 Okay, why don't we just pray that we'll start, right? Let's pray, and we'll go pray. I just want to read from, excuse me, Probs chapter 3, Probs chapter 3 and verse 1. It says, My son, do not forget My law, but let your heart keep My commands. For length of days and long life and peace, they will add to you. Do not mercy and truth forsake you, bind them around your neck, write them on the tablet of your heart, and so find favor and high esteem in the sight of God and man. So it starts with the Lord saying, don't forget, in other words, he's saying, remember My law. He says, let your heart keep My commands. Let your heart keep My commands. That means the commands that he's giving, the instruction that he's giving, the instructions of the Lord, the Word of God. So he's saying that, let your heart keep it. Let it not be just something in the mind, but let it be from the innermost being. So I was thinking, the Word of God, the instructions of God, and the way we look at it, and the way we keep it, the way we obey, does it change from place to place? Does it change before us? Here we are in Bible college, maybe doing this course, and therefore we need to look into the Word, we study, etc. But if you are out of this, if you are out of this place, if you are going somewhere, maybe if you are not in this country or some other country, some other city, how will you keep the Word of God? How will you keep the Word of God in this sense? Will you obey the Word with the same intensity, with the same passion? Will you treat the Word of God with the same respect and honour? Or will that change? The writer of this book says, let your heart keep my commands, keep meaning, protect, obey, follow through, let your heart, from your heart you do it, not because somebody is watching, not because somebody told me and if I don't do this, then they are going to punish me, not because of all that, but from within you make a decision and you keep my commands. We are looking at Proverbs 3 verse 1, let your heart keep my commands and then it's talking about what will happen, what will be the overflow of that. It says length of days, long life, peace, they will add to you and then he talks about mercy and truth and let that also be there and you will find favour with God and you will have favour with man. So this is the overflow of that, this is the overflow of that, but it all starts from the place of our heart keeping the commandments of God. So just ask yourself, if I go from here, once I finish this course, if I go back or maybe some of you might be involved in ministry, you may not be involved in ministry, in the sense full-time ministry also, will your heart still keep the commands of God? Will your heart still, that's the question we need to ask, will I still keep the word of God from my heart, no matter where I am, no matter how old I am, what season of life I am in, whether it was a single year, whether you are married and all that, no matter what season, no matter where I am, no matter which place, will I still keep the word of God, obey the word of God from my heart, not because somebody told me, not because somebody will be disappointed, not because I will face some consequences, will your heart keep the commandments of God? Why don't we pray? Father, we thank you for this reminder from your word, this exhortation from your word, Lord. We thank you. Yes, Lord, your desire is that each one of us, Lord, from our heart, obey and keep your words, your commands, your instructions, Lord, from our heart, Lord, and not because somebody is watching, not because, Lord, there could be consequences of not doing because of some authority over us, but from within, Lord, I pray for each one of us, there will be this holy desire and passion, no matter what season of life we could be going into or moving in, Lord, that we will always highly esteem you, your word, the works of your spirit, the instruction from your word, Father God, always Lord, and let our hearts keep your word, keep your commands and maybe see the fruit of this, Lord, long life and peace and favor with you and with others, Master. Yes, Lord. We thank you, Lord. Help us to take that step and continue in doing so, God, by the power of your Holy Spirit. In Jesus' matchless name we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay, so, is it God's will to prosper us? Yes. So, why do you think is God's will to prosper us? Sorry. We are just children. What else? Why do you think it's God's will to prosper us? Why do you think it's God's will? That's because it's God's will. Okay. Yeah, because yeah, because the Bible says it's God's will. Yeah, online books, you can put it on the chat. Like Asapu and Friend. Why do you think it is God's will to prosper? Diksha and Diksha and Smita. Huh? Sabita. Okay. Why? My comes back to you. Why do you think it's, yeah, why do you think it's God's will? It is God's will, it is God's desire to prosper you. Because you need to be sure. Right. These are like very important questions. Yeah. See, we might have an understanding, okay, yeah, I know that God wants to prosper me. It is will that I should, you know, I should thrive and have success and increase in all areas of my life. But, you know, our answer should have a biblical base, right? That's the foundation. So it should be there, based on the word of God, not because this is what I learned in this