 Yeah, so let's bring on Mike Montalto, Michael as I said as a partner at Accenture and Mike, welcome to the Cube. Thank you My co-host John Furrier, Silicon Angle So welcome. How's it going at EMC world for you? That's going great It's been an interesting morning so far got to hear Pat speak and do some live demos So some very relevant material all about the cloud data in the cloud Data's big. Data's big big data in the cloud. So we had Terry on us and he's obviously worked at Accenture So so he knew you. Yeah, all great Accenture is changing With the marketplace. Can you talk about? The delivery aspect because it's growing. There's a lot of demand for real proven solutions around cloud And the backdrop to the cloud is Amazon crashing This is the recent news PlayStation got hacked and then you got innovation in the application side from big data with a dupe To application frameworks. How do you guys handle that and now what's the current situation for you guys? I mean, I'll see this great marketplace, but Absolutely, and I think as Accenture has always done we invested in the innovation we invest in the research Whether that's with Accenture technology labs. That's out there ahead of the curve looking at the Hadoops looking at How do we take these technologies and apply them to our clients and specific client situations? But we're really being driven now Unlike before to come to the market not with just consulting services, but pre-defined offerings How can I take something like V block something like? UCS and say here's specifically how I can use it in your situation and almost have a Pre-made solution where it's add the requirements mix it up and then go forward from there now We should let people know Michael's background. He's you're a serious IT practitioner You were in the financial services industry JP Morgan Chase You were a prudential you used to work at a cloud service provider a Savas. So you really are Have deep knowledge hands-on knowledge. So talk about what's changed We typically in this industry have purchased infrastructure and stovepipes at least in the last 20 years, right? We buy servers. We buy storage. We buy networking. We have a storage admin and server admin, etc What's changing there and why and what's driving that change? Well one the complexity, right? Whenever we've had stovepipes whenever we've had IT and big IT It's been a big complex solution. It was it was early on in the data center big iron behind the wall You can't come in right? You can't do anything with it IT will tell you how long it'll take We saw the phenomenon of the internet coming in in the 90s and all of a sudden those systems were exposed And everybody was interacting with those systems We had lands come out and everybody was interacting with the lands and I can do some of these things on my own on the PC based environment The real big change now is the consumerization has driven that level of interactivity To the next step where people expect to be able to create an application on the iPhone We're expect to create an application that interacts with corporate data I can do this at home right generation y and the younger generation grew up doing it All right, they know how to make a mashup on their own and they're not willing to wait to hear IT Say it's going to take you months to get that application. It just doesn't work that way combined with the speed that business needs to move Doesn't work that way anymore So you have to respond you have to respond quickly and you have to find ways as an IT organization to decrease that complexity Thereby decreasing the cost and decreasing the amount of time it takes you to bring that solution to the to the market The disruption waves that Joe tuti's talking about we've seen these before and and for for us We've you know going back into the 80s and 90s. There was some pretty big inflection points that created a new services growth and We're seeing that now Can you talk about that? Yeah? I absolutely think we're at another inflection point right? One of the biggest and if we look back even before the internet right the inflection point was the PC the inflection point was Being able to do it outside of the walls of the data center right so we started to move things faster now The clouds doing it again right the cloud if I'm a developer and I want to get an instance up and running And I want to start to play with the dupe and I want to start to play with some of these technologies I don't need to wait for it. I take my credit card out of my pocket I go on to Amazon punch in the numbers and I've got a virtual machine up and running right I can load my Software on top of that and go the danger in that right is that and the discipline issues I mean the holes it's like switch cheese security security and if I don't control that or if I don't learn how to offer Something as at least as that fast right and is the least that good people going to do it on their own and then we have Failures right we have things that make the news from that perspective so normally we hear about how applications lead infrastructure and But I want to talk about how enterprise apps and the cloud are intersecting and the complexities that that brings it's not Simple with all that legacy infrastructure out there So can you talk a little bit about the intersection between enterprise apps and cloud and and what Accenture is seeing there? Absolutely, so you look at the virtualization phenomenon and that's an interesting Wave that's happened over the last couple of years because now I don't need a physical server I could just spin off resources and I think is a separate note You know it's interesting when we look at what that can do to an organization right? We had years where we went around trying to find servers under desktops and servers and closets, but at least they were physical I could see them. I'm doing the same thing now in many organizations. I've virtualized I haven't changed the way I operate and I can't even see these things right they live in my it organization There's nothing physical. They don't draw any more power. How do I know they even exist right? So you're creating a very interesting phenomenon there that you have to start to manage But you look at the applications and applications are moving with some of the technologies We've mentioned to take advantage of the cloud and truly become cloud enabled on the cutting edge But the laggard is a lot of our big ERP implicated applications are big enterprise applications You've got to do something with them It's going to take a while to change that application architecture and move to a cloud based architecture So what we're looking to do now with I think a lot of the private clouds and a lot of the cloud implementations Is have the cloud envelope them so that we can move forward take what's there today and apply that speed get that speed Get that agility get the flexibility that we need While the application architecture is quickly migrating with that Dave Dave I want to just break in here and just mention to Michael that we have 4,000 people watching right now live simultaneous We just dropped 300 people when you ask that question and then when he answered a pop back up to another 300 So we're at 4,000 simultaneous viewers right now So the folks out there that are watching are coming in and out So we have some people we're coming in and out So let's give a break here and I'd like you to share from your perspective being a center Which is a really an amazing company that there's a lot of knowledge Talk to people out there about the future and there are a couple issues that people are thinking about right now job retraining career advice What's hot and so a lot of the the geeks out there who are watching and people are the IT consumers There's a big role towards data science data scientists What's the hot areas? Where's the demand and if people want to be retrained? There's new skill sets What's required just elaborate if you can for folks out there sure