 In this episode of Mind Pump the World's number one fitness health and entertainment podcast, we answer the fitness and health questions that are asked by our audience. But the way we open the episode is with an introductory current events portions where we talk about stuff that's happening in the world. We talk about studies, talk about our own lives. Today's episode has a 38 minute intro portion. After that is when we answer the questions. By the way, if you want to see every topic time stamped in the podcast, you could fast forward to your favorite part. Go to mindpumppodcast.com. But if you want to listen to the episode the way it was meant to be heard, start from the beginning. That's right. So I'm going to give you a breakdown. We open up by talking about Cobra Kai, Adam finally finished season two. What a great show. Oh man. We all got to do karate. So happy you guys are watching. Then I talk about one of my great realization about my age. I'm not as old as I thought I was. Then we talk about cravings and alcohol. We talk about using the Instapot and making pork ribs in there. Instapot, by the way, it falls off the bone. Now my favorite source of pork ribs is Butcherbox. They use heritage pork. It tastes amazing. Butcherbox also has amazing grass fed meats. And the way it works is you sign up and they deliver it to your door because they deliver it to your door and you eliminate a lot of middlemen. The prices are incredible. And the meat is very, very high quality. So if you're interested in improving your health, you want grass fed meat, you want the protein for the gains, go to butcherbox.com forward slash mine pump. And by the way, if you sign up before the 23rd of September, you'll get ground beef for life. This is a crazy deal. They always run out of this. So hurry up and go over to butcherbox.com forward slash mine pump. Then we talk about Netflix losing a bunch of subscribers because of the show cuties. Maybe you shouldn't have done that. Then we talk about how San Francisco might be passing a bill that allow 16 year olds to vote. I think they're trying to just crash themselves as fast as possible. Horrible, horrible ideas. Then we talk about the fitness space and how the demand is strong, but there's a big shift that's happening. So a lot of trainers now are building online virtual businesses because a lot of people aren't going to gyms anymore or they're servicing clients at their houses. Nonetheless, this requires new certifications, new education on how to build your business in the new fitness space. Now we work with a company called NCI. They put out some amazing certifications. And right now for a limited time, they're offering something tremendous to mind pump listeners. If you go to NCI certifications.com forward slash mine pump, you'll get a huge, huge amount of certifications for free. They have it all bundled together to teach you how to build more impact and income with your business. It's a huge value, totally free to mind pump listeners. Again, it's NCI certifications.com forward slash mine pump. Then Justin brought up the new Mandalorian trailer. That's exciting. Who else is excited? We talk about the downsides of the market and how people may be working from home more than ever before, maybe forever. I talk about how rents and property prices are being affected by this new market. And then we get into the question. So here's the first one that we answered. This person wants to know what the best exercises are for the inner and outer thighs without machines. So we talk about strengthening those areas without access to lots of equipment. It's not the thymaster. The next question, this person wants to know what our thoughts are on suspension training. Is it really for everyone? Is it really as effective as people are saying? They must be hearing a lot of people's feedback who've been following map suspension. This is a program that's designed around suspension trainers. And we're getting tremendous feedback. Yes, suspension trainers do build a lot of muscle. If you want to follow an organized program, go to maps suspension.com. The next question, this person wants to know why every time they bulk, no matter how they do it, they just gain a lot of body fat. So we give them some strategies on how to bulk without gaining body fat. In other words, just building muscle. And the final question, this person's a new father. And they're a little worried about when they go to school and how to handle their lunches. Obviously, there's some challenges with other kids eating maybe unhealthy foods. They're going to be eating foods away from them so you can't monitor. So we give our tips on how to maintain your child's health without making them feel like they need to rebel. Also, I mentioned map suspension earlier as one of our more popular suspension trainer programs. But if you want to find a program that's tailored for you, we have lots and lots of different maps, workout programs, each one of them designed for different goals and for a different person. So if you want to train your body like a body builder, we have programs for you. If you want to train like a power lifter, if you want to just speed up your metabolism or focus on building your butt, be a better athlete, or if you want to train more like an athlete, or if you just want correctional exercise and more, you can find all of these programs that we created. This is me, Adam and Justin, with our combined 60 years of personal training experience. We're an old man together. We wrote these programs and they're very effective. They're written by trainers, not by celebrity fitness influencers who know nothing about training other people. Here's what you do. Go to mapsfitnessproducts.com, check out the different maps programs, find the one that works best for you, and follow it. You've got everything you need in the program to get in incredible shape. Again, it's mapsfitnessproducts.com. Turn on the red, turn on the red light. Yeah. I finally turned on the red light. I did. And I finally watched your guys' season finale of Cobra Kai. You want to know what's funny? My cousins, they have little kids, you know? And they're setting up their kids for karate. Because of Cobra Kai? No, they are. That's pretty good. So this has been my feel about the show. First came out on YouTube three years ago. I watched a couple episodes, and I was like, yeah, a little cheesy, kind of cool, whatever. Didn't really go back to it. Hits Netflix. Justin keeps raving about it. So I'm like, okay, I got to watch it. Justin's so far as 10 for 10 on his recommendations. 10 on you guys. Just listen to me. He's the guy. I continue. I start to watch and, you know, pass the two episodes I'd seen before, and I'm like, okay, it's starting to wheel me in. I like it. The deeper I get, the more brilliant I think the show is. And I don't think it's brilliant like it's, oh, it's written so great. It's not like a cinematic masterpiece or anything. Let me tell you what they did that's so brilliant. They did a really good job with all the different types of characters and topics they cover. They do, like, you can be someone probably as young as 12, all the way up to our age, because of Karate Kid, and they hit like every age group and almost demographic in there. So they do a really good job of that. All I know is for me, it hit me in the nostalgia bone, like hard. Whoa, this is some, the fight scene in the bar. It's a major bone. Bro, when the, when the Cobra Kai. The fight scenes are too much, dude. Dude, when the Cobra Kai, too much. Here's the deal. If you're my age, you grew up watching this. You identify with all these characters now in their 40s. So they're in the bar in their 40s, and some young dudes are starting to shit with them and you're just like, yeah, no mercy. I still got it. Yeah, exactly. Well, every guy our age is like that. They do the same thing with all the kids in high school. And they do a good job of like, what, the second to last episode without being like spoiler, they like, they, you know, they build this rivalry between the two girls, you know, and so you've got like this girl power struggle going. You've got like the sweet girl who's like, tries to be really nice. Because then you have like the kind of the hard girl that came from a rough upbringing. And like, well, I love the dynamic of basically like Johnny's son is being trained by Danny and then like the back and forth between that and then his daughter and then the romance. It's like they intertwined all of those things, you know, that we grew up with using their kids too. And they'd brilliantly set up the next season because now, first of all, they're both likable. So in the original Karate Kid, you don't like Cobra Kai. They're obviously the bad guys. And Daniel and Mr. Miyagi are the good guys. Which I was like the only one that liked them. I don't know. I was an asshole. Because you were a dick. You were a bully, bro. You were a bully, that's all. You were riding around in your dirt bike, you know. Dude, but like Daniel also, he would come back and he would start shit again. They left him alone. He comes back, he pours water over the thing, you know. He just keeps stoking it. He's still that bully. I'm just saying. He deserved it. But anyway, now you got Reese coming back. What's the name? Chris or whatever coming back? Yeah, Chris. And I bet you it's going to be Daniel and Johnny versus, you know, the evil side of Cobra Kai. Yeah. Yeah, like they're going to team up. Exciting. Dude, speaking of, speaking of exciting old guy stuff. So I had a huge realization. What's that? Recently. I'm not that old. Oh, yeah. Wow. Yeah. You know what happened? Who lied to you? So I did. You lied to yourself. I used the filter on the Snapchat. Yeah. Hey, look, I bet. No, what happened? My mom told me. You know how you're always a better trainer to your clients than you are to yourself? Whenever I would train, you know, men and women in their 40s and I'd hear them say, it's not like I was when I was younger. And I'd always point out, like, look, you're not as active, your diet's not as good. Do those things first. See