subject or this is what so-and-so told me. It sounds like a good idea. It has to be based on, so, yeah, Diksha and Sabita, why do you think it is God's will? God thinks, his thoughts are always good. Yeah. So we see that in Jeremiah 21, right? Or 2911, 2911, see that is thoughts are always good. He wants to prosper us. It's not for calamity, right? Another scripture to look at is John 10-10, right? The Lord Jesus said that I am the good shepherd. The enemy comes to steal, kill, destroy. Steal is to take away what is rightfully yours. Kill, put an end to you and to your dreams. Destroy, you know, completely decimate. But what does the Lord say? But I have come that they may have life and life in its fullness or abundance, right? So, yeah. So these are some verses. Okay, little, perhaps, 35, yeah, Psalm 35-27, right? God takes pleasure in the prosperity office servant. So we see that over and over and over again this thing coming through the pages of scripture. Lucy, he created us to be blessed to prosper, rule and reign. He loves us. Lucy again, Genesis 1 26-28. Okay, so not to show what that verse is. Okay, so he blessed them, right? He made them, he blessed them and he said be fruitful, multiply, etc. And so, you know, we have all these truths on the pages of scripture, but we just need to make it ours, right? Be very sure that, okay, this is what it is. And one very important thing is we go back to the cross. Right? Go back to the cross. What happened on the cross? You can't look into your notes now. What happened on the cross? Exchange offer. Yeah. The greatest exchange. Right? The greatest exchange. Scripture says that for our sake, he became poor that we through his poverty might become rich. Right? Something happened on the cross. He took the source of whatever was creating confusion. He took the source of whatever was destroying. He took the source of whatever was killing. Right? That's what he did upon himself. And what is that source? What is it called? What is it called? That source of whatever was creating confusion, death, bringing about death, bringing about disease, bringing about poverty. What was that? The source of that. What is it called? Huh? Yeah. But what is that? Take on himself. Huh? Yeah. But what was causing that source of poverty, the source of sickness, the source of sin? Sorry? Yeah. But on the cross he took the source, source meaning the starting point what was causing the sin, what was causing the sickness, what was causing the disease and so on. So he took that upon himself. So what is that called? Sorry? Infirmities. Now what was causing the infirmity? The sin. Yeah, Deeksha. I think somebody said something. What is that? Three-letter word. What? Three-letter word. Sin. Yeah. Exactly. What does the Bible say? You know, we go to Romans. Romans in the book of Romans, we see that sin entered man and death because of sin. Correct? Romans 5 verse 12. Therefore, just as through one man, sin entered the world and death through sin and thus death spread to all men because all sin. Yeah? Romans 5 verse 12. Right? So sin entered and so we should never forget this. You know, when it comes to maybe we are talking about healing and we are talking about healing and deliverance and everything else, salvation. You know, this is the source. What was causing the damage the Lord took upon himself? He took sin upon himself. In fact, 2nd Corinthians 5 verse 21. We are going a little away from the subject but still 2nd Corinthians 5 and verse 21. What does it say? For he he made him who knew no sin to be sin for us that we might become the righteousness of God in Christ. Right? So that happened on the cross. Yeah? So this is what happened. So on the cross he exchanged. He reversed Romans again. Romans 6 talks about how he destroyed the body of sin. So all this is very important when we even consider prosperity and success and all these things. It's very important because this is it. Normally when we look at the cross we think of it in terms of forgiveness. Right? Forgiveness like being saved from eternal death. Right? And it's a very important thing. You know it's a big part of it. Yes. But also when we consider the word sozo what is sozo? Salvation right? It also includes forgiveness, deliverance general well-being peace. Right? So this is what happened on the cross. So if you say okay I know it's God's will to prosper me. Right? And when you pray for someone and say God prosper this person this person is struggling prosper this person. We should have faith in our hearts. Right? And we should know that this is what God wants. This is what God wants for that person. Right? And so that's the thing. So it is God's will yes to prosper us and yeah I see a lot of responses here. Sin, sin, sin okay thank you. Yeah so that's the thing. Okay so let's continue. So last class we were looking at some of the principles. Right? Principles of you know financial stewardship principles that we were looking at for. We looked at the hindrances and we were looking at the principle. So one of the things that we saw was that we honour God with our finances and therefore we do what God wants us to do and the principles that he's laid out in scripture about finances about money. Right? So we looked at offering we looked at tithe we looked at giving to the poor okay. So we looked at tithes okay so we saw that it's it's something that was