 My wife and I, we say this all the time, you know, we have a counselor, so we, we big on marriage, even though I'm a pastor and, and you know, there's, you know, these different things that you hear about, you know, the after this won't be this, and it's whatever God called me to do. That's what I'm going to do. I'm following God, but because I always say it is, I don't want to stow, I mean, a mega church in a stowfront marriage. And I've seen that so in the church where people so want to just build a manager, you know, they, but that's, that's flesh. Yeah. You don't want to be a superstar, but they ain't no star but Jesus. All right. Yeah, we on boss talk one-on-one. One-on-one. Yeah, we gon' talk. I tell people all the time, it's a building. The word Ecclesia means to be called out from among them. That's right. We, we have to teach people to understand that God resides in them, but you do not forsake the semblance of yourself. So I get that point. You know what I mean? We want to make sure, like I told Reverend Rodney Taylor, shout out to Reverend Rodney. He'd say, man, why don't you come up here and, man, you could come up here and teach that in my place. Man, in the church, I think he in Oaklea or somewhere. I was going to tell you something, man, why don't you bring all those guys here? I'll shut the stow down and then all of them can come in here and we could just talk about God. Cause I want to take them out to the comfort zone. I want to show them that God's everywhere because Jesus, when he, he say, man, the harvest is plentiful, the labor is a few. I think we need to try to educate our people more and I think COVID shook people out of their comfort zone because they had to get out here and deal with it on their own. That's right. It was a lot of people that they had to, even me and you, you had to step and stare at each other for a minute, like we got to deal with these kids and family and our issues now. My wife and I, we say this all the time, you know, we have a counselor said we, we big on marriage, even though I'm a pastor and you know, there's, you know, these different things that you hear about, you know, the after this won't be this, it's whatever God called me to do. That's what I'm going to do. I'm following God, but because I always say this, I don't want to stow, I mean, a mega church and a stowfront marriage. Okay. And I've seen that so in the church where people so want to just build a management, you know, they, but that's, that's flesh. Yeah. You don't want to be a super star, but I ain't no star but Jesus. All right. And so, and they leave their family behind. And that's one thing I said, I'll never do because that's my first ministry before I do anything else. That's my first. So my wife and I, we, we started a counseling center and now, you know, I'm certified, even though it comes with the church, I've been doing, you know, counseling, you know, there'd be my members or whatsoever, but we took it to another level where I get certified. Now I certify people that want to empower other couples and get their certification. And now my wife, like I said, she's getting a master's right now. She's already got a bachelor's of Christian counseling. She got more degrees than at the moment. But that's what it takes. Because I always tell people that every day struggle, we are all human beings and no matter what and no matter how someone's relationship or someone looked perfect from the outside, whether they be a pastor or just be a great couple that's been together forever. And they're like, oh my God, it looks so in love. They don't realize that you're going to have your ups and downs no matter who you are. And it's an everyday struggle because the devil is going to attack you every single day. And even those mega preachers that have a big, you know, and have the storefront marriages, they started out not like that, but they graduated into that because the everyday struggle defeated them instead of them trying to defeat that every single day. So that's really what it is. That's good stuff. And COVID, like you said, COVID, it exposed a lot of things. It did. Right now, I mean, our business have went up. And I've been talking about the church right now, but I'm talking about the marriages and our counseling. I mean, we get calls every day because now people are trying to see who they really are when they got married. You know, they haven't been at home for like about a year now they're working from home and now they got to face each other and the kids and all that other stuff. You got to have a personal relationship. You got to be deeply rooted. The one thing I like about you is the fact that you say you all are counseling and I know that you all love God. And so many people counsel but they don't know God. And I try to tell people all the time God is your counselor when you get caught up in the wrong situation because if a counselor don't believe and he don't understand God, you know what I mean? No, I don't think I want to be counsel about you. I'm being real, but it's a lot of them out here. People are telling everybody about mental illness and they want to tell everybody you got to get counseling and they don't put God in it. And I can't play with that when it comes to what God has brought me through. So when I see you and you're talking about and she'll tell you how I am. If you come on here talking about your counselor, you go to a counselor. Who do we believe in? Because I won't believe her. I won't get out with just anybody talking to me and putting things in my spirit. Yeah, you got to be very, very careful and have some discernment. And we've just been blessed where people have been