season 2 in which Daniel is hanging up a picture on the walls of Miyagi Do and he hangs up a picture of Chojin Miyagi who is the founder of Gojiru That's pretty definitive if you ask me now I got a lot of great suggestions and input from many of you and you provided awesome observations Now the truth of the matter is while the in-world arts might have been Tonksudo and Gojiru We do have to take into account that this is a film and creative liberties are usually taken There are likely many influences in the stunts and choreography of the films and even more so in the Cobra Kai show as we can see a Dynamic mix of arts now in the previous video I asked viewers for help with two questions the first was helping identify the photographs in the Cobra Kai dojo who they were of and Second what type of kata Terry Silver was practicing in Karate Kid part 3? Now at the time I was hoping it would confirm the Korean art of Tonksudo In reality the truth was much simpler, but still pretty close The Karate Kid filmed the Cobra Kai dojo scenes at a real school at the time Jun Chong's Taekwondo in North Hollywood Now this was a functioning dojang So it's very likely that the studio left much of the set decoration in place and in fact within an hour of the last Video posting viewers identified the first set of photographs by the door as they are of Jun Chong himself There is no question that these are the same photos Now the picture above the mirror wasn't as clear I got many great suggestions But I was unable to find any online photo that seemed to match and honestly it's pretty blurry So unless somebody involved in that dojo or the making of the film is watching We're just gonna have to keep speculating while Jun Chong's Taekwondo was still running today It is no longer in that same location and in fact seems to have grown in size And so a big congratulations to them for keeping a successful school running for so long Now as for the kata that Terry Silver was performing the general consensus seems to be that it wasn't an official kata But rather an impromptu or improvised workout, which makes pretty sense So unless anyone can pinpoint anything specific we're just pretty much gonna go with that So with all that being said I thought it might be fun to take a look at some of the other characters and cast members and touch upon some of the arts that they might know Either previous to the films or something they picked up afterward Ironically the two actors that didn't have any martial arts experience at all are Ralph Machio and Pat Merida With Merida's character supposedly being the best martial artist in the entire series thus far Nevertheless, Ralph Machio stands as a figurehead. He was relatable and inspired thousands of kids including myself to join the martial arts The Pat Merida stunt work was performed by she thought are you a master Fumio de Mura Who was also said to be a partial inspiration for the character But fun fact though Pat Merida left his own legacy in the series as he personally designed the bonsai tree logo that stands to represent Miyagi Okrate Fumio de Mura began training in the martial arts at the age of nine and holds a ninth Don rank in Shitoru He has written many books including this one on the side I picked up several years ago and he's appeared in several films including the documentary on himself from 2015 entitled The Real Miyagi to this day He is still a highly respected figure in the martial arts world and I've included a list of some of his works below in the description Now we also previously mentioned Pat Johnson as the referee in the film And he was also the lead choreographer of not just a karate kid But multiple films including Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles and Mortal Kombat Mr. Johnson is a ninth Don in Tongsudo and he has an extensive history of martial arts including training under Chuck Norris He is heavily respected in the art and he is currently serving as the head of the National Tongsudo Congress Fun fact one of Mr. Johnson students was actor Steve McQueen father of actor Chad McQueen Who we all know as Dutch in the karate kid now I feel safe in assuming that I'm not the only one who noticed they stand out participant in the All Valley karate championship tournament Even as a child I could tell that Daryl Vidal was a real-life martial artist His moves were just too fast and too crisp to not be he could be seen in the first film plowing through his Way through Cobra Kai students until falling to Johnny in the semifinals although truth be told I believe he would have really won that match in real life Mr. Vidal is an accomplished martial artist and he holds a 10th Don in Kempo and runs Vidal Kempo in California He also has experience training in and teaching Wing Chung and Filipino stick fighting He leaves his legacy in the karate kid not only as a tournament participant But also contributed to the stunt work in choreography and that's him performing the crane kick on the beach dump Still an incredible artist to this day. You can find clips of him fighting on YouTube I'll be blunt this guy's a badass and if you're watching Mr. Vidal We all know who really that trophy belongs to now as we go through the cast members of both movies and the show There are several other actors who have martial arts experience on and off set the first William Zabka Johnny Lawrence himself while he didn't have any prior karate experience before the film He was bitten by the bug and he continued training in Tongsudo afterward and honestly it shows in the Cobra Kai show you can see he still has great form and flexibility Then we have Martin Cove who plays the villainous Sensei John Crease one of my favorite bad guys of the 80s He brings a serious weight and respect to the role and while we see him get his at the hands of Miyagi twice It is a shame He didn't have more combat roles in the films as Mr. Cove himself has personal experience in Kendo Okinawante and Tiger Kempo looking past John Crease We will find Terry Silver close behind him played brilliantly by Thomas E and Griffith Terry Silver is the one behind the maniacal revenge plot of the third film Mr. Griffith holds a black belt in Kempo karate and studied taekwondo since childhood and that isn't surprising as his techniques in the film are Sharp and in my personal opinion. He's the one character that seemed like a possible challenge to Miyagi Almost and speaking of villains who can forget Mike Barnes the crazy bully from the third movie played awesomely by Sean Canaan Mike Barnes Kind of is a little bit of a hard character to pin in terms of the in-world art because we're not really given a lot of his backstory Or really any of his backstory He was a hired hand. He wasn't the Cobra Kai student that came up through the ranks So the movie doesn't really give us any hints as to what art Mike Barnes might have learned But in real life actor Sean Canaan studied boxing before switching over to kickboxing and shodokan karate Now when