 Welcome to Toffy TV, we are joined by the boys from the originals, the Everton fan group trying to bring some atmosphere to Gooderson Park and as we witnessed in the Merseyside Derby, the place absolutely rocked and it's this because of these two lads right here, these two lads help bring the atmosphere back to Gooderson Park, how did you just get going, how did you just get started, why did you feel like you had to get this group together? Why did you try and bring an atmosphere to Gooderson? There's about a bunch of us, about five or ten of us, and we all have season tickets in the Gladysseath, like a GT4, GT5, and we're just sitting there for a couple of years thinking, looking now, just trying to get some going, looking now and going no one's joining in with us, so yeah it's just all kicked off from there really, we just thought I'll go to away games and all that together and we just thought we've got to do something about it, so we've just brought. So you see like all formers and all that, your opinions, it's started, you're from the Atalanta game, and no one was in that, no one was in that ground, and you're just seeing their section bouncing, and you're just looking at them, everyone's recording them and you're just thinking why can't we, just make a better noise, why can't we, you just be like them, so we've just all kicked off from there really, and just got together. Can I ask you, have you noticed a massive difference between going away with everything and seeing what it's like, and then coming to Godderson and then thinking, and going when we go away, like everyone's singing and standing up and that, but why are you remembering our home, why isn't it silent, is that something you've noticed? When I went away to Leicester earlier on this year, and it was non-stop throughout the game, it was literally singing non-stop, non-stop, and then you come to Godderson, and you look at if you get three songs again, you know what I mean, you look at if you get three songs again, but going away, we have like what, 2,000 away at Leicester, 3,000, even if we had that core group, something similar or even less than that in Godderson, that would be like that every week. When they're away, they're all bunch together, so you've got all the main coaches and that, they're all together, whereas they're all split up, Andy and the Gladys Seat, part somewhere in the park, and it's hard, isn't it? It's hard to get it going. But if you're absolutely right, it only takes a small group, but obviously a group that has to be together, of course, you can't be like 10 rows down, so you have to sing this one, and I hope it catches on, but it shows that when Everton are in fine voice, you're way from home, like Saturday Fragging and taking Newcastle when we stood, you could hear songs, you could hear the chair, and there's 50,000 Jordies in there with a couple of thousand other songs, you think, you get a percentage with our own crowd, it makes other people joining. And as we saw in the Dabin, I suppose that's got to be the main goal, isn't it, really, to try to get everyone together, I suppose? Yeah, it's got to be the main aim now, everyone's got to be together at some point, I don't know when. You've got to look for Bradley Moore, the new stadium, that's what you've got to push for now, but we're just trying to see what we can do now. Started this season, and hopefully next season something pushes on, better life, but I've just got to... It's been spoken about all season, hasn't it, how poor the atmosphere's gone, and we've done videos on it, and it's what we've found really hard is, it's really hard to call out fellow fans, do you know what I mean? You know, we're on the rock side of 40, let's be honest, we can't be telling people how things should be, or how things used to be in our day, things have changed in football. So for number one, I'm really glad that yous have decided to change things, and decide off your own steam to go and do something, because we've had people saying do this and do that, and it's hard to do that, you've got to get organised, and it's nice to see someone get organised, but have you felt like you mentioned the European games, and I think that's really interesting, because I think for years we've had this fascination with European football, and how they have the altars and how the atmosphere's, but the minute anyone days mention it in English football, you get ridiculed for it, you've seen the Crystal Palace altars, and people laugh at them when you're thinking, I'm gone, how come when it's a European team you think it's the best thing in the world, but as soon as it's a Premier League team, there's a cringiness to it, but it's stigma isn't it, that's all there is really, you're just getting rid of that, but the only way you're going to get rid of it is just by literally going ahead and doing it. You've got to push to do it. Everything's cop IPA even now, you can't bring your flag though can you, it's the good of some. Without the being cop IPA. Without the being cop IPA. That's a new thing though isn't it, when I say