 So let's call the meeting to order at 6.30 something. 36.40. OK. That's 6.40. Public comment? Adam, want to say anything? I'm looking. Thank you. OK. And then, yeah, let's fix this around a little. We heard a point the clerk, but let's at least introduce Jerry and the point her assuming people are amenable to doing that. And then she does need to be sworn in. But then we can invite the executive session as at least board and appointee. So, Ryan, you want to introduce them? I guess, Jerry, you can further introduce? Sure. Yeah, we've, how shall we say, been lucky enough to find a very willing and capable board member to replace Lisa Frost. So Jerry Huck has agreed to get involved with the board and be appointed through the remainder of the term to March and then roll through the election cycle. So Jerry Huck is hopefully going to be, again, have owns approval, the newest rock-spray representative on the board. And nice to meet you all. I use my brief introduction. So I work in IT, mostly IT security, and change management. So it might be a good fit, I guess. And yeah, I work with global teams. So I'm usually on California time. That's why I had to rush out today. So yeah, that's it. If you have any questions, please ask. I've been in Roxbury for eight years. I have a question. Sure. Why do you want to be on the board? Well, so here's an interesting tidbit. When I was a child, I was a very shy child. And my classmate, when we were seniors, he said he was a disabled person, the only one in our class. And he said, Jerry, they're not going to let me graduate. They're not going to let me attend. And he was very upset about it. And so I gathered all my strength and I went to the school board. And I got him involved. I mean, I got him to be able to walk and participate in the ceremony. So I think you have a lot of influence. And I think it's a good way to be involved in the community. So that's it. Well, we thank you. Yeah, thank you. Taking that sleep. Did we have any other applicants? No. We're not expecting anybody else to run. How should we say? The Inconvention. Of course, in March, there's no guarantees that there might be. Oh, yes. Absolutely. Just to say that out loud. Say that again. That there's no guarantees she'll be the only person running for this seat in March. Yeah, and so I'll get you an email, the VVSA, Vermont School Board, VSBO, the Vermont School Board's Association has kind of a packet for new members. I'll send you that. We have discussed having a board mentor just to be able to speed. If anybody wants to volunteer now, or I can crowd people later, but I think it would be a pretty light lift. But to talk about it for new board members, I think it would be great just to give you kind of a general introduction, because you'll probably feel like you've got a bit of a learning curve. I don't think it's a very steep learning curve, but certainly my first few meetings, I was a little lost. I did read through several of the past minutes. So I feel like I have a little bit of a lay of the land. I mean, I'm sure it's very superficial. We got you an NPSVT email today. So you can log into Google through that. So it's just email and it's jerryhuck at npsvt.org. OK. I think I should use a vote. Can I make a motion to approve or appoint when Jerry Huck is the next Roxbury representative? Second. All the better. Aye. Aye. Any opposed? Congratulations. And do you need to get, who's where is that in Roxbury? Is it the town town camp your legacy? So it is. You can swing with the town office sometime. And I expect Jim or LeBue will let her know that he'll be coming in. It's just a form. We have to sign off. Oh, OK. Just a formality. And I know it must be. Although it means you can't vote tonight. Right. So it's not entirely a formality, but I don't think we're voting on anything anyway. No. Except the consent agenda. Yeah. And then just note the Ken Jones session will be moved to the 28th. OK, great. Next is executive session exit interview with Mike McCrath. So you have the agenda appointing a clerk. Did you approve consent agenda? No, I think we accept the consent agenda as granted. The second? Oh, second. All those in favor? Aye. Aye. Any opposed? OK, now the clerk. Thanks for inviting me to consent agenda. That's important. So we are, I forget whether we're required to have a clerk or not. We are. I think we are. Yes. I know we had that discussion last time. Lisa was our clerk previously. It is a relatively light lift, especially because we have someone here taking notes. Do you have any interest in anyone volunteering to be a clerk, the clerk? I can do it. You sure? Great. Awesome. She's saying, well done. Yes, thank you. You are our favorite. Our new favorite board member. She has to be sworn in first before she can take that over though, I think. Yes. That's true. So that's a commission committee. Yes, she was. She was on my committee. Let's put Mike McCrath on the 20th, about 30. And we also set goals on the project. So follow up with you, Sharon. Yeah. OK. Because I don't think we have a point. That committee is all so massive though. You know, it actually is unwieldy right now. Let me look at the construction and the