established in scripture by the Lord before the law was introduced before the law came. So there's no there's no reasoning that tithing is part of the is part of the law and now that there's a fulfillment of the law by the Lord now the law is done away with we don't have to keep the law in its you know in that sense so I don't have to tithe. We see that tithing happened before much before that. Right? Abraham gave tithes to Melchizedek. Isaac was there and when Isaac tithes of whatever was the produce we see that it was about 300 400 years before the law was introduced through Moses okay. So we understand that it's part of the covenant and it's not part of the law right. And so we also saw that certain things came to an end because of the cross right. What are those things that came to an end that we no longer do because of the cross like if some people would say okay after the cross you know we are living in the new dispensation so after the cross there's no requirement to tithe. So yes, certain things came to an end at the cross. So what are those that came to an end because of the cross sorry sacrifices yes. Blood sacrifice came to an end at the cross. We looked at the book of Hebrews and we saw that okay he is that perfect sacrifice. On the cross Jesus was the perfect sacrifice his blood was shed for us. Therefore there no longer need to be any other sacrifice after the cross. That's something that we saw. Similarly we also see that you know access to the Holy of Holies right. We saw okay once a year the high priest would go only he can go not everyone to the Holy of Holies. So access to God was through the this person who represented people to God and God to people. That's a high priest right. So he used to do that right. Now after the cross what happened we also saw that at the crucifixion itself at the time of the crucifixion when Jesus died on the cross something very significant happened at the temple in Jerusalem that the veil the curtain that was there which was separating the Holy of Holies and you know the other place that was torn that was split right from top to bottom it was not as if somebody cut it from here and tore it and also they say that the curtain was very thick it was almost like a wall this thick yeah so it is a thick thing so it's split from just torn from top to the bottom right. So as God was saying that for now there is no more barrier now there is no more nothing to prevent us from going and having access to and that's what we see in Hebrews chapter 4 we said that now we have come boldly to the throne of grace because he has actually you know he's actually made a way for us to come. So we say that okay now that access by the by one person on behalf of others at a stop. Now I can go freely I can go have access to the, I have access to the Father. That stop what about musical instruments we are praising God you know some people have that argument like in the Psalms he says okay use these musical instruments drums and trumpet and symbols and so on but you know in the New Testament we are supposed to worship only in spirit and in truth like no more musical instruments but then we don't see any explicit instruction like that that this is stopped. In fact if we read the book of Revelation we see that okay there are some trumpets that are mentioned there. There is the harp that is mentioned there say Revelation I think 12 talks about the harps of God and you know time and again there is singing so we see all these things mentioned. So we see that okay there is no explicit instruction saying this has to stop okay so also with typing okay so we are taking some time to look into these verses because it's it's quite important right so also when it comes to typing let's look at a few scriptures and it's specifically talking about what the Lord is saying if you look at Matthew chapter Matthew 23 verse 23 okay Matthew 23 and verse 23 okay so this is the Lord who is correcting the scribes and the Pharisees right so this is what he says he's actually Matthew 23 he's actually giving a very strong disciplining correcting word to the Pharisees and scribes. No he says O unto you it's opposite of blessing some bad things are going to happen so he is saying verse 23 you scribes and Pharisees hypocrites for you pay tithe of mint and anise and cumin now these are like herbs and you know seeds he says you pay a tithe of that even that you pay a tithe okay and then what does he say but have neglected the weightier matters of the law which is which are justice and mercy and faith okay so what is the Lord saying see you are tithing according to the old dispensation and even according to the law you are tithing these things right all these anise and cumin and all that you are tithing okay so then the Lord is saying what have you neglected what are you neglecting not doing he's looking to the verse what is he saying justice mercy faith you know these you have forgotten you are doing this ritualistic tithing but you have forgotten these things right justice and mercy and faith you have forgotten it and it's very interesting what the Lord is saying next what is he saying these you ought to have done without leaving the others undone the last part of that verse these you ought to have done without leaving the others undone what does that mean means that hey mercy and truth and faith is also something that you should have