absolutely when you think about the change And where IT has been IT has been about the infrastructure and about the enabling technologies The enabling technologies are getting simpler the enabling technologies are getting more prevalent through things like the cloud So you have more ability to create applications and to do things on your own and play with the technology Right anybody can create an iPhone app an Android app go through the process get it published and it's now consumable Is there money in that is that the long-term career goal? Don't know you know you depends how successful it is right? It's changed that whole dynamic But what corporations are looking at and where they're going to need to focus is understanding the data What data is out there and how do I harness that data to drive? different business Speaking of data we have four thousand three hundred users now, but Dave Raking news EMC just announced Hadoop distribution with green plum appliance So in the spirit of data and the folks watching out there you're seeing EMC now announced a product in silicon angle comm Has the story and wiki bun.org has our full analysis and this is something that we've been playing close attention to Dave At this data revolution. We were at Hadoop world in October. We've been covering data for two years We have our own data scientists on our team This is powering massive growth massive change a lot of uncertainty, but yet value What's your angle real quick on the Hadoop and then we'll jump right back Well, it's interesting I mean EMC clearly wants to get a piece of there's a gold rush going on right now in Hadoop and EMC wants to get a piece Of the action and speaking of gold rush Michael I wonder I mean you've seen that you saw the client-server trend You're in the middle of the cloud trend companies like Accenture tend to do a really good job of pivoting off a major Trends and an adding value in their own unique way. Are you seeing actually let me preface that There's a theory out there that says that the data and information the ability to package that and monetize that is going to be the new Source of competitive value as open-source software commoditizes traditional software like Microsoft software. Are you seeing? companies CIOs CEO thinking about data as a as a resource that they can monetize And are you guys organizing your business around that we're definitely seeing the trend where people are thinking about it as a Resource they can monetize with it has not been the case in the past right the data model was locked up It stood in a database now it's open and everybody's wondering how do I monetize that we're pivoting through that with our cloud practice We have a dedicated cloud practice. That's looking at those technologies. That's looking at how do I help our? Clients do that so there's definitely a pivot underway and a pivot underway not only for the data monetization But how do I have all of the technology follow that and move that into the cloud? So um so how's the emcee relationship working? I mean I know you're going to tell me it's great But can you give us some proof points? Start with it. It's great when we look at the the Major area where we've been I've been focused is with the VCE with the integrated technology and converged infrastructure It's a key technology that really helps us deliver value much more quickly for our clients no longer Do we worry about the stove pipes no longer? Do I worry about how do I put it together? But I start to think about Services what services do I provide for that enterprise application whose architecture hasn't changed and that's a key value today? That no one else is delivering in the marketplace So definitely a unique aspect of our emcee relationship What does that mean for your former colleagues who are IT practitioners? I mean let's say you're a storage administrator or a unix administrator or a server administrator Should you be sharpening your your skills and changing them and and if so to to what? I think it presents a great challenge for my colleagues that are storage administrators or unix administrators server network Because I'm forced now to think outside the box. I can no longer just be a storage administrator I have to think about what is the network impact? How does that work with the network? How does that work with the server side of the house? So it really opens up a world of learning for for that individual right and you know Let's them get involved in more things and get closer to the application Which is a much more interesting problem about how do I make a system work rather than how do I allocate lones or how? Do I route something through the data network or through the storage network? So I broadens their ability right to to do that opens up a world of learning and I think in general causes a shift To the engineering no longer my engineering things at deployment time I'm engineering things well in advance in a very structured manner so that I capture that service all the engineering in the service and then the operation side is Now much more automated and really operates in much more of a I need to right-click to deploy a service So the operation side is the side that's going to see some pressure and where you know I would want to be as a storage administrator moving upstream to that engineering and really understanding how these pieces come together One of the reasons people work with a company like Accenture is because you are independent you can give advice That's you know technology or vendor agnostic. We're what's your problem? Sort of where you start right and we'll figure out what technologies are best to deploy Having said that something like V block a lot of people talk about the the fear and this is not true Just for V block, but it's you know IBM HP Oracle whomever they fear lock-in. Are people still concerned about that? How does Accenture manage that? What do you guys tell customers that are worried about that lock-in factor? Oh, yeah, definitely still concerned about lock-in and about looking at you know Am I buying into a proprietary technology and am I going to be unable to move from this when you look at? What V block is V block is the integration of commodity components of things that are out there at the end of the day The workload is represented in the instance of the virtual machine that lives on V block So therefore it's portable and we see and we're working through Models that'll let us go from the private cloud which lives on a V block to the public cloud Which is leveraging the technology so I think that that fear is there But as you start to peel back and you look at that You can quickly dispel that and show how it gives additional value and how it actually enables you to go past that Proprietary lock-in of yesteryear. So we're here with Michael Montalto Accenture partner And we're talking about the changes in the industry the consumerization of IT. There's new notion of A V block which is this logical block of infrastructure that's deployed to service Applications think of it as a horizontal infrastructure as opposed to stovepipe infrastructure My last question for you Michael is what advice would you give to your your fellow practitioners out there that are looking at all these C changes? What would you tell them what should they focus on and and to help them succeed? You've got to focus on how to drive business value How do I move up and how do I look at how IT operates as a system as an ecosystem and how that relates to the business? If you're looking in that area, that's an area that is always going to require an engineering aspect right the human mind to Solve a problem that can't be automated that can't be replaced through another piece of software So really you know look at that ecosystem look at the engineering problem and solve the engineering problem And that's how you'll grow in your career. All right Michael. Thanks very much for coming on the Cube. It was great to have you Thanks for you. Thanks for your time