new I mean five, ten years. It's social media I think. If you go look back at like 84, Cuff Final, there's just flags everywhere, Evertonians, you know, you look at pictures. It's a 95 Cuff Final, even everyone look at home night in the semi. And I know it's because it's a big game, but why is it acceptable to take flags to Wembley and wear bobble hats and all that? As well in Europe. I mean I'll be honest in 95, I had a balloon from McDonald's because I went for me dinner there before the Cuff Final. I think it was a balloon. It wasn't red was it? No, I mean I do feel like I let people down by just having a balloon, but there you go, I didn't have a flag. You haven't played the let down. But I think in all of those big games, and you've just rightly said there's well away in Europe. It's like how boss does that look with all Everton flags and everyone's got the blue. Yeah alright, why is that not acceptable to Godderson then? It doesn't kind of make sense does it? I don't know, it's like I said before though it is stigma, it's just getting into that. Do you think Godderson's become just a habit for so many people that it is like a turn up? Well is it a chore isn't it? You said that! You said that! No, you're right because I mean I used to go to pub, go to match and then go to pub and then go home. And now I just go to game, pop into the church for a cup of tea, play, go and watch the match and then just go home. That's my match today and that's not because I honestly don't feel like that because I've got old. Because you're in the routine? Yeah it's just become a habit because it's like what's the point in going for a pint? Because they probably end up getting beat. So I'm not going to stay out afterwards if we haven't won. Where as years ago I probably would have. But now I wouldn't anyway. I think that's become a thing for a lot of people. It has become this chore. Ever and I haven't helped the situation by... I don't think they've done enough for me personally around the ground. I don't think they've... Just for you? Well yeah just for me because I've pleaded quite a coffee inside the ground. No but just you know I mean so I think it's getting out that habit isn't it? And what's happened is I think it's because it's become... It's gone on for so long that kids who started going on the game when they were really young. That's the only side of the football they've seen. It's just turning up going to match. Coming out disappointed and going home. So I think you know what user time to do obviously is go... There hasn't always been like this. There was something before this. Yeah well I think it's like the majority of season ticker old. I think it's something like 20-25%. Season ticker old is under 18 or under 16. So there are the people we really need to target. You want to get into it? So there are the ones you're going to be there for the future. So we really need to target them. That's what we're doing. We just want... How bad is it how young years come? There are the future. What do you have? You said over it mate you go. I don't like that. No but you're absolutely right because you know I say... My eight year old's got a season ticker when we come out of the derby. He was like... Oh my god that's the noise in there. He couldn't believe it because all season it's been quiet. He's not afraid of it. He's not afraid of it. He's not afraid of it. He's bouncing. He's sitting me up on bullens. He's dead you know. We're like a lot of... A lot of all fellas you know. But he was like buzzing when he come out because the noise was incredible. That's what you want every weekend. You like to kick start that again and give these other young lads going. Yeah we can actually be like that because... Believe it or not everything we're like that. And it's gone out. I think this make no mistake when it turned from standing on the terraces to sitting. The atmosphere's got way somewhere. It shouldn't be the only reason but it's the biggest factor that when you sit down you then become... You made a point on something we did the other week we were doing it is that you become like when you watch them at your own. So you're sitting your seat at home watching. It can be any game or whatever the way you haven't gone home. Whatever. And you're just watching the telly. And that's how good it's become because that's a lot of people's experience. That's how you watch football and you're sitting your seat. If it's not riproaring football you don't really get off your seat. We haven't been great which is a big understatement but you're waiting for the team to pick you up. And we've done something on a Twitter poll the other week about watch. I remember it was on the back of things that you were saying or it was something we were talking about was it is time to do something. Make something like you like to have. Or is it dependent on the team? A lot of people were like dependent on what the team do. We were like well that's what you'll be lying on. You've got to wait a long time because there's no guarantees. What you experienced in Germany like you said