done along with the other things Matthew 23 verse 23 right so without leaving the others undone these you ought to have done so what what is the Lord saying the Lord is saying he is in another place I think it's Matthew 21 22 21 Matthew 5 17 where the Lord says you know I have come to fulfill the law and the prophets Matthew 5 17 I do not think I came to destroy the law or the prophets I did not come to destroy but to fulfill so the Lord Jesus came as a fulfillment of the law and the prophets you know in one way all the prophecies that were made to were made about the Messiah he came as a fulfillment of those prophecies and he also walked righteously and he came to fulfill the law and the prophets so that is something that we see so the Lord himself says okay this is something that you should have done without leaving the others undone and yeah so verse 24 he says blind guides who strain out a nat and swallow a camel so in the sense strain out a nat in the sense okay a nat is just a small insect so maybe you want to drink something and it is fallen into that into the cup or something you strain it out you know you do not want that to impure make it impure you strain out on it but it is just an hyperbole it is an exaggeration so he is saying okay but you swallow the camel which is there so in other words he is saying you know these bigger things you have actually forgotten small things you know you are just so microscopic you are very careful to identify it and make sure that you know that should be taken out or that should be done but these bigger things of he is talking about justice and faith and mercy and he is saying these big things you have actually left it so that is what it says here okay okay so let's look at Hebrew 7 okay so Hebrew 7 also you know if we are saying that okay well the Lord Jesus he spoke he did but this was his earthly ministry and now he is you know even then it was before the cross if we somebody is saying like that you know so we go to Hebrew 7 and verse 8 Hebrew 7 verse 8 the writer of Hebrews is talking about Melchizedek he is talking about tithing that happened during the time of Melchizedek you know he is referring to all that and in verse 8 he says here mortal men receive tithes okay so here mortal men receive tithes but there he receives them of whom it is witnessed that he lives okay so even in the book of Hebrews he is talking about he is talking about the old and he is talking about the new he is talking about the old dispensation and the new where he is saying that you know he is saying that this is what it is even now tithes men receive it on behalf but there it is actually received by you know by God himself so we see that so just to look at just for us to clarify that tithing is something that is relevant and it is part of the new testament it is part of our it is a joy for us to give and as we see God loves a cheerful you know it is not out of compulsion or it is not out of you know necessity but God loves a cheerful second Corinthians 9 we saw that you know what should be the heart of the giver now some of us may have a question right I don't have enough no like so we are saying you know whatever I am getting it is just enough to pay the bills sometimes we have that you know I am getting 5000 this much this much this much everything goes rent everything and I don't have anything left right so how can I give the tithe what is the answer what do you think if someone asks you do you have a question I am asking someone comes and says I have this struggle see I want to give but the reality is that this is the problem what do we tell them manage your expenses manage your expenses then plan how much portion you can give it you are not able to give the tithe what you are earning the 10% of the earning at least you should decide this is the portion which I am going to give so we are saying that this is out of our relationship with God it is not out of fear it is not out of compulsion that this this person is telling me it is out of our relationship with God right so well this is what it is this is reality maybe you are not at a place you are not even at a place of faith to say okay out of the 5000 I will give that 500 right and is 500 one tenth yeah okay so 10% I will give that 500 and then I will you know I will see what I can do maybe that person is not in that place of faith he is talking about all these things so the best thing to do is to encourage that person or you could be that person say that it is fine you decide right now you are in this difficult place you decide you choose between you and God what is it either you can test God and say God you know I am doing this by faith you know make sure that everything is bent but if you are not at that place you choose and say God right now today I am in that place to give one tenth God but what I can I am doing take me to that place where I can give one tenth and even more right so we can pray that prayer saying God you take me to that place I want to come to that place I know that all this is yours I want to come to that place where you can where I want to cheerfully give that one tenth and even more because you know we read about so we read about you know people who are like reverse tithers you know have you heard right so these are people who tithe 80% or 90% of the income and live on the 10% reverse tithers in the sense maybe you