 Do you know why you think every woman is a gold digger? It's because you don't really understand how women function. No matter how wealthy a woman is, your money is important in her life. If you cannot take care of that woman, zip up and leave her alone for someone else that can take care of her, every woman is wired to collect. Listen, I've been to 56 countries in my life. No woman wants to work. Forget that story. Women only work because of the insecurity and the affinity of men. Because if a woman is not working and you are the same person that we say, you are lazy, you are ill-ability, I don't want ill-ability. The way God created it, no woman is supposed to work. Every woman is supposed to be taken care of. The Bible says here that cannot feed his family is worse than an infant. I don't know who the Bible most of you read. You are not a man because you have something dangling between your legs or because you are a champion on the bed. You are a man because you can take care of your woman. You are a man because you can protect your woman. You are a man because anything your woman needs, you can provide. If you have not gotten to that point, my brother, you are not a man. You are a chicken. I know you will not like this video and I really don't. My name is Apostle Emmanuel Ocosa. If you can't take care of that woman, go and find your size. If you don't get it, then forget about it. I just want to relax. I'll be taking care of her. Alright, so the clergyman Emmanuel Ocosa has said that any man who cannot cater to the needs of a woman, see the way we are smelling today, she better leave him alone. Now in the video that we just played, he said formally known as Soul-E, I think said women are not wired to work. He further stated that he has travelled to so many countries and has come to understand that women do not like to work but want to be taken care of. He stated that no matter how wealthy a woman is, she still wants the money of a man. So tonight we are asking, Vico, is what this man is saying the truth are women wired to collect and not walk? Please, let's hear what you have to say. Remember you can join the conversation. Send us an SMS or WhatsApp to the world, 803466, so you can also tweet at us and wish you have come on the hashtag wish show. Let me introduce Uti Elubak in the building. Even though we didn't... Uti, you came prepared for us today. Hello, hello. Hi, Uti. So, I mean, who do I start with in this conversation? No, you, you, you. All this soft life life that you are talking about, you are talking about sharing business, I don't understand. How does it correlate? But in fairness, if they left me, say there is just money somewhere to be spending, I know go work, I know go live. And I think that that is... Do men like working? I don't understand the concept of you asking about demand. No. The angle at which you are going, is already up for me. Like, how? What has, how does that question factor into this conversation? Interpreting is are women wired to collect and not work? How does men now come into that statement? Where you say men like work? No, over said that, she would, truly and truly, she would like if there's money somewhere. And I know said that. I think everybody, if there's money somewhere, will sit down and not work. This is what you're doing now. This is that thing where we start to talk about gender equality and then men wake up and say men's lives matter. Please, can we stay on topic? Men's lives matter. Can we stay on topic? Men's lives matter. But for the amount of time that the female gender has suffered, I'm sorry men can hold on. So women should not work? I'm not saying women should not work. That's not the question. The way I'm tackling you, is that men like to work. Is that still on topic? If there's money available, man or male or female, nobody will love. On topic. There's no getting her there. I also get her. You don't get me. I can't get you. I'm sorry, I can't get you. Because you are trying to stray off topic. What would then happen is that the men would then say that, yes, excuse me. Excuse me, I'm sorry. I don't agree with everything the pastor has said. In the sense that when he says women don't want to work. There has been a cultural shift. If we look at historically, back in the day, women didn't work. Women stayed at home, they looked after the kids, they sorted all of that stuff out. The man was the breadwinner, he went out, he brought the money. Whether the man was a drunkard, he brought the money. So, women realized, you know what? This is not really working for us. Because, not every man was a good man. If you are married to a drunkard and he spends all his money before he gets home, you and your kids are going to starve. So women start to realize, actually you know what? I want a voice, I want to sit at a table, I want to be able to look after my family. And they went and fought for the right to work. Now, this is where I tell people, like I tell people all the time, because feminism has become a noose around our necks. Right? So, you have women who did it because it was necessary. Within the context of who they were and the position they had within society, the family construct and all of those things. Right? Now, as time went on, men knew their roles and I know people will come for me and say, there's no gender, it's okay, we all have different opinions, everybody will be just fine. But the fact is, right, think about it. Think about your parents. Think about where the shift started to happen. All of a sudden, women were doing great, they were making their own money and I totally agree that a woman should make her own money, by the way, so that it doesn't sound like I think that women shouldn't work. I totally believe that women should make their own money because your husband got dropped dead tomorrow. Well, my money is my money. Why? Right? There are multiple ways to make money. What I don't like about feminism is where women have got to the point where they start saying things like, if I don't work, I'll be sick. You don't like to enjoy