 This is the input first. The agenda is accurate. Right. That's correct. I changed. Yes. We'll go through the agenda and the order in which they are here. So first up on our consent. The agenda is three 39 time streets. I don't know. So this is recommended for consent. Have you had a chance to review the staff report? Do you have any concerns with the staff report? And what was included in there? I noticed something this morning that there was a. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I have an enclosed permit for the anti-cap ram. So it came in earlier today. And I have a point of red. Two-state close out. Great. Perfect. And does anyone on the board have an issue? Is there anyone else from the public here to speak? This matter. Let's see. I guess we have Sharon. Sharon, if you want to speak to this item, you can raise your hand. I kind of think she doesn't know. No, I raise Caitlin and Jeff. And it's. Okay. CP 23305 39 line street. I move that we have a page and dots. That's fine. Recommendations. Again. All in favor. I'm going to abstain because I got here in the middle. Sorry. It's a few minutes late. The next item on the agenda is 266 college streets. And you become a panelist. I'll start. Okay. Well, so we did three 391 street story. Next item on our agenda is public hearings, EP 23284 266 college street. And it's a public hearing type review of its renovation of existing building. Six story additional rental housing. Street. You're the applicants. And I just want to make sure that you're right. You swear that the testimony you're about to give in the matter of the consideration is true and correct. It depends on both of these. Yes. Yes. So before we do that, I make a disclosure. This is the old Y building. So two elements make one. My office is our caddy corner to that. I don't view this as a conflict of interest. And second of all, I represented community national bank. In a foreclosure action against the prior owners of these buildings. I was not involved in any sale transaction. To the current owners. I don't know that. I'm not sure if you're interested in that. My client. Was. Taking out when they purchased them. All right. So. What are you going to do? That's not. Um, well, uh, so gear, you're right. The posture is a theory. Owns it now. They purchase it. We saw that wasn't being managed. But it will help. So we call me. We ended up. So along the way, we figured out that the permits elapsed and they really didn't carry forward. At some point, they said, can you do it? So reluctantly, we started the diagram and so it was basically permitted as a six-story hotel. In the tech, they clearly were going to do how we tried to adhere to much of that. But the site here poses a lot of challenges, which we're going to be very looking into. That's why we needed the two extra stories. It's in the ravine, or a portion of it's in the ravine, there are urban soils, environmental issues related to the site, geotechnical issues because we're in the ravine. And also the buildings lie unconditioned for 85 or 60 years ago. And people can break in and do anything that you might expect to cause analysis. So we really can quickly work with the women going to the site. So I'm very bugly with the bugly architects. We designed the hotel that was permitted for the site previously and say I'm really happy that we're continuing to try to develop the site. As Bruce alluded to, there are a lot of things that make this complicated, difficult site to develop, part of the ravines, the ravine, the soils, the ones that were non-Ravine or non-submissions for this building. So we need to augment those. We have a historic structure that we are proposing to take down part of it, the part that housed the gym, which over time has been compromised through a number of closing up windows and various things. I think it's also why these things stop being quite as attractive as the gable-roofed part of the project that we are requesting to keep. And it also does not interact with the street in a way that is particularly nice or consistent with the zoning rules that are in the form-based code. But that said, we are proposing to keep the portion of the structure, which is the gable-roofed part that's on the corner of Paulin Street, South Union. And we're happy to be doing that, but that also has challenges of taking down part of the building, buying a new building into it. The building is required to be gelled by the zoning ordinance. This is another thing that is positive for the environment, but that's complexity for the project. And then lastly, there's very tightly constrained sites that are struggling this. There's little to no lay down room. So all that just to say that all those things add complexity and cost to the project. And so the hotel and this project both have sought to really maximize the amount of program that we have on the site as a way to offset those costs. Building this proposal takes a similar form of the hotel that is driven in large part by the form-based zoning as well as the requirements to get as much program as we can with this project. So I've been playing this video while I'm talking. I think it gives you a pretty good sense of what we're trying to do. I'm going to switch to a couple stills and there we'll see that it's similar to what we just saw. So you can see that the existing Y building on the corner is left really as it is. There are apartments proposed, but the whole project is apartments, which is actually consistent of the way the Y was used originally. But the ground floor of the existing part of the Y has three apartments that are just accessed from the existing doors. And then the rest of the project is accessed from entrances that are on South Union Street. And then on the upper levels, they tie into the