calling all over DFW. And right now, like I said, my wife and I, we've been doing it for a couple of years now. And so when they call, they're like, you know, we're really just like your spirit. And everyone that had said that, you know, we saved their marriage. But God said, we just help them. My wife and I said, we always tell them, we're just the coaches. Y'all the players, y'all in the game. We just cheering y'all on the sideline and trying to navigate and guide y'all. You're just the vessel that God uses. Amen. But it's so crazy the way how, yes, pandemic has affected a lot of people because it had to slow everybody down. This world is designed, not by God, to go so fast. Everybody's moving so fast that they forget about the most important things, which is the family, the us time, building relationships, having, you know, because at the end of the day, if you lose your job or you, what do you have? People are so, I'm going to school, I'm going to work, I'm doing this and doing it and not, and by the time you turn around, your kids are grown. And I've always said, I didn't realize these things till I lost my dad. Because when I lost my dad, I started to think about what is it about him that I remember. And I was blessed to always, I was a tomboy. So I went hunting with him, fishing with him, all of that, my brothers didn't. But I was the one who wanted to do everything with him and I remember all of these things that I did with him. And so I started thinking about, okay, I want my kids to think of me that way. Think of us that way to be able to say, oh, we did this together, we did that together, because we spent that time. But, you know, we're raised here in the States to say, okay, create a good life for your kids. Work, work, work, make all this money so that you can have some relief for them. That's monetary stuff. At the end of the day, they can lose all of that when you die. The thing you said that was important was it's designed not by God. So that's the part was what you got to get. You got to understand, I always say you got to understand the difference between the spirit of truth and the spirit of error. If you don't understand how to discern that, then you can get lost quickly in the sauce. Because a lot of people, they get lost in error because there's an erotic spirit out there that teaches people the wrong way, that project God the wrong way. And the Bible says for such a false apostles, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel for Satan himself is changing to an angel of light. Therefore, no great thing if his ministers be transformed also. So we know that this stuff is happening. We know that people are put in places to try to take away from the things that God would have us to do. So we have to be focused enough to understand the spirit of truth. If we don't have that, then we're not connected. Even if you end the word, you can be misled. When you look at Romans chapter 10, he said they had a zeal for God, but not according to the knowledge. You see what I'm saying? You can have a zeal for God and be really thinking you're doing something the right way for God and totally be off base. Solomon said in Proverbs it's called ignorant zeal. See? Some zeals, it's good, but you gotta know how to... Yeah, these people thought they was really connected to God, and they wasn't. You know, you're growing up, whether in the church or in the building, and you raise a certain way and you have that love for God because that's what they placed in you. Mama told you about it. But you never got it for yourself. But mama told you about it. Right, but as a kid, I'm only talking about me personally, I was not sitting down studying and getting a revelation with God through his word. I was just going to church, you know, bits and pieces here and there, until you can pick up that book for yourself and study it and really realize what God is saying to you and what he was saying to them, whether it be Paul was saying to the Ephesians, to the Colossians, and then try to relate it to today's society, to your life, then you're not going to really have the knowledge. You're going to have the zeal because you know what's wrong from right, what's good and bad. You're not going to have the zeal for God, but you won't have the knowledge to back up your everyday life. And that's a bad thing because the Bible says my people are destroyed for the lack of knowledge. That's not a good thing. That's a bad thing because at the end of the day you can be destroyed for not knowing who you are and your Lord and Savior. It's important. If your life depended on it, if you knew you weren't going to have the knowledge, it's not tangible, but spiritual. It confuses them. And people don't realize there is a spiritual side. And what you feed the most is what's going to show. Exactly. So you're just feeding your flesh. That's all you're doing. So when things like this, a pandemic comes, you're all out of balance and everything. And when you are feeding your spirit and you know that God said these things, these signs and things are going to come, then you don't have not given us the spirit of fear. Right. Exactly. You're going to have fear because we're human. Even Jesus, when he was at the garden to get sent to me, because he was walking in human flesh as well as he was 100% God, 100% man, he said, he fear came over. Alright. Because when he said, Lord, let this cup be passed, that was fear talking. But then he transferred his fear to faith. Because he said nevertheless, not in my will, but in that way. So when we as believers sometimes fear will come in, but just for that second, you got to learn how to transfer that into faith.