structure of it. OK. You may or not be stuck with that. I wouldn't be sure if that was a big hole or not. Yeah. I don't know if she was here. I don't know whether or not to. Policy might need more people. Yeah. Yeah. I really have a discussion. Well, I'll raise it here. I don't know if we could do it in the 14th. I'm going to have a better turn up. We may need a person on the policy committee because I'm not sure Steve may step off that. And we also need someone to be on the language immersion study committee as a board member. Are you open to board members who are opposed to language immersion? Yes. I think that voice would be very important on that committee. Yeah. If you want to do it, Michelle, that would be great. What's the time commitment like at this? I'm sure. I don't know if that's my initial answer to that. It's one meeting a month. But I don't want you to quote me on that because I'm not sure because he hasn't allowed me to be on it. OK. You still haven't been about that other committee. Yes. Andrew and I need to do lunch at some point. Yeah. So I can get that information for you from Mike. Mike Nalsworth. Very much, yeah. Yeah. OK. Let's do it right now. I'm going to get the control there on some different things. So why don't we do those two appointments next? If Earth can make contact to Steve, I'll see if he wants us to try to replace him on the policy committee. My guess is probably yes. I got that indication the last time we met. And Michelle, if you want to do the, if you're sure you want to do it, you could probably appoint now. But if you want to wait for Libby to get some more information from Mike about what you're jumping into. More information would be good. Also because it goes for the whole year, right? And my term is up in March. Right. But Mike Berry said when he presented to us that he wasn't going to put up for a mandate. But he said right now the plan, and it was also, I think, to start in June. So I don't know if that happened. So it was originally to end in December. So now it might be to end in January. I don't know if that's still the plan. Well, the idea is that we need budgetary ask. We know we're going for the report, and we need budgetary ask. So we have to have it done by December, May, June, November, right? If we were to do it for next year. OK. Maybe even earlier. So I can probably do that. But I do want to just check with Mike what the commitment is. OK. Perfect. So let's make those appointments at the next meeting. I think it should be pretty quick, especially if we are going to have volunteers. I think that just leaves the board training piece. Can I ask quick? I know we're going to talk about, or Ken Jones is going to visit us in August. Yeah, in the 20th. But what was the plan with that? What should I expect? I can get a little more information. It's part of the larger community initiative where things as popular as code. Examining how they use energy and transportation needs. And my understanding is that his presentation is going to involve the fact that the school district's a pretty major piece of the community. And getting some sort of school involvement in that is important. OK. And he's in what capacity now? He's on the energy committee, the Molecular Energy Committee. The city? Yeah, he's also with a former member. And is he with what's that group like? I don't know. He's not in Sustainable Molecular. He's not in Sustainable Molecular? I don't think so. Their director is Dan Jones. Yes. They're very close though. They're very close and they spend a lot of time together. Yes, they do. But I said he's on the board, but I couldn't be wrong. And Dan was the chair of the energy committee when I first joined. And then it switched part of the way through. I don't know if Dan's still on the energy committee. Anyways, Ken wants to talk about energy. Energy, yeah. Yeah, that's helpful, because I really wasn't sure it was coming down the road to that one. Since we have time to prepare, now we know. So talk before we try that. So part of your all expectations and goals is to have trainings. I actually was reading through the equity policy just today, because I'm never at first meeting of the equity team coming up soon. So I was just reading through the policy for that meeting. And part of that is annual board training around equity. So check that box right now. So that just made us think about what other board trainings are you looking for. It's very helpful when the board says to nearly find trainings on that bullying harassment was good for us. And the equity was good. And the communication piece was good. So did we have the training? We talked about it. We did the federal in the beginning of the year, do you remember? It was a little while ago. It was very beginning. Yeah, very beginning. She came, I always sat in the crown room. She went to the front of the meeting, and I had handouts. It was informative. Sorry, Mr. Is that going to go on? Did you guys have any ideas in mind? We didn't really talk about it. We talked about it. Yeah. Are there any things? Oh, restorative justice. Yeah, I am. That's what we need training for. We've discussed that previously, because it keeps coming up as