floors of the existing Y. We're proposing to use a yellow brick with there are some sort of dark brick accents and then a reddish brick color cement panel makes up that central portion. Sort of working to get to this shot. One of the things we were trying to pick up on was some of the coloration of this church, which I always thought was really has yellow stone with gray accents. But we're trying to use a brick and gray accents to pick up on that. And then these two keys are from City Market, which architects don't really like to think about the backs of buildings, but this is the back of the building. I think technically it's not really within the form based zoning purview. So one of the comments that we got from the Decide Advice Report was that they felt like this side of the building could be a more attractive. And that's something that we are open to and are happy to look at doing that. We haven't come up with a solution for that, but it may be a little more patterning, breaking up the elevation more possibly some sort of public art. So with that, I will. You have questions? Question on the Decide Advice Report. The first floor on William Street, those apartments, I think have other activities out in the park that's on the first floor. Now the state looks over at some different kind of streets out in there, I'm not sure. And also the particular buildings. Yeah, so. The ground floor is largely apartments. Both College Street and William Street. Yes, this is open. I'm sorry, it's been opened up to the floor. And I just need to to look into. I was Scott, I was Mary's Project Scott, but I'll ask you. So this is on a form-based code. We've got our some line that we're supposed to be working on this thing because it's a checklist, but I thought there was some language about other activities on the ground floor was part of a form-based code. By this, I think that could be an early potential. I think there's possibility of an unintentional use to that sign. But it's not a requirement, a form-based code. I think what you're seeing is it would be a conditional use if we were to come back and do this for the Catholic, but we that first floor is not very efficient. So we may do that. It would require conditioning to use approval. But I thought what language in the form-based code was street activity was part of one of the goals. And I had it in the streets and having all the promises doesn't really do anything to activate it in the streets. My review is that you're allowed to have apartments and there's no requirement for it. I'm not really disagreeing with that. Sometimes I'm missing, but that's been my understanding. So you can see the ground floor here and what the code does require is that there are the entrances every 70B. So we have two entrances on South Union. Street. And there are apartments that basically the apartments bring the plan to take advantage of access to natural light. There is a lobby here and there has been talk of possibly having like a coffee and muffin shop here. And we may come back at some point. That's the host out of the navigation. It's not. It's not in. It's it's a conditional use. It makes this process a little bit more complicated. And Bruce doesn't own this property yet. He's he's trying to confirm that he can get permits to build something that's economically viable before closing out. So we've removed the cafe. It is the way of the street line of that process. And I'm not disagreeing with you at all. I'm just in the scheme of things and not the undesirable apartments being at high level from the street. The ones on College Street are much nicer, but there's an elevation there. The street does go down as South Union does go down as you go to the court. Another requirement of the court based zoning is that the ground level has to have a higher percentage of openings. So. Having a lot of glass here, apartment might be desirable. And if I'm not, but we're required to have a lot of quits. So. Union's home, 89. And I didn't I didn't really talk about it, but there are two levels of parking under the that goes or enter from College Street the same place that the hotel was proposing that. You can see it right at the beginning of the video. So that is on the College Street side, south of Hawaii. You're taking advantage of that substantial grade change to bring people down and create a parking deck road to the two levels of parking. Two levels. So there's that many five spaces. I think we showed that I so there's no parking requirement. And I would say that by the time we get all the columns and other messy parts of building and building in there, that we will probably be closer to 65. One thing so I know it was kind of brushed over, but the hundred and five long term parking spaces. Yeah, just says they would be accommodated in the basement. I didn't it's kind of if you had any details on. Sure. So. This this here is the existing basement of Hawaii and there's a long skinny area here now. Most most of this floor will be mechanical and it's storage. But in this area, we should be able to get 60 bites. And then in this corner of the garage, we've got two areas identified. One has 20 and the other has 30. So that's 110. By my map, that's a little more than. Yeah, is it is it all mounted? What was planned for how those will actually be there for storage? The way I was calculating this was assuming all mounted racks and a bike's 16 inches. But you can see that in some of these areas, there is extra room could have some more mounted racks. We haven't determined exactly. This is something we're going to use, but that was how I counted it. So I was curious on the upper floors of the original started building those are access from more addition. Correct. OK, so I was wondering that that was going to be problematic