 Okay, so we'll get started. Just want to read from Psalm 19. Okay, Psalm 19 and this is something that we know, this verse, Psalm 19 and verse 14. Okay, Psalm 19 and verse 14 it says, Let the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my strength and my redeemer. Okay, the words of my mouth, the meditation of my heart be acceptable in your sight, O Lord, my strength and my redeemer. So the Psalmist is saying, Okay, this is bringing to the Lord a few things and he's saying, Okay, let this be acceptable. Okay, which means that these are the areas which can, which have the potential to be not acceptable, right? So he's, first of all, he's saying, Let the words of my mouth. Okay, so words of my mouth, then whatever words I speak, let it be acceptable to you. So the words that we speak, we can hear, others can hear, it's very, very clear. Okay. And then he goes on to say, Meditation of my heart, what I ponder on, what I dwell on, what I think about over and over again. Okay, the words of my mouth and the meditation of my heart be acceptable to you. So saying God, because we know that the Lord knows everything, nothing is hidden from his sight, nothing is hidden from his eyes. But many times, you know, we think that the meditation of our heart is very private and it's not really visible. It's not really, you know, something that, that others can know, and it's true to some extent. But the fact is that the Lord knows, and so the Lord is, so the, so the Psalmist is saying, Lord, let the meditation of my heart be acceptable. And, you know, it's interesting, so he says that, Let it be acceptable in your sight. Okay, the meditation of my heart, words of my mouth, let it be acceptable in your, in your sight, meaning it's almost as if the Psalmist is saying, Lord, you see it. You know, what I think, what I imagine, what I dwell on, you see it. Right, so he's saying, Let it be acceptable in your sight. Let it be acceptable to you. Right, so, so the thing is for us to say, God, you know, let there be a greater awareness of that. You know, whenever we are with people, we are aware. Okay, there are certain things that I should say, certain things I should not say. Okay, maybe we have a children, and then, you know, or with adults, or with, you know, and then we, we sometimes we change our behavior according to that. Right, okay, teachers, teachers there, or, you know, pastors there. Okay, maybe I will not use certain words. I will not say certain things. Church friends are there. But then when we are with family, when we are with, you know, when our God is down. Okay, what are the words that we speak? When our God is down, really what is the meditation of our heart? Right, so the psalmist is aware that Lord knows everything. In fact, the previous, you know, verses talk about that. Right, verse 12 says, Who can understand his errors, cleanse me from secret faults. Right, which means that it is there within. I sometimes even I'm not aware of it, but it's a fault. It's something, you know, not known to others, not known to everyone, but Lord cleanses me from that. Right, so let's, this morning, you know, let's just pray saying Lord, make a sensitive to that sense to give us that sense of, it comes down to Lord, just awareness of your presence, you know, acknowledging your presence at all times. And so, accordingly, our meditation, the meditation of our hearts also that we are aware of how we discern and we stop certain things and we allow certain things. Right, Father, we thank you Lord that you are a very present God, very present Lord. Day in and day out, you are with us Lord. And what an awesome privilege. What an awesome privilege, God, that we are never left alone, God, that you are always with us. And so, God, this morning, Lord, even as we read your word, we are aware of your presence, Master. Lord, aware of your presence, Lord, in our meditations, Father God, the meditations of our heart, whether it's edifying, unedifying, whether it's full of faith, full of unbelief, Lord, whether it's angry or Lord, whether it's peaceful Lord, whatever it is, you are aware of it. And Jesus, this morning, we asked Lord that, may we have that awareness? May we have that awareness of your presence, God? May we have that awareness of the things that we meditate on? And Lord, we pray that you would quicken, Spirit of God, that you would quicken to our hearts and we'll be quick to hear. We'll be swift to hear the voice of the Spirit. And even as your word says, let Him hear what the Spirit of God is saying. And so, may we be people who'll be swift to hear. Sharpen our hearing, Lord. And Lord, strengthen our doing. Well, that's something that we pray, God, sharpen our hearing. May we be sensitive to the voice of the Spirit. And Lord, strengthen, empower our actions, Lord. May we act on conviction, may we act out of group, Lord. Never out of pretence, God. We thank you. We give you all the praise and glory in Jesus' name, we pray. Amen. Amen. Okay. So, we've been looking at the qualifications of the