something that we really and we know the administrators really want the district to do restorative justice. And the board is like, sounds good, but we don't know what it really entails. So it would be information on restorative justice, restorative practices. Yes, how it works in school, projects. I was going to say examples of the invitation of the districts. Right, what our limitations would be as well. Whose limitations? And the board's directive on that as well. Where are our boundaries would be as a board? Well, it's not something that the district really involves, but we need to support it. Because here's the thing, if we start having restorative practices in school as helping kids through things and then parents aren't happy with how it goes and they come and complain to us, we need to make sure that we really know and are prepared to support the staff in getting out properly. Yeah, I mean, I think there's kind of two buckets in what I think about things we should put on the agenda. There's actual trainings around things the board. Like board business. Board business. I think the boards are actually. How we do our job. Yeah, how we do our job. And I think some of those can be district-wide as well, where the board has an active role. And then I think it would be good to have some presentations on the initiatives that the district is doing, where we're supporting from a budgetary standpoint, or state managed. We have to do it. We're useful for us to, one, understand the issue better. And then to understand what the district specifically is doing so we can be better ambassadors of community and explain it when problems rise up. And I think we're sort of just in the second book. And I could see the other things like community-based learning and flexible pathways. Yeah, that'd be great. Actually, there might be more. Yeah, flexible pathways and community-based. Yeah. Well, that. And I wonder if you can front-load those. Like a report from Matt and Sarah on how that's going. That would also be nice to have a public moment for them as well, because it's been such a successful. For a certain segment of our population. Yeah, OK, great. A public celebration of how that's. Or not just about, but that might be better instead of a training to have as a board topic at one of our meetings. Yeah, it's the learning topic, learning focus. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's what I was thinking. On the restorative justice thing, I feel like if parents complained to me that they weren't happy with how a restorative justice process went for their kid, I don't know enough about it to know whether we did it right or not. And you might not know that after this training either, but you might have a better idea of what success looks like. I think something else that can be really helpful is where restorative justice and state policy can conflict with each other, where it's sometimes. HHB. Yeah, I don't know that that's. I think that can be really helpful. Well, it's a budget item too, because we had the acknowledgement PAM came and made the as she did that was not the necessarily shiny moment for anyone. And getting, I think, some education on some initiatives where there are going to be some investment asks would be helpful. So when someone comes in and says, well, we need more investment in restorative justice for whatever purpose, we're clued into why that is and what that's part of. Is the middle school on a path to get the stuff that they need to respond to the questions that they have built. They're building the space. And they're working with the current stuff that they have. Maybe as far as being able to present to us and describe to us what the problem is and what the need is. I mean, I think if they came back with a clearer description of the issue, that would be helpful. So can we go back to training needs? Yeah, I want to get back into that. Yeah, keep us focused. I mean, a financial training would be good. I don't feel like I personally need it, but I think that in general, for the rest of the year. I'm sorry. I work just in negotiations training in general. Yeah, that may be helpful. Is that what you're thinking, or more like the state funding system? I think there's a lot of. Come to our system. Or our training system we want. Budgeting. Well, you know what could be helpful for us is we are shifting to this common chart of accounts and understanding, and it could be something that I don't know how Grant feels about, because he's already stretched then. But it could be helpful for us to better understand what that entails. That wasn't exactly what I was thinking. I was thinking basics of budgeting. Yeah, how to read the P&L and then how to cheat. I mean, I think it's always good to continue to have diverse equity and inclusion training. Yeah, I think that's always helpful, too. Well, our equity policy requires an annual one of those. I had a conversation a few weeks ago with Mara Iverson from Mount Wright, Vermont, and in regards to the district's transgender gender neutral policy. And it was very helpful for me to be more reversed and have a better sense for those topics. On the financial side, too, I think it could