know like I don't know if they are what kind of business or something that they are involved in but then they decided that hey this is you know heard of B.A.M. or business as mission so okay whatever comes to me I am going to live on this 10% that's enough for me right that's enough for me all this 20% this will meet my expenses but the rest I am going to give it we need not be tithe but it can be 4 missions or 4 you know kingdom work and all those things so so that's also there that's because that's coming from a relationship with God okay okay so you know when you say okay what happens when we type you know Malachi 3 talks about that okay so let's go to Malachi 3 and Malachi 3 10 says bring all the tithes into the store house that there may be food in my house and try me now and this says a lot if I will not open for you the windows of heaven and pour out for you such blessing that they will not be room enough to receive it okay so this is God's promise to the one who tithe and this is the old covenant yeah this is the old covenant yeah so are we in the new covenant yes and what is the Bible talk about the new covenant this is a better covenant made of better promises so which means there's so much more so much better things which are coming out of that covenant with God right so that's something that we see that yeah this is something it's part of the covenant and this is what the promise of God is okay then what do we see we see in verse 11 verse 11 he says and I will rebuke the devourer for your sakes so that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground nor shall the wine fail to bear fruit for you in the field says the Lord of hosts so this again part of the covenant the Lord is saying I am your protector I am your protector I am your defender and I am the one who is going to cause the devourer says I will rebuke the devourer right I will cause the devourer to go away and not come near and so that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground so what is it saying what the Lord is saying is here's something that you're doing agriculture is what that society was involved in so this is what you're doing you're sowing and you're waiting for the thing and then there's not good harvest you know something comes something calamity something happens and the Lord is saying you know that this devourer I'll make sure that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground nor shall the wine fail to bear fruit for you in the field so is directly related to the work of your hands the work of your hands you know whatever you put your hands to to work and in today's case it could be whatever you're involved in whatever work you're involved in professionally whatever you know business whatever line of work whatever business you are involved in as a human being as a person so the Lord is saying that you know I try me in this right he's saying that I will do this I will be the protector I will so that he will not destroy the fruit of your ground okay and so we talk about the material blessings and the Lord being the protector and so on so this part this comes as part of the covenant and this is the old covenant so then we look at the new covenant and the new dispensation how much more right okay okay so we looked at any questions further questions or doubts on tithing what's related to tithe actually I heard I mentioned of the widow who gave all whatever she had yeah so the pastor interpreted the scripture like that to make the story short he gave the conclusion so tithe is a old excuse it's part of old covenant it's coming from old covenant it's a new covenant you want to give how you need to give like he gave the explanation in that I think Jesus is a member of your family and if you have four members in your family then Jesus is the fifth member divide your salary into five members okay so the fifth portion you are gonna give to church he interpret like that so how much it is correct I mean so it's a sincere plea like invitation to give but it doesn't have scriptural basis that's the only thing right so in fact actually if you see everything that we have belongs to it belongs to the Lord so tithe thing is actually the bare minimum that's all so it's between you and God one thing is we need to have be knowledgeable about this principle or this truth in scripture okay because so one needs to know so one needs to be taught so yes that's fine I think it stops with that rest is up to the person and their relationship with God and how God works in their heart so that's the thing so because if we if we put emotional pressure right to give for a cause or give to the that's when we are doing we are not doing the right thing because we don't see that in scripture like even Paul very clearly says you know this was actually in 2nd Corinthians 9 when we see he says he's talking about something that they had planned one year ago that congregation believers this was something that they will give to the churches in Macedonia the poor in Macedonia this was something they talked about planned one year ago okay so he could very well say you know you guys we promised it come on now pay up even there he says that you as you purpose not out of necessity not out of compulsion you give cheerfully because God is able to make all things abound towards you that you have sufficient for yourself and for every good work so