what happens. Failed to do that myself. Right. So I'm thinking, just God, I'm not built. I don't build like I used to. My body doesn't respond like it used to. And I'm, you know, having this argument with Jessica. Making all these excuses. Yeah. And I'm having this argument with Jessica like, listen, honey, I know my body. Okay. I've been training forever. Like it's just, it's just older, just not responding. Anyway, I started doing, you know, working out more frequently and boom. Imagine that. And he's coming back. Imagine that. What a great and stupid realization. Oh, look at that. If I just exercise more, my body starts to respond. That's what I noticed. I noticed now, maybe that's because like you, I think you've found all the hacks as a trainer, right? I definitely do less and less. Like that's what I find myself like, oh, what's the bare minimum I can do? Yeah. To maintain my physique this week. Yeah. I found that sweet spot. Yeah. I catch myself having that conversation quite often. And it's like, that's not my, the way I thought. Yeah. And then the one time you're like, oh, I still got it. You push it too far. And then you think, oh, I'm old. No, no, you just went too hard. You need to be doing this more. When the caffeine hits you just right, you play the right, you know, song from Rage Against the Machine. Oh yeah. And go a little too hard. It's real easy to go too far. Yeah. That's definitely because I'm old. Not because I didn't warm up or any priming, you know, whatsoever. We should come out with a MAPS, you know, program MAPS, like the bare minimum. The bare minimum. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You can have four burgers a week, you know. One workout a week. Like MAPS dad bod. MAPS dad, yeah. How to get a dad. How to maintain. Honestly, on that note, I think it's kind of a good topic and conversation, right? Like, you know, I've really figured out like, okay, you know, how do you have balance, right? Like, how do you still get to eat these foods and not weigh and measure and still enjoy things like a burger and fries every once in a while? And what I have found is that if you're just really hyper aware of the behaviors that they pair together, right? Like it's, you have this tendency of when you're also lazy or missing workouts, you're also craving the bad food or making the bad decisions. If you can just learn to curb that a little bit and be like, okay, I'm not going to say no, I'm not going to have this burger every once while or enjoy this meal. I'm just going to be smart about it and not allow myself to do it when I've also been sitting on my ass for two days in a row and having that balance in itself just, hey, there's like, and this is taking me a long time. Like I've talked about how I don't ever have ice cream hardly ever, right? Because that was like a major like addiction for me. So it took me a long time to like allow it in the house and there's been a- This must have been a big deal. You always bring it up. This must have been a big deal for me. I'm not exaggerating it. When I tell people that like, I think people probably think I do like, he probably wasn't. No, for 10 years minimum, okay, 10 years minimum, I ate ice cream every single night. How much? Like a pint, dude. Oh my God. Yeah, like 1500. Every night. And I justified it because I was fit still, right? So, 50s? Yeah, that's the go-to, man, for sure. But the thing is though now is like, and it's taken me like years of like getting it out of the house forever, right? And then allowing it to kind of come back and do I have this discipline? Can I have this carton of ice cream in my freezer and only allow myself to do it when I know that I've been on track with eating on track with training and then intermittently allow it? I think it's fine when I do that. Problem is it's the times I want it most are always not after the workout. After I have a great training day and a good diet, I actually rarely crave or want those things because I feel like, oh, I did really good today. I want to keep this momentum going. It's when you really want it, it's normally when you're also not doing shit. And if you can just become aware of that and balance that better, I find it pretty easy to make. It's when you're bad, when you're in that mood. Yeah. I don't want to work out. Yeah. I'm going to have ice cream. Right. Yeah. It doesn't say it so much. And then it's like can't make patterns out of it. Right. And it's compounding. I don't have any of that stuff in my house because when I get into that space, I know what happened. This happened to me the other night when I'm walking around the house and poor Jessica, right? I almost get mad at her. I don't get mad at her, but I know she feels it from me because I'm looking through like, damn, I don't have anything to eat like. And I'm just looking for snacks. Right, right. She's like, why, do you want me to buy them? And I'm like, no, don't buy them. Yeah. You know, while I'm gritting my teeth because I know what's going to happen. Is that a guy thing? Is that a guy thing where you get up to the refrigerant and you open it like five times? Yeah, he's just looking. Yeah, maybe I miss something. Yeah, because you're always like, what are you looking for? I don't know. I'm just looking. Yeah. We'll stay here a minute. Right. Just tell me. I'll tell you if we have it. I don't know. I'm just going to look at it for a minute. Dude, you know what does it for me? Sometimes you do find it. You know what does it for me is pickles. I can eat pickles. If I feel like I want something, pickle does it for me. Really? Yeah. Isn't that weird? You're a pickle eater? Yeah. All right. Yeah. Slice them though. I don't eat them like you do. No, hey. It's your own, right? But it's the saltiness. I think I'm not sweet. Like, you're like sweets. I don't like sweets, Justin. Cheese. Cheese. If something, if I can have some. Blocks of cheese. Salty, then I'm doing okay. That's Katrina. Really? Yeah, yeah. Salty or like alcohol. Alcohol is the other thing. So we have a good girlfriend of hers. It's just got pregnant, so this weekend when we're all hanging out. And the other couple we're with also has two kids. So it's like all kid and pregnancy talk. And the girls are all talking about all these different cravings or what was the hardest part with your diet. And Katrina was like, yeah, just not having alcohol was the hardest thing for me. Honey, you sound like an alcoholic. It was though when. She's like, you try being married to Adam. She's my spirit animal. The first thing that she went and enjoyed and she would always rather that. Like I'm the type of guy who's like, man, we had, in fact, we were walking downtown Tahoe over the weekend and someone's like, hey, let's stop and have frozen yogurt. I'm like, oh man, I haven't had frozen yogurt well over a year. Fro yo. Yeah, I'm like, let's do that. And Katrina's like, no, no, no, I don't want that. I'm like, you don't want like a little, you sure? No, no, no. She's like, I'd rather have a couple glasses of wine tonight. I'm like, okay, whatever. Hey, you know in Europe, pregnant women have a little bit of wine. Did you guys know that? It's not a big deal over there. Why is that? I don't know. For whatever reason, in Europe, in France, they say, I think half a glass of wine is okay. That's what they say over there. Over here, it's very much like no alcohol at all. Yeah, I mean, there's some, I've seen some groups where I've seen some ladies that they do like have a little bit of wine and it's not a big deal. No, that's the thing apparently over there. So, you know, Jessica's got a lot of friends that are international because when she worked for the Cirque du Soleil, a lot of people were either Canadian, French, Russian, you know, a lot of people from outside the country. And she says, yeah, they'll have a little bit and it's not that big of a deal. And I told Jessica, don't do that in public here in America because 100% if I saw a pregnant woman drinking wine, I'd be like, what are you doing? Yeah, I remember one time Courtney was at the grocery store and she was pregnant and I'm like, oh, can you grab me? Like I was getting her to buy some beer. She's like, thanks a whole lot. You know, like everybody in the store was just, I shamed her. Katrina's family, I've talked about like how they're like, they get together all the time and it's food and alcohol is like the big event. So when Katrina was like nine months pregnant, we were heading over to her family's house and like they asked us to stop. She runs in the grocery store and she gets like, you know, like a grocery cart of nothing but alcohol. She got this big belly, she came out and she said, you should see who looks like, yeah. She had to like, she can't look at people like, I'm not drinking this, this is for somebody else. Babe, give me a pack of cigarettes and a beer please. This is getting you back for all the times. You may go buy a tampon. Hey, I meant to ask you guys, and is this true? The theaters open back up. Yeah, I think not here. A few of them. Yeah. Well, I think there's certain counties where they've sort of put them on the low risk. And so we've had theaters in Santa Cruz. There's a few of them. How are movies low? I have no idea. It must be every other aisle spaced out or something. It's definitely limited. So there's only a few people allowed in at a time. Like I think you're allowed like a group of four or something. And then like, you have to like, you cluster together with the people that you kind of came in there with. But yeah, there's no good movies out. So me and Courtney thought about doing that for a date just because it's like been so forbidden. And you know, it's like, ooh, it's forbidden. You know, like, I want to do this. Let's go watch a movie. Yeah, we used to do this. Is that sex in the theater? Yeah. Do the old popcorn move. Yeah, no, terrible movies out right now. Well, you know, I'm looking forward to, you're right, all movies, there's no good movies coming out. But there are, there is a... There's streaming. Well, there's a couple of superhero ones. I think there's a new