for, you know, but I didn't see any indication of an elevator in that original building. No, the on the ground floor, there are there are three apartments and there are two of them are access from the stairs on College Street. And one of them is access from the current ramp entrance. But then when you go into the new construction, there are two elevators and as you go up, they the floors and connect to the ones above. OK. And the reason for splitting the ground floor is that the the form based code asks for a 14 foot floor to four. And we like the taller floor on the ground floor existing. Why is it about six? So by doing that, we can actually lower the floor, the first floor of the new construction and because the street's dropping down, you can you can get it. So the problems with different levels can. As you as you go up, the building takes on a new shape. So this area in the middle is is open, yes, skylights that get light into the center of that ground floor. And then part of it will be a vegetative roof that we're using to to slow down some strong water. So with that, as you mentioned that, I was just looking at and wondering, I understand that you got this volume of scope that that you were looking for the additional scale of building and why I understand. But, you know, the way it looks from the street, it looks a little big. And I was just wondering if you had. Considered maybe stepping back from the street from the east to west and maybe utilize some of that open space that you have for it to get the additional apartment or scale that you needed. Is that just so I'm going to try to decide it or just looking for a way out. Well, so Bruce may need to speak to the economics of it, but, you know, really trying to maximize our room count. The. So stepping back means losing some rentable units. Is that as I was mentioning, maybe to take advantage of you know, the. Green roof and report for the public and empty space that could be apartments. Well, if you put apartments there, you're blocking windows that could be so. It really comes down to giving people access to natural light. No. Yeah, I generally don't have an issue with the question. The job will need these things. I do. I do agree with their sentiment of the West elevation and North elevation as well. Really, I think the grace with my tongue was not something I appreciate. But I think to me, tie it better and I'm not an architect. But I think changing the color palette on that as the A.B. sort of suggests to bring it more. I do like your yellow brick commentary. I work across the church. So you need color scheme that red and yellow matches. I'd like to see some integration on that on the West and one elevation. I think that breaks up the mass a little bit. As you as you see it. And I think that's maybe more consistent with. The hype. The other thing is that you go to the college. It's not great. Yeah, I have a few questions by your screen streetscape. But that doesn't sit right for this. I just want to understand. The video might. The product. I don't mean to interrupt. I'm going to say that the product that we're looking for the area that. It's not really checked for this. It's pretty good. It's a high pressure colors. It's a blue by respect product that. The colors are hard to capture, but they're they're actually. Soft and really. To my quite nice and a little bit pinker. What you're seeing. So I'm I'm here at you and I'm not. Well, I might think it's a great nation. That's really quite true. It's just expansive. Yeah, exactly. I think that's really what it is. But I think I I'm not saying that the material is wrong. But it's applied across the entire other western side. It comes across more monochromatic. The western up. There's a change between the north and the west. The west is monochromatic. And it's proposed as just being ethos at this point. And that's. That's really just a cost driven. But again, we agree. We we accept the comment that it could be more interesting and more colorful. And we're we're happy to address that. And again, we're sensitive to that, you know, you are going up and I get the developer math on the whole thing. And I'm happy to see the project moving forward at the building. It's a desperate need of. Reuse and it's not currently serving the city. It's not currently serving the public and to see it redeveloped. This is a nice way to do that. We need housing, so good to go back to the College Street and Elevation. Yeah, that's that's cool. Any one of them. So that's one of the best. What's the material on that corner there behind the building? What's that tough for looks like siding here? Yeah, I suppose I was inside. Any reason, again, I'm not critical, but what is the reasoning for that differential between the material that you're using on floors? I would say one through five and four, six. The top floor does step back some. And which is nice. The attempt was to have a differentiation between the lower floors and that. Both it's partly color and also probably texture. The corn installment that's at the fifth floor is a dark color and then across the top is a light color. So that there was an attempt to try to make the top through largely through the use of color less heavy kind of posing. There's also this metal trellis and balcony. There's two of these structures that are applied over the form of the building. So those are working the color of the supper floors. We agree with DAB's condom color breaking up in the house. The building didn't have enough time to put something together and run it by me in the previous sense of the evening. It happens. It's okay. I'm just kind of, I mean, I think it actually worked. I've done West facade or something like that. And I'm, this is outside of our purview apartment plans, but a lot of