what happens is this actually takes a lot of pressure of the person no more are they giving out of guilt but out of conviction in the the spirit and that's how it should be I'm sure the pastor was very sincere in saying that you can give more but yeah I have a small question I wanted to know your thoughts and suggestions for the same sometimes we've heard people when someone is running a little it's correct when someone is having a little easy to give but when the same person is running much more then the logical so as a pastor that you address it you still go and preach about I think it simply we don't like to compromise true yeah so it's and that's why Bible also is very clear it's one tenth ten percent so no matter what the quantum of amount or the income is it's just a tenth of that so I think it's easy if we just make up our mind and say okay this belongs to God you know this is not coming in this belongs to him and that's the first thing that I'm going to do to use the type and of course over and above that as the Lord lays on my heart I'm going to give so I think it's if you make up our mind then it's easier so we don't worry about what the amount is it could be running into lax or it could be a few hundreds whatever it is we've made up our mind already so I think that's that way it's easier okay so so these are some yeah yeah so that's one question so the question was where should I give my give third time okay so I think that's something that we addressed earlier on and last last where see in the oldest meant it was easy one storehouse one place everybody would come and bring their tithes there and logistically even though it was a problem there were some things that they would do you know they would sell the produce you know if they are and then change it into money and then do it so all that was there but now you know we're talking about if you're looking at once it's not one storehouse but at different local churches so whichever church that you are part of where you are fed spiritually and where you are you're part of that body you know you're receiving you're also serving that would be a good yeah a good way to decide this here again give my tithes some people are saying that we should use your tithe to fulfill the needs of poor and equal I know so some people have that kind of a thing that okay you know you see the needs of people outside you see that there are you know people in poverty use that but the thing is yes Bible does talk about giving Bible does talk about helping the poor and we should do that but that does not come from the tithe it comes from is over and above all that offerings and offerings to the church so it's hard on your flesh how much can I give well one small does it answer your question so it is tough it is difficult see one small this thing is see when we were I think we were kind of newly married and we are living in Bangalore and it was tough you know I think I don't know if I shared this with you guys but it was tough financially so you know so we would just plan and say okay this much for tithe this much for this and then everything you know that's how it was so what happened was there was a neighbor who was in debt so the neighbor's daughter she used to come and my wife used to teach some English and simple math and all this small one she came and said they have a problem and I think actually it was a house help who told they have a problem and the problem was that it was a major issue they were running a small bakery and they had made some bad decisions it wasn't debt and so the creditors were even saying you know you need to it can be very ugly so they were planning to sell some organs like kidney you know I'll do it and then get some money and then pay the thing so we heard it okay we said okay let's do something so we I thought you know okay let me ask some friends and do that but very clearly the Lord said you give okay so I was challenged you know I still remember the place where he spoke and it was a very you know very clear impression in my heart you give and the thing is I had only that much money okay so it was already tough already tight and I had only this much money which I was saving up because my wife was actually expecting and I thought okay I'll buy one second-hand car second-hand Fiat so second-hand Fiat those days I think was some 20,000 or something you know it's like really old I wasn't even thinking of how much money I will put on petrol and you know repairs and so on maintenance I just thought okay this much money I have I'll buy a second-hand Fiat car so I was saving up for that and the Lord said you give and this was the exact amount which they needed so I was like God how do I do it and finally I said okay God I'll give it so I went with Drew gave the amount and the family they I don't know what they did but after sometime we never heard of them they said actually we'll give back the money we never heard of them they moved house they didn't tell us that was a that I've not seen them it's been many years maybe 25 years or something I've not seen them so they that was it but the Lord said you give okay so the thing is sometimes it's very difficult right so when it comes to helping others helping the poor and then we've already given you know the tithes and everything and so we might have that you know argument or that reasoning within us but then we just