X-Men coming out. Yeah, well, there was supposed to be Wonder Woman, which I was a little bit excited about. Can't wait. But yeah, they pushed that out to, I think, December or something. But they were like, we're not going to make any money because they already put another movie out to try and test it out. And obviously it did really bad. Yeah. Hey, so what's this thing that we're doing today? We're doing like a photo shoot. All I know is I got a message with Rachel telling me to make sure I wear my beater. Yeah. What are we doing? I don't know. No, that's not how to make a fool of yourself. That's not how the message went. The message went, I don't feel like I should have to tell you this, Sal, but make sure you wear a beater today. Yeah. Your response was every day. Yeah, yeah. It hugs me. What are we doing? Did you see... I have no idea, bro. Oh, you don't know it? I didn't know it. That's a surprise. I don't know it. I don't even know. I usually know these things. Yeah. But did you see the story that I posted last week that was for you, dude, where the four of us... Oh, your old one? Yeah, yeah. When I was in high school, the four of us all in a picture, all holding a beer. What is with that, too? I was going back just for shit's sake. Oh, I thought I was hilarious. Yeah, because both of you have been posting a lot of old pictures of you and throwbacks. I'm like, you know what? I got to go through my shoebox of photos and see what I can find to throw up there on the stories. And I found that picture. And I also found a bunch of other pictures. I'm like, when you're like 18 to 20, it's like cool to take photos with alcohol. Yeah. You know, it's just holding it. It's funny. It's like the opposite now. Like bottle and jack. We got together and we had like this big group photo and everybody had like a glass of wine. So everyone's like puts the alcohol out of the photo when you're older. I don't want to look like a degenerate, right? Right. Yeah. When you're a kid, when you're a kid and underage, you're like shaking of like... Yeah, grab the beer. We had... I even guzzling it. I even did stupid shit like this. Like we... There's a photo. Like what the fuck am I ever going to do with this photo? There's a photo of the weekend of alcohol, all the alcohol we drank in the weekend. And we... Like a shrine. Yeah, a shrine. We kept it all and took a photo of it. We used to do this with like all the bottles over the summer that we drank. And it was like, I got really into Crown Royale. And so we had like... Good, I'm not alone on this. We had this huge just like closet full of bottles of just like crown and then like the handles. And I'm like, oh my God, we have a problem. It's like, when you're that age, you're like... You're like proud of it. You're like, yeah, look at this. It seems like such a good idea. Like, oh man, I'm going to show everybody how cool I am. Now, did you do this too when you were underage as a kid? Did you like, you know, every smuggle, like you had a bottle of vodka in your closet or hidden somewhere like that and mom ever find it? Did you guys have to, did you do that? Hell no. My mom would clean my room till I moved out. She would have found that shit. That's right. I forgot about that. Sal was the kid. Mom made his bed, put his clothes out for the day. And she like that. Hey, did I ever tell you... I'm convinced. I earned every day socks and stuff. Old school Italian mom. It's like totally ruined me. Did I ever tell you guys about the... She did try to like, fight with me over making my bed and it lasted a certain period of time and then she finally gave up. Whoa, wait a second. Now, when is this like when you're 30? No, no. I didn't move, I moved way out before that. I was 19 or 18. No, 18 when I moved out. But when I was, I don't know, 15 or 16, I don't know what happened. She just decided all of a sudden she was going to make me do chores. And I'm like, it's been a long time. You've already trained me one way. Just a little special dreams you were having. Yeah. She's like, you're going to do your bed from now on. Yeah, that's it. You do your own sheets. Gross. I can't get you something. That's exactly how it was. That's exactly how it was. She didn't say what it was for, why it was, but it was exactly what it was. You're going to peel the socks off the wall. But she knows, she's like, you're going to make your bed every day before you go to school. And I was like, I'm not going to... And so it was this back and forth. And so what she would do to make her point is she'd rip my sheets off my bed so that I just had a mattress and she thought that would make me make it. Yeah, you just slept on it. Jokes on her. I just grabbed the blanket and slept on the bed. Carried that into college, just slept on the ground. So because that was a thing for you, how do you handle that with your kids now? Do they have to make their bed? And was that a struggle for you? Well, so here's the deal. Definitely wasn't a good thing. I mean, I know where it came from. It came from a good place, but I didn't know how to do anything for myself. When I moved out, I had to ask my neighbor when I had an apartment. I had to ask my neighbor, what soap to use to wash my clothes, how to operate the washing machine, a vacuum cleaner, which one's a good one. I had to turn on the dishwasher. I put the wrong soap in there. Where's the power button? All this stuff. I had to know how to do any of this stuff. So my kids, and thanks to Jessica, really helps trying to make them more self-sufficient. That's a way better. That's the way you should raise your kids, not the way I was. I literally moved out and I was like, now what? I had tuna fish sandwiches every day. Where do I go? Speaking of food, dude, Instapot. Those things are amazing. So we got a recipe from Jessica to use with the Instapot for those ribs. So we're going to try it out tonight. Dude, so ribs, all ribs are amazing. I did the pork ribs in there. So I've done both, right? So I think that the- It comes out, the bone, you pick it up and the bone falls off. I think it has something to do with the butcher box ribs too. I don't know if it's the size of them or they fit just right in the Instapot, but I've done it with other ribs and it didn't turn out as well. Really? Did you have to do it longer or? No, I think it was, maybe that's what I should have done. Maybe I didn't cook it long enough because I did like a other set of ribs in there. I think I did like beef ribs from somewhere else and just didn't turn out the same as the butcher box ones. So it depends on what you're using. So I think the Instapot does great for that, but trying them with another brand or like bigger ribs, I think butcher box ribs are like, they're smaller. They're not quite as big as like when you go to the grocery store with your hormone-fed animals. The dinosaur ones. Yeah, and those just don't do as well in the Instapot. At least that was my experience. Well, so I know they use heritage pork and I think that might be why. It might be. Yeah, because heritage pork is, it just tastes better than other pork. It's got nice marbling. It's easier, it's better to cook. So that might be one of the real ones. Well, I'll tell you, the first time I did it, I knew it was going to be good when I went to grab it out of the Instapot and it literally, I grabbed it by the bone and it just came right on. That's what happened. It just fell, false. Yeah, that's what happened. Slides right off, false. Well, the other thing we've been doing is we've been buying short ribs over at the Asian Market over here in San Jose. Ever since Doug made that recipe with the, remember that when I set the barbecue on fire? The Mexican restaurant's better for that. What do you mean? They have a better, I think personally, so that's like Katrina's brother's thing. Are you going to the butcher there? Yeah, well, they have a, forget the name of the grocery store, but it's a Mexican grocery store and the butcher has already seasoned short ribs and they're amazing. So we made it. That's what attracted our bear last time. Oh, really? Yeah, to like 14 pounds of that stuff. So we made a marinade with soy sauce and I didn't remember anything else. We put in the ginger, onion. I don't know, we made this marinade that we found online, marinated it for a few hours, put them in the Instapot and it's crazy about the Instapot. It's like five minutes, six minutes and it comes out and then you put them under the broiler a little bit just to kind of make the color nice and the texture nice. So I'm like reorganizing because eventually I'm going to get work done in my house and my kitchen remodeling. There's a lot of remodeling in my future and I'm trying to see all those different items like that that I want to include. So the air fryer was one of those. You guys keep talking about it. Haven't used that yet, but we've been doing a lot of stuff in the crock pot and all that kind of stuff. But like, yeah, the air fryer, what's the other one called? Air fryer and Instapot. Instapot, yeah. Those have been game changers. Yeah, there's also the slow cooker. Instapot. Slow cookers make really good, what do they call them? Crock pot. Those make really good, like stews. I got to get a trigger, dude. I'm convinced I got to get one of those. The only drawback of the trigger right now. You don't need one now, right now. You just put your food outside. Well, yeah. The nice, smoky, disgusting. Yeah, it's disgusting. You get a little ash on it though, that's the only thing. No, I absolutely love mine. The only drawback of it is it's not a fasting, right? So I have a gas grill and then I have the trigger, right? And the trigger is when I'm in the mood on a Friday or a Saturday and I want to grill for like four to six hours. Like it's not. It's a long process. Exactly. So when you go back and you go like, okay, how often do I want to grill for four or six hours? It's normally a weekend thing. Is this like a golf thing where you're like, honey, I'll be outside for four hours. That is what it is. Hey, it's another dad hack. You control it all on your phone though, right? You don't have to manage it. No, no, he's got to watch. Yeah, you got to watch it. You don't tell the wife that you can control for the phone. You know what I'm saying? It's just like, I'll be back. Sorry, I don't mean to get that cigarette. I'm cooking. I'm outside cooking, okay? Yeah. Yeah, it's it. For sure. Golf and trigger barbecue's are the dad hack. Yeah. That's how he was scared. I'm busy looking at the meat. Oh, and washing your car. Those are the three, right? So I'll go get the cars washed. I'll be back tomorrow. Oh, but I haven't vacuumed it yet, yeah. Bring it to the kids house. Yeah, wash it real quick. That's why I built things outside. Now you guys know. Well, at least, I mean, it's good stuff though. You're doing good things, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, anyway, it's a lot. But hey, the Instapop makes the meat just fall right off the bone. And so that's like the way we're going to make it from now on. Forget the oven. That's just the way to do it. Yeah, it's delicious. Hey, do you guys see what's happening in Netflix? Well, other than that freaking cutie, yeah. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah, they're getting a lot of heat for that. Well, so good. Okay, so people who aren't aware, which is good if you're not aware. That means you're not following all the crazy news that's going on all the time. But there's this, I guess, this movie that, I guess, it sexualizes little girls. Yeah, it's showing these 11-year-old girls doing things that are just, I guess it's very tough to watch. And now the person, the maker of the movie, saying, It's about a girl who's from like a conservative family. And her way she rebels is she starts a twerking team with like, I think 10 other girls. Now to be fair, I haven't watched it. I don't want to watch it because I've already, the cover alone makes me, and I don't even like watching pageants with little kids. Exactly. I don't even like watching that, let alone something like whether they're twerking or whatever. But apparently people are up in arms because they're saying this is sexualizing children. And so Netflix is under fire for it. Their cancellations eight-fold over the weekend went up. Whoa. Eight-fold. So they have a normal amount of cancellations that happen. Times eight and it seems to be accelerating. Good. So this is, I mean, it's a market response, right? You know, see what happens. You know what I thought was interesting about that, right? So I didn't see it either. But I have read the news on it is I have never seen such a discrepancy between critics and actual viewers, right? You know how Rotten Tomatoes does, the critics is for the tomatoes and then the popcorn. So yeah, creepy critics are, huh? Well, yeah, that's why it's so weird. It's like they get like, there's a lot of critics that gave it 80 something, 80 something percent and anything over 60 is normally a pretty solid movie. But then it's 3% for the people that watched it. So there's only, you know, and the 3%, at least probably one and a half are pedophiles, right? So there's, there's only only like one and a half percent of the people, weird people out there that actually think that that was a good film. Well, you have the two politicians who are pushing against it. The hardest, Tulsi Gabbard. She's a Democrat. Actually, I like her quite a bit. She did this whole thing talking about how it's like you're fueling, it's soft core pedophilia. You're fueling these things in people. This needs to be taken down. She's the one that called out Netflix, right? She called them out. Ted Cruz, who's a Republican, says that they need to be investigated for it. Now, some people are saying it's actually making the case that children are being hypersexualized and so the whole thing is to bring awareness around it. I feel like you can bring awareness around it in better ways, but I don't know. The people that I've seen that actually defended that's their thing is like they're saying like, you know, a bunch of you need to wake up. This is what your daughters are already doing. So if they got TikTok, they got all the stuff, they're doing shit like this. And so all of you that are pointing the finger and making a big deal about this probably should look in the mirror and pay attention to what your daughter's doing. Here's the thing, but it was Netflix conscious decision to put it in their catalog. By no means am I defending it. And also, look, okay, you're making the case or whatever, but you know what trips me out? The parents of these kids, actors, you know? You imagine your kid is 11 trying to be an actor. That's been the story forever. Like parents bringing their kids the Hollywood to do just whatever, just to get them a screen time. That's like, you know what that is? That's a parent that's living vicariously through their child. That they didn't make it. I mean, it's, I mean, it's an extreme example of putting them in harm's way. Of the, you know, I mean, I gotta, this will be my issue. Like trying to push my kid into basketball. I'm like, live out my dream that I didn't finish. You know what I'm saying? It's like, dad, I want to play the piano. You're playing basketball. Yeah, yeah, that's what you're doing. You can if you dribble at the same time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't understand some of these parents that, you know, even look at my, I have a 10 year old who's about to turn 11. First off, I would never put her in any kind of modeling or acting. I think that's a terrible message to give your kid that you're valued for your appearance at that young age. I don't think that's a good thing. There's a reason why young actors grow up always to be messed up. Just completely messed up. But let's say I did. Let's say I'm like, okay, I'm fine with that. I wouldn't even want my 11 year old to cuss in a movie because that's her part. It's like, nah, it's inappropriate. You know, she shouldn't be doing it, even though she's acting. Speaking of kids doing things too early, did I hear a rumor that somewhere in California trying to pass 16 year olds being able to vote? Did I hear some shit? Oh, San Francisco. What? Yeah. It's on the ballot. It's just, Justin's gonna blow his mouth. That's the last straw. Can I just tell you, old man Justin's my favorite Justin. I can't, I can't, man. It's like too much. No, so it's on the ballot to allow 16 year olds to vote in local elections is on the ballot. That's so smart. What a terrible idea. Yeah. What a 16 year old. They have great ideas, don't they? Yeah, you're, oh, we just passed an initiative, Free Pizza Wednesdays in San Francisco. What are you doing, dude? You know? Oh, we just passed a new law. You can't ground your kids anymore. It's considered abuse. They're so lazy, they don't even want, like, to get their license anymore. Yeah, they probably just get driven around, drive me around, man. So I can still have my thumb down. Did you? Old man Justin again. Like, dude. He's so, like, entitled. He's the best. No, but kids are, they're younger now than they were before. What I mean by that is it's clear that adolescence is getting stretched out. Part of that is because the skills required to enter the workforce. There's more skills. It's been happening forever, right? Yeah, yeah. You know, my grandfather's generation, an 18 year old was like a 30 year old or something today, right? So it keeps happening. So I don't understand why they want to lower the, the voting age. A 16 year old today is like a 10 year old 50 years ago in terms of responsibilities and worldly, you know, understanding and knowledge. Yeah. So it just, it just doesn't. Horrible idea. So I got a positive thing for you guys. So I got a bunch of DMs that related to the conversation we had just the other day about the increase of people that's saying that they're never going to go back to the gym, like 50% now or some ridiculous number. And of course, all the trainer, I get, anytime we talk about stuff like that, like I get all the trainers that work in gyms, like sending me messages like crazy, like, oh my God, what am I going to do if the gym doesn't open or I'm feeling it already. And, you know, this is another reason why I really like our partners in CI. They're always thinking about stuff like this in ways that they can actually help out these trainers. And so he's, they, and Jason's doing a, what is it Doug? It's like basically a free, it's free, right? 100% free for our audience. Yes. And it's, go ahead. It's called build impact and income. So it's a whole course, essentially, or a bunch of courses teaching you how to build. And they're doing it free for our listeners. Yeah. Not eight, look. So I'll tell you what, the fitness industry is definitely being challenged, but not because the demand for fitness went down. People need to understand that. Right. If there's- It's even more essential now. Yeah. So if there's a drop in demand for fitness, then everybody's kind of screwed. But what we're seeing in the fitness space is a shift in how you're going to deliver fitness. So this is not a bad thing. If anything, if you're smart, this presents some incredible opportunities. So our friend, Marlon Chamelle, who he'll be appearing on our YouTube channel pretty soon, real smart trainer, knows his stuff. I think, what's his Instagram? I think it's Marlon, is it Marlon Fitness or Chamelle Fitness? Yeah. Something like that. Anyway, really, really smart dude, great trainer. He was training a lot of clients in, you know, personal training studios. Obviously everything happened. They shut down. Smart dude, he's very proactive. He went and built his online business. And he's like, he goes, dude, I'm more successful than I ever was before. Yeah, that's cool. Now that I'm doing online training and I'm meeting, you know, higher paying clients at their houses, he's like, I'm doing a lot better. So that's the thing is that you can't, it's not a reduced demand for fitness. Got to pivot and evolve. Totally. It's not a reduced demand. It's just a shift. Don't you feel that it's kind of, that's what's kind of happening in like, not just our space. I feel like