apartment plans seem to have interior spaces for the kitchen and living areas that don't have access to windows. And it seems a deficiency plan as it exists today. Do you plan on tweeting it? It's not our, I don't, and we don't get to comment and critique the actual interior plan. So we can say these things and don't have to listen to it just seems like it's your spaces to live in with access to life. We agree with running out of window counter. Yeah. The numbers and programs where animals have to those situations. It's a faithful ability to get along with people. So one of the things that obviously talks about with the confirm that hotel was traffic and trick-or-treat operation in this corner. We've changed the parking ban a moment ago. 65 spaces is pretty good for, you said, 90 units or something like that. And I saw in the staff board that they were committed to the transportation demand and management strategies that were conditioned. Right? Right. Twenty-two of those are students. In other words, yeah, that people, that people over there. And Peter, are you here for the trip generation discussion next week? Generally. Yeah. We'll change the plans of my day today, so some of that crap I have prepared. Okay. Listen, take care of me. Yeah, if you're sure enough. Um, less than the hotel or less generally along with Peter Spire, VHB, civil engineer. Generally the difference as it relates to the streets is the hotel had its entrance on College Street, elevated platform entrance that was being added on the building. Now the College Street side really is a primary entrance that's going to maintain that consistent set of stairs that's there at the two primary entrances are now on the street. So you'll see on our site plan as well, a little bit more focus has been placed there. There's paper, tarot, and something like that along the union, just to kind of reflect that change of main entrance from the previous project. And are those bumpouts in the city right of way? Yes. Okay. Are those part of the project? Or scope? The city's controls. Well, I guess it's DP. We've been coordinating with DPW. Ultimately, they obviously have the final say. By the way, the building itself is just about up to the property line. Yep. Everywhere. So we're really reconstructing that streetscape in the response of the fact that we'll keep the big column to build this addition. But that is the city's call. So far, we've been talking with them and have not received any comments regarding those bumpouts or any negative comments on it. So we're on track. On the streetscape, so drawings that we have here, I see three trees. And on this one, I saw a little more, a little plan of grasses. I would just say this is our opportunity to be a little bit more interested in the streetscape with whatever landscape we come up with. Just some seasonal landscape of some sort. Trees is great. It's better than what's not there. Yeah, we did update the plan, which in fairness was uploaded to the open golf site first thing Monday morning. So if you're reflected. But we did receive that same comment to conservation board about trying to add some more material. So there, there were four trees at that point. And we've since added, but you can see now panning by support amount of grasses and perennials in the tree beds on College Street. So some more material has been added since the site plans that we're going to be out right now. So like moving out to be from that made south street entrance. And stuff. I think it'll probably be from that entrance right there. Yeah. That's the one that goes right into the elevators. Yeah. Our site plan in the right away. They all going to go all the way down. One goes on. Stretching. From the architecture point of view. Well, the. I'm not. I've always looked at street, which is. You know, avalanche guards or ice guards. I snow down after there. Is that going to be adequate? How are we going to solve that? I don't have, I don't know exactly, but I know that. That's a problem that needs to be addressed. And, you know, I think that it's. More. More effective snow guards on the roof and better insulation. I mean, those are the few things that I think will go a long way. But yeah, it's the, that's a well-identified. Danger. I just wanted to see the, where that needs to go. Yeah. Yeah. The plant is long. The building will. You'll read that. Let's close. It's not even in the audience here to speak on this project. Hands anyone on soon who's here to speak on this project. Okay. Okay. Sharon, do you need to get. Sharon, I'm going to swear you in. Okay. You swear to tell the truth. And all truths under the pains and penalties of perjury. I do. Okay. Or yours. Okay. Thank you. I, I was unable to attend most of the DAB meeting. And I find that unfortunate, but. I have, I've been following this. This site for a long time with the hotel when I was a city counselor with Adam roof. And now to this. Proposal. And I want to thank Bruce Baker. I'm going to thank. And Claire. And for coming forward and hopefully. Making this into a wonderful edition of housing. Much needed housing. But I do have some comments about it. The first has to do with the submission from the HB. And the second has to do with that. And I do have some comments for the historic perspective. And I really wish that the city would. Would take a more. Approach that would have some neutral party rather than the developer be responsible for bringing forward that perspective. I find that. That's not a reflection on just this project. It's just a generalized reflection. I feel that the additional floor. Which now VHB says has really little or no impact on the historic structure. I disagree with. I feel that that really dwarfs the. The old Y building that is preserved. And I understand the gym is being