 There's a lot going on in this country with regard to reopening you see a number of states reopening and it seems as if they're very Clearly reopening too soon in my state for example in Oregon. We're reopening as cases spike Now I think that the governor Kate Brown has handled it adequately up until this point But you don't reopen as cases are going up. So You know, what do we need? I think that there's this sense that we have to reopen as quickly as possible And I get that because economically people are suffering, you know, this is going to cause them real pain Economically putting aside like, you know, the health risk, but if you were in Congress, what would you do? What would be, you know, the thing that you'd fight for? I know this is a very loaded question But how do we reopen and there's no perfect answer? But how do we reopen in a way to where we can kind of balance, you know, the economic risk? But also make sure that we're protecting people and we're not putting people at risk What would you do in you know as a legislator as a lawmaker? So this is a really great question because I was asked this very early on in March what we should do and what we should have done Is we should have gone on a full three to four week shutdown So imagine if you're taking the $6,000 on every single man woman and child and just given them the $6,000 With $6,000, you could easily get through an entire month with a full shutdown And if we had done a proper full shutdown, including very minimal Grocery store openings meaning that you couldn't go into a grocery store You had to pick up your basic groceries from you know the front of the door and you were limited to basic items Let's say right and if all of us came together and we went on a true shutdown for four weeks We couldn't have we could have beaten this faster So that would have been number one that I would have fought for number two There are three things that we could have done to extremely cut down Coronavirus very fast one is all wear masks all the time Everywhere and if we did this for a even a small period of time and wearing masks is uncomfortable I get it and I understand that this is a freedom of liberty because I believe in having freedom of liberty But if we all did it we could have gotten over this much faster if we all did it together for four weeks together Guess what? We this would be down to nothing So that's number two number three if we had scaled up our testing to a point that if you absolutely had to work If you had to be in a grocery store and you had to stop the shelves that you were tested multiple times That you had all the PPE that you needed that would have worked and then the last but not the least is contact tracing If we had put in proper contact tracing, which is what they did in South Korea and some other countries And they're doing it effectively if we had done these four things together Given people the resources to survive for four weeks wearing masks if you have to Absolutely, you know interact with other people contact tracing and extensive testing and we all come together do it the four weeks Guess what? We would be able to open up safely cases would be down and We would be back and our economy would be back much much much faster So that's what I would have advocated for and I would have done a no means test way of getting these funds to every single American And for those of you out there who you know, bring up this argument Okay, if you're a billionaire, you don't need $6,000 the government could have just given this money and then a year later Two years later on your taxes if you were a billionaire you could give back your $6,000, right? But the interesting thing is we could have done it much faster if we just gave everybody the resources they needed Come together and got it done and this is something that we as Americans should have done We're the most technologically advanced country in the entire world We have some of the smartest brains in this country It I can't believe that we didn't come together and solve this faster and show how it was done when countries like New Zealand Were able to do it and people complain all over New Zealand only has you know Five million people but take the United States and let's divide it up into five million sections. We could have done this guys Yeah, and everything you say is Exactly what I said in a conversation I had about Kobe a couple of days ago that if we all just kind of like Hunkered down for a good few weeks, maybe a month. This would be over We wouldn't be having this conversation and it really seemed like I'm disappointed because at first it seemed like everyone was on board This wasn't necessarily a partisan issue But as time goes on as people get more desperate and frustrated now we start to see the Partisanization of COVID-19 which is what we kind of touched on earlier, you know We see masks becoming less of a health issue and more of a political statement for some reason and you know Our government is just fully incapable of dealing with this I mean you bring up such a great point about the means testing thing We don't want to means test everything to death because we want people to be able to access these things Fast and quickly. We don't want people to know whether or not they will get it We want everyone to know that they that they'll get it and you know it the delivery of the stimulus has been a disaster I actually didn't get mine until like mid-May Had no idea how to get access to it. I didn't have help from my representative as well So it's complicated and it doesn't have to be I think we're you know Government is over complicating it and there's you know the combination of that along with the frustration from people and like you said It's it's not that difficult, you know, this is a pandemic It's something that those of us alive today haven't experienced unless you were alive during the Spanish flu You know you'd be over a hundred, but you know, it's something new but at the same time, you know People epidemiologists have studied this there have been you know responses that they've crafted to this So it's not like we weren't prepared But so we weren't prepared, you know, it's like there's I just find a difficult time coming up with excuses So to hear you say that in such, you know a common-sense way to lay out how easy it is It's refreshing to see which is why we have to elect you in the Congress