 Everyone, good morning and welcome to Lillian's Vegan World where we go in and explore the wonderful and fascinating world of veganism. Today I'm so excited to introduce you to my guest, Sandra Pauling. Good morning. Good morning. Thank you so much for joining today. Thank you for having me. You know, I've actually been wanting to get you on the show because you are not a vegan, right? I am not a vegan. And not on a plant-based diet. And not on a plant-based diet. Okay. But you look amazing. Thank you. I shouldn't say but. And you look amazing. Thank you very much. So I wanted to chat with you, Sandy, about how it's not only the food that you eat that is important for your health, it's about the lifestyle. Yes. So judging by the way you look, you obviously work out. Well, we're so lucky we live in Hawaii. So outdoors, everything's outdoors. So the beach, good walks, hikes. Nice. Yeah. So do you have like a sort of regime that you follow, a fitness thing that you follow? Nothing. I power walk. I live in Kailua. Okay. So I walk in Chanted Lake. Is that near the beach? Sure. On the weekends I do walk to the beach. We're about five minutes from the beach. Okay. But on the weekends I walk up to Lanikai and back. And that's a good seven mile walk from where I'm at. And nothing like walking along the ocean and just the view, the scenery. It's beautiful. Yes. And we're lucky, honestly, living in Hawaii, as you said, to have all of this around us and to take full advantage of. So as you know, I'm all about the food and the plant-based, especially the plant-based diet. So people ask me all the time, like, how do you keep fit and that sort of stuff. But again, like it's not only what you eat. It's all about getting out there, moving about, getting your body. And you have to stay, you have to stay in motion. Yes, you do. So fitness does increase growth and development, prevents aging, strengthens muscles and the cardiovascular system and is good for maintaining a healthy weight or of course, you know, to lose weight as well. Exercise improves overall health and well-being and is fun. Yes, it is. I just saw a photo on your social media that I thought was so amazing. Can we have a look at the first image of Sandy surfing? Sandy, where was this photo taken? So this was in Haleva and doing a little surf lesson. It was so much fun, great workout, really good workout. And how long were you surfing for? A couple hours. Wow, that's a long time. It was a long time. But oh, you slept so good that night. Very nice. I'm guessing there's a lot of core work involved in surfing. With the paddling? Yeah, there is. And you have to have the balance when you get up there to stand up. But it's a great workout. But more importantly, it was fun. Yes, and you're getting out there. You've got the sun, the workout, the water. It's an overall like really great way to, I guess, have fun at the same time. Right. It went with the group of girls and it was just a great day. Nice. You're what we would consider a hot babe. Grandma. I'm a grandma. I know. I actually didn't know if I could mention that, but you are a grandmother. I am. I have three beautiful granddaughters. You don't look like anyone's grandmother. Well, I don't look like my grandmother, that's for sure. Oh, okay. Whatever you're doing, you're doing it right. Thank you. I always joke and say that I need to stay in shape because I want to run around with my girls. Yes, that's a great way to look at it. You're out there three, five, and ten and that's a lot of energy. Yes, you do. I think what you do now, how you treat your body, what you feed your body, is going to pop up later on in the golden years. Absolutely. That's why now it's a good time to start rethinking, you know, your whole, you know, the way you eat and how you take care of yourself. That's it. And how you take care of yourself. You really have to listen to your body. Yes, you do. So, Sandy, there's another really nice photo of you hiking, I think. Hiking or taking a walk? I was on my walk up to Lanikai and I jumped up to, I was actually, I jumped up to take a picture of the water and my girlfriend and her husband came up and they snapped the picture of me. Nice. I love this photo too. You just look like you're having so much fun soaking in that very important vitamin D as well. It just feels good to be out there. So, what kind of food do you eat, Sandy, on a regular basis? Do you eat a lot of meat, a lot of seafood? I eat a lot of fish, a lot of vegetables. I like salad. I do have red meat when my body craves it. And that's, like I said, I listen to my body. There are times where I just need a burger. So, you don't deprive yourself of anything? No, I don't deprive myself. But it's everything's in moderation. Yes. But a lot of salads and fruit. Yeah, red wine. Well, red wine's also, they say, a glass a day. It helps keep the doctor away, so that's something you might want to continue. Well, I'm sticking to it. Well, I always feel great, like the food I eat doesn't make me feel bad. Any times I feel a bit dodgy or a bit off is the day after I meet you for drinks. I don't know if that's like coincidence or has something to do with what goes on. I don't think that has anything to do with me. So, it's interesting because you actually have tried