that's what's weird about this time we're going through, right? We keep talking about like, how hard the economic times are. But then there's this other side of people that are having tremendous success. It's almost just like, the way we've done business for so long, many of these things are being disrupted because of COVID. All these institutions are completely having to change and it's forced to change. Dude, I'll tell you what, if you're looking for, let's say you're a student right now and you want some part-time work to support yourself or not, you just want to have, make more money or whatever, the opportunities for these delivery services are crazy. Still to this, right now buying groceries and having someone bring them to your house right now, there's still a shortage of people doing that because so many people want to buy groceries and have them delivered. You can obviously order food that way with DoorDash and I know who else is doing that. There's lots of companies in essence that are now hiring contractors to go out and just deliver goods and services. Huge demand for that. So you can do really well and it's very, very flexible, you know? Yeah, I was stoked this morning, somebody told me that the new Mandalorian trailer was out and because you guys brought up Cobra Kai, I gotta say, like this is another one, I'll put my stamp on. I just watched the trailer. I'm really excited about it. It's like, dude, we've been so devoid of any kind of entertainment because no one's been able to film anything, let alone put something new out there. So this is like, finally October 30th, I guess is the release date for that, but it's like one of those like staple shows that I'm looking forward to watching that and ignoring all the burning that's happening. Well, I was going to kill it for you when they're all wearing COVID masks. Well, they're all wearing helmets anyway, so who gives a shit about that point? That's great. Speaking of trainers that are on our YouTube, did you see the video that Serene shared this morning with Simon Sinek? No, I didn't see it. So she shared a video on Simon Sinek who is addressing this, you know, will office space just like dye and will, you know, companies like Twitter saying that we'll remain, you know, the ability for people to work from home. What's your guys' thoughts on that? Do you think that, and we're talking about how, you know, business is going to be done so different? Do you think we're going to move to a model where nobody really comes into offices anymore? What's your thoughts on that? I think it'll be hybrid. I don't think so, yeah. I think it'll be more hybrid. I think you see more people than before staying at home. I still think there's value in people meeting for meetings or events for that team atmosphere, but I think it's going to be much more hybrid. Yeah, I think it'll be less frequent, like, you know, but they'll definitely find value from that person-to-person interaction because it creates a whole different dynamic. And a lot of times it's just, I think it's more the creative process and really just kind of tying in different departments together. Like, I think that's essential for people to have real interactions, to accomplish, you know, bigger goals, but then maybe disperse and work remotely after that. I agree. So that's the case that he's making, right? So he talks that he's built a virtual business for the last 10 years, and he goes, anybody who thinks that that's easier or better is ridiculous. It's way harder to build trust. It's way harder to build a culture. It's way harder to get everybody engaged in working together. He goes, you know, so this idea that there's companies that think that they're going to go full virtual and never come back to the office and are selling office spaces or moving out of that, he goes, I don't see that. But he did, you know, and I don't know if they're publicly traded. Maybe it's, is we work publicly traded? Oh, are those, are you rent space? Yes. Oh, I can see that exploding. It's already exploding. And I do, I can get behind this. Like I do see a lot of companies doing that. He said already, like a lot of these big companies have signed big contracts with WeWorks. So instead of them owning their own office building and managing, you know, this massive thing, they just rent out X amount of spaces so many times per month and then you still have some of these in person. Then they save a bunch of money. Are they publicly traded? Not yet. Damn it. Yeah. Keep an eye on that. Oh, so they were trying to go IPO, but they didn't. Now I would invest in that 100% because there's a couple of opportunities here. One. So it was a bad investment last year. I brought this up on the podcast before. So I, because I thought it would be a smart investment for it. And supposedly they don't make as that much money. And it might have been why it was a failed IPO. So read more on it before you just go decide that you're going to invest in it. Because it was, it would be a terrible investment just last year based off the news I was reading. But it's interesting what's happening right now. It might be something that would be smart. I think a hybrid model is going to be best where people mostly work at home and then they meet together for projects or for events for the team building aspect. I think the employees, which essentially are the consumers there when, you know, when you think of it that way are going to drive it. I think a lot of people value the flexibility of being able to work at home. I think it would be smart to build something similar to what we have here. But let's pretend this we have like, let's say that front area we designed more office spaces. Imagine if we did that where we part-time rented it out. So we don't use it all the time. I mean, our staff is rarely ever here. You know, they're here intermittently, but when they were not, if we actually had it more organized and scheduled to where it's like, oh, why not just lease out all the offices in the front to all these people and almost become like your own little mini we work. Well, dude, I'm another opportunity I'm thinking about as a commercial space. It's got to crash because- I'd be afraid to touch that. Oh, dude, storefront facilities already are just shutting down left and right. No, it's already dipped over 25%. There you go. And then on top of it, you have these massive offices, right? I know Pinterest paid, I don't know, $89 million something to end the release. So did REI built a massive thing. What are they going to do with all these buildings? How are they going to- Yeah, I see. Probably plummet in price. Oh, it's already. And there's going to be a huge opportunity. The question is, do you want to be the person to jump on that? I mean, we may be- And when is the bottom? Exactly. We may be in a time of just business operating different. I mean, yes, I don't think there's going to be like complete remote for everybody, but I do think that there's a lot of companies that thought they needed a storefront that are going to go away from that. And so with everything happening in that, and then you, let's say as an investor, we go, oh man, this building would normally cost us a million dollars is on sale for a half a million right now and we could lease it for X amount. Oh, this is great. Let's buy it and then it just sits. Because nobody's wanting to do that right now. You have that on top of the fear of increased crime in urban areas. So the reduced storefront businesses now no longer needing to be the hubs of work in business because more people work in virtually. We could be seeing the largest migration of people from urban areas to suburbs that we haven't seen since the 1960s where they really started to really build out suburbs. You're already starting to see it. I know that rent in San Francisco is going down like it's never had before. New York City, people are leaving these big cities going to suburbs and on top of it collapsing commercial real estate prices. This may be, we may see a huge migration of people out of the big cities. It's weird to try and predict because I mean, I think I've been wrong already trying to predict when we're gonna see this bit. We should have seen it, I feel like. We should already see like this crash happening. We're already heading into the back half of the year, right? And you've got, this is typically when you would see a decrease in real estate, you start to see it starting to plummet right now and you just don't see it. I mean, I'm on there daily looking at properties and it's, they're still bidding more. It's because the supply is artificially limited. They're not putting them on. You have a lot of foreclosures and stuff that's still happening. I guess, I don't know though, dude. It's just, it's weird. There's, I know that has some, what to do with it. So I don't disagree with you. Like there's, the banks are holding back on a bunch of these foreclosures. Also, I think there's a lot of opportunists with a lot of money who are coming in and buying cash. They're buying these properties cash, you know. But once that stops a little bit, we should see a decline. I don't know. The question, so that I agree with you, but here's the question. If we, if, if you agree that we're in this, this K market right now, right? Where the middle to low class are struggling more and more, losing jobs, unemployment's raising in that class. And, but then you have the other side, if the upper class is making more and more money, is that, is it going to slow down or is that just creating more opportunity for these people that are making more money to swoop up these properties? I don't know. We'll see. I know rent's gone down quite a bit in the Bay Area. I've been following that. San Jose rents are going down. San Francisco rents went way down, which I've never seen happen. Rent's always through the roof over there. Yeah. What did you say San Francisco? How much did they reduce on average? I think it was 9% or 10%. But I like my brother alone, he, he, his lease was up. And in order to keep them, they gave him like three free months and dropped his rent up