preacher, right? We looked at the call of the preacher and we looked at some of those signposts kind of revisited. And today, let's look at the qualifications of the preacher. What is it that qualifies the preacher? Okay. So, when we look at the epistles, we see some of the things that Paul writes to... Oops. Just one second, sorry. Yeah. When Paul writes in the epistles, and maybe you're looking at it, you're studying this. You know, when we look at the ministry of the pastor evangelist teacher, you know, we'll be studying that also. But let's... Yeah, let's just take a quick look at... Yeah. So, 1 Timothy, chapter 3. Okay. 1 Timothy, chapter 3. And a few verses from the beginning of the chapter. So, this is a faithful saying, if a man desires the position of a bishop, he desires a good work. A bishop then must be blameless, the husband of one wife, temperate, sober-minded, of good behavior, hospitable, able to teach, not given to wine, not violent, not greedy for money, but gentle, not quarrelsome, not covetous, one who rules his own house well, having his children in submission with all reverence. For if a man does not know how to rule his own house, how will he take care of the church of God? Not a novice. Lest being puffed up with pride, he fall into the same condemnation as the devil. Moreover, he must have a good testimony among those who are outside, lest he fall into reproach and the snare of the devil. And then he goes on from verse 8, talks about the deacons of people who are looking into the administrative tasks of the church. And he talks about some of the qualifications there as well. And there also we see that in, as per this list, and the next one, he says that there's a lot of attention to character. A lot of attention to character. And it doesn't mean that skill or ability is left out. He talks about that also. So in this, what we saw, there is skill and ability mentioned. Can you just tell me where, verse 2, verses 1 to 7, where does he talk about skill or ability? Able to teach. So that's verse 2. And the last part of verse 2 says, able to teach. So there he talks about ability. Anywhere else? Yeah. So one who rules his own house well, that also talks about ability, which means he takes care of the family or the household, and he does it well. So these two things we see in these seven verses, where he talks about ability, says that one should be able to teach, one should be able to take care or rule his household, is a household well. And the rest of the things talk about character. Talk about how the person is, how the person should be on the inside, and how the lifestyle should be. So these are important things that we see. Let's go to Titus. It's chapter 1 itself, verse 5. He says to Titus, for this reason I left you in Crete, that you should set in order the things that are lacking and appoint elders in every city as I commanded you. So you're saying Titus that you go, appoint people, appoint elders. And this is how they should be, verse 6 onwards. Man is blameless. You see almost a ditto, a repetition of the qualities that he listed to Timothy. So he says, must be blameless, steward of God, not self-willed, everything. Self-controlled, etc. Holding fast the faithful word, as he has been taught, that he may be able, by sound doctrine, both to exhort and convict those who contradict. So there comes the aspect of teaching, there comes the aspect of doctrine, and by sound doctrine, able to exhort, meaning encouraged teach, etc. So we see similar things as the, if you could say the qualifications or the characteristics that a person needs to have. And it's a general, we can say, it's not just to preach, but it's to be a person who's a minister, who's handling the word, who wants to minister, who's interested in ministering the word of God. Okay, so I'm just sharing the notes here. So one of the basic, some of the basic things that we see, and it might seem like, isn't this very, very basic? Isn't this understood? That one person has to be like this. You look at the list. This theologian Kallunga, he gives spiritual qualifications, about seven he lists down. The first one is that, he uses the word expositor, meaning one who teaches, one who preaches from the word. Saying the expositor as a regenerated believer. So this is, you know, some decades ago, the person is writing, right? And his theologian is put together these thoughts. So, which means that there was a trend, and even also today, there is a trend for people to desire to be preachers or to get into ministry as a profession. Okay, just like any other profession. Okay, and sometimes it is like, okay, I'm not getting into any other, let's say, educational institution or any other profession. So let me try ministry. Okay, sometimes that's the line of thought. Okay, and then people come into that. So, it is sad, but as a result of that, there's a lot of damage that happens to the church, right? And some of the churches that, you know, I've been in and also one of the church, the church where I was part of, going