you went to Orlando sorry. There's a 0-0 game between the fans. Did you play a basketball? Exactly. What I would say is just you mentioned the under 18s or whatever. Those kids now who are coming to the match they've got a choice now. They can stay at home and play four nights. Or they can stay at home and watch everything on the telly or they could go to the match. Now we go with a nephew and he's been going since he was four or five. He absolutely loved it. He's 13 now and he's just like you know like he's got loads of cars like me to school. He's probably just like never been to a game in the lad. He's probably given loads but he's probably like I don't need this. But one of the reasons he's probably like that or one of the reasons any kids like that is like they go to the match and he's probably just sitting there and go I could be sitting there all watching this on the telly and he could make any difference. What was the fun? People love going to away games like you said because it's a little bit of an adventure. You get on the bus, you have a baby, you can get down there. It's also against their mentality. You sing, you have a laugh on the way home if you've got beat which happens more than not. You almost forget about your got beat because the amount of times, I mean I've been a couple of times with hands and it's like love that coach. They're all like I love me mates on the coach. I went to Wafford and it was a terrible game. But afterwards we had to go drink and we stayed out and it's all like great. I was like when I got home I was like that was a great day. I'm still like that out in Newcastle and I watch it in the house. It's still playing on my mind. And I think we've got to get that through to some people is that football is not just the thing that happens for 90 minutes. It is a culture and we've lost that. I mean people used to do all kinds. I know they still do. What they wear and what they read and what they listen to is all dependent on football. And I think we've just completely lost that somewhere and I think it's not just about singing. It's about a culture and I think we have to bring that back and it's all on you too. It is a big culture thing in England because obviously like you said the culture in Germany is to get in half before they get in. Sing with your flags, you know, get behind the team. But in England it's what, go walking five minutes before you get off. Walking what you get off. Eight points already and then walking five minutes to get off. But don't forget all that is because the ticket, the prices are high in Germany and in the ground cheaper isn't it. So that's a chance. I mean we went to Dusseldorf, said this before, so apologies. But we went to Dusseldorf, Noremberg. And Noremberg a bottom of the league. We went two games all season. The fans arrived, got bushing the airport with in the ground singing like an hour before or half an hour before flags and everything. They got beat. Lost a man after a minute. Sent off his buser. We didn't stop singing and they got beat 3-1 in the end. They were winning for ages, done an everything. We were winning with 15 minutes left and got beat 3-1. But their players come down and stood in front of them and they were all waving their flags and clapping up and that's it. That culture, you're winning 1-0. Wait mum, you're botting, you get beat 2-1. Throwing your arms around me and everything on the ground. So it is a culture thing. But that also comes into stuff we were saying last week about trying to encourage fans into the stadium earlier again in the club. This is where the club have a big role to play in that. They need to examine pricing on stuff and need to get people in and go listen, get in a bit earlier. You have to pint on 4 quid, the 3 quid, or whatever. Big clubs that are pub stores. A couple of years ago we were losing early beard after that. If you got into the ground it was an hour or 45 minutes to an hour before. It was like a pound off your pint or something like that. But you've never heard that now that I've heard that. You've spoken to the club obviously you're... We asked about the prices of stuff like that, but they said they've got it in contracts to put out some stuff in the cards. That's things where the club are going to have to look at that. They really want atmosphere. I was told to someone on your Twitter, I don't even know which one of these it was, but we've seen one of you tweet about culture. It's not just about... We've spoke loads about the rail seat and the safe stand and we're going to be putting videos about it next week. I think there's this idea that that's going to solve everything. But it's not because it needs a culture change. I'm sure you know this. When we were in Germany, getting into the ground early, because you've got to, because like you've said before, now, with my tichy, I'm in the Gladyses, I'm in GT5, but I can still turn up at two minutes to three and happily sit down and not worry about one thing and sit there for the entire game and then get up and go home. I'm not saying we should all have sit