 We are at the DC dark net doing the arts and hacks badges and there's just stuff everywhere. And I wanted to catch up with one of the teams working in the dark net challenges and hear like how it's been going. Frustrating, but fun. Well, it's been the frustrating part of the badge. Well, when you get all the connections laid down and then it doesn't turn on and there's tape everywhere. So then you've got to find where. So you've got to backtrack everything. And if I pull off this tape, I'm going to need to redo the whole things. I'm kind of questioning my life decisions right now. It's funny because I think when I heard about this badge, you're like, oh yeah, this is going to be, it's going to be simple. And it's like, yeah, it's a piece of paper and whatnot. But I think what's so funny about this is like, it's actually a complicated and difficult task. Even though like, because this is the 2.0, this is the blinking one. So the original one was a lot of fun, still frustrating, but a lot of fun to do. But it's a whole nother level once you start getting to making a blink. Oh my goodness. You need to come on over here and get up close of this one, which has googly eyes on it. Like legitimately there's just something lovely about googly eyes and DEF CON. Have you been doing the online challenges as well? Yeah. You want to tell us a little bit about those? You can hold onto the mic. So I've done some of the online challenges. I haven't done too many. I did a little bit of the coding challenges because they have a good variety on there. So some of the online coding and then actually here, there's some that you have to go and use a phone to make the call to go and get the key answer for it. So you guys, your team has been doing dark net for a long time. What actually keeps you coming back to dark net? The people, the friend. The people? Yeah. The family at this point. Hey, let me get that. What was that? The family at this point. Yeah. It's just like, that's one of the things I think that dark net captures is that community. Feathers, do you have something to say? No. Maybe. Our quiet one. No, it's been a fantastic contest. Can you, so you have the hardware challenges. Have you gone through all the different layers of the badges? Of these? No. So we're only on the second. You're not on the mic. So we're only on the second stage of the badges. So we know that there's three. So we were hoping to get the second one working, at least one of us getting it working. We've gotten close. We've gotten lights to come on, but all of our so far I've had like a bad circuit part somewhere. So. Do you know, have you seen the level three badge? Well, yeah, gula mea, so it's the 3D one. That's a 3D one. Yeah, and then there's some actual soldering involved, which we know to do the soldering part. That might actually be easy for us. We've got to get this one done first. We're like, dang it, we could probably actually do three. Have you ever done soldering like this previously? Like this? No, no, not at all. Never. I feel like all the conventional things that you would typically do with a badge. Okay, I put too much solder on it. Okay, grab the soldering ribbon, desolder it, or grab the solder sucker. Like you can't really do that with this. How do you like desolder this? Or can you? You pull off the regular Scotch tape you have on there and then you move, try and wiggle stuff down. Or the problem that we were all facing yesterday that we solved, we solved with just adding more tape. Just adding more tape. Just adding more tape and like getting it to stay. Just stay. These are hilarious. I love the googly eye one. Thanks for just sharing what you've been working on about DC Darknut. As always, thank you always for playing DC Darknut. Of course. Thank you for watching and hack on.