removed. I, I was on the Y board. I was in that building all the time. I'm very familiar with it and all its additions. And watched its demise. So, but anyways. And I have no issue with the pool section. Not being considered. I mean, it's historic, but I don't think that's a good position to that at all. But I do. I am concerned about that additional floor and I understand. Although I, Bruce, I'm not a developer, as you well know. I am concerned about how that looks. I don't like the siding. I think that light colors always make things look larger. Dark colors make them less visible. But I do like the fact that it really detracts from the historic building, especially from the college street. When you're looking at that beautiful building. So I'm concerned about that. And I guess I wanted to say that. With the hotel, the hotel was going to have a population, obviously that was going to be transient. They'd come that stay and they'd leave. And I was hoping that that would be, I was hoping that that would be, and I know that the DRB can't. Mandate anything, but I was hoping that, that the developer would consider. If it isn't already in the mix, having some owner occupied. I think that when you. Integrate something into an existing neighborhood. You want to make it better. And you want to help potentially deal with a weakness. And one of the weaknesses in ward eight in this section of the city. Is that there are very few owner occupied properties. I know that because I work for the census bureau and I'm in the city all the time. And we know that anyways, from demographics. So it would be wonderful if there could be some owner occupied component to give some stability to that. That new neighborhood that's going to be become part of the existing neighborhood. Let me just look at, I wrote down stuff. So I was hoping that I'd remember everything. I'm not trying to take too much of their time either. I, I, I, you know, I'm online and I know that that's not something that the DRB favors. And I know that I was one of the people that requested having the hybrid method. And I do agree with the comments made at the end of one session. Where Brad said that the audio isn't wonderful. I didn't understand besides the economics of it, why that said that additional floor had to be there. I know you can get it because of the affordability component, but I missed perhaps what other. Reason made that necessary. The thing that I would also want to mention is that. I was hoping that maybe that floor wasn't there. I was hoping that maybe that we would do something not only for housing, but for the environment. And maybe consider having that roof be a green roof with maybe some gardens. And that would soften, take some of the heat from the concrete. We need to start really talking about this, even in housing, even in structures that. We need to start with a reasonable budget. We have to start really addressing this. With everything that we do. And I'm, I really feel very strongly about that. And I didn't know if you did have some owner occupied. You know, people would potentially pay more for access to the upper floors for view and for perhaps the garden. So that would help deal with the component of the affordable unit. So I'm just throwing that out. The addition, you've already talked about the colors. I think the side that is not the side that faces, not the back of the building, but the north side, that wall of also, I didn't know whether you could put like a balcony here or there. I think something that would make it a little more interesting. I think that would be wonderful. Or some kind of detail that wouldn't be everywhere, just sporadic that might be affordable. I'm trying to be, I'm trying to suggest things that would make it. Make it more interesting, but not break the bank either. Let's see what else. I think there's one other thing, the green roof. Okay. Okay. Thank you for addressing the bicycle parking. And I am going to assume that there is an elevator down to the old, the basement of the old Y. That will be able to accommodate a bicycle so that people can bring their bicycle down or I'm not sure how you access that basement. And I don't know, maybe you accessed it from the garage, the underground garage. I don't know, but I was interested to know how that would happen. I know when I went and saw Eric Farrell's projects, the biking, the bike area and storage area was wonderful. And they actually even, and I'm not suggesting you do this, Bruce, but they actually even had a place where you could rinse off your bike and then hang it to, you know, get off the mud and hang it. But I think that that's great. And if you do do something on the first floor, I think common space sometimes brings people together that live in the building. I'm not talking about people from the street, which is what Brad or someone else was mentioning. But I think common space where people can come and, you know, either work to get out of their apartment. And you can get to know your neighbors. So I encourage you if you end up going in that direction to consider something like that. I know with Eric's project, Cambrian Rise, it has worked well. So anyways, that's it. Thank you so much for listening to me. I appreciate it. Thank you. Welcome to respond. I mean, the easiest one to deal with is the last one, your common space. We have a lot of internal space that clearly is trying to activate the skylights that we haven't really developed an internal program for. There's a gem and a sauna, but we really do want to provide some breakout spaces for people who realize for a lot of people work from home. So we'd like to provide some smaller areas that are enclosed. If we did have a half bay, then we would consider that space to be places where people sort of need