whole bunch, which is insane over there. When he first moved over there, it was like a bidding war to get, to get an apartment. I feel like it peaked. It was the ultimate like inflation possible. Like it was so expensive to live there. Any kind of square footage was outrageous, the amount of price they're asking. No, it's still happening though. Like, so I could try to call the place this morning. I sent her over two places. I checked this place out. They're like kind of like these ranch home places. And I said, look and see what they, what they want, what all the rules, blah, blah, blah. She messaged me back just like 30 minutes ago. Both of them got offers for more for rent than what they're being offered at. That's weird. Do you think they're playing the game where they're trying to go low to get bids? That's what I think is happening. So what you're seeing and you're like, oh, shit, it's all lower. It's like, no, everyone that I've called just so you know, both for sale and for rent, you call them. Bidding wars, yeah. It might be the price range you're looking at because I'm wondering if the nice places aren't really getting hit and what they're looking at is an average. You know what I'm saying? No, you're right. Exactly. So what is happening, again, it goes back to this K market, right, that we're seeing the higher end is not being affected as much because there's still those people that are paying those, the lower end might. So if you're looking at San Jose rents and you're reading articles that are telling you that are going down, sure, maybe somebody who pays $2,500 to $3,000 a month rent is getting some relief. Wow, I just pulled up an article right now. There's several of them that say them. This is as of late August this year. So this is pretty recent. It says San Francisco rents are down 20% from their peak. That's a big drop. Yeah, okay, so now that's okay. Think about that. 20% down from their peak. Okay, well, we're already at the low time of the year when they're supposed to go down anyways. So if you did not find a renter by Labor Day weekend, everything starts to drop now anyway. So by what percent is that normal? Well, think about this way. Is 10% normally what they drop it out? So it's another 10%? San Francisco is an interesting market because for a while you weren't getting anything going down. It was like bid every time. But like, give you an example, $3,000 a month, one bedroom apartment, which is actually not a bad price in San Francisco, 20% drop in that $600. That's a big, that would be a big drop. So, I mean, they're losing people. They're believing like crazy. And I think we're seeing a migration because you know what's happening in the suburbs? Suburb areas, rents are, and some of them staying stable and property values are going up in some suburbs. Like for example, in the Tahoe area and Truckee area, people from San Francisco are going over. I have a buddy who has a condo. It's like a three bedroom condo. He got two offers, not one, two offers. Somebody offered him like $50,000 for three months. That's crazy. So it's probably like a wealthy tech guy or something, a girl or a couple who are like, we just want to go live in the woods for a few months. So here, we'll give you a bunch of money so we can get out of the city. But I mean, that's crazy when you see offers. Now, does he rent his place or is that just someone like cold calling? No, he has it on Airbnb. Okay, so he does short-term rentals normally and then somebody- No, he doesn't really does long-term so where people rent for a year or whatever, but he's got someone who's coming out so he put it on Airbnb just to see whatever. Yeah, then he gets hit with that. Two, two separate offers for just an insane amount of money. And I'm, we're starting, and I think last time I read in that area, property values have gone up like 10 or 15%. 23. Oh wow. Yeah, yeah, that's high. Wow, interesting. First question is from Sriracha32281. What are the best exercises to target inner and outer thighs for females that don't have to be done on a weight machine? Okay, so this, so here, this is an interesting one because especially when I was training in big gyms, these machines were super popular, right? Suzanne Summers was trying to get on this. Yeah, the Thighmaster, right? In there, the Abductor. Isn't it still the number one fitness tool? Of all time. By far, right? By far, I don't remember how much she sold. Maybe Doug can look it up, but it's in the insane amounts. And it was literally a spring you put between your legs that you squeezed. Brilliant. Now the reason why these were so popular is because of the myth of spot reduction, okay? So the myth, if spot reduction says that you can burn body fat from an area if you train that area. And because, especially the female market wanted their legs to look better and they wanted to be leaner in their inner and outer thighs, they attracted to these machines that trained the muscles of the inner outer thighs with the false belief that training those areas then would make my inner thighs leaner and outer thighs leaner. Oh wow, $100 million back then. That's a lot, dude. Yeah, $100 million of sales. So no, you can't spot reduce. If you burn body fat, your body burns it from wherever it wants. You typically follow your genetic pattern. So it's a systemic kind of fat loss. Now you can target muscles. And by targeting muscles, you can make them stronger and firmer. But here's the thing with inner thigh muscles and outer thigh muscles. Rarely do I train them to sculpt them. No. Because they're small muscles. It's not gonna, it's like using the time to do that. You're better off doing lunges or squats or hip thrusts. The only person you would consider personally, unless we're doing corrective stuff, the only person really I see doing that for is like a competitor who is like trying to shape their legs, like actually build. To an extreme level. Yeah, to an extreme, like trying to build their inner thighs. And that's the reason. But the question is always asked. Like I never get somebody like that. It's always somebody who wants to thin out their legs or lean down. And they're asking that question because they want to do exercises, thinking that that's gonna make their inner thighs look better. And the truth is, those are all like leg swings and hip adduction, abduction. Those things are tube walks. These are small exercises. You would be far better off doing step ups, lunges, squatting. Those types of movements are going to train all of the legs, burn more calories, build more muscle, speed up your metabolism. Those are gonna do way more bang for your buck than trying to find these exercises where you lay on the ground and you do these leg lifts or kick outs or do these exercises where you're isolating a smaller muscle of the legs. You're gonna be far better off training the big gross motor movements for your legs. So it's gonna burn more calories, burn more body fat. There's definitely functional benefit to training these muscles and especially like a lot of it resides in the frontal plane and stabilizing lateral forces. And so in terms of lunges, I just love those because it's a great way to train those muscles but in a functional way, you're actually gonna be moving side to side like that. And it's not just like an isolation thing where I'm trying to build and hypertrophy those muscles. So yeah, I mean, it's an overall thing though. If you want nice legs, you gotta train your entire body to respond that way. Cossack squats. Yeah, yeah, that's great. If you look for correctional exercise purposes, they're great. If I'm training someone. That's the exception to me, right? That's it, right? You have a hip imbalance, knees cave in or out and it's coming from the hips or you're unstable or you have hip pain and this may be one of the reasons why you have hip pain. Then you'll see me prescribing clam shells or leg swings or tube walking. You need to help your knee track better and other reasons for that. Not to build these muscles because they're small. They really don't build and I'd build more muscle there or sculpt more effectively with a barbell squat or a hip thrust or a lunge. So, okay, what are the best exercises to target these areas? Well, first off, without a machine. If it's for correctional purposes, tube walking is really good. Clam shells are really good. Side planks is a good stabilizing exercise for the outer thighs. You could do leg swings, which are really good. For the inner thighs, you could place things in between your knees and squeeze them while you do things like squats or hip thrust to activate those inner thighs. And then some of the best stuff that I feel to be the most functional that takes it a little step further. So, if you're done with correcting but you want to continue to work on those areas, do lateral movements. Lateral walking with dragging a sled or lateral lunges or even curtsy squats. You're going to do them. It's going to be much more effective than isolating these muscles. Next question is from Nicolette Kaila. What are your thoughts on TRX training? Is it really for everyone? So, TRX is a brand name for suspension trainers. It's kind of like clean axes for tissues or roller blades are for inline skates. So, suspension trainers, are they for everyone? Yes, they're one of the most versatile pieces of equipment that you can find anywhere because you can change the angle and the leverage to where I could train my grandmother on suspension trainers or I could train somebody as strong and as mobile as Justin and make it just as effective for both people because of the way it can change the angles. It's one of the best ways to do body weight exercises. You can build muscle on them. They're great for stability. You get a lot of core stability in almost everything you do with suspension trainers. If you're advanced and you're skeptical, try it. Try, for example, follow like map suspension. So, we put together a whole workout that's all geared around suspension trainers. Follow it, change the angles to suit your intensity and then come tell me that you didn't find tremendous muscle