one of my seven course dinners. I did. And it was amazing. Thank you. It was so good. And what was so nice is I didn't have that sluggish feeling, but I was full. Right. And it was great. Yeah, it is filling. And as you notice there, it's still, there's so many misconceptions about what vegans eat. So, I wanted to show you a little video about, of the food that I've cooked in the past few months. So, let's take a look at this video of what vegans really eat. That's a cheesecake. That's delicious. Some Japanese food in there. Vegan cheese that I make. Another cheesecake blueberry. Fondue, cashew fondue. As you know, I cook a lot of Japanese because of the 30 years that I was there. Right. And so many flavors. Yes. That's what was so nice after the meal that you prepared for us. It was, we did not miss a thing. The cheese sauce, everything was so flavorful. Thank you. I'm glad you felt that way. No, thank you. We loved it. So, there's lots of colors going on. They say you eat the colors of the rainbow, don't they? Because you're getting all those, you know, nutrients from, especially the dark, leafy greens and the reds. So, I do actually think about that when I'm preparing food for myself. I like to make sure it's colorful. Colorful. It just makes you feel good. It does. So, there you go. As you can see, we really don't just live on salads and, you know, celery sticks. So, the vegan food is becoming popular, especially here in Hawaii too. You see the vegan restaurants popping up. Exactly. Here and there, yeah. But it's the food, the meat substitutes. I didn't even know. Yes, that's right. You came over to our home and we had a vegan barbecue. Yes, we did. And I did actually show that on my show, on my first show, the beyond burgers and beyond sausages. So, there is definitely the vegans are not depriving themselves of flavor or foods that they used to eating and to create. And even the texture was like the real thing. Anybody out there that is, you know, apprehensive because of that, they've got to try it. Oh, definitely. Definitely. So, today is actually Good Friday. Yes, it is. And I know that a lot of people who, I know a lot of people do not eat or abstain from eating meat or land animals during Lent. So, there's a period where just leading up to Good Friday and Easter that a lot of people, you know, depending on their religion, don't eat meat. Right. And some actually don't even, go as far as don't, you know, don't even eat fish. So, what is the one thing that everyone's going crazy for eating around Easter time? Egg. And I know that Sandy, you love eggs too. I love eggs. Okay. So, you might be interested in this next video I'm going to show you. Okay. It's a substitute for eggs made from tofu. This is one of my recipes. So, let's have a look. Check it out. Yeah, it's a tofu scrambled egg. One thing here, you do not have to give up your favorite egg recipes when you go vegan. Check this one out for scrambled eggs using tofu. It really does look like scrambled eggs, doesn't it? It really does. That yellowish color comes from turmeric. Okay. A little bit goes a long way. So, it's not overpowering in flavor at all. Just mushrooms, green onion, a little bit of olive oil. You could substitute the oil for vegan butter. There goes the tofu. Nutritional yeast is something that's used in a lot of vegan cooking to give food a cheesy, nutty flavor. Oh, is that right? And it has a lot of B vitamins, in particular B12. There's kale, adding more nutrients there. A little bit of non-dairy milk. That was soy milk, actually. This literally, this dish takes less than, it takes about five minutes and it's ready to go. And it looks, you know, it looks like you've slaved over it. Yeah. In the presentation. Oh, actually there's, yeah, there's been no slaving over this dish. Look how pretty that is. It's so quick and so simple. Colorful, tasteful. So this is something that I do believe a lot of vegans eat and you know, add some chilli sauce if you like to slice things up. Delicious scrambled eggs on this sandwich is a really nice too, Sandy. I've put some cheese on top and melted them in the oven. Oh, that looks delicious. There we go. What do you think? I think it looks great. So have a try. I've made you a little sandwich to try. This is actually the recipe that we just saw and I've added some vegan mayonnaise to it and put it in a sandwich. Okay. So the vegan mayonnaise. New one on you. Yes. The vegan mayonnaise is available everywhere actually in Hawaii. Very difficult to find in Japan. But what do you think? Now you know that it's not egg. But it tastes like egg. It does. It tastes like egg. I have actually fed this to people in Japan and not told them it was made from tofu and they had no idea. You know, if you hadn't told me differently, I wouldn't have known. Yes. So there's something. That's good. There's something you can try. Look at that. Do you eat tofu at all? Mm-hmm. Okay. I see it's a... There's tofu dishes like tofu in restaurants here as well. So a lot of people are eating it. But then there are a lot of people who worry about eating soy products. So I think... You know, there's so many different... You hear different things like soy. Yes. Isn't good for you. And then you read that soy is good for you. Yes, that's right. So I just think it works for you. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, I never tell people to go out and eat soy or not to. That's a personal choice, whatever you decide to put into your body. But I can tell you, after spending 30 years in Japan, that the whole Japanese cuisine is based on soy. Yes. From the soy sauce to the miso soup that they eat on a daily basis. Yes. And then, you know, miso is incorporated into everything. Yeah. So including, obviously, not miso, sorry, the soy is also... Tofu is eaten, you know, two or three times a day there. And they have one of the longest longevity. The longest they live. Yes. They have long lifespan. So the soy...the soy debate, yeah, it's interesting. I myself eat a lot of soy, including soy milk. And I like soy milk. Yes. I tried it for the first time at Starbucks a couple of years ago. Okay. I'll just try a soy latte and it was actually really good. It has like a nutty taste to it. 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I'll bring you information about the things in security that matter to keeping you safe, your co-workers safe, your family safe, keep our community safe. We want to teach you about those things in our industry that, you know, may be a little outside of your experience. So please join me because Security Matters. Aloha. Welcome back, everyone, to Lillian's Vegan World where exciting chats about veganism happen right here at the Think Tech Hawaii studio. I'm here with my guest, Sandy Pauling, who's a great friend of mine. Not vegan, but very, very happy, healthy fit. And it's great having you on the show, Sandy. Thank you for having me. Thank you for tasting. You've done a lot of tasting, actually, with me. Did you eat vegan food before we met? So, vegetarian, not so much vegan. So, the vegan is new to me, obviously. What's something that stands out that you've tried with me? Something I made or... Oh, everything you've made. Thank you. But the last... What stands out? Okay, so the first night you made the seven course meal for us, everything was so good. Thank you. But this last one, we did the cookout. Yes. And you did... It was the tofu with the greens. And it had a little spice to it. Okay. And that stir fry was so easy to make. I'll have to give you the recipe. But yeah, again, tofu is just a... I think tofu is one of the... for me, one of the most important ingredients or products that I consume. So, I wanted to talk to you a little bit about lactose intolerance. So, lactose intolerance is basically the body's inability to digest lactose, which is the main ingredient in the main carbohydrate in dairy products, also called milk sugar. And I didn't know this Sandy, but while I was researching this lactose intolerance thing, I went online. And every study that I saw came up with the same figure, which is that in America, Americans, there are about 65% of people that are lactose intolerance. And they're saying that the numbers are actually more. People just haven't been diagnosed or don't know. I wouldn't be surprised. And then when it comes to Asian Americans, they're saying in the 90% range of people that are lactose intolerant. Is that right? That's interesting. So, I'm learning as well as I do these shows, so it's interesting for me too. So, if you are lactose intolerant, you may experience abdominal bloating, diarrhea, flatulence, gas, even nausea and vomiting in some cases. So, it makes me think like when I see people eating ice cream or big shakes, like milkshakes and stuff, and after you see them sort of going, I don't feel well or my belly's playing up, stuff like that. So, that's a sign that you could be. I'm not saying stop eating dairy or anything, but maybe just be aware of whether you are having those symptoms. Exactly. Get tested. If it's happening, like the bloated, the gas, the not just overall not feeling well, go get tested, have it ruled out. Yeah, for sure. Do you suffer from any of these symptoms after eating dairy? No, I don't. Lucky for you. So, here are some substitutes that you can try if you are feeling that you may be lactose intolerance. And all of these products I'm about to show you are lactose free and cholesterol free. So, let's have a look at the first image. And this is grated parmesan, go veggie, cheesy bliss. So, as you can see, non-GMO, no cholesterol, lactose, gluten free, 30% less fat. This is a soy-based product and it has only 23 calories per 2 teaspoons. Nice. And this, Sandy, tastes exactly like parmesan cheese. It's that right. Yes. I love that it's zero cholesterol. Have a try, Sandy. I made you look at this tiny little... Oh, look how cute. This is actually... Look at that. It's left over from last night's dinner. You're so lucky. And I put some of the grated parmesan on top for you to try. Mmm. You wouldn't really know, would you? It tastes like leftover pizza. Yeah. Well, because I ate dairy up until, you know, 10 years ago until I transitioned to becoming vegan. But I remember, I know exactly what cheese and stuff tastes like. And to me, that is just a really good product. You wouldn't know the difference. Yeah. Really good. So, zero cholesterol. I did see that the Dietary Guidelines for Americans recommends eating between 100 to 300 milligrams of cholesterol a day. Now, one egg