wherever we want, but there has to be a culture change within us if we really want this to go forward and get a good atmosphere. We're all getting tickets together. We're trying to get tickets together from Chelsea on the weekend to the end of the season. That'll be decent. We're just going to try and push it. We're trying to see if anything can happen. We encourage any people who want to get in early and we'll be with them. We've got a couple of plans for them, so we're just going to be all in there early, so we do just encourage everyone again just to get in early. I think that's that. It's vitally important, because I walk in two minutes to three in the upper bubble and sit down whilst I'm at it. I mean, get me that and we go home, you know what I mean? So it's not necessarily something I'm going to change, but there's loads I'll have to ship behind a goalie who won't be in the same area as usual, might be thinking, I wouldn't mind having a goal with that. And it's leading by what you two are doing and all your mates who've brought this together as you're leading by example. You're going, I've had enough of this. I've had enough of this coming to the game and wanting to sing and no one's interested. Whatever you want to do though, you just don't want to do something about it. That's society. No, it's true though. People want things, but people are not willing to give anything up for things. That happens everywhere. I get to the game an hour before kickoff and then it's like, what should we do now? We get to an hour before because we've got to part our car. We want to be doing now, so we go in the church and we still do. But if we could get in the ground and there was something to do in the ground or something to even see in the ground or the ale was cheaper or the coffee was cheaper or the food was cheaper or there was even somewhere we could grab a coffee and have a sit down. I think that all plays its part. I know people might think it doesn't, but it does because if you're there, you're adding to the atmosphere and I think as an atmosphere builds in the ground, it's allowed to build slowly. I mean, before the derby, people were on the concourses under the galaxy. The atmosphere was getting going and people were always just going to carry that upstairs and keep that going. But when people are just getting there five minutes before and it's flat and you're like, all right, mate. You see your mates and then you go upstairs and you see your mates and then you go upstairs and you sit down. You haven't seen them for a couple of weeks so you're chatting about box while the game's going on. I mean, it happens all the time, doesn't it? To be honest. And then it's like, you know, people are standing up in front and you go and you're, people are like, sit down will you? I'm trying to have a conversation here. But if people are in the mindset before, as soon as they get in that ground, this is different now. I think that's got a major, that's where the club has got a major part, I think. Maybe not this season, but going forward. Diolch. We've got to push the club really to make a change. Just like you said before, even if there's a place where you can sit down and just have a cup of coffee or a cup of tea or even a pint in the concourse, you don't know whether that'll fix the problem until you do it and have a go. So we just want to do anything to be honest to get it going so that we will do anything to be honest to get it going. Anything. But you've got to try it, haven't you? Even if it's a, I don't know about the megaphone. No. The megaphone for ball. You can do that. But even that though, that was a lovely idea, but it was just ill thought out. The idea of just giving someone a megaphone without anyone around them knowing what was going on. No organisation. Exactly. I think what's important is what users are starting from. Small. And everyone's on to you now. Everyone's saying those lads are doing something. And it's almost like, they're doing all the hard work for us. That's what people don't think. And that's where they'll start helping you. Cos by nature we're all lazy. We want someone else to do everything for us. But if users are passionate enough to do something, then it's like anything in life. It's like, oh, I wish I'd done that. But if you've got off your ass you might have. And users are doing that and hopefully that will get people to say, well I can't do that all week because I've got this or I've got that. But at the match, I will join in. And hopefully that's all you want, isn't it? You just want people to join in and get that atmosphere going. Yeah, just give it a go and just see what happens. If no one joins in, when you're singing, then at least you can just say, when no one was singing with us at a length of the night, we just walked away from the ground going, you know what, we don't have it. Exactly right. Exactly right. That's all we want now, just the people to just have a go. I think if you can sing you to grow, then what happens within stadiums is if you've got 30 of your shifrach in a corner or wherever you can get together in the stadium, you start singing. 