life? I mean, come on now. You can't read a book, you can't watch a movie. You can't learn something. You can't even make a ghost milk like in your partner. You can't even make a ghost milk like in your partner. I learned something new that you said that I must work. Hold on. You said that I must work. If you want to work, everybody to their own lane. If you want to fall sick because you don't work. I wish you're the best in life. That means clearly the good things of life have not hit you. That's why you feel like work is the thing that you must aspire to. I really love that meme that says, what is it? I don't aspire to work. Yes. But the truth of it is we all work. We are all smart, capable women. In fact, if you take it back to for those that are Christians, if you take it back to the almighty Proverbs 31 there is business inside that conversation. So there's nothing that says that women don't want to work. It is a difference between my working now being an expected part of the equation. So I saw this shift when guys used to go from I would pay the rent to I am now looking for a girl that can share can share the rent with me or can share the bills. I went to America to see my cousin and then they had a business him and his wife and they had divided in such a way that this week it was a bakery. This week all the others are coming. He will bake. The week he is baking he will buy all the materials. Then all the profit from that week is his. Then the following week when she is baking I mean my brain just couldn't wrap around it. I am like why don't you just have separate businesses and let's call it a day. Then you are not talking about who is paying this who is paying that. I might as well stay by myself. What's the point? But there was something he said he says you are not a man if you cannot provide. I want to come to Norma because we have heard these things in different quotas. I remember there was one famous speech that she had given that talked about that we cannot be saying that a man is not a man because he is unable to provide. Those are also part of the pressures that we have put on men that makes it look like if a man he used that. But we didn't put the pressure on them though. Because he used that quote that says he is worse than an ify dead. That's not how the Bible is. But let me come to you in Norma. Sorry Norma just a second. The man, when they can't provide it has nothing to do with you and I. They are going to be grumpy anyway. So it is all on them. It is all on them. Norma, let me hear your thoughts. I have checked my life. I was meant for the soft life. I agree. Don't pamper me. Let me not be seeing some. I agree. The beauty you will be seeing, I will be glowing. I will be glowing. So why are you walking? I don't understand. She has been cultured to work. Norma let me hear your thoughts on this. We may wire to collect or to work. Do you agree with the pastor? I think I have a problem with the choice of words. Because I don't understand what collect means. Is it that we beg them? No, I don't understand. Let's change it to receive. Is it receiving love? Is it receiving love? Is it money? Collect money, collect love, collect care, collect submission. Collect, collect, collect. It's not. For me, the perspective I want to tackle it from is the perspective of women being wholesome. When we were created, we were created complete. So whether you are working, whether you are collecting, all now collect and work. We have capacity to be able to collect. We have capacity to be able to work as individuals and in a team effort we have capacity to help we have capacity to receive as well. For me, it sounds... I don't know, but it sounds a little bit detrimental to women to say that everything about the women or that women... I don't have a problem. I think I agree with nobody has to disagree. I don't agree with everything he said. I find it almost insulting to say that women are wired to collect because really I probably agree with Mary in that regard. Everybody is made to collect. Everybody is made to work. When women were created, except if I'm reading my Bible upside down or something, but there it says that they were both made to be fruitful and multiply and fieldier. So in your capacity, whatever talent, whatever it's supposed to be able to in the work of your hands, you're supposed to be able to create a value with what it is. And then when you come together as a team, whether in form of a relationship or in form of marriage, then it's even supposed to be combined efforts to be able to to make things even better because I think the same Bible says one would chase a thousand and two would chase tens of thousands. So you're able to achieve more. So if you're going to tag a woman and you say a woman is made to collect, I find that a little bit if not more insulting than anything because really if you ask anybody and that's why I'm agreeing with Mary, if you ask a guy, nobody wants to have to stress to do anything but the truth of it is that we have to do something to be to create value and to get commensurate value in return. So if that is it, if I'm by myself then I have to be able to do something to make a living. But if I'm in a relationship like I am now in a marriage relationship and again that's where I agree with Uti because you're saying that we should start sharing roles and the man is supposed to take on the role of the head, which is a person that there's always a CEO in a company for example and there's like a CFO and the COO whatever but these are team members but somebody is the one person who takes responsibility for everybody else. So when you now make it look as if that we are now on a time shadow so then it becomes transactional and it's not what it is. I get you I get you boys see don't overthink this thing I don't mind them to tell me that they are uncollected don't overthink you're overthinking this thing let me tell you something even the way a woman is wired she's wired to receive it's not even our biologically I receive things and I multiply it inside and give you back but