alone, one large egg has 186 milligrams of cholesterol and it's in the yolk. That's why a lot of people are doing the egg white scramble, scrambled eggs just using the egg white and stuff. That's another thing I think people do need to be careful of is, you know, the cholesterol. If you have high cholesterol, these are some products you might want to consider, you know, checking out. Right? Yeah. Let's have a look at the next one. Now, this ice cream, coconut milk ice cream. This is mint chip flavoured. As it says on the label, it is so delicious. I have an array of these like in various flavours. All of these products actually I didn't forgot to mention are from Down to Earth and Whole Foods. Whole Foods sells them as well. This container costs about five, between five and six dollars. They go on sale a lot. I can pick them up for, you know, four dollars every now and again. Look, again, cholesterol free. One container is, sorry, half a cup of this delicious coconut milk ice cream is only 180 calories if you're watching calories. I was going to say, so go ahead and eat the whole thing. Yeah. Half a cup is actually a quarter of this container and I do eat the whole thing at one sitting because, you know, once you open it, you're a goner, as they say in Australia. You're a goner. This stuff is just so moreish and delicious. And something, again, that you probably don't want to be eating every day. I think people, even people on a plant-based diet have to be careful that they don't turn into vegan junkie junk food. They don't get caught in that junk food arena. So let's have a look at the other one. The next one, sorry. Now, what's the, is it really creamy? Yes, it is. How about this Sandy? This is probably something that you've seen. This is in every supermarket here. Earth Balance, did you know that it is vegan? This butter? No, I didn't. I'm looking at that. So vegan, non-MSG, zero-trans fat, gluten-free, 30, yeah. So this has 80 calories per tablespoon compared to 100 calories of real butter. So not too much difference, but I think the main thing is that it is zero-cholesterol. And it tastes like butter. Let's have a try. Okay, let's do this. This one, here you go. I love some butter. I'll just put that on a little baguette. What do you think? Again, this is something that you don't want to be eating every day. You don't want to be cooking all your food in stuff like this. No, you do want to be eating that every day. I know. It's delicious. It really is. So when I do baked potatoes, that's what I would put on a baguette. That's really good. I baked potato or a boiled potato, just a dollop of the vegan butter. That's really tasty. And it's very buttery, isn't it? Very buttery. Because this kind of product was never, I had never seen this in all my years in Japan. Is that right? And having just moved here like four months ago. I'm starting to find all of these really interesting vegan products that are just so nice. That's great. I'll tell you what, I'll buy that. I will go buy that. That's really good. It's sold everywhere. Yeah. And I don't think people know that it's vegan. It certainly doesn't taste it. Let's have a look at the next product. Coconut milk yogurt alternative. So this is, one container has about 140 calories. Obviously made from coconut milk, dairy free, also zero cholesterol, zero trans fat. That's another thing that you want to avoid is the trans fat. Total fat four grams. This is a really great alternative. Now this, I think, is something that some people like and others don't. It's an acquired taste. Coconut milk is, it's not similar to regular yogurt, in my opinion. But you have a try. Let's see what you think. This is the raspberry flavored one, Sandy. And I've put some nuts and a couple of blueberries on there for you. That's so good. Thank you. Awesome. While you're trying that, let's have a look at the next image, the next photo. Vegan mayonnaise, of course. This is what went into your sandwich that you tried. The egg sandwich. That's also a delicious product. And one more. I believe we have one more photo. That is the, yes, the cream cheese. This one is also made with coconut. This cream cheese is great, Sandy. Try one of these little. Cream cheese is another thing that I, I'm a cheese. I am too. I love cheese. I am too, yes. So that's why I'm just having so much fun finding all of these things. This one I actually found at the commissary. So, and every time I go there, it's either sold out or there's like one left on the shelf. So people even in the military, obviously buying these. And actually the soy yogurt is from the commissary as well. I really liked the yogurt. The yogurt was really nice. Different. Yogurt, sorry, yeah. Different from regular yogurt, like you said it would be, but very tasty. Well, Sandy, I have to say thank you so much for joining me. I had so much fun with you. Oh, thank you for having me. I hope you enjoyed the tasty. I did. I'm a foodie. And everything was great. Awesome. Thank you so much for watching everyone. Look forward to seeing you again. Keep tuning in to Lillian's Vegan World. If you have any questions, write them on a big jar of Vegemite. Aussies will get that. And send them to Think Tech Hawaii. Thanks guys. See you next time on Lillian's Vegan World. Aloha.