food. But that's down the road. On the sixth floor, we have a common balcony. Also, that's in the U shape. The building and site challenges are really what dictate the expense in the added floor. Economically, I think you look at why this site has laid, why did it for so long is that's essentially the reason there's so many site challenges and building challenges. That to make it financially work. Can't really do it. So I think what happens here, and I think what we're trying to do here quite frankly is that here we try to come back to the hotel and try to do this again. We haven't been able to figure out, even with this program that we can exactly do this. Because interest rates are rising, we fix our position, construction costs are going up. So we're taking some risk here and we're hoping we can do it. I don't know if you've heard of this program, but any less. As the owner occupancy, one of the most difficult things is to predict going into this, what the market will be able to do. And construction costs. But to determine now whether or not you could sell and then work versus rent. There's a hard call. We've seen it revised a few times over and building and rentals, building and x, walk, he is the hotel. So I don't think you even have that. I mean, I would not want. I'm not sure if you have that regulation. I will say that we're going to have our rental, you know, inacs our uses, which I'm really called out, supportive. We attend out only 24 hour property managing their and a recent office there. cases, 24 hours. That. I was just gonna note that we have that with aже grower state structure preservation. Well, They, we haven't said anything normal, but they expressed support for the building and thought that the design did a good job of allowing the existing part to stand and be read as, as itself. I do too. Thanks. There's a lot of work to do. Inside. Well, I appreciate this vision. I'm sure the board has any more questions for the applicant. So I would close the public hearing. Great on this later tonight. Thank you. Next on our agenda is I'm assuming we're doing this together. No. Yeah. Okay. So, I'm assuming we're doing this together. Switchback. Okay. So we're reviewing this together. Raise your right hands. I'm assuming we're doing this together. I've been forced to start. I've never done anything like this. So, For who are you? So I'm bill chair and I'm the founder of such. Okay. So, you know, I guess that's when I have to tell us, tell us what you want to do. Okay. So what we want to do is. We moved from. Starting with $5,000 for a 21 years ago, we took over the ownership of the building last year. And so we're trying to give it a little. 40 year old building. And our tenants and the, the old brick building in the corner. And we're looking to take this property and. Move our current tab room, which is at the back end of the building. Bring it up. To the crime where it belongs. So I'm driving down. There's that large green. You know, I've asked senior consultants. I'm already insides to turn it. There's that large green expanse. Now you currently have your. Indian food truck. And there has been a. Cornel. Cornel. And then, but then. So this would be over by like where the. Glass corner. And I can see here. So it's actually. No. Farther. Farther back. Right. Okay. So, so, but it's, it's a, I would say it passed the glass. Yeah. Grass expense. Yeah. So rather than being right off of Flynn Avenue, it's off of the, the entrance. Road into 180 plan to order. Company. Yeah. So that. Yeah. So that land is leased. By us. And then the rest of the property is owned by us. And you know, you know, you know, six building. I think. The corner that is the only thing that existed. The rest of the building was built. And. Turned that into a nice full service restaurant, which we don't currently have the ability to actually make. We just have. The condoms. Yeah. So that land is leased. By us. And then the rest of the property is owned by us. It gives us an opportunity to. Take a 1906 building. I think. The corner that is the only thing that existed. The rest of the building. I think. We just have the condoms. And. Yeah. Yeah. So, and that's, that's where our industry is right now. Your company shows it to show us that every day. Watch folks want to come in and show on something while they're. Exploring here. Great. And then the. The big green space area does give us. The opportunity to. To have community events and stuff like that. We just this summer. All. Every Tuesday in July had a charity, charity drive. Out there for. The school. The school. And then into a flood relief. Yeah. And what's going to happen in the town. Space. The old tavern space is going to grow. We don't know. But it is. It will not be a town. It won't be a tap room, but it might become a private land space. You may have to that. It's not connected though, right? Two spaces. It'll be two different. There's already connection between the two buildings now. The northern, the northernly building there. Yeah. They're attached, but they're not. You can't travel between them. Without going outside. Can't get it. Exactly. It's good for permitting. Restaurant sampling. I think. Billy. Yeah. I think just a category. Bill is saying, you know, this building was destroyed by the kids. These people in cohesive factory. Got chopped up and about around 2000. And then we've kind of, you know, we're back at 100% ownership of it. And so we've got a lot to do with that. We've got to sort of, you know, take hold of that, that title back together with the building being in the front. And over the last few years, you know, at landscaping, taking down the beautiful channel and fence that was there. You know, neighbor's evolved, and that's like, since we've been there. Out in our windows