 We have with us Mr. Mayank Gupta, CFO, Kar Dekho Group. Mayank, thank you so much for talking to Entrepreneur today. Thanks for having us. Mayank, you've seen the journey of Kar Dekho from a startup to a unicorn and now the company might be all set for an IPO. So, I mean, and these days everyone is talking about governance, everyone is talking about having a CFO in place, so what kind of role you have played in the journey of Kar Dekho? So, I've been with the group for three years and you know, if I summarize my role are two things. One, getting a right business model, so getting profitable and start measuring return on capital and secondly, building a strong governance in place. So, I've spent a lot of time to shape the governance. The group was already very, very highly governed and compliant group, but I've applied a lot of my best practices from my earlier companies. I was with a large multinational for 15 years and applied global MNC's best practices to Indian ecosystem and today very proud to say we will be among the best governed company in the startup ecosystem in India today. So, any advice you would give to startups around corporate governance? So, I would say one, start early, make it as part of your DNA, it's not somebody else's job, it should start from founder and the top management itself. Number one, number two, keep it simple, lay out simple tools of measuring and managing your governance and follow it in spirit. If there are loopholes or gaps, probably talk to the government, provide some advocacy, try to simplify laws versus taking shortcuts. So my recommendation would be keep it simple and follow the rule of the government and pay applicable taxes whatever due to government. So, at what stage a startup should think about linking in a CFO? So I would say any startup which starting should have a finance DNA from the beginning, it should not wait because you know the moment you are managing money, maybe pre-revenue may be too early but the day you have revenue have some finance domain or any DNA, it could be a co-founder, it could be a small finance guy or it could be an outsourced. A typical senior CFO should start to come from series beyond words. So maybe a two to three hundred million dollar valuation range and upward should have ideally a full-fledged CFO of good pedigree is what I would recommend but pie to that at least DNA around FPNA, business finance should definitely be applied to solve your genetic domains, profitability, measuring return on capital and so forth. I also believe that you are also looking after the fund which Karthik Ho group operates so can you tell us more about that? Okay, so we do have a Gena vision fund which is basically to help you know invest in upcoming startups and help to incubate them and they are largely in space which is synergistic to us so we want to spread to the ecosystem. We are always on a lookout of new startups, we have made one small investment so far and really looking to add several more, events like this which is startup Mahakum help us explore a lot of new startups and you know we are really looking forward for any startup which is taking country forward which is backed by technology and trying to build in the solid business way which is profitable and genetic momex focus we would love to you know evaluate those startups and again in the automobile space only. So look as a group we started in automobile but today we are like spread in a lot of other areas so we do have a fintech arm called rupee, we do have an insurance brokerage arm called insurance echo, we do have a tech arm called college echo so like that we have now spread across a lot of segments so anything which is synergistic to all these segments we are looking forward to it and of course anything deep tech anything artificial intelligence and ML is also of you know deep interest to us all right thank you so much for talking to us today thanks for having me