through a lot of difficult times right now, because of this kind of mentality. You know, why did the person, maybe at some point they were sincere, but then the real motive for getting into ministry seems to be, you know, what the Bible talks about, you know, unlawful gain. Okay, the motive is not, I want to serve, but motive is, what can I get? So, and also at a very basic level, you know, there is no, the person is not a born again believer. Okay, so some of us coming from charismatic churches or, you know, that kind of a Pentecostal background, for us it might be, you know, how can even this be possible? How can this be possible? Shouldn't, you know, only a believer will actually get into, you know, ministry or go into theological training, not so, right? For example, you know, this happened, I don't know if I shared with you, but this happened many, many years back when in our church, I mean, back then, Jav was part of, so they invited a worship leader, you know, to come and lead worship, teach preach, worship workshop, etc. So he came and he, it was very anointed, you know, very simple, very anointed, and I think people's hearts were really touched, right? So when he gave an altar call for people to accept the Lord as saviour, it's very clearly said, you know, you can be in church, you can be doing several things, but not be born again. You cannot really receive the Lord as your saviour. So he shared that, and then he gave an altar call, and guess who was the first person to receive the Lord, the pastor, right? But praise God, he had the humility and the boldness to do that, right? So he didn't think, okay, I'm a pastor, what will people think? You know, I'm the leader of this particular church and what will people think if I stand up and if I say, you know, I'm not yet born again? No, he actually did that, he had the humility to say, hey, this is something new, this is something that I want, and therefore I'm going ahead and he became a believer then. Then we know from our interactions, we were the youth then, so it was a different pastor that we knew, because now his whole ministry and everything changed from then on, right? So this is the basic thing, and the reason is this, there were people, there are people who get into ministry for the sake of ministry, for the sake of it being another degree, another profession and so on. So, you know, this theologian, he just put down saying it must be a regenerate, believe it or not, okay? So, okay, the next one, as a spirit filled and spirit taught, okay? So this is also something that we need to emphasize, or we need to, you know, kind of ensure being spirit filled and spirit taught, okay? So now, if you look at, if you look at Acts chapter, maybe Acts chapter 8, okay? Let's go to Acts chapter 8. Okay, Acts chapter 8 and verse 14. Excuse me. It says, now when the apostles who were at Jerusalem heard that Samaria had received the word of God, they sent Peter and John to them. Okay, now this is, I think we know this, right? We have studied this. Are you learning about the Book of Acts and Paul right now? Finished already? Missionaries, you know, Book of Acts and Life of Paul? Not yet, okay? So anyway, you do a thorough study. But in this, when we see that Samaria, who went to Samaria to share the gospel? Philip. So Samaria is already, you know, I mean, at least most of them had accepted the Lord, you know, so the church was started there, et cetera. Now Peter and John, the apostles here in Jerusalem that Samaria had received the gospel. So the word of God. So they sent Peter and John to Samaria. So what did Peter and John do? Then they go to Samaria. Yeah. So, yeah, so this is the first thing that they do. So they've all already believed us. So verse 15, when they had come down, prayed for them that they might receive the Holy Spirit, for as yet he had fallen upon one of them. There'd only be baptized in the name of the Lord Jesus. So they laid hands on them and they received the Holy Spirit. So this was something that the early church did, right? That they introduced them to the baptism of the Holy Spirit and minister to them and they received the Holy Spirit. Okay. So it was not left to chance. They were very intentional about it. Okay. Let's look at Acts chapter 19. Acts chapter 19. You know, several other places we know Acts chapter 10 and you know, Acts chapter 9 also. Acts chapter 19. This is the church at Ephesus, right? So when it verse 1, Acts chapter 19 and verse 1. And it happened while Apollos was at Corinth that Paul having passed through the upper regions came to Ephesus and finding some disciples. So that means that he found some people who were followers of the Lord Jesus. They were disciples, right? Finding some disciples. What did he do? He said to them, Did you receive the Holy Spirit when you believed? That seems like a question. Yeah. Obviously, how else could I live as a believer? Right? But his question was something else, right? So they said to him, look at this. They said to him, We have not so much as heard