let's go to a break we'll come back we'll come back we'll come back from the break I want to hear your thoughts would you agree with normal do you agree with married me I like soft life it's okay everybody likes soft life alright so thanks for staying with us if you just tuned in ladies night out and we're discussing the topic are women wired to collect and not work according to one pastor now please let's hear what you have to say remember you can join the conversation send us an SMS or whatsapp to 08-1 803-4663 you can also tweet at us at the hashtag now our phone line is now open the number to call is 070-2500-7749 that's the number to call remember to please turn off the device of whatever it is that you're watching us from so we can hear ourselves and we don't have a feedback I want you to finish your thoughts before I come back into the studio to the ladies what I was trying to say is that where I have a challenge is the word collect I don't think it's appropriate to label not pigeoning collect I can change it to receive it's alright normal you have a husband please does your husband not give you money in the house does your husband not pay the rent does your husband not pay the school fees no man I think the crux of the issue is lost first and foremost we all agree that we don't agree with everything that he has said but this thing you are saying and the affronts that you are finding in the statement it's really not there because if you tell me that you have a husband and your husband can't pay all these bills you collect simple you collect you travel you get money so we're not arguing semantics if you tell me that the fact that he says that women are not wired to work I disagree right we've moved away from those times but when we come to the point where there is now an entitlement which is really where we are now where men think that they are assessing you not just based on who you are as a person but what you bring to the table I disagree thank you I disagree let's break the table let's not talk about the table that's where I have a problem so the truth of it is there are strong women out there today and there are women who are making serious serious money but let me tell you what happens when that woman now says actually you know I have my money and my husband I don't really need your money then we start to manage the fragile male ego so you find that women that are working women that have their own money they still need to collect from their husbands so that their husband remembers to manage his ego so I don't see anything in that statement to be upset about because the fact is we are managing egos we are managing men who have the time you feel like okay I don't want to do this thing this way but because you are the head let's go but then when that head now decides that you know the neck must add to this journey I disagree I completely disagree I would say that in Delta State for instance the very rude shock that I had when I moved to the university my first year I was in shock like literally in shock I saw women early morning like that they entered their bicycles they were going to the farm the husbands were home do you understand so in that regard where he says women are not wired to work Nalayo see if push comes to shove and we know that this is what would require me to feed my family but if you are given a choice I will sit in my house I think if given a choice both sexes that's what you are saying I want this soft life but are women wired to collect and not work I don't think so it is nice to have it's a choice I have said oh okay I don't want someone who is struggling because I've passed my teenage years I'm in my late 20s and I'm working and I've been able to create a setting standard for myself which I wouldn't want to go below now that's me another female now can come and say oh there's this high school boyfriend I've had and we're moving together in stages we've gone to university we're selling love okay now today is only this small thing he can buy for me okay it's fine let's go together that's your choice if the girl has the choice if the man blows tomorrow she can decide oh you know what I want to sit down I don't want to work as well but to say that we are wired to just collect and not work I don't think so because if the man too given the opportunity would decide oh okay rich sounds that have fathers do they decide to work I don't know men so rich son who has not worked for his money and has his father's money you will follow that man why won't I follow him why can't I follow him why can't I follow him it's generational wealth now it's not money so he did not work he didn't do anything you think the generational wealth reach your children so the thing let me explain something I don't know how to explain it there's a satisfaction that comes to every man that is able to see that ah this is my money working for me you understand women are not wired that way to look at the man and say this is my money you look at yourself calm down I'm not talking about myself calm down I can look at my children and say this is my money working but I'm telling you that the way a man is wired he's wired to actually look at a woman lavish spend and all of those things so if a man is unable to do that he feels incapacitated fine so what I'm saying to you that is even if a man you know like you just said now he has his father's money as long as that money he didn't earn it he would still struggle with what do you call it identity crisis as far as I'm concerned a lot of them that imposter syndrome this is not my money it's the principle so yes I get you that if given a choice both sexes would not want to work as long as the money does not stop flowing but you see the frame of a man I think he can just sit like that because a man is a provider and that's his natural nature I also believe that I don't think if a guy likes you he wouldn't spend on you it's not even the reason why people would say some babes are gold diggers and whatever it's because you're probably a married man who is sleeping with a