building and fitness value. The joint stability and mobility you get from this, I'm amazing. That's what I shared recently with my sister. I've just talked with her the other day of how it's going. She's like in love with it. I mean, she's got every one of our programs which works for the company. So, she's gone through everything that we have and she hasn't been so excited about a program as much as she's been excited about the suspension training. She always deals with inflammation, chronic pain, and she's always telling me after going through something like, what do I do for this? What do I do for that? I'm helping her out. She's like, I've never felt so good as I have going through the suspension program. And I think that just a lot of that has to do with it does challenge a lot of stability. It's just it's going to build that into the program without you going after it. And a lot of the movements, like for example, like doing a push-up on a suspension trainer allows you to go in this deeper range of motion because of the way your elbows will track and the instability of the strap. And so, that just makes people's shoulders feel amazing after doing it. And honestly, after talking to her, I started incorporating it more into my routine. I hadn't done it in a long time. And so, we have it both at the Tahoe house and in here now strapped up on the squat rack. And I probably do two or three exercises in every one of my routines. And it's been with a suspension trainer. Yeah, I love it because it's like, I mean, it basically combines that mobility and body weight exercises. And it's basically like a progression of if I'm just doing mobility drills. And a lot of times it's kind of hard because you don't really, you really have to pay attention to your angles. You have to be able to see yourself. You got to, you know, the direction of it, you know, could change. And the TRX sort of organizes all that for you. It takes you in a specific direction, uses all those gravitational forces and it provides that instability. So now you have to overcome that. And it's just, it's an easier way to really teach the body how to stabilize properly, properly build strength and stability around the joint. And it's a totally different stimulus than just lifting weights all the time. Dude, one of my new favorite arm building pumping supersets now is with suspension trainer. I go from curl. So obviously I stand at an angle. So I'm leaning away from the suspension trainer and I'm doing curls and my elbows are in position like you would find with like a preacher curl. And then immediately after that, I go into body weight skull crushers and the range of motion is phenomenal. And the pump I get is incredible. It's my new, it's one of my new favorite supersets for arms and it's done without any weights. Next question is from A. Andrew Reed. Every time I bulk, I feel like I inevitably put on too much body fat specifically around my midsection. No matter how slow or clean the bulk is, I always see midsection fat appear. What is the best way to combat this or at least keep it to a minimum? There's a couple things here. The person's saying no matter how slow or clean. Yeah, you got to read between the lines here. Yeah, right. So, you know, if you did it just right, you shouldn't put on a lot of body fat at all. But you also got to keep this in mind. In a bulk, you have a calorie surplus, which inevitably is going to increase naturally, probably sodium, probably carbohydrates, which is also going to increase your water retention. And a lot of times we notice that in the stomach area more than anywhere else. So, first you have to understand that that may be happening. But if you're actually taking your body fat test and you test it before the bulk and then you test it say six or 10 weeks or whatever later and you increase dramatically in body fat, then you're not going as slow as you think you are. You're adding way more calories than you need to. And I think that, and I know Sal will probably go this direction, is that talking about how little of calories you need to actually bulk and build. And there's, and I think this is perpetuated by the bodybuilding community because that's just how they've done it forever. And we see them and they're like, some of the best physiques out there. So we assume that they do it the best and they really don't. I mean, this was one of the things that I thought was really interesting when I got into competing is the way that competitors bulk and cut. They just go so extreme. And I think many of them don't realize how taxing that is on the body, how ridiculous that is with putting on that much body fat than trying to cut the stress that you put on the body, the actual muscle that you end up building. It's not very manageable. You don't see a big difference when you put on 20, 30 pounds and then you decided to cut for a show and then you end up netting one pound of muscle. Like that's ridiculous. That doesn't even make sense. You'd be far better off going really slow. So if you're testing your body fat and it's definitely going up, then you're not going as slow as you think you are. But if you're going based off how you look and you feel like you're thicker, you're fuller and you feel like you're putting on body fat, it also may be you're holding more water because you're increasing calories, sodium and carbohydrates. So when I hear this, no matter how slow I go, I gain body fat around my midsection, like what's going on. It sounds to me like you probably didn't track. Okay, you probably didn't know how many calories you're eating before and you didn't know what your macros were before and you didn't know after when you started bulking. So what may be a slow bulk to you, you may be totally miscalculating because you're not actually tracking. So whenever people are like, I don't know what's happening. My body is just gaining body fat or I don't know what's happening. I'm just losing weight and I don't know what's happening. You don't know what's happening because you don't know what's happening. You got to track and really see what's happening and what you're eating and what you're consuming and how much it is taking for you to gain body fat and then go below that because however slow you think you're bulking, it's obviously too much. Here's the other part of it is if you're not sending a good muscle building signal, if your workout is not effective for your body, then increasing calories will turn into body fat and not be turned into muscle. You still got to have an effective workout. That's the other part of it because I've done this with other clients where we look at their workouts, they'll bump their calories a little bit, they're not getting stronger, they're not building more muscle and it's the workout. Your workout's not effective. Gotta simulate those calories. Yeah, let's change your workout, send the right signal. By the way, when you send the right signal, your body wants to build muscle. It literally wants to and so increasing your calories a little bit, you'll notice more strength and more muscle and less body fat. Next question is from Rudy's One More Fitness. I'm having a son soon and my biggest concern is when he is school-aged and needs to have a packed lunch, I really don't want him eating this garbage school food, but I feel like it's hard to meal prep for a child. What have you done or planned to do? Yeah, so this is a kind of a tough one, mainly because you're not the only influence over your child, especially when they start to go to school. They will be comparing their food to other kids and what my friends are eating and then want to create a situation where I have friends like this where their parents were so ridiculous and strict as soon as the kids moved out of the house, they went ape shit in the opposite direction, they're all obese now. So a couple of things I'll say. Number one, there are fun snacks and meals that your kid won't feel totally weird pulling out and eating. Jerky, a lot of kids like that, cheese, fruit, nuts, those things are all pretty good. And then here's the other part of it. Children are pretty damn resilient, especially if they're active. And if they have a good breakfast and a good dinner, sometimes it's okay that lunch is a little bit more of the fun kind of stuff that they're going to eat with their friends. Like they might have some chicken nuggets or some pizza rolls or whatever, you know, once a day or every other day. Breakfast and lunch, if those are good. And here's in my family, majority of our calories usually come in dinner. That's our meal together and that's the one I have the most control over. So I know if they have a little bit here, a little bit there, but then we have a good dinner, I'm feeling okay. Yeah, that's where we get our peace of mind is really the dinner that we all share together. We can control pretty much what's going to be consumed there. To be honest, it's not that hard. I mean, if you want to prep ahead of time and you want to make sure your kids have the certain foods, you can pack them this. Obviously, they're going to go to school and they'll probably get stuff from their friends or whatever. They might not eat the whole thing, but I mean, that's out of your control. So you just got to keep basically focusing on what you can control and what you can kind of prep ahead of time and allow them to eat it. I would worry less about basically like how their friends are influencing them. We had to kind of relieve that because there's even some negotiations that had to happen on some days where there was like a pizza day where they got really excited for that. And so, okay, that meal is accounted for at school. They're going to eat this. And we just got to deal with that. We're going to make up a nice healthy meal when they get home for dinner. And this is also going to happen at Grandma and Grandpa's house and their friend's house. And when they go to stay overnight, and so it's just better prepare yourself now for the fact that you just, you can only influence based off how you eat and how all the normal ways that you have programmed to