 This is Tony Jones and I'm thrilled to be back on 30 seconds or less. I am an Enneagram 8 and I just want to say about that that the lost childhood message of an 8 is I will not be betrayed and I will tell you that the hardest thing for me as an 8 to get my head around is betrayal or lack of loyalty from a friend or family member something like that that is without question the biggest stumbling block for me is a perceived betrayal from somebody else in my direction so if you know or love somebody who's an 8 know that loyalty is their highest value and if you make a choice that doesn't seem loyal they're going to struggle to understand that choice.