and greenhouse that you are referencing. And we're only trying to. I consider that he's building kind of a gem in the property with the history and it's sort of been. It's been an operating business, six or three or whatever. So we're excited to do all that new fencing on that yard that you've been around referencing. So that's Bill said that yard it's kind of a weird property line but the yard is leased from LJC that's the acronym you saw and so we're going to replace the fencing in there that has kind of fallen apart and get some stormwater remediation and all of the kind of things in there and that's a long-term lease there's there's um we submit some information about it into staff and there's a question I'm wondering so anyway my name is Paul but we're a science engineer we're working with these guys on the project there's like small problems you'll ask about that you can cover it a lot quicker and then let you guys get questions yeah so in general yeah so as Bill and Gretchen were saying other ideas they kind of take that take that nice corner brick building move the tap them over there get it a little kind of away from the uh kind of it's almost a backup house where it's now next to the fuel depot so I think this is a much more inviting space connects it to kind of connects it better to the city itself you come down to Clinton Avenue kind of a more lively area so I think the intent is good um with that we want to get people in there so there's some changes going around the building some new sidewalks kind of north side um two connections on south side including the ramp the way the grays work out you get a nice gentle ramp on that southeast corner actually yeah southeast corner and and that brings us up to some patio level up around the east side of the building and and also the south it's kind of low really we're like 24 28 inch highest point so just kind of that's well separation to be gonna nice just give people a little bit about just feel a little connected and it is an entry best fuel that they'll connect to that's being added on the east side um so with those things you know we're still using the same access coming it's shared access um and improvements are you know we're going to rebuild that parking lot and um add a sidewalk on the south side adding some bike parking on the south side that you see down it's that little finger that comes down and then some landscaping improvements but which is the plan right now so infill for some of the trees providing shade the parking lot those are red maples those three red large circles there a river bridge at that island that's that gate green gate kind of at that center a little bit further north and then some perennial and a little bit of supreme a little bit of our plantings around the building the north side typically in the east and the south to kind of pretty that area and get people a little better experienced on the same day so with that you know we ran a little bit of impervious surface not a lot um and with that we've done uh including to the west end of the island closest to the building they're putting in a small ground weapon right so more treatment for that um and a little bit infrastructure that goes around with that people working with change charade we've got our we have a paper man we don't put more chance for the letter just um realize we hadn't actually submitted final documents to change but he was good in concept um and look at that in we're just kind of holding off over the neighboring prop grows and make sure that things align with what they want to do so I think we're all good there I think the plan is pretty clear okay we're going to push on the plan stance okay my reader right going to east side the plan turn and uh a bar outside bar my thing stools outside there I'm just trying to do it if that work well yeah um so there's kind of standing room uh standing level uh that's the east side of the patio if you get like a trellis or something happening above it uh not on the east side on the south side we'll have a trellis top so I get a few of them gathering there and people sitting at stools at those powders on the table waiting on them correct they might have a high chair or something we're looking at like the way like zero gravity is actually kind of in a sort of sitting area we're like a walk-up service we don't kind of think so or there's been greater and it's out of the boat we have we have okay you have to take this just have a box and there's new signage right yes so the signage is um yeah as we say I just want to make sure it's a little bit any other questions from the board okay one jc look at this friend so I live in this area people want to go to both switch back in bbcoe and I know um at bbcoe the the short term bike parking there can be pretty full and and so that's problematic I know there's also bike parking at your current tap room and stuff um but you know just wouldn't be aware that may be a little light is my feeling especially if you're adding in such yeah I think we're definitely for events you know we've got we add each other that's stuff but that's that's a good one so we're excited we'll do a walking bike for you like to us yeah and eventually we'll be able to just um okay well so jeff that is hand up oh jeff sorry I couldn't see your hand scott sorry it wasn't about the presentation I was just trying to get promoted back to the panel so when you all go deliberative I'm still involved we have a couple people online nobody's raised your hand you want to pipe in on this item do you want to say something about a new tap room everybody's raised their hand all right we'll close the public hearing thank you thank you thank you thank you all people so quickly we'll ask them I think that's our agenda so with that recording stopped