he started doing the film He obviously worked with the Sun coordinators Pat Johnson and Shito Ryu master Fumio Demura So after the film he continued training in both arts and also kind of an interesting fact is he beat out two other martial arts for The role of Mike Barnes. It's gotta be the intensity. He brings a serious Intensity to this role like to the point of being crazy and apparently during auditions when they brought him in to do lines with Rothmacho He bullied Rothmacho in the audition and put him in the corner and the cast and the directors realized Yeah, hey, this is the guy because he's getting the effect that we need and also a fun fact He got seriously injured during the making of this film in the scene where they all fighting Miyagi in a dojo He comes lying through the front doors They performed at stunt many times He did himself and he landed upwards of like 20 times on the floor doing the stunt But what nobody realized was on one of those landings He actually ruptured something he tore a muscle line or something in his body and he was bleeding internally and didn't know it So he had to have emergency surgery and he almost died from it And they were going to continue the film without him with a stunt double and he insisted. No, let me do it Let me do it. He worked hard. He trained he got back into it because he was so intense in this role He fought so hard He was a karate kid fan from watching the first two movies that he dedicated himself to it So he worked his way up and he became an awesome villain And even his little tirade at the end of the film when he's going Daniel to get up That was all ad-lib that wasn't scripted. So what an awesome performance by this guy Mike Barnes is awesome Ron Thomas Ron Thomas plays Bobby Brown the only cobra in the first film that showed Daniel any sympathy He knew Daniel didn't quite deserve the beatings that Johnny gave him and you can see it on his face multiple times And he even confronts Johnny about it. Now in real life. Mr. Thomas is a great motivational speaker Author and an accomplished martial artist as listed on his website his 30 year history of credits include two-time world champion five-time international self-defense champion six-degree black belt United States Jiu-Jitsu team trainer founder and Sensei of the world-class training centers in Los Angeles national rank examiner for the United States Jiu-Jitsu Association and Personal coach for multiple national and world champions He was one of the few actors going into the film with real martial arts experience And he was supposedly allowed to choreograph his own fights now. We move on to the young cast of cover Kai So this experience here is limited, but it's kind of worth looking into first We have show a little merry duena who plays Miguel and for all intents purposes is the new karate kid His experience coming to the show was limited saying that he did study about a year of karate as a child But working in Cobra Kai has renewed his interest in the martial arts And he's shown a lot of early skill and hopefully he'll follow the path of William Zabka and continue training after his term in the show Next we have Miguel's rival Robbie played by Tanner Buchanan His story is very similar having studied Taekwondo at a young age roughly between ages 10 and 12 and He was only a few belts away from black belt before quitting due to a heavy schedule He is one of the standout characters in my opinion on the show because he's demonstrating a lot of solid techniques And it really wasn't surprising to find out that he had prior combat experience Even Jacob Bertrand lip transformed into Hawk comes to the table with some experience He had prior training in karate and grappling which seems to come natural to him in the show He's just one of these great young cast members and actors that have so much martial arts potential that they really hope they continue On this path and I'm really anxious to see where they go in the future with it What kind of skill they can develop as we get into the all-valley tournament of season one We have to acknowledge Taylor and chat who plays Xander stone Now, I don't think anyone here is surprised to hear that he has real-life training And he holds a black belt in Taekwondo and has some significant capoeira experience both of them. He showcases in the show Now speaking of capoeira. I wasn't quite able to identify this actor I failed the IMDb, but there's no way he was able to take on the little Bert without having significant experience mm-hmm and Keeping in tradition with the head referee We have hero Kota who plays the new ref of the tournament and just like mr. Johnson leads the stunt working choreography on the show Now hero Kota is the son of Sokei Hiroyuki Kota Founder of us Yoshukai karate, which traces its roots back to Japanese art of Chitoru Okay, so who is the real karate kid? This is a debate that has had the internet in a tizzy for the past couple of years. Is it Daniel? Is it Johnny? No, actually it's screenwriter Robert Mark Kamen Mr. Kamen conceptualized and wrote the script for the karate kid and it said that he loosely based off his own experiences He had a martial arts background himself and when he was writing the film He based the character of John Crease collectively on two instructors He met early in his training a tough former Marine who had become a karate instructor and another sensei who encouraged dirty fighting Disappointed with the attitudes mr. Kamen turned to the Okinawan art of Gojiru and based Mr Miyagi office real life sensei They took a Yagi who also happened to be a direct student of Gojiru founder Chojin Miyagi So I think that settles that so I'm asking you guys for a little bit of homework There was one system I was trying to identify and wasn't having much luck The first opponent that Daniel faces in the tournament has this red school or art logo on his back And you can spot the same emblem on others in the background throughout the tournament So I'm really unfamiliar with his fighting stance as well And I was kind of curious if any of you out there knew what the symbol was whether it was an art or school Or had any idea what this guy might practice, you know, we're not presented with a lot of information So I'm kind of curious to know what you guys think so that does it for this episode Is there anyone I missed I would absolutely love to hear any observations you have on the film perhaps other tournament participants Thank you so much for watching Please subscribe and please be sure to click on the bell icon below and I have listed in the description below links to books by both Fumio de Murra and Ron Thomas and I encourage you to check them both out Also, please be sure to support us on patreon, you know the more supporters we get I want to thank those who have supported this so far you guys have been amazing and awesome We can only do this because of you guys so the more we all get involved the more we can do Thank you so much everyone