be helpful, especially because it's likely that there's going to be a recession in the next several years to look at what a healthy reserve looks like, what type of practices we can or should be or are employing to weather that type of situation. It's true. Something that would be a little more targeted to be the best sophisticated board, I mean. I think Grant has done a good job to evening out because before our budget would go shoo shoo. He's doing it. He's great. If you looked at our budget from 2000 to 2010, there were these big... Jobs. ...pays and valleys, yeah, because there was some federal funding after a particular recession. We hired 15 new teachers. Oh, but then there was another recession. So we got 13 of them. 13 of them. Yeah, he's doing a really good job. I mean, maybe he could do a one-on-one kind of financial literacy for the district financial literacy. And do we need any other communications training? We always need to. I think communications are diverse. I just think that you can never learn how to do that well enough. Yeah. I'm really concerned with that community connection. How do we do that? Totally. Yeah, so our office is running these statewide trainings three of them a year. It's a newer thing for us. But we've had a communication session at each one. And there was this woman from Champlain College. She's a professor who I thought was amazing. She can present on all different topics. We could potentially reach out to her. And I know she's, Susan, who presented to us is actually presenting. She's actually running a session at our next training in September on translating financial literacy to the general public. And we're opening it up to municipal and school officials. But she is friends with this professor at Champlain College and said that she's seen her do all sorts of communications training, isn't it? What? So I don't know. That could be an option. I could pass along her contact info. She did it for free for us. Yeah. I don't know if she'll always do that. And when I was serious about something on other negotiations or labor relations, I think it would be good to have someone come in. I mean, it could be Pietro and just really explain what our contract does, compare it to other contracts in the state. That's our contract. I know. I actually think that would be great for him to do. Yeah. I always joke around about, I always joke around with them about how much are you getting paid? But I actually think that would be a great lesson. It's time. It's time and our money. Oh, how much? It's like, what, like four. Well, that kind of stuff is bit pays for. Yeah. Training done by Pietro or Heather, or lawyers visit it pays for. We don't pay for that. Who pays what? Oh, nice. That's awesome. Because it keeps us, it lowers our liability. You know, our. We know the contracts. I think that would actually be phenomenal. I actually think that would be phenomenal heading in the fall, because we're going to start off negotiations again. And it would be. But there's some things we want to start, you know. Yes. And then we're going to be negotiating a longer contract this next time around. Believe it or not though, what's the one where I was talking about the evaluation provision of our contract and how weak and rigid it is. But it actually was a fairly recent, huge win just to get it in there. Yeah. Because it was. Well. And there's some other things. It was a huge process. Was it a recent evaluation? Yeah. Yeah. It was recent? Yes. Oh. Well, I think there's some other things we want to think about too about, you know, how the contract might mesh with, you know, more, you know, a more flexible system where we've got more personalized plans. We've got, you know, less structured days for students, but still pretty structured days for teachers. And, I think this would be really valuable. Yeah. Like we're talking, I think all of these trainings would be valuable, but I think that one, in terms of nearer term, like I'm picking fall, like September or October. I think we'd all benefit from it. Yeah. Because we're gonna be making a lot of decisions that I have a feeling this year on contract items. What a crew we are. Everybody's excited about it. I think if that teacher's coming, maybe they want us to negotiate. Just watch you. You are the comic writer. He's the show. He is. We should all play better and more. That's a good list. Yeah. I think that's, I was actually just thinking, as I drove up here, I kind of admired that it could be the, what's that, long pitch dark. Yeah. Wait, wait. Oh, that's it. Becky and I noticed the store for the first time. Oh, yeah. Because we didn't know there was a store there, because it's always dark when we go. Yes. Well, before you leave, everyone peek into the bathrooms. Well, they're not completely ready for business. They are relatively done, so peek in there. Did you? Yeah, I was, I'm not supposed to. I don't know. You're not supposed to. You're not supposed to. You're not supposed to. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's funny. To the left now. To the right now. Motion to adjourn? Motion to adjourn. Second. Second? Second. Yeah, it was you, Jerry. Thank you for.