30 people can make a good bit of noise. So then other people then just latch on to it then. It's not like two lads standing up going, and then people are going, you know, joining in with only two of them. But if 30 of you are together making a noise, then it will reverberate on the street then. And because the street then will sing, it's just getting them going. It's the first person to sing, getting everyone else going. That's it. But the issue is literally getting the first person. Yeah, yeah. So you're a group who will do that. Yeah. So you're almost like the conductors, really. Well, you are, aren't you? And as we were saying off camera before we started, it doesn't even take 40,000 people to sing. You said that on camera as well, it was less than 2,000. But if you start that end singing and 50% of the gladness sings, that's about 6,000 people or whatever in that end singing. It makes a lot of noise in our stadium. And then other people go, then the park ends start. And so that's gone out. It's 30 people. If 30 people sing, then you'll have another 30 people to go. Of course. They're having a go. And that's it. They look like they're having a good time. Then you'll have another 30 people and then just slowly it'll start. Because people are sheep, aren't they really? Because no one wants to be the first. No one wants to be the first people to stand up and start singing. But like you were saying before, one of the big problems is, whether we like it or not, is we all have our seats and we can't necessarily pick the person who sits next to us and the person who sits next to him. And the way it's gone over years and years is that obviously you'll have your little bits and bobs and people will sing and that person won't sing. And it's hard to just create noise in a singing area. Or you'll hear songs. I hear old times, they're glad to see that. I hear songs at one end. And there's a different song at the other end. And you're thinking, well, if we were all singing the same thing, then you'd get a bit of a noise. It'd sound better. And it's fine than that. And hopefully, you said before you get in the corner, hopefully within, you know, hopefully if we get to Bramley Mordoch, you'll get a nice little space in the front. You'll keep it going with a bigger set of people. And then what you'll find then is, I think is there'll be, you'll have a lot more power to affect things as well, because obviously abroad, those ulcers now, you'll probably start it out exactly the way you use it starting out. You'll have the power to control tickets and who goes in what area and things like that. And where you want to be in the ground, all these little things that will help the atmosphere. Because what you've got on your side is the manager came out after the last game in the plays and said the atmosphere was incredible today. Best atmosphere we've ever felt. And this is something we've spoke about in the last couple of weeks where, if you were a player at Everton, and you signed in the last couple of years, you're probably like, is the atmosphere shite here? Why am I? Why have I got any love for this club apart from playing for them? There's no connection between the fans and the players. I went like Mark O'Sullivan, I came out of the game and said the atmosphere. If he said, if we have 70% of the players, they're getting 30% of the game. But people need to look at that now, don't they? And say, you know what, we actually do affect the players. We can make a change. We as a fan base, if we can help those players and they win, then we can stand up and go. We've done our part. And if we play and the team get beat, but they've done their job, then you can walk out going. That was great. That today. And suddenly what you get there is, you get a feel good factor about going to match and play and start to latch on to that. And whether we like it or not, they try that a little bit extra. I know all players will say, we try as hard as we can. But they don't. And it's not. They threw it against Liverpool. No, I know. But what I'm saying is, is that it's not a thing where they go, I'm trying not to work hard today. It's just that something, that little exitani bit comes out where they're willing to, they're willing to just do anything they can to make sure that they win. And if you walk out of a game and go out of the box down today, you'll just be, I want to come next week and I want to come next week. That's all to me. People to enjoy going out. Because you go to match anyway. Because like, we said, it's becoming a chore now for people. And obviously you're paying, what, like £500 for your ticker. It's a shit. Do you want to go? You should. The prices of football now, though, it's crazy. But you, because the prices are crazy, you need to go and enjoy yourself. You've got to have more. You've got to have more. It's like it. You might just go and watch it. I don't know. Yeah? And you can now, and actually you can. You can. It's getting easy and easy and easy to watch games on foot. You don't tell me. So