whether there is a Holy Spirit. And he said to them into what then were you baptized? So they said into John's baptism and then on and on and then verse 6. And when Paul had laid hands on them, the Holy Spirit came upon them and they spoke with tongues and prophesied. They were about 12 of them. So this is something that we see again. So here were disciples and they had not heard about the Holy Spirit. Okay, now we can say, okay, it was those times. You know, maybe they didn't have the understanding. Maybe they didn't have the teaching and so on. So now we don't have any excuses, right? We have the understanding. We have the teaching. It's very prevalent and so on. Okay, so quite recently also, I was talking to some people and then their understanding was that, well, when we believe Jesus, when we receive Jesus, the Holy Spirit is indwelling us and that was enough and that is the baptism of the Holy Spirit. And so that was the understanding. So again, you know, the teaching that the baptism or infilling of the Holy Spirit, it's not something very complex, very simple, but yet they did not have that understanding. Okay, so to be spirit-filled, that's one thing. Since we know and we have had that experience, we teach others as well. And this is important qualification, right? Why? Yeah, but why? Sorry, giving? Yeah, shows the power. Yeah, so the Lord's desire is that we be clothed with power. Okay, and the power, expression of power. When you say power, it's not like, wow, and then the whole thing breaks. So the power is for life transformation and the expression of the power or expression of Holy Spirit, the way he expresses himself is through the gifts. Gift of faith, word of knowledge, word of wisdom, healings, miracles, all those things. So the Lord Jesus wants us to give witness or bear witness to him in these ways with power. Some of the people, like the Christians from years and years and so, they don't have this Holy Spirit baptism experiences. But they actually have this faith, word of knowledge, they do healings, miracles, and they don't know this understanding and they don't even have this Holy Spirit baptism experience. Then what about them? How are they doing? Okay, so the question is, what about people who do not have the Holy Spirit baptism experience? But how do we come to that conclusion? In our state. I mean, most of the pastors who are in villages, so they don't have the experience of Holy Spirit baptism and what they think is Holy Spirit baptism is something that happens for some people, it won't be happen for everyone. But the ministries were really very big and they don't preach this Holy Spirit baptism also. But they do miracles in the name of Jesus. Okay, so the thing is this, so when you say they did not have Holy Spirit baptism, are you saying that they don't pray in tongues? Or... Expression of. But expressing through word of knowledge, healings, miracles, but what they are telling is they don't have any Holy Spirit baptism. So that is the question. How do they know that they are not filled with the Holy Spirit? When Holy Spirit baptism is different, right pastors? So how do they know that they are not baptized in the Holy Spirit? So it can happen in an instant. By not knowing Holy Spirit. Okay, they know. In the sense they might not... See, it is like this, you know. For example, when a person is born again, okay. Now they may not have the language to express that they are born again. They know that, hey, I love Jesus. Jesus means something to me. But they have not been in that environment where people have said, okay, are you born again? Suppose you ask them the question, are you born again? Now they will talk about the day when they were baptized. Okay, yeah, I got baptized. The question is, you know, when was it that you received? Did you pray and receive? I really don't know. But then, you know, I love Jesus. They don't know when they actually received Jesus into their heart. Right? When it happened, you know, was it a powerful moment? Was it a significant moment? Did they feel anything? Did something happen to them? They can't say. Okay. Like for example, in my life, now I don't know when I received the Lord. I don't know. I just that, you know, I got interested. I was reading the Word. I found the questions that I had, you know, in the Word. The Lord was leading me. So I really don't know when I accepted the Lord as, I didn't pray like, Lord, come into my heart. So that same way, Holy Spirit baptism also, you know, now we are teaching intentionally and saying this. I remember at a time when this friend and myself, we were praying. It was on a Saturday evening. We were praying and we started, you know, praying intensely. Something happened. I knew that, you know, it was a different kind of experience altogether because we were praying for, by the time we finished praying, it was about three hours. Okay. Was I praying in tongues? No. But did something different happen powerfully internally? Yes. So, I didn't pray in tongues. I didn't have any of the