 Plastic crept into our life very smoothly and slowly. In 1950, there was a very low production of plastic worldwide, it was a million tons. And then it started slowly until 56, it was 2 million. And then today it has sharply risen to 460 million tons produced per year. Per year. What's always been missing from 20 years ago was giving life to the narrative, saying waste prevention and undertaking actions conducive to prevent the waste. Instead, we are fully concentrated on recycling. Recycling is meant to suggest to us consumers and citizens that there is a solution to a problem. And many people believe that. They put something in a bin and then they all of a sudden have this impulse of a positive feeling, oh God, I have recycled it. It's not so bad after all. But they have got no idea what this recycling means and what happens with the product they have just thrown in the bin. The reality teaches us something totally different. Recycling is a production process. It's a highly complex process that starts with putting up the bin, emptying the bin, collecting the bin, separating the material. You have a highly complex industrial process which is in principle a production process and which is on all the steps connected to CO2 emissions. The waste you get is already degraded and just melting the stuff and making new product does not work with plastic. And you're already out of the circle because you have to add something. You have to add new chemicals, additives, stabilizers, softeners, or what have you. And then you get a kind of new plastic. However, with an inferior quality. Yeah, the green deal in the subtext is called by the commission itself the growth strategy for Europe. Because there is the basic idea that with better technology we could curb the problems. We could mitigate the problems. We could be master of the problems and the problems would decrease. The green deal not only wants to be a growth strategy it wants to mitigate CO2 emissions. We cannot grow and at the same time reduce CO2 emissions. That is a contradiction in itself and in that sense the green deal has put questions on the table but not made a single effort to give an answer to the questions. The focus should clearly go on making plastic a valuable material. The reason why we have so much plastic is the very reason that plastic is linked to the petrochemical industry. That costs nearly nothing and then we use it simply for everything. The only feasible and most convincing way to achieve advances in reducing non-necessary plastic would be the price. Not a quota. We're not achieving any recycling quota anywhere because we simply cannot control it. I always said what we really need is producer responsibility not for waste. That's what producer responsibility is. We need producer responsibility for the quality of the products. We have PROs. We have producer responsibility schemes that are linked to certain payments but these are far too incremental, far too little to make a real change. The damage is paid by you and me and by everyone living on this planet.