you might want to just stay and you put down. You paid £500 a quid to go and watch 19 crap films. You wouldn't go again. You'd feel like, every film you went to watch was crap. Everyone was sleeping in the cinema. You were just like, this is terrible. And you'd, why do you want to keep going back? And it's like, I was saying to Perth one the other week, you know, on that point he was talking about players. Under David Moyes, because he made it feel like it was us against the well, because he didn't have any money. The crowd were right behind the team. So that's why Tim Kiles giving it all, I love this club and Tim Howard and all that, because there was a relationship between the players and the fans, because that's a big week. We had to try and help them as much as we could, because we were skint. And because of that, they gave us good moments against Liverpool and we beat United. We beat all the top teams under Moyes y Cwldwsyn. All right, my way we did, my way we did. Because fans were behind it and that atmosphere was up with it. I think what we've moved away from since Moyes left after my partners' first season, because the footage hasn't been great and people have been getting wound up and frustrated, rightly so. We've been starved of anything. It is easier to just like come detach yourself from the game. And so as a footballer, coming through Everton with no affiliation to Everton, could you look through that Everton team and go and ask any of those players and go, do you love playing for this? Do you love the fans? They will go, oh yeah, but really, it's a little bit of a myth that probably like, the atmosphere is a bit crap. So why am I going to fall? We're not brilliant. We're not great. We're not going to win anything at the moment. So why should I fall in love with this club? But if our fans are fervently backing them and using them with your flags and all that, they're going to get that connection and go, I'm going to give everything for these. And that's how that love starts. And I think that's where the disconnection is with players, with fans now as well. On both sides, I think we look and go, I don't care if any of these leave. Come on, really bother. Where there's a few years ago, the thought of someone you like leaving, you'll be like, oh no, don't go. Now you're like, last. No, remain. No, no, you may. Sponsored on it. I can't even add anything else to that. So you, it is in your hands. That's what we keep going. Make every player Londoners. You mentioned before, the under-23s and the under-18s as well. Is there going to be, you know, obviously in the next couple of weeks, we've got the under-23s, we've got a big champion in the league. Is there going to be a big push? I'll be around Friday night. Don't know what stays, they should be there, shouldn't they? Play in Friday and out that. We're going to, under-18s is still in the cup. So we've got stuff planned for there, we have actions, but we focus on the main scene, not the main story. That's what people are actually saying. You've had, like, the club gave us a trial for that section, for the under-18 against Brighton, and that was a success. So the game was, you know what I'm saying, the possibility for a section. You know what would be brilliant if the big games. Play Brighton, don't you, the under-23s? Play Brighton at home. That could be that. That could be the title. It's a title these days. I know you might be busy or whatever, but that would be a really good one. That would be a really good section. That would be a really, that would be a really good call for people to say, you know, if you're really, the under-23, you've got a chance of winning a Sophie, go to some pub. We were there the last time they won the under-23. They got beat by Liverpool, but never. But it was a really, I think 7000 turned up, and it was a really, really good night. And I think that could be a really, a really good chance. Because especially if you said to the club maybe, you know, give us GT4 and GT3 in the Gladys Slyth, and it'll just be us and nobody else. You know, and if you could get people, that's maybe where you could draw people in and say, this is going to be a big one tonight for us. Because, you know, we're going to get a Sophie. We're going to help get a Sophie. That could be a good one just to show the club as well, I mean. The club, I like, what it was like. Yeah, that's good. Yeah. But you need that, don't you know? Well, it's hand in hand. It's got to be. It's got to be. Okay, no, but I'll bear out. No? Well, that's football. Well, that's football everywhere now. There's no, you know, you've got to have that. And from what we've seen off the club, they're always, they are quite good if you come up with an idea and it's, you know, they can, they'll look at it and as long as it works with the way they want it, they'll always help you. So you've got that. So what are the plans, you know, you mentioned this season, what are the plans hopefully for next season of moving forward? Next season, season tickets together, probably see what we can do. Yeah. Just see what