single lady and obviously what else do you expect if the girl is supposed to be trying to fall in love rather than I think it's obviously transactional no matter how much you want to think about it it's going to be transactional so that's different I mean you are a freaking married man most single guys are not going to say that and most single guys will just feel like oh the married men have raised the bar for us but they are meeting obviously so you clearly not encountered the married men whose wives don't see their money but you look at it in a very linear way I'm looking at it from my own experience of life from my own point of view it's a very linear way and the topic again are women are women wired to be like and not walk you are ignoring that we have addressed that we have moved past that point we have we have women work women get it done the point that we are on now is the woman herself and the type of man you cannot right you gave a couple of circumstances when in secondary school we fell in love we come up together it's fine you'll be growing it's like basketball whatever you get where you're going hallelujah that's everybody looking for that but you as you are now you're going to find a guy and he's now sitting with you and saying ok so we're going to rent a house and the rent is 4 million or 2 million or 3 million so how much can you put down or this is the school fees how much can you bring is that the conversation you want to have if I'm extremely buoyant I don't think it's a problem for you I get you now my friend let me come to you it is where we talk but are you there yes I am go ahead you are lost the conversation is just like I said women are wholesome people women have capacity we don't want nobody arguing that thing do you understand I don't think you're getting the wait now I don't think you're getting the perspective because you are coming back to that wholesomeness and all of that I need you to calm down and listen to that conversation again right if you look at women we are meant to be nurtured if you give me an option today that I know that I wake up I don't care about any deal you understand just sit down look pretty go to the gym keep fit and all of that I will pick that choice any day any time and that's the point the guy is trying to make that before you even decide to say you want to date someone or you want to put someone in like a permanent relationship be marriage or whatever be sure to understand that they are wired like that so that when the woman starts to ask for things or she's demanding something give her names that are not heard she's not a gold digger naturally I like all the good things in life let me tell you why I work hard I work hard because I don't want anybody to come and be looking at me when I'm buying something and they say where did you get that money from or I'm asking you for money you're asking me to bring a list for you and give you 10 reasons why I need to buy what I need to buy I've had a friend of mine that said that she needed to buy a bra and he also asked her why she needed a bra no problem she's not even walking around with a bra less like that do you get my point it can get that bad when you meet the wrong set of people so that's what I'm saying that if we are taking a way if we keep on happening on some things we'll take away the crux of the message that the guy is trying to talk about that's what I'm trying to say well I think we have a lover from Abuja then I'll come back to you normal hi good evening go ahead please go ahead you're live okay I want to I want to I want to contribute to your project we'll have to cut you off sorry I've said it when you call please turn off the volume of whatever device it is that you're watching because once we get that feedback it's actually difficult to concentrate so normal please I apologize for interrupting you but I don't want us to go back to that matter of you know your choice of you know taking an offense forget semantics and whatever let us focus on the crux of what he said if you were given a choice today would you do anything that you're doing would you just sit down and relax and you know probably read book go to school do all those things and somebody is taking care of your bills would you not pick that lifestyle any day anytime well each of us have different things that sort of I mean I like I said earlier I agree with the fact that women are women nurture women women I think he's back again I'll come back to you sorry go ahead hello are you there a lover okay go ahead normal okay not sure I'm going to finish this thought today but anyway the point being that I totally agree with what I have no odds and I was not arguing I was not saying I was in agreement with the fact that we all love to be taken care of to be pampered to you know to know that we are cared for really and should be told as well that other that things that also make you have a sense of fulfillment so some women can actually love to work not work in the sense that they are working on your suffering they are working they are doing something that you love to do so you would do it you know not in a situation that it is because of survival maybe issues or poverty or this and I mean this is part of what gives a sense of purpose in life so that was the perspective I was coming from that is not a case okay somebody else yes from Kaduna sorry go ahead just have your life yes go ahead please okay I'm enjoying your topic what my contribution is that when my when God created a woman to be a help made to the man he knows that the man is not perfect it's not perfect the man is not perfect wherever the man had some shortfall the woman is to complement the shortfall of the man so for somebody to say that the woman is supposed to be at home and waiting for the man to provide it is not it is not completely right you must you must complement where the man has some deficiency the woman will cover that area okay thank you so much Joseph for calling go ahead I wrap up your thoughts I think Joseph sort of capped what I was saying because when I