need to go with God so till now I don't know how that happened but the Lord enabled us to buy a new vehicle now I'm still thinking how did that happen you know so I was working incentives and all that you know I was in sales so I don't know how it happened but the Lord enabled us to buy a new vehicle where I was thinking of buying one old second hand vehicle Lord enabled us to do that right so the Lord is a debtor to no man right so he doesn't owe us anything so he will make sure that he will repay and he's true to his promises I may not see it immediately but the Lord will ensure that he will never you know keep you in want especially when it comes to these things right so yeah so just wanted to share that which is also part of you know the next topic which is listen to the Holy Spirit any other doubts do you have? first I have a question yeah so it is is it good to preach about tithing in church yes are see for example there are some churches where the people have been grown up in church generation after generation they would have you know been born they know okay what and every Sunday you know there's this offering time so in the children's church also there's offering time so they know okay in church at this time they will be offering I need to give they may not understand why but as they grow they understand okay but the fact is that suppose there is a new you know first generation believer coming and they don't know just like how you teach on everything else in the Bible you will teach about Salvation you will teach about renewing of the mind you will teach about the Holy Spirit gifts of the Spirit everything just like how we teach everything else in the Bible we can we need to teach them about this aspect of giving and tithing and so on one incident happened in our church one pastor came from outside he was preaching and suddenly he came in topic of time and he said we should keep this church one with another all the believers were there full family they left church from that Sunday and we got to know that they are saying that it's our money wherever we can want to use we will use so the thing is you know to look into the word to teach them from the word and say okay this is the attitude with which you give finally it's your decision yes it's true that it's your money but this is what the word of God says and well if you choose to you give otherwise so there's no you know there's no compulsion etc but this is what it is it comes out of your relationship with God your walk with God and so when people are taught from the word when you look into the word and the heart with which God says this then there will be no misunderstanding like this yeah because there are there are different ways to teach it you know one can say you know you better give it otherwise bad things are going to happen you know you put fear in people's heart now that's not what God wants yes it is a truth but it comes from a place of relationship this is the truth and you have to decide as a pastor my responsibility is to teach the truth but you as a you know as a believer growing up in the Lord you decide it's between you and God you decide that so that you know frees up the person they are at liberty to talk to God and decide and then give it yeah okay so I think we'll close here I'm sorry I can't hear again the truth I think there's some pastor can you hear me maybe we'll take that question sorry I can't hear you are unmuted just one second we're just trying to see if we can push up the volume here sorry about that yeah can you try now please can you hear me pastor yeah yeah can you just push it up here this volume this ox volume yeah say something please can you hear me yeah please go ahead pastor I wanted to ask now once you have paid the tithe for the full amount do you have to pay again tithes on the interest that you get okay so so we okay the scenario is you getting a monthly income and you also have savings right so that's how we understand it I think no pastor suppose when I retired I paid tithe for the full amount I received okay and then the income I get on that money do I have to pay tithe again on that so you're saying that interest is the income that you're getting yeah right okay so yeah I understand if that is your income if that is your monthly or you know once in six months if that is your income whatever is your increase you can you can choose to give a tithe of that yeah okay yeah because that's your income now right so you're a type person and this is the source of income so and you can you know as an actor worship you can use it to worship God pastor I had asked a pastor previous church he said once you pay there's no need to pay tithes again it should be offering it is out of your own will that you pay because you have paid tithe then like you get your salary monthly and then you pay the tithes and then again you don't pay tithe on the remaining money or the where you invest so that's what he explained to me I just wanted to make sure right right right so you can decide that there's no hard and fast but if you feel that okay this is a source of income that you're getting and you want to you know since you're getting a source of income and if you feel that okay I can do this to honor God go ahead do it okay pastor thank you okay thanks then for pointing that out okay we'll stop here we'll meet again next class right God bless