comes up. You've got to take anywhere now. So even if the season tickets in, like GD8. All right. Obviously we're going to announce it on our Twitter or something like that. Just to say, get tickets in, get season tickets in GD8 or GD1 wherever. If you're interested in it. Yeah. That's all, that's where I come from. I mean, that's a, that's a really important thing. We're trying to get you together, as many of you, together as possible. Cos we were talking off camera before, but it's about all my future proof and there isn't a bram ni mo. If you can create something moving forward, then hopefully in the new stadium, they can just lash you all in together if people don't want to be together. And then after the battle's done, because the club, the club needs, it needs a group like this. It needs someone who's going to go, we'll stand up and we're going to do our bit to help you. Is there anything from European football that you'd love to do, but you can't do? Cos obviously the way we're a little bit different. Is there anything you'd love to pull from European football? Not really, you know? Sure, you don't want to be at the front with the microphone on the thing. On the little, you know, the little bands fans that they have on that being. It's really there. I'm sure you don't want that. No, no, no. We want to keep it as much, but it's like English as possible really. But we do want to, we just literally, but all you want to do is just make for that and see it. Just sing. Yeah, dance all you want. You're encouraging more flags and stuff. I know people have a problem with it, with flags and that. Not like banners, but I think the flags are brilliant up until kickoff. And then, of course, people will probably be like, hang on. No, I'm not. I'm saying, this is what you're going to experience. You've got loads of flags and people aren't really on board. The photos clap. Put the flags down. Put the flag back up. Yeah, put it up. Is there any more of that, or is it more like, is it scarves? Because what we saw, again, Jamie, what we saw on our thing, and what I saw in Orlando, and what we saw at that Atlantic game and things like that, the old way, the same colours, don't you? So I think that would be a good day if everyone could wear blue, maybe, or whatever. Listen, I know people might be going, what the fuck? These are the things I'm happy with. It looks impressive, like when you're all at that scene. It's like when we were talking about sailor, no one goes yet, I think it was off camera, and I'm not sure, no one goes to game in like an event and chase anymore, I don't see anyone in an event and chase anymore, do you in blue? It's got a blue coat. Yeah, a blue coat. Blue coat, yeah. I think that's, I think that's an interesting thing, it's things like that. It creates unity. Small things. It creates unity. It's like you were going back with like the casual scene. Yeah. Well, it's cool. You know what, but the audience would tell the audience, are we going to have to blow the blow wall? And that created a sense of unity between them and then we're all together. But imagine if you were all a blue one, everyone would be like, even if it's a blue coat or a blue, or a blue shoddy or never the shathe, it was never warm enough, that's the problem. But if you did, everyone would know wouldn't you? It's called the yellow wall for a reason. Because everyone wears yellow on it. But it creates unity. It's little things like that, that I think people have got to start getting behind though. And you know, might be in small numbers and they're building and building and building just to be like, because the club do enough, I think this is where the club can help, where they have things like retro days and things like that. The club could start doing things like wear blue day or whatever. We've seen that. Fans and the club, when they've had things in the park with the placards, they can work together. We've seen this and fans will take it on board. You don't see many people in the park when they've put the things up. People lash them, they go, no, I've got to do this because otherwise I'm going to look stupid. So I think if the club did encourage little things like that, wear blue day last game, the scenes against Baylor at home. Wear blue, whether it be a coat or whatever. I know it sounds stupid. But you just imagine if we were all in the lower gladus, let's say, and we all had blue one, whether it be a coat or a jumper or a top, everyone's got blue one and suddenly you've got all you can see, it's just blue. It's a blue one. I don't care if people cringe at that, things have got to start changing and things like that help, bringing flags, scarfs, getting it back to. It's not necessarily what it used to be like, but just something new, something to go forward, something to say, actually, we're all doing that part. They might be shite or whatever, but we're all doing that part and we're all having a laugh and we're enjoying going on again. But like I said earlier, we're all getting it early for Chelsea. So we are bringing loads of flags and banners. Are