eat, whether or not that's going to last is up to the kid. I'm glad you said that, just because I really wanted to hear what you both had to say about this. Obviously, I don't have a child that's in school yet, but I do think about this, right? And the family, right? And that's a great example. Like, I don't think it's that much different than going over to Grandma and Grandpa's house or whatever, because it presents the same type of challenges, right? They're at somebody else's place where there's other food that's being eaten, everybody else. So the way that Katrina and I do it right now is we, when we are prepping our food, she's also prepping Max's food at the same time. So like last night, we did like a, Katrina does this bison and rice dish that we were like, and the only real difference is this. Right now we do like seasoning and all kinds of stuff, spices and things in our dishes where he eats more bland food right now. So she'll always separate like, you know, a few ounces of the bison and we have these little things that she, you know, Tupperwares them in and he's got his bison, his rice and then like this smashed up avocado and that's going to be like his meal for the next two or three days that's in the refrigerator. And if we take him over to his grandmother's house, we bring that for her. Like, here's his lunch. Here's what, here's what he's going to eat at this time. And like, and we just tell them, can I control everything that goes in his mouth? Probably not, nor am I going to. I'm not going to worry about it. But I feel like if, and then the same thing goes for when he goes out to school, like I'm not going to fight him if his friend lets him bite into his, you know, you know, with a lunchable cracker snack. I'm not going to freak out of him. It is what it is. But I'm going to prepare the same way that I prepare right now. Like he'll go to lunch. I mean, as far as I know, every school has a microwave for him to reheat his meal. If I give him what we had last night at dinner left over, which is how I eat all the time. And he sees that I eat like that all the time. I don't think it'll be that weird, especially if it tastes good. The taste good. He likes it. He had it at dinner the night before with us. And now he's got it in a glass bowl that he can reheat the next day at school. That's how I plan to try and control it. And when the days of pizza days come or a friend he wants, I don't think I'm going to be a Nazi over it. I think I'm going to allow him to do that intermittently. As long as I am feeding him as best I can at home, he's a majority that means his food is controlled by me. And then I'm going to send him to school with those same types of foods. And then when those things happen, when he eats it here and there, I don't think I'm really going to worry too much. What you don't want to do is you don't want to demonize food because you're going to create, you potentially could create this rebellious attitude around food. We talked earlier about you eating ice cream. Part of that you say is because when you were a kid, if the ice cream came, it was gone. So then when you grew up, you're like, I'm eating ice cream every single night. This is a pattern you could build in your kid if you make it super too strict and you demonize foods. So the way you teach imbalances, it's kind of not a big deal. And they have a little bit of this, a little bit of that, not a big deal. And when we prepare meals, it's just how we prepare it. It's a healthy food. You're also shaping his palate right now, right? Especially when they're really little. Yes. So that's the way I look at it. That's the crucial time. So here's like, so there's, you know, I talk about my two friends who have kids that are a year and a year and a half ahead of us. And something that Katrina and I have been adamant about with Max is we have not introduced any sweets, no cookies, no tea. Like, and I know this is a thing for parents and grandparents. They think it's so cute and funny to let a toddler lick an ice cream cone and then look at the face afterwards. I know. Because there's not a single kid that doesn't go, holy shit. You know, like literally they're, that you could see they get, they light up like a Christmas tree. And then what I see happening is I see my friends using that as reward to get their kids to do things they want them to do. Say they're being fussy at night. They don't want to do this or they don't want to put their pajamas on or what that. If you want that cookie after dinner, then you need to do this. And they start using these pleasure foods as a reward system. And they start training their kid before he even knows to ask for a cookie or ice cream. And then you wonder why it's such a struggle for you when they're two, three, four and five. Where right now, like I'm, while I'm controlling everything that goes in his mouth, literally, it just, that is an absolute no. Like I can resist the, oh, I want to see what my kid looks like when he bites into a cookie. I'm not going to do that. And I'm going to wait till he can ask me, which just probably means he's going to be three or four at the bare minimum. And then it's different. And then it's different. And then by that time, he's had three years of consistently eating these healthy foods. What will probably happen, and I've seen parents that are really good about this, is the kid thinks it's too sweet. Dude, I give my- He tries half of it and then he puts it away. I give my kids a soda. And yeah, ice cream. Yeah, I've done that where I'll give my kids a soda. Actually, not even a soda. One of those Izzy drinks, which is not even a soda. It's like less sugar and smaller. And I'll say, yeah, you can have one. And then my daughter will bring it to me halfway. I don't want any more. Just on her own. Right. Because we didn't give them a ton of sugar. No, it's- And you know, the palate, they start to develop the palate in utero. Yes. And then when the mom breast feeds. So based off- This is why it's so important for women that are pregnant right now to do your best. And I know the health of the baby matters most and getting calories. And I don't want to make any moms feel guilty that have weird cravings. I get all that stuff. But I mean, the conversation that Katrina and I had during that time is, you know, and she asked me like, you know, how would you handle it if you were pregnant? Right. So we play that game. And I said, you know, the way I look at it is like, when I was prepping for competing, like none of that was fun. Like I didn't enjoy eating these foods all the time, but I had a goal. I had this goal that I'm going to be the best version of myself. I don't think there's a time in my life that I could think that would be more important than getting ready to set the tone for my child. Like that's supersedes any stupid trophy or saying that I could work to it. So the way I would be competitive with myself, if I were to carry a baby of like, I got nine months, I'm going to discipline myself to be just... Sounds like such a dude. I know. I know, right? And I know there's women. You don't even know. I know there's women like so hard for a guy to have. But what I'm telling you is the conversation I had with Katrina, right? She asked me like, how would you mentally prepare yourself for going in? And I said, I would look at it the same way, it's even more important because it's my child. It continues the breastfeeding too. I watched a documentary on it and they said that they start to develop their palate a lot through breast milk, through what the mom will eat. Now, Jessica's been pretty good about this. She'll eat like a spoonful of fish eggs sometimes in the morning for the omega... I mean, it's fish eggs, you know? But hopefully my kid is born and eventually will like to eat fish. I know I hated it when I was a kid. Well, what I can tell you right now, and maybe I'm an anomaly or whatever, Max eats everything. Every single thing we put in front of him, he eats and he loves vegetables and he eats all the meats. It's like he eats everything that we give him and he's not been introduced to any sugar except for what comes from fruit. Like his diet has been that way and it hasn't been a fight or a struggle with us at all. And I think a lot of that has to do with Katrina was dialed all the way through pregnancy, all the way through breastfeeding. And then when we introduced foods, we introduced all these whole foods to him and that's how it's been since day one. Have you had him try a lemon yet? I don't think she's done a lemon. That's fun. If you want to see a reaction... Yeah, I don't think she's done a lemon. Give a little kid a lemon slice and just watch their faces. Yeah, I was actually eating... I gave him his first dab of salsa, right? And you saw his face get like that, right? Where he was like, whoa, that was way too spicy. He was sitting in my lap and Katrina made me a quesadilla and I was dipping it in salsa and he could tell he really wanted it. And she was like, don't let him have that! And I'm like, I just want to see his face when he takes a little bit of salsa, right? That's a good time. There's this video on YouTube of this little kid who he gets an onion because he thinks it's an apple. Oh, no. Did you see his video? And he bites into it and his eyes are like... But he keeps eating it. He keeps eating the side. He's trying different, but maybe it'll get better. Look, Mind Pump is recorded on video and audio. So if you're listening to the podcast but you'd like to watch it as well, check us out on YouTube. You can also find all of us on Instagram individually you can find Doug, the producer at Mind Pump Doug you can find Justin at Mind Pump Justin you can find me at Mind Pump Salon Adam at Mind Pump Adam me at Mind Pump me You know, talking about the hip extension you have to keep in mind as a trainer and a coach that when we're training clients that come in and say they want to build muscle they want to burn fat that we're also a big part of our responsibility is to help them with their posture work on longevity address the health and their joints and mobility like