even mentioned wholesomeness I didn't mean it from the place of oh that the woman loves to work and then wants to be I meant it from the place that the woman has it all so to speak where the man like he has rightly said is insufficient that's where the woman steps in because there are so many capacities that she can feel into naturally because that's who she is and not because it is something that is forced or we have now come to a transaction that okay this is how much of yourself you should bring into a relationship or into our marriage the woman is not in that that's not the capacity that she can feel she can feel much more so even when she is receiving she is still multiplying what she's receiving where she is working she's working with the giftings 100% with the giftings and with the talents that she has so she has probably a lot more than even a man can offer she didn't come with 100% she didn't come with a missing rib she came with complete ribs so she's got everything so in whatever capacity that you want her to feel she has it 100% absolutely let me take comments quickly ladies okay good evening my dear beautiful sister of water is saying with hashtag are women wired to collect and not work I disagree with clergyman because he doesn't know what he is saying in a nutshell he is trying to turn the women into lazy women and liabilities supposing a woman has a career to pursue are you telling me that she shouldn't I disagree with unoma and agree with uti collecting is not an insult and can never be my dear beautiful sister uti said it's okay to collect and work at the same time it's the responsibility of the man to provide for the woman but does that stop the woman from working women also should be regarded as breadwinners not only men man and woman must work hand in hand my name is Daniel always I'm sorry but it felt like he just contradicted himself in the whole thing I will take this one good evening my beautiful sister I don't believe in that man saying that women love to collect and not work if this is so why do some men stop their wives that are eager to work not to those women know the dignity of labour but were still deprived the opportunity though there were though there were some tribes in Nigeria that wired their daughters that way but I don't want to mention them you'll see them so complacent and don't really involve themselves seriously in either education or learning a trade or becoming artisans so there should be no blanket judgment of women that's from Mrs. Adene G from Ajah thank you alright so I have this one and it says there's no name here good evening ladies concerning today's topic I agree with Uwa women are not wired to work but to receive as for me I like soft life but when a woman needs to work then it is fine also some women do not work for money but to fulfill their purpose in life absolutely so I like the way that this last person cuts the message that a woman is working should not see that her life depends on it you understand her life especially when there's a man in that picture she's working only maybe to fulfill a dream or something right and guess what I get that part of where the man falls short the woman is supposed to just come in and help you stabilise at that point when you get back on your feet you shouldn't be expecting that you go into a restaurant or you go somewhere you're about to pay school fees you must start you bring 50% of the fees and all of that that's not how it's wired to be right if a woman comes in and guess what women they do it effortlessly without even you asking do you understand like if there is a problem and even if it is hundreds of millions and that is all they have in their account they will bring out everything to make sure that the home is sorted but when you now make it like a conversation that's where me I have a problem with right so no no no I'm not talking about you talking about the woman that you took her what's in the news but let's not argue again it's okay it's alright collect whenever don't be offended women are they have aspirations and ambitions guess what we would all fulfill all of those things but if you leave me I have said it before I will say it again I told you before I told you again so you're wired to not work I'm wired to work for passion I work for impact and what makes me happy but not that I'm working to save my life and to feed you so if someone is not married what's the person supposed to do I just lay down there and just wait for a man to come that's a different problem I tell you we said women we didn't even say wives no they talked about a man in relation you cannot relationship without the man being in the picture they have to be a man in the picture sorry okay they have to be a man in the picture in this picture I'm saying this picture we are talking about they have to be a man for single women is a different category of fish we will deal with that later we will deal with it later it's a simple context now he said it from the perspective of a man if a man is present in a woman's life then that is what it is you want Phantom man to take care of you if the man is not present so you are wired to work when you are single but when the man comes in you are wired to work you see I like experience is a wonderful teacher life will teach me more life will be good to me life will teach me I'm married don't start what you cannot do I said life will be good to me I said life will be good to me amen before we go before we go before we go you can interact with us further and more importantly follow all our engagements on social media like share and invite your families and friends to watch and follow the conversation if you missed our quote for today here it is again every woman can take care of herself perfectly but she still wants a man in her life who proves to her that she needs that she needs to be looked after and taken care of and pampered her and bring back the innocence of a kid in her life oh my god lord when we'll see you guys tomorrow at 8 p.m. as we bring another great conversation to your screen enjoy