you going to encourage other people to bring flags? Yeah. If anyone wants to bring anything, even yourselves, if he's got any flags or banners, he's going to sit there and wave them around. I still might have me believing. You're believing from the news. No, but I think that's really important is put that message out there, that you're going to be in early. Do you go in the concourse and then go up? Do you go to the seat early? Is that the plan to just go to the seat early? Yeah. See if we can get it going in the concourse, but obviously not many people might be in. But we will be getting in the seat early, just like the day of your day. I'm just trying to start things. Yeah. Encouraging, like more colour and stuff. Yeah, yeah. Even that, if you look a photo from the 80s where you've got the big Evan and you've got all the Jack flags and stuff like that. Like, like that we've created something like that. I'd love to see banners all the way across the Gladysly. Will you have two up there? Yeah, there's two up there, but I'll be right the way across. Because that thing comes like a European kind of thing. Are you working with the Gladysly boys, is it? Have you spoken to them? We spoke to them briefly, yeah. See again, that's another thing. If you lads could work with them lads and again, it all just helps and you might be separate from each other and have different things you want to do. But again, that all just helps and all just plays its part and we're creating no poems or moustaches on the 80's. And if I yell at Rome, he's a dumb. I think Gladysly boys, I think they've got something going for Sunday, against Chelsea. We've laid down something in the park and well, yeah. But not going to that. No, no. That's alright. That's fine. It's something for people to look out for as well. I think it's good just to see the momentum that has built up now from the dabbing, I think. I think for some people and there will always be nice sayers, it's about majority rule at the end of the day and I think a lot of people came out of that dabbing going. I've played with news definitely, but a lot of people I think even in the sides, on the sides of the ground and stuff come out going. I shung a bit more than I normally do and I shouted a bit more and I got involved in the game a bit more than I did today and the players responded so I feel good about that. You come on going or I didn't win but you know what? Felt good going to that game and I think that's the atmosphere you're trying to create so that when we play Burnley or when we've got Fulmer, I know we've done it. Well every game's a big game now, it is a season, isn't it? Every game's a big game. Chelsea are something like the Burnley's the last home game so that always takes care of itself so every game now has got something on it which can help create a good atmosphere. And let's be honest the team needs just to help them doesn't it? Let's be honest, yeah. So you know hopefully we'll go forward and then you shall get bigger and the team will get better and it'll be great but at the minute there's a lot of help that you can get to kit to put them on show. Listen and I think it's absolutely outstanding what you're doing it's brilliant and just continue doing what you're doing and make it bigger do it better because that's how it'll grow you know? No pressure. No! Listen, they started it's up to everybody else to take them out long once you started that's all you're literally the all touch paper and you're setting it up and everyone else is there to sign help show. What is it if anyone wants to get involved with you is getting such with you or is there anything you want to shite at anyone up there or just everyone get an alien in Chelsea and even if you want to help us with anything if it's like design and ban is all literally anything or if you want to take apart and get a season take it next season just go on the Twitter and dial us So what's your Twitter? It's original 1878 So do it now if you want to get involved so that for next season you can be ready for the tip explode and also on Twitter as well give them a little thumbs up and all that to show because we do it we do appreciate everybody appreciates it but the most important people who appreciate it was the manager and the players because ultimately that's what we're going for we're going to watch Everton hopefully win football matches and for them to come out and go on above the atmosphere you know that's the biggest the biggest thing you need the biggest part on the back you can get the early show get behind it because this isn't it being crap open to the Darby to have it right the atmosphere the Darby show what it can be like so and I think it can be even better than that anyway so we'll have the siren again I think at the weekend and all that probably so it all feeds into it doesn't it so let's show Ross what he's missing and let's win the game and back the lads more importantly there you go big thanks for the originals for coming in sharing their story with us back them on Twitter thanks for watching we'll see you later