other gifts of the Spirit, but I knew first fact that I was filled with the Spirit. Because I can remember that day, something happened very powerfully on the inside. So that's why I'm asking, you know, the pastors could have that kind of an experience. Like I remember talking to a Methodist pastor where he, he said, he was in Bible college and he was, they did not teach about this, but he said, Lord, I want everything that you have for me. And he prayed and he said that, you know, this whole room lit up and he had this experience where he was just, you know, being touched by God, filled by God. He had this, he was crying and, you know, and then he, did he, he didn't speak in tongues. But the fact is that he felt that something was very different, it was a powerful experience in the Holy Spirit. Yeah. So I'm just saying, yeah. Praying in Spirit is not only about praying in tongues, but what we used to tell in this, through the scriptures in the whole last semester, before semester. Yeah. It is one of the basic... Yeah. Praying in Spirit is in praying in tongues. We used to... Yeah, absolutely. So how, can I say like, I can, I can pray in spirit without tongues. See how you're told. No, no, no. We can't say that. We can't say that I'm praying and because when you look at scriptures, scriptures very clearly saying that praying in the spirit is praying in tongues. That's the understanding. Wherever the usage is, like how we studied, wherever the usage praying in the spirit is, is referring to praying in tongues. Paul very clearly distinguishes. I pray with the spirit, I pray with the understanding. So what is the thing? I'm praying in tongues, I'm praying with the... I'm singing with the spirit, I sing with the understanding. So that distinction is very clear. No, all I'm saying is that, you know, we could have an understanding that this gift is, if God wants to give me He will, I will not intentionally pursue, I will not step into by faith. I might have an urge to, you know, speak out, but then I will not because of my wrong understanding. I will not get or step into the, you know, specifically I'm talking about gifts of the tongues, gift of tongues. But maybe other gifts like word of knowledge, word of wisdom, even prophecy, you know, I sense that, oh, this is, visually, you know, something God is showing and I just, you know, share that. And it's, yeah. No, no, but is this okay? Yeah, yeah, fine. Is there, we need a time or even to just, to just baptize in Holy Spirit and fire or like how you said, we can may receive unknowingly, but we don't know, we don't have that understanding, or we need a particular instance or a particular event or a particular time to just receive, sit and ask, like how we used to do. We used to, yeah. Holy Spirit baptism Sunday. Right, right, right. So, see, very clearly it is a significant moment. It's a particular moment in time, right? We see right through scripture that there is something that happened. But because of our, you know, how it happened over the years, because of our lack of understanding or even because of our lack of teaching, wrong understanding, whatever, we don't, we are not in a place or maybe we're not in the, you know, that kind of a teaching where we don't recognize what has happened to us. Like for example, if there was someone who had told me, hey, you know, why don't you just pray out, I'm sure that you, the Lord has put in certain words, you speak that out, that is gift of trust. And what God is doing is, you know, it's anointing of baptism of the Holy Spirit you've received, you know, just thank God for it, let's continue. I would have, but unfortunately there is no one, you know, so the thing is we, it is a different event. It is something that, you know, that marks, we know something happened, something special happened, something different happened. Maybe even if you ask these pastors, they'll tell you, you know, there was something, something special, something happened, but maybe they said, they just put it aside as something that God is doing and not necessarily link it to baptism of the Holy Spirit. That could be I think. You went and asked So what they say is, you can use the mic, yeah. Me and God, who are you to say like this? That's a different. We have our own understanding with God. It's nothing wrong. So I was, when I was showing the scriptures, they're telling like, no, it's understanding between me and God. They were talking about it. I don't really understand. So when you told them what... When we are speaking and praying in spirit, what they're telling is, we also pray in spirit only. But may not in tongues. So when they say, when they're praying in spirit, what do they mean by that? Yeah, whole hearted. Praying, whole hearted. Playing with the intensity. That feel will be there like faster. They know that spirit of God is doing something. Yeah. See, that is fine. Absolutely, you know, you can say, okay, I'm praying as led by the spirit of God. I'm praying intensely as led by the spirit of God. All that is fine. But the the phraseology of you know, all the semantics of praying in the spirit or praying with the spirit according to scripture is praying. So we don't have to, you know, contradict them. You're saying Yeah, absolutely. Absolutely. And the Lord, see, and the Lord acknowledges the faith of the people. Yeah, they have the faith. They are living a sacrificial life. They are, you know, sold out to Jesus and they are speaking the word and the Lord confirms the preaching of the word. The signs and wonders and miracles. Yeah. Like, you know, like, we know that outpouring of like when we are baptized with the spirit or when we are filled by the spirit we receive gifts. Yeah. There are a lot of releases. Gifts like we can only experience the gifts of the spirit when we are filled by the spirit. Yeah. Yeah. Can a person like filled by the spirit and can't speak in tongues? Can it happen? Yeah. So that's the thing. It's the thing I see. And it can happen for various reasons. Like, not like it can be like my own understanding expectation. It's slightly different my own fears all those reasons. Right. And see my own understanding and expectation the sense see I want it but my expectation of how it will happen is totally different. You know, it's like I'm going to keep my mouth shut I'm going to be praying in some other language and still expect to start to begin to speak in tongues and things like that. So, yeah, it is possible. Yeah. So speaking in tongues is not the evidence that is created in this. It's one of the things. It's definitely one of the things. See, like we studied we saw accept a 2 accept a 8, accept a 9 accept a 10, accept a 17. All these five instances point to the fact that something supernatural happened. And we can actually come to the conclusion that it was now see we're talking about a time after the dark ages and we look at we're looking at a time so as a time when this whole thing was the whole thing of preaching the gospel was in the was not even there. The Lord is bringing that back through those different moves. We actually see the move about, you know, coming back to receiving the Lord salvation by faith and one by one we see that and then also the release of the outpouring of the Spirit understanding of the gifts of the Spirit. All that the Lord is restoring. So the thing is that people have grown up in different, let's say church backgrounds with different emphasis and so we come with different understanding. But that was not like that in the early church. So that's the thing. So that is why yeah, so we have all these different kinds of emphasis and also these kind of situations that we have. If a person like moving in the gifts of the Spirit but that person don't have the gift of tongues. But so obviously like if he have a gift of prophecy when he's going to give a prophecy he will be like we will be depending on God on the Holy Spirit and we will be praying like okay what you want me to do, what you want me to go and speak. So at that time they were praying to God, they were praying to the Spirit. So is it not praying in the Spirit because they are going to do the gifts of the Spirit. They are going to move in the gifts of the Spirit. So what they are going to pray before that is it not considered as gifts of the Spirit? They are praying in Spirit. According to the Bible no. See that's the thing no. So I don't think we should get caught up in the usage. See they are seeking God's heart. They want God's best for the people. They want God to use them. They want God to reveal their heart and speak through them and they are praying. They are praying in line with God's heart. We should not say we are praying in the Spirit. That's the only thing. So it would be it would be because when you look at 1 Corinthians 14 it's very clear what Paul is saying, praying in the Spirit and I think so they are praying with fire yeah okay So after the Spirit we pray in the Spirit and one of the point it will come like so God will use us in particular gift especially like when it comes to me he will use me in particular gift when it comes to Prince he will use him. So what about that see I have this gift of prophecy or I have the gift of word of knowledge. So I will be more I will be more explored into this field of knowledge word of knowledge. I may be not more explored in this gift of tongues and gift of prophecy. So what about that and the other thing is when I came from this preaching only from start in the started. So when I came here I got to know all these scriptures and when you told I asked you personally also one of the time I got clarified and I was satisfied. When I went and so in these three months I spoke to so many pastors and ministers. So what they used to tell is then why you are not filled with Holy Spirit. If you are praying in spirit means you have to pray in tongues. So then what about all the ministry we are doing. What about all the things we are doing. So they will tell like that. So what about in the sense is it of Holy Spirit or not no I used to tell like when we are praying in spirit we have to pray in tongues. So when I told like this they were like in a different way. So God gave me word of knowledge. So what is the question again sorry. What my first point is when this coming to gift of spirit God using me in gift of knowledge. Okay. So we come back to again that foundational thing that the gift of spirit on expression of the spirit. It's a manifestation that's why we read 1.12 first chapter itself we see that this is a manifestation expression of the Holy Spirit. So these are with the Holy Spirit. Everything belongs to the Holy Spirit. This is a manifestation expression of the Holy Spirit. So who has come who releases that within us the Holy Spirit. Okay. So that is why we say every believer can manifest all the expressions of the Holy Spirit. Okay. That's a given because the Holy Spirit is the one who expresses. We so that's one thing we express, we desire we expect and the Holy Spirit moves through us. Okay. And then we saw 1.12 the last verse. It says honestly desire the best gifts. Desire best gifts plural. Okay. Then we come to chapter 14 and verse 1 purse you love and desire spiritual gifts especially that you may prophesy. Okay. And we look them. So which means that God desire will is that we walk in the gifts of the spirit all the gifts of the spirit. Not just one. Now having said that we know that the 5-fold, the 5-fold ministry now we have completely gone away from preaching Biblical preaching the 5-fold ministry is for certain people and not all. Okay. Now if you call to be a apostle it's not it's not something that I choose but God chooses that apostle, prophet, evangelist, pastor, teacher. Now we know that along with that 5-fold along with that call there are certain gifts that will operate like in a greater frequency in a greater level of accuracy and a greater degree of influence like for a prophet we know that it won't be a simple word gift of prophecy which brings exhortation, edification and comfort. It could be more than that it could be it will have more of that aspect of foretelling okay and the word of knowledge functioning and we also know like when we see scripture that it will also have governmental authority, right while yes within the 4 walls of the local church, yes the gift of prophecy will function but when it's an apostolic when it's a 5-fold ministry call we know that it has governmental authority also how do we know that we see Agabus and all other New Testament prophets we see that they were announcing the move of God this is what is happening in the region and so on so we know that so that is why certain gifts operate very powerfully or in greater degree of level of accuracy frequency because the call is like that right for a pastor then it could be word of wisdom word of knowledge, word of wisdom to a greater degree because it's more of a counseling kind of a situation or it could be grounding people in the word and so on so we'll see more of that working so that the student really restricts us from desiring special gifts that is a given for all believers but we see the Lord leading us so that is the other thing so while we are studying this we slot it into categories and study it but then we know when God moves these gifts overlap and so that his will and purpose is done and I remember one of the students asking me the question they come from Kohima I think we have people in our church it's a Presbyterian church Presbyterian church doesn't normally preach about the outpouring of the Holy Spirit believes in more of a cessationist kind of a theology they are saying we have people in our church some of these old grandmothers are there and they prophesy they word of knowledge very accurate word of knowledge how is that possible they have not been taught about this is the thing right so any other questions okay so spirit filled very important very scriptural what about spirit taught why are we saying that person must be spirit filled and spirit taught okay so Anand said we should know what to speak what not to speak absolutely yeah so the thing is when you are saying spirit taught to be saying that yes God has given us wisdom God has given us knowledge God has given us a mind sharp mind where we can use our minds but we know that our minds must be renewed by the word of God plus the spirit of God gives us revelation so I need to know I need to rely on the Holy Spirit I need to be led by this because the Lord Jesus very clearly said the Holy Spirit will teach you and remind you of the things that I taught He will lead you He will guide you into all truths so if I am going to block out that aspect or if I am ignorant of that aspect then I am going to block out a greater part of the revelation that the Holy Spirit wants to give me the deeper truths that He wants to and that is very important that constant receiving of revelation and teaching